Tom has no vision... the B1G needed to add quality teams to balance out the dead weight. Ore/Wash is a huge rivalry, get with it people.

@calebspencer3451

10 ай бұрын

Nah he’s right. College football isn’t what it used to be. Regionality made it great and the greedy tv corporations decided college students needed to travel 100,000 miles a year so they can get ratings lol

@PackBjammin

10 ай бұрын

He's keeping his eyes closed because he knows the next step is reducing deadweight teams from the B1G.

@willl7780

10 ай бұрын

usc ucla is a big rivalry....

Short-term, the move to the B1G makes it much harder for Oregon or Washington to win a conference title, but long-term it means a much larger revenue share. They should both have a reasonable shot of making the 12-team CFP.

@DR.DisInfect

5 ай бұрын

Yes it will make it harder for teams like mine Michigan and for osu but because of the 12 team playoffs it will make the landing softer. I can't wait. Welcome to the B1G

9:26 Oregon & Washington will likely still get their yearly rivalry games with Oregon State & Washington State, it just won’t be an in conference rivalry

@Asa2

10 ай бұрын

Iowa and Iowa state have been doing this forever now so it could work

ESPN just announced it is official, Washington and Oregon in the Big 10.

@user-do4ue7di7h

10 ай бұрын

It’s official. Their going to on a plane all year doing homework 😂😂😂

@fr0stb1ght34

10 ай бұрын

​@@user-do4ue7di7hNaw, not really. Had this been 20 years ago or even 10 shit like school work, homework, or even classes, it might be difficult to impossible, but with advancements in technologies and communications, it's not gonna be a problem or at least, not a big enough problem to matter. I think with some of the other sports their will be bigger hurdles to jump but I think that those issues will have been thought through before offers made and accepted. And I think those issues would have relatively been worked out. Whatever the case I don't believe things are going to be as terrible or untenable as some make it out to be.

That dude from Illinois is brain dead, this move for UW and Oregon is absolutely a win

@stuvo1977

10 ай бұрын

It's a win, because they were both stuck on the Pactanic. It was a loss for tradition.

@breezecardenas3941

10 ай бұрын

Agreed. Not only that, but, the new streaming deal the PAC 12 was offered, is still less than what the Big Ten can offer these two schools, even at a bargain price. Oregon and Washington even at the offer of half of what USC and UCLA will receive, is still almost 20 million dollars more than the new Apple TV contract could offer them. At the end of the day, Money Talks.

@cacogenicist

10 ай бұрын

I would like to see Stanford and Cal join them. B1G would have some sort of Pacific pod/sub-division with Washington, Oregon, Stanford, Cal, USC, UCLA -- helps with travel and scheduling, each team has a natural rival there, and if the B1G still cares about academics, you bring 2 absolutely world-class universities into the fold.

@brandonjordan4596

10 ай бұрын

I normally like his takes but this is bad. I get from Illinois point of view this is bad, they just added likely losses to their schedule to teams they have no interest in playing. As an Oregon fan, if they keep the Civil War as a non-confirm game then Oregon will keep the rivalries I care most about. Wash, USC and new ones will grow as we play Mich, Ohio St. I did like the Standford rivalry but that was mostly because they were the only other good team for a bit.

@shazmagoon

10 ай бұрын

@brandonjordan4596 I think the Apple Cup and Civil War will still be played yearly. Washington and Oregon need their own rivalry game because me being a Husky I hate the Ducks more than anyone

The PAC12 commissioner & committee board all need to resign. They had 2-yrs to fix Larry Scott’s mess, didn’t even do anything the last 2yrs.

@GundamGokuTV

10 ай бұрын

I mean the conference is dead they'll be without jobs soon regardless.

@johnwatsoniv384

10 ай бұрын

What is it you think they could have done? This was set in motion way before them, and they didn't have the choice on USC and UCLA demanding a bigger cut of the money than the rest of the schools. When as a conference you don't listen to your biggest brands at all, this is the result. They found a better home where they can competitively fund their athletics department. Then the other schools wanted to make the same mistake when their new most important members wanted a bigger money share, so they had to do the same or else be relegated to tier 2 status with the leftover Big 12. They'd have been stupid to not just join the Big Ten and the PAC commissioner had no way to stop them.

@htvlogs80

10 ай бұрын

@@johnwatsoniv384 I didn’t mean try to fix it by convincing USC/UCLA to stay. I meant fixing by preparing for the worst. Invite new members to create a brand new PAC12 look. The Big12 almost got dissolved when Missouri, TX A&M, TX, OU bolted to the SEC. The Big12 immediately invited new members to keep the conference together. The PAC12 should have immediately immediately invites new schools. Instead they sat around a whole year doing nothing & got jumped in line by the Big12 for a new TV deal.

Oregon is currently 7th overall recruiting rankings in the nation and 3 in the BIG10 behind OSU & Michigan.

big 10 is now a nation wide power house

@jordanjones4587

10 ай бұрын

Not really

@richardcelino9173

10 ай бұрын

@@jordanjones4587explain why they're not? Explain what you mean not really

@stevesalisbury3657

10 ай бұрын

​@@richardcelino9173he can't sec troll

@richardcelino9173

10 ай бұрын

@@stevesalisbury3657😂😂😂😂😂

I'm sorry, but your guest, the guy with the beard and glasses is out of his mind.. Big ten fans are going crazy. We love the fact that we're getting oregon in washington. And washington and oregon are loving it. Where did you get this guy from l o l

Everyone could see this happening since last summer, when USC and UCLA made the decision to move to the Big Ten. Adding the next two Biggest athletic programs from the Pac 12 to the Big Ten, just made sense. Wait for Cal and Stanford to join, in the coming days. Colorado and Arizona will join the Big 12, and Arizona State and Utah will follow. That being said, its just a matter of time before the SEC makes another move, and possibly goes after Florida St., Clemson and U. Of Miami.... 4 conferences will stick around for a while, then, ultimately, we will have only 2 conferences which will turn into 2 athletic associations. The Big Ten in the North, and SEC in the South. And the remaining schools in Div. 1, will have to choose sides. Either North or South.

@luc-rikardofils6673

10 ай бұрын

And East and West.

@breezecardenas3941

10 ай бұрын

@@luc-rikardofils6673 Let the dust settle, and we'll be stuck with the big 4 conferences for the next decade or so. Then when the next round of TV contracts comes up in about ten years or so, we'll see the ACC and Big 12 broken up and divided between the BIG 10 and SEC.

@johnwatsoniv384

10 ай бұрын

How do Cal and Stanford join the Big Ten when they're not invited? The Big Ten has everything it wants from that side of the Mississippi except Texas, so now the focus is on ACC schools. The SEC will most likely not make any moves right now because they don't have hardly any moves left to make. They got Texas and now they don't have anywhere to expand into that gives them a larger footprint or more money than what they're already getting. The Big Ten has the chance to expand into all the biggest Southern states besides Texas by raiding the ACC, and it already contains the biggest states outside of the Southeast within its footprint now. The SEC can only expand to add more good football teams and block the Big Ten from getting those teams, but in the process they will hurt their existing members by creating less revenue to distribute per school, which will create a gap between the Big Ten's money and theirs. If they don't block the Big Ten though, the effect is the same because the Big Ten will expand into all these areas with lots of people (and good amounts of transplanted Big Ten fans) and that will make its media deals more valuable. The SEC also can't take ACC schools unless enough of those schools vote to dissolve the GOR so they can leave. They'd need to take on a lot of teams they don't want or work with another conference to gather up 7 or 8 programs that wanna leave so they can win that vote. The SEC also has to contend with the fact that these schools are going to have a chance at more money in the Big Ten than the SEC, and many of them are AAU schools that would make even more money working with the Big Ten universities on that than they ever will with sports.

@breezecardenas3941

10 ай бұрын

@@johnwatsoniv384 it will happen.

@marcvslicinivscrassvs7536

10 ай бұрын

Last time we had to choose between North and South things got ugly...

That’s a complete lie. It was unanimous from all Big Ten presidents. God I have better Sources than this guy. As a big ten fan I love it

Why is that silly CBS guy asking why would the BIG take more teams? A minor could explain.....It's a big monopoly game....you grab the best properties for money and security

Reports in last hour saying Utah has applied for membership to Big 12

@willl7780

10 ай бұрын

good for them....love there coach and there program

It's sad in a lot of ways, with some teams like Washington State and Oregon State left holding the bag. They will probably end up in Mountain West, and I could see Cal and Standford ending up in the B1G at some point.

@cacogenicist

10 ай бұрын

I think -- I'm hoping, at least -- that Stanford and Cal are invited pretty soon. Certainly could be things about the money that I don't understand, but in pretty much every other way, Stanford and Cal are a good fit. And for what it's worth in terms of people who actually give a damn about football in the Bay Area, you _do_ get the Bay Area, and that's a lot of people.

@stevesalisbury3657

10 ай бұрын

I hope not,I'd rather go after clemson,miami,notre dame,Florida state.

@Alexinytown

10 ай бұрын

@@stevesalisbury3657 It'd be interesting to get FSU/Miami/Clemson. It's gonna be hard with those grant of rights issues though unless they find a loophole out of it.

@cacogenicist

10 ай бұрын

@@stevesalisbury3657 - Clemson + FSU + Miami = $360 million USD in penalties that needs to be coughed up by someone, yes? Notre Dame isn't interested, apparently.

@littlesame

10 ай бұрын

I hope B1G get Wazzu and Beavers they’re good programs with great fan bases def better than Nike U fans

Not on the verge, it happened. It's a done deal. Now the Big Ten has reach from Canada to Mexico on the west coast, and from Canada to the mason dixon on the East coast, and most of the midwest. The Big Ten is the ONLY National conference, with teams from coast to coast. The next to implode will be the ACC, and if the Big Ten manages to get FSU and Clemson, they'd be not only the biggest conference, they'd OWN the SEC.

@marcvslicinivscrassvs7536

10 ай бұрын

There is a good chance the SEC will still have a lock on the top players. It seems like GA, Bama, LSU tend to have the top players year after year.

@scratchpenny

10 ай бұрын

​@@marcvslicinivscrassvs7536 The SEC has a lock on the players in their territories. But the new TV deal will benefit the Big10 with some elite prospects. They will be able to offer players a lot of media exposure since they have 3 time zones and games airing on 3 different networks. And the Big10 now controls almost all the media markets outside the South. So they will be competitive on the recruiting front.

@marcvslicinivscrassvs7536

10 ай бұрын

@@scratchpenny In theory. Right now Saban, Smart and others in the Sec have getting players from all over, especially CA. I'm not sure that is going to change immediately.

@scratchpenny

10 ай бұрын

@@marcvslicinivscrassvs7536 I agree. Probably not immediately, but the Big10 does have very wealthy schools and favorable media markets. After all, the biggest-rated non-bowl game of the year is already consistently Michigan vs Ohio State. With them adding so many Western schools, it will likely benefit them down the road with recruiting. This is why everyone in the media is saying that it's already essentially just two conferences - SEC and Big10 - because that's the only conferences where the vast majority of the top prospects will go. In the near future, we will see that NIL and media markets will affect college football significantly. It's already happening. And it will mean traditions and loyalty won't exist for top prospects. Right now, guys like Saban and Smart have brands that can be relied upon to draw/keep recruits, but that can only last for as long as they're around. The CFB expansion will help increase the media exposure and fortunes of the top 15-20 programs. So amongst the top schools, I think there will be more recruiting parity than in recent years. But the gap between the haves and have-nots is going to drastically widen.

@marcvslicinivscrassvs7536

10 ай бұрын

@@scratchpenny Totally agree with what you said about the NIL shaking things up and maybe evening things out. After all, USC's run in 2003-2005 was due to their "proto-NIL" practices. 😏 As for the SEC it has proven itself as THE "NFL training ground" since Saban arrived. That in itself is a huge brand and a sell for the absolute best players in the country. Clemson, Michigan, Ohio State, and maybe Oklahoma being the exceptions in certain years. I agree with you...what's here is here and there are really only two conferences. Which is sad for my old butt because I still miss the days when Nebraska and OU used to run the Big 8.

ASU, UA and Utah would have jumped regardless of what Oregon and Washington did. I am glad they moved on.

@Matthew-rp3jf

10 ай бұрын

Yeah thats because USC and UCLA left them and the conference. They had no choice when things started crumbling. WA and oregon were talking to the big 10 a year ago too...

@willl7780

10 ай бұрын

im gonna miss playing utah...go ducks

All these old guys complaining crying the tradition we will no longer have bad games the first 3 weeks of football no more beating up on speedway

RIP Pac-12

@TheMCJ2011

10 ай бұрын

We hardly knew yee..

RIP Civil War and Apple Cup and the other long historic rivalries that are broken due to realignment.

@redsentertainmentsports

10 ай бұрын

Yeah CFB rivalries are big casualties of realignment. It's all about the 💰!

@emeryjl

10 ай бұрын

The annual in-state rivalry games don't necessarily have to end. Iowa vs. Iowa State; Florida vs. Florida State; Georgia vs. Georgia Tech, etc

@redsentertainmentsports

10 ай бұрын

@@emeryjl Some will continue, but others won't. I guess the Rose Bowl will now be the B1G vs at large.

@markzylstra2947

10 ай бұрын

​@@redsentertainmentsportsNah, I think the Rose Bowl will permanently be a part of the playoffs especially with the expansion to 12 teams, etc.

yes I cried when I got the news, I love the pac ten...pac 12

@willl7780

10 ай бұрын

it sucks but it was all in the p12 leadership...total mismanagement...the commissionaire made more money then usc and oregon....paid MILLIONS just to keep the head office in the bay area.....why? its on and on...i do not blame any of the schools for leaving

CFB needs a separate athletic union to the Olympic sports. One where travel and regionality play more of a factor in decision making.

two big time conferences. NFC/AFC

Fornelli is lost.

@nweeezy

10 ай бұрын

he was largely right....and this is coming form someone who likes that the Big 10 is expanding and think it will add popularity to the sport in general....but I still think he is largely correct on the points he made

@cfbplayoffedits

10 ай бұрын

@@nweeezy I don't...

B10 Title Game at the Rose Bowl??

@willl7780

10 ай бұрын

i like it

Having 4 west coast teams really helps with travel concerns with expanded B1G.

Matt Norlander does not spend any time examining the west coast schools.

Tom's crazy. The move doesn't make sense? The writing has been on the wall for over a decade that all of this realignment was inevitable. If you haven't made sense of why this is happening by now, I seriously question your grasp on college football in general.

The head scratcher was adding Rutgers

@andrewmueller9986

10 ай бұрын

I wonder if they'd consider kicking schools out.

@joellahrman4557

10 ай бұрын

Huh? Rutgers doesn't have a big fan base, but it is in the NYC media market. With UCLA and USC the Big 10 has footprints in the NYC, Chicago, and LA markets. "Conferences" are nothing more than media conglomerates anymore.

FOOTBALL: It's actually better to do a 18 Team Conference for Football because you can keep 9 Conference Games. You are only tied to your Rival or travel partner examples OREGON/WASHINGTON and MICHIGAN/OHIO STATE. That's 1x game every year and the other 8 games which is half of the remaining 16 and the other 8 teams the following year. With 16 teams for 9 Conference Games you would have to group them in 4×4 pods. Or drop to a 8 Game Conference Schedule like the SEC and the old days. Also for 16 Team Schedule, Rival 1x every year, then 7 and 7 the year after.

@AnthonyTV414

10 ай бұрын

BASKETBALL: 18 Teams works the same way by being tied to your partner who you play twice a year and then you play everyone else once = 16 Teams = 18 Conferece Games, so far. Then to make it 20 Conference Games, GONZAGA and UCONN are added for Basketball and other Sports. Now, EVERYONE plays GONZAGA and UCONN both one time a year and GONZAGA and UCONN play eachother twice! Giving the first Conference with 20 Teams and 18 Teams for Football.

It's about the College Footbal playoffs & it''s about the TV rights for College Football.

All for the change!

Cal and Stanford get left behind, sad.

The Big 10 needs to change it's name. There hasn't been 10 teams in this conference for well over a decade..

I hope FOX CBS NBC will be paying these schools 💰💰💰 now and after their vesting period ends, and not coming out of existing members pockets.

Oregon will still play Oregon State every year

@-C.S.R

10 ай бұрын

🤔

Looks like Oregon State is playing for a PAC-12 Championship…….Bad day for a Beaver fan.

Is it going to be big10 west and big10 mid west divisions

@andrewmueller9986

10 ай бұрын

2 9-team division and play 1 cross division game.

"It came down to money" At what point was this ever about anything ELSE? lol

My Mom told me not to say mean things to strangers, so I'm only going to tell you this. Find better analysts please.

It's an obvious move. U don't have a true rose bowl now so now we got these west Coast teams playing the Midwest weekly. Sounds amazing to me. Go Blue

@stevesalisbury3657

10 ай бұрын

Me too, as michigsn fan I love more competition, tired of sec acting like they play hard schedules.michigan vs those 4 teams excite me,tired of season revolving around osu game

@robertevbayekha6639

10 ай бұрын

@@stevesalisbury3657and if Oregon and Washington accept and fsu and Clemson go to the big10 the sec might actually have legitimate competition

Explain to me what "coaches'es jobs" means...

Dear tom , so let teams stay and sink with pac 12? They can still have non conference rivalries every year. Michgan st vs usc 😆 really?

Blake. Oregon beat Utah last year. Oregon State Boat raced Florida last year. (Fart noise) Washington State Beat Wisconsin at Canp Randall last year (fart noise) Oregon is 2-1 against Michigan State in the last decade. (Fart noise) Oregon is 2-0 against Wisconsin in the last decade (fart noise) Utah is 2-0 against Michigan. Under hoke* and harbaugh. Arizona State has wins over Wisconsin and Michigan State in the last decade. Oregon has played in 3/4 pac championship games. They're 2-3 in those games. Utah is a fantastic program don't try to discount them for your argument. They kicked our butt in 2021. Oregon will have success and challenges in joining the BIG but they will be competitive as they have proved.

Women's Gymnastics in the Big 10 effective 2024: UCLA Michigan Michigan State Nebraska Ohio State Penn State Rutgers Maryland Minnesota Iowa Illinois Washington

What do you mean you don’t know why the big 10 is doing this? You have your head in the ground! Money, power!

Rivals can still play each other. They can do it as the out of conference game each season if the teams are in different conferences.

There is NO reason that the civil war or apple cup needs to go away unless one of the involved schools refuses to play its opponent. Cross conference rivalry games have been around forever, just because Oklahoma State wants to be babies about it doesn't mean that these former PAC schools have to be babies towards each other about their rivalries. Additionally, these four schools have rivalries amongst each other that will continue to grow and develop in the Big Ten. There is not one PAC rivalry that can't exist anymore because of this happening.

they really took a beating from the BIG 12 here🤦

Pac 12 can keep Cal. The Big Ten would be better off with Stanford, Notre Dame, and Utah

They gotta grab Cal and Stanford also at this point

@DARKSEID76

10 ай бұрын

Hmm I'm a Cal fan myself, but a bit pessimistic. I think the Big 10 will want to add Notre Dame and Stanford. Cal could "possibly" be given a lifeline at some point by the Big 12. Cal is definitely in an awkward spot, since it doesn't really fit culturally with the Big 12, and it's "too big" for the Mountain West.

@donjuan914

10 ай бұрын

@@DARKSEID76 if Notre Dame ends up in the Big10 then yes Cal is screwed. But if not, I can definitely see them going over with Stanford just due to their academics and it’ll add more balance to the conference on the west coast.

@DARKSEID76

10 ай бұрын

@@donjuan914 I definitely hope that's the case lol.

It’s why Fornellin is in CBS nowhere near B1G #keephating invite Quinn next to pile more hate with their extreme biases

The B1G is the NFC

@robertevbayekha6639

10 ай бұрын

And sec is the afc

Rivalry game > national championship

Take Utah

Cal Stanford indi. Wsu Oregon state mwc

Lol the Illinois fan is scurred of Oregon and Washington.. "WHY" ???? 😂😂😂 To become the premier coast to coast conference. We know NW, Indiana, and Illinois fans are gonna be scared and think this is gonna "hurt".. Your team sucks... that's not our problem.

AFC (B1G) vs NFC (SEC) College Super Bowl coming soon.

@robertevbayekha6639

10 ай бұрын

I said nfc more big10 and sec more afc but yeah

R.I.P. college football

This guy is scared of Oregon Washington usc and UCLA

Rutgers Maryland Indiana Illinois footbal 😂😂😂

Are these steps towards “super-leagues” threatening to the institutional existence of the NCAA?

Big 10 put a bullet in the pac 12..that or the teams leaving the pac. In no way is the big 12 at fault. Also the big 12 has been the best basketball league because theyve done the besr in thr post season lately, the only thing that matters.

@willl7780

10 ай бұрын

NO....the pac 12 commissioner killed the p12

My thoughts exactly. Greed wins

@willl7780

10 ай бұрын

NO....stupidity in the p12 leadership killed the p12

For die hard traditionalists..all these mergers and changes are heartbreaking. It's all haves and have nots. Long held traditions and rivalries throw away in a matter of days...all over greed. College football was unique and a break from pro sports. Now it's becoming almost professional. Soon everyone is getting paid.

Worst thing to ever happen in college football. Greed was more important.

I’m afraid the acc is next

Oh stop. The realignment renewed more rivalries than it broke. The pac12 was ripe for destruction.

I'm cool with it the only problem that I have is that the conference's we're going to get paid like it's nobody's business but coaches like Nick Saban bitching and crying about players getting paid with the Nil

i remember Penn State and Nebraska running their traps about joining the weak B10..look where it got them, sure penn state is doing well now . They have won the same championships at North Western in those 20 years, and are 7-9 vs iowa since joining. Nebraska lol well we all know. You think your one on one bowl games once in a blue moon makes these Pac 12 teams better...wait till you are in the Midwest in winter...These teams are .500 teams, youll get your wins off illinoy , indiana , purdue , NW, minnesota, and the rest are bowl games. Good luck

@zoam7881

3 ай бұрын

I hope you remember this comment this time next year.

Well make history, nobody cares

Get Woke, Go Broke

The B1G is going to start making academic (aka stupid decisions) selections. Therefore, cal and Stanford welcome. After that, please, please, please make football decisions.

Just go ahead and add Stanford and Cal to lock the NorCal market and make the conference 20 teams. It can be called the Big Tens or B1Gs.

This common-tater Tom is clueless. Terrible takes. Jim Rome would shoot you down dude.

The networks better deliver the cash Ultimately they have no choice. Considering the OTA content they currently deliver.

Tom is a dinosaur who needs to be let go. Hes like your boomer uncle who doesn't understand why we dont use 8 tracks anymore.

The Big 10 screens for an academic “snoot factor.”

@andrewmueller9986

10 ай бұрын

Oregon isn't ranked high and does little research

@willl7780

10 ай бұрын

@@andrewmueller9986 no one cares

@andrewmueller9986

10 ай бұрын

@@willl7780 just stating facts not saying anyone cares

@willl7780

10 ай бұрын

only dip shits are looking at this from an academic standpoint...this is about football nothing more@@andrewmueller9986

There will be a lot more college football in prime time in the east. 😁

I had to take my like back 😂 that was just 20 minutes of crying and whining smh