David is the only one with any balls to say how it is! Hes brilliant he stands for alot of kiwis think!

@UPTHEWAHSDAY1

6 ай бұрын

😂😂😂

@bernardguynunns5658

6 ай бұрын

He's certainly not the only one. Winston isn't far from saying the identical same thing.

@helenberry9082

6 ай бұрын

@@bernardguynunns5658 Winston is on it for sure

@roilhead

5 ай бұрын

​@@UPTHEWAHSDAY1So that's a joke. Let's talk about how useless the last Labour Govt was. Jacinda was throw out by her own Party and her policy that had cost the tax payer hundreds of millions. The joke is Labour but somehow you think a Govt that can deliver is not something that is good for all of NZ.

@UPTHEWAHSDAY1

5 ай бұрын

@@roilhead FK are you going on about mate?? Lets talk about?? nobody asked to talk to you?? Fkn Clown..

And yes we who voted for Act want a referendum.

@jonturnbull9820

6 ай бұрын

Its not going to get past NZ first and National dont suport it so nothing will come of it

@JG-us9lu

6 ай бұрын

​@@jonturnbull9820Don't count on it

@helenberry9082

6 ай бұрын

@@jonturnbull9820 It will get past NZ First, don't know where you get that idea, interested to know?

@user-no3sl6xz1i

6 ай бұрын

Sorry no referendum

@jonturnbull9820

6 ай бұрын

@@helenberry9082 Winston and Shane have both said they won't support it when it goes to select committee and how many times have your heard Luxton say he thinks it's divisive? Do you live under a rock or something. This is Seymour's project nothing else

David is a beacon of common sense against a wave of regressive and dangerous racial identity politics that will hold NZ back. Well done David👍

@pauldansby8285

6 ай бұрын

100% ARGREED

@dallynstevens7855

6 ай бұрын

Honor the treaty, quit shafting Maori..... Aotearoa Land discovered and first settled by Maori, Maori paid a far to high price for it Immigrants came over Treaty was meant to be an sacred covenant for unity and peace but then Maori were betrayed An have been shafted for years Honor the treaty respect the indigenous of this land

@bigthinker281

6 ай бұрын

@@dallynstevens7855 Yes i agree. You need to read the treaty. We are one country. One people. What do you think?

@ReubenCooper

6 ай бұрын

Clearly you don't read, don't study history, or don't know much. Keep up the ignorant comments 😘🤣

@dallynstevens7855

6 ай бұрын

@@bigthinker281 through proper recognition of the Maori and the treaty we move forward there is no free riding without sacred respect toward the efforts made by those who settled on this land first and the covenants formed between two peoples Stop shafting the Maori and honor the treaty

Well done David, spitting facts that the leftys dont like, dont want, ,go hard Dave👍👍

@laelles1313

6 ай бұрын

I agree, it's nice to see he doesn't let his Down Syndrome hold him back

@moniquebode1655

6 ай бұрын

Thats why I voted for NZ First. I like Seymours ideas

@badchefi

6 ай бұрын

@@moniquebode1655 If you like Seymour, ACT was the obvious choice. But I do get it - your about as consistent as the little man himself.

@moniquebode1655

6 ай бұрын

@@badchefi We live in a democratic country so it's really good that we have freedom of speech

@badchefi

6 ай бұрын

@@moniquebode1655 your comment above might be very free, and you can keep commenting away, but it still makes no sense.

Go David, we are with you 100%

I'm a citizen of a democratic country but have never had an opportunity to vote on this issue until ACT proposed this bill. Bring it on and encourage everyone in this country of whatever ethnicity to have their say. Equality, Liberty and Fraternity.

@massimilianocacciamani7736

6 ай бұрын

I think you meant dictatorship. Untie Jc's favorite.

@cjkelly5515

6 ай бұрын

Immigrants

@rodnichols6237

6 ай бұрын

@@massimilianocacciamani7736 you are a very special kind of idot 🤣🤣🤣

@user-ie2mg1zn8m

6 ай бұрын

Lloólp0p⁰0⁰

@pauldansby8285

6 ай бұрын

100% ARGREED

Another good interview Sean, and thanks for working hard and staying independent to inform NZ public with true information !!

My Whānau and I support David Seymour ... say goodbye to the gravy train racists ...

@lindamckenzie6500

6 ай бұрын

Hear hear!

@MrTumekeKing

6 ай бұрын

The only gravy train is the rich white guys that influence political agendas.

@user-tv2nh8tc9d

5 ай бұрын

Ahhhhhh just exactly who have been the major benefactors since the treaty was signed? Certainly not the people you're trying to have a dig at

@MrTumekeKing

5 ай бұрын

Ahhhh just exactly the answer from someone with the head in the sand. 😂.

@MrTumekeKing

5 ай бұрын

Ahhhh just exactly the answer from someone with the head in the sand. 😂.

Congratulations David! Your responses to Sean's questions are very well-reasoned and thoughtful. Looking forward to seeing the Bill being debated in parliament and public.

David Seymour is right on who are changing the Treaty principles and the majority are not.

@rodnichols6237

6 ай бұрын

Majority rule

@AmonAnon-vw3hr

6 ай бұрын

@rodnichols6237 society moves forward, in other words.

@gordonpotts9642

6 ай бұрын

@@kahouli2496 It depends on if you speak for all NZers.

@jamesbroughton7635

4 ай бұрын

2:28 The problem with your statement is that he’s NOT seeking to re-write the treaty because he cant what he’s doing is attempting to re-write the Treaty Principles which are the ideas, phrases and words that are thought to capture the broad sentiments, intentions and goals of the Treaty to allow them to be incorporated into law and applied in practice. In a nutshell, the Treaty Principles are the Treaty’s representative in law. They are the Treatys representative in law as there are 2.documents (the Treaty of Waitangi and Te Tiriti o Waitangi). The Government favours the Treaty as it gives them authority, while Te Tiriti says differently. This is why principles were enacted to breathe life to the favored document, The Treaty of Waitangi. They were developed over 60 years by academics (particularly New Zealand historians), lawyers, judges and other experts employed by the courts or Waitangi Tribunal, alongside Iwi officials and Iwi governing entities, government officials as well as politicians. The principles can be changed, however what Seymour proposes doesn’t even resonate with the spirit let alone the text of the Treaty or Te Tiriti. As most Treaty experts agree that while the 2 treaty documents are somewhat different they both agree that Maori retain right to govern over themselves and their lands. Further to this Te Tiriti o Waitangi (Maori version) is the version recognised in international law, because it’s the version signed by the Chiefs and is one of the reasons why 2:28 was not successful.

TVNZ does not come out of this in any way squeaky clean. It is most certainly time for an enquiry into TVNZ’s supposed neutrality as a broadcaster. And if, as I suspect, they are found to be wanting in that respect there should be a complete investigation as to their financial irresponsibility via a loss of advertising revenue caused by TVNZ content. Financial responsibility being required under the TVNZ Act.

@pgreen8531

6 ай бұрын

There is absolutely no neutrally in the mainstream media especially tvnz

@sunny57jo

6 ай бұрын

In Singapore, they made a law, ‘If any media writes or airs anything against government, the government has the right to take equal time in the same slot and put forward their side’

@roilhead

5 ай бұрын

TVNZ is clearly one eyed socialist. Their rating must have fallen considerably the past few years.

@barrybillington5185

4 ай бұрын

I agree 100% and turn TV 1 off as soon as it appears. One side outfit.

Fully support this. Great work David.

Sean and co are the modern media hero’s. Real chat + the truth is what all NZ European want.

@lindamckenzie6500

6 ай бұрын

Hear hear!

A fair and sensible approach to the issue of equal rights for all New Zealanders. National needs to support this process.

@davidyang1565

6 ай бұрын

❤

I'm even more impressed with David Seymour, that's how you deal with the irrational racist left.

@moniquebode1655

6 ай бұрын

I think he's the voice of reason in the messed up times we are living in

@cjkelly5515

6 ай бұрын

Another immigrant

@schlookie

6 ай бұрын

@@cjkelly5515 why don't you go back to Taiwan then.

@zweed69

6 ай бұрын

@@cjkelly5515 lmfao look at your pic bro, who ate all the pies 🤣🤣🤣

@patriciakimber4312

6 ай бұрын

Thank goodness for David , stay strong and carry on , yours doing brilliantly, all those whingers can change nothing because you are in government with the majority

I hope Act continue with this referendum god knows NZ needs it, and don’t be bullied by a small group of self entitled part Māori radicals that try and use Intimidation tactics to try and get there own way.

@UPTHEWAHSDAY1

6 ай бұрын

NZ needs what? Who's the small group?? Hmmmm

@JG-us9lu

6 ай бұрын

Maori is a small group

@valeriehughes1008

6 ай бұрын

Correct the viciousness of Maori bullying is boundless... you get attacked when trying to post your views on this site. I have been attacked in the very nastiest of fashions and had other good Maori come to my defence. The extremists have no regard for anyone else but themselves and have no care for their fellow Maori... it is all just about and the dollar and how much they will get out of it... they use their fellow Maori while doing nothing for them... all they do is bring hatred down on Maori.

@rodnichols6237

6 ай бұрын

@@JG-us9lu keep believing that 🤣🤣🤣🤣

@JG-us9lu

6 ай бұрын

@@rodnichols6237 It True laugh if you like.but censor says your a very small minority. Sense says you have toxic and aggressive culture. Check with the kids.

Yes, good on you David.. the truth hurts.. too bad..its time it is sorted out 👍

Seymour has my support. He has balls to stand up to racism and racist violent bullies. 🙌❤️

@5150show

6 ай бұрын

Yep

@moniquebode1655

6 ай бұрын

I voted for him because I like his ideas

@mephistofleece

6 ай бұрын

Same. Seymour has the kahunas that Luxon is missing so badly @@moniquebode1655

@natanataare7112

6 ай бұрын

Kia kaha David so cool and such a calm dude without the theatrics

@taniajockwer6350

6 ай бұрын

Seymour is part of Atlas that basically speaks for gas and oil and was behind the propaganda type No campaign in Australia. Follow the money.

Stands to reason why Maori don't want this going through, they'll lose their "special" status because when everybody's special nobody's special. That will be in the spoken rule for sure but over time I think it will be the unwritten as well. They may as well put all their grievances on a shelf because they will become downgraded to irrelevance. The treaty has always been a tough order because on the one hand the government has, will and can never fulfill their obligations and on the other hand Maori have to move on, cut their loses and give up their special status. This bill will force the issue but it's not going to be without a fight.

@kattybob1749

6 ай бұрын

Spot on. Maori will lose there special status. They don't want an even playing feild, they want the medal without even trying.

@mattheweden-pc5pk

6 ай бұрын

When I was growing up if you were special you were handicap

@SB-Kiwi

6 ай бұрын

The bill is a waste of money that doesn't have legs.

@gracehowe3692

6 ай бұрын

What special status? When my mother and her relatives were growing up, they were beaten or tortured for speaking te reo.. They have never received an apology from the Crown or compensation for the abuse. The Maori "special status" barred them from entering entertainment areas in the 1950s, securing housing and or jobs. My uncle an ex-war veteran was declined 28 rental properties because of his "special" status. My uncles who fought in WW2 returned from war and got nothing for their service, but their pakeha counterparts got housing, education and jobs. My white looking mother had to listen to her pakeha colleagues' rants about "dirty Maori" and other disgusting racist comment. My boss could not sit next to her white mother at the movie theatre cause Maori sat elsewhere. This is how pakeha justice works for Maori when the land is stolen and sold off to someone else by the thief, they have to make a claim, and wait over 100 years before the claim is heard so they can be compensated or receive their land back. However, according to Pakeha justice for non Maori when property is stolen the thief is prosecuted and the victim gets compensation, or their property returned without having to file any claims. Who has the "special" status? One law for all what a load of crap.

@dosentmatter982

5 ай бұрын

Check your dirty history England

Clearly explained. All Kiwis need to hear this.

@fatbastard70

6 ай бұрын

There are none so deaf as those who don't want to hear.

There is a lot of confusion of what the principles actually are, We need this open conversation.

@StGammon77

6 ай бұрын

There are no principles, if we allow it, the radical maoris will have more channels to cry breach!! It's simply a hot racist mess

The National party needs to wake up, and get behind you to get a PUBLIC Referendum from NEW ZEALANDERS on this ongoing Treaty document. New Zealanders are sick to death of hearing about it. GET IT SORTED ONCE AND FOR ALL- Let THE PEOPLE SPEAK! Thank you, David!

Thank you David for mentioning our other bloodlines. My family is mixed culture and I don't want my ancestors to be totally discounted which is how the argument is sounding.

Seymour has the guts and spine that our Prime Minister lacks. All the best, serving the majority is the way to a majority, go you good thing you.

@pauldansby8285

6 ай бұрын

100% ARGREED EXPIRED MAORI PARTY THEY ARE all Dinosaurs!!

@dallynstevens7855

6 ай бұрын

Majority isnt always the best way. Paretos principle clearly evidences that!

@jamesbroughton7635

4 ай бұрын

Not so sure about the *Guts and Spine part* Stupidity maybe, as 8% is not the majority and true to form like ACT and like his counterpart Rodney Hyde… I cannot see a very long tenure in politics for him.

David Seymour for PM..everything he said makes perfect sense.

Your race, gender, or superficial features do not define you! Your character does!

@God-Zin-uru

6 ай бұрын

It helps if yer a biG thinker 🤔💛

@bennichols1113

6 ай бұрын

Except for legally. Ministers are appointed for exactly those traits. Non maori men are the benchmark and all other groups get a minister. A minister can only be appointed if a group is disadvantaged. So women, children and maori are seen by the government as inferior to non maori men.

@AmonAnon-vw3hr

6 ай бұрын

@bennichols1113 you've got it exactly backwards lol

@bennichols1113

6 ай бұрын

@@AmonAnon-vw3hr write to the NZHRC and ask. You can't name the mans minister can you?.

@jamesbroughton7635

4 ай бұрын

So that means David Seymour’s 2 very small splashes of paternal brown paint makes him an expert on Te Tiriti now? And that his new found *Maori-ness* allows him to use it as a weapon against his own people (as he calls them).

I sincerely hope there is no conflict or civil war however it appears there are elements on the left that are willing to start it. That would certainly be a sad day for New Zealanders and I urge everyone to lawfully push back with logic against this occurring. As a Maori I certainly believe this definition should take place as this issue that certain elites are pushing is starting to divide the country. We are all humans and should be equal under law with no favor based on race.

@debbielacey6229

6 ай бұрын

Hello love, 🧡👏 Well said and I agree with you. With love ❤and blessings 🙏to you and your family.

@massimilianocacciamani7736

6 ай бұрын

There will be no civil war. Nothing major happened when the government forced untested drugs onto the population. People just didn't have enough fight left after a day's work. What I hope is that our elected electorate sticks up for our rights as humans, and if we need a referendum to make sure that kiwi's are treated equally, then I dont think our politicians are looking after us... Equally.

@vegaskiwi4255

6 ай бұрын

Agreed ! Lets get this done for the benefit of the whole country

@StGammon77

6 ай бұрын

The left will whip up and incite terror like they always do

@DEFENDERNZ

6 ай бұрын

I agree. There are those from both sides, Maori and non-Maori who seem to have personal interests in coming out on top. Be it money or fame, they need to be called out for conflict of interest. The rest of us just want the prosperity and stability this country had before this all blew up.

The media discuss this as a racial divide. But I think of Rawiri's threats of violence as a sign his Father in law is going to get less public money with this government and isn't happy.

We have to be writing to Luxon to remind him that Act and its ideas were what many NZers voted for. Despite the hysterics we see in the media, a very large number of us would like to the conversation about the Treaty principles to happen, and for either the Bill to be passed or a referendum to take place.

@barneyboy2008

6 ай бұрын

8%. Whoopy doo.

Time for a New Zealand Constitution.

@marknicol4957

6 ай бұрын

Formally written down. Not the unwritten one we have now

@user-bx5sk9lm6s

6 ай бұрын

Exactly ​@@marknicol4957

@johnjones5995

6 ай бұрын

If you want a constitution i would suggest it's time to get rid of the Crown and become a republic. Get rid of all things that relate us to the Crown and England and start fresh.

@user-bx5sk9lm6s

6 ай бұрын

@@johnjones5995 👍 Great Idea, Time for the big boy pants.

@iamnotarobot2378

6 ай бұрын

​@johnjones5995 If by 'all things that relate us to the Crown' you refer to Treaty of Waitangi then certainly. It needs to be the first thing to go along with the grievance industry built around it.

Well done David, good on you, go ahead with a referendum finally.

@SB-Kiwi

6 ай бұрын

Pffffft

Not hated by me I am hopeful that we can get this settled. And do not have it used as a knife across our necks for decades because that is how it feels to me get what ever it says set in stone so we can get on with rebuilding our country.

@myresponsesarelimited7895

6 ай бұрын

It in and of itself is set in stone, but there's hammers and chisels for that, what they're trying to do is rewrite the interpretation they already wrote when they initially paved the way for this mess in the 70s and 80s. They're in effect trying to amend ammendments previously made a few decades ago under the guise it's old, and antiquated, and we need to be progressive- ain't that a trip- the treaty is indeed old- but the ammendments are relatively new all be they worthless in the ICJ. ...btw you can make new treaties, but you can't make amendments to a current one. It's a peace accord not a constitution.

@iwiterangi5711

6 ай бұрын

@@myresponsesarelimited7895 The treaty was a peace accord?

@sunny57jo

6 ай бұрын

We all had religious books and their tenets handed over to us by our forefathers. Are we following them verbatim? Are we not discarding those , at least some of them, to suit modern times?

@myresponsesarelimited7895

6 ай бұрын

@@iwiterangi5711 ...pre land war's, post musket war's. That's what stopped the fighting- am I wrong?...

@myresponsesarelimited7895

6 ай бұрын

@@sunny57jo isn't living in peace still relevant? 😔

love the guy hope for our country.go get us sorted mate.

David will become more loved by his voters the more is hated by the radicals. Hold your ground and go on. This endless re-re-interpretation of the treaty to the convenience of a few has to stop somewhere.

@KINNZ94

6 ай бұрын

I really appreciate what David is doing.

Go David Seymour.You always give a balanced and succinct view.

Christopher Luxon needs to see all these positive comments and do the right thing to support David. Don’t be a coward Christopher!

@paulmeersa7162

6 ай бұрын

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Go Seymour. We are headed toward feudalism where we are the peasants if this is not clarified once and for all.

@AmonAnon-vw3hr

6 ай бұрын

Not feudalism, which is a concept created in the 30s and 40s to describe a naturally forming way of life given the social constructs and technological advancements of the time. The only opinion for the indigenous population would be Chiefdom. These are stratified tribal societies led by chiefton: Some tribes had a very complex organizational structure and these tribes were led by a head called the chief or Rangatira . As with most peoples who use this system, this is a social organization more complex than a tribe (hapu/pori) and less than a civilization. Such kinds of social organizations are called chiefdoms which are very unstable and were prone to cycles of collapse and renewal. An example of this kind of social organization would be the Germanic Peoples who conquered the Western Roman Empire in the fifth century. They had a complex social hierarchy comprising of: Kings. A warrior aristocracy Common freemen serfs. Slaves.

@jameskjx

6 ай бұрын

@@AmonAnon-vw3hr your point is? I mean: that's what the treaty actually says (not what Seymour misinterprets the treaty to say). The treaty was written by the British Empire in 1840 - an Empire that was about to support the Confederacy in the US Civil war! The idea the British in 1840 (or even today) supported equality before the law, the removal of the hereditary aristocracy, universal suffrage, women's rights, is utterly crazy. Having a conversation about the principles of enlightenment liberal democracy - or the country - is fine. That's not what Seymour's draft bill, which does exist, which you can find on his website does. But the treaty has absolutely nothing to do with those principles. How could it?

@danielkamana5612

6 ай бұрын

Abolishing free speech ...still a threat to government

@cullenkehoe5184

6 ай бұрын

@@jameskjx Seymours bill says everyone is equal. Since so many are melting down over this, clearly many feel Maori should be more than equal under the law. What is a recent form of social org where some individuals were special under the law and in leadership positions owning the land (or the water!)...feudalism I'd say. These Lefty activists want to institute feudalism where we are the peasants.

@jameskjx

6 ай бұрын

@@cullenkehoe5184 there are a bunch of issues here: The operative part of Seymours bill makes it *unconstitutional* to discriminate in any way for any reason "on the basis of ethnicity" and overrides any and all existing laws and precedents. My comments would be unconstitutional if the law is passed as is: because I'm advocating for "discrimination on the basis of ethnicity". The problem is: given NZ's history of erasure of Māori property rights, this law will do the opposite of establish one law for all: it will entrench one law for whites, and another and lesser law for Māori, as the highest constitutional principle in the country, and in a way that cannot be repealed or amended.

Well said as usual David Seymour behind you 100%

Yes, let's have a referendum. One nation one people. No one should be treated like first class citizen, we are all New Zealanders

@SB-Kiwi

6 ай бұрын

Not gunna happen sorry.

@lindamckenzie6500

6 ай бұрын

Hear hear!

David keep on doing what you do excellent job straight up no bs

Great, we need to back ACT on this. Time get rid of the rascist Waitangi Trinbsunal And all Co Governance that has followed it. Democracy means one vote per person and no special treatment

@UPTHEWAHSDAY1

6 ай бұрын

😂😂😂😂 looky looky

@annetteblack9573

6 ай бұрын

I see a future of the common person being banned from many free accesses they have now. Welcome to America.

@roberthooker4970

6 ай бұрын

Demonacy! Where is the coalition agreement between NZ First and ACT? Were all MPs hear all the discussions that took place about the writing of the coalition documents? This did not occur at stated by an ACT MP then the MPs of each party were not fully informed before they made their confidence vote. So is it that democratic?

@roberthooker4970

6 ай бұрын

Can money and how it is used influency an electrol system?

@zweed69

6 ай бұрын

@@roberthooker4970 look up the electoral finances act bro, helens legacy, its all part and parcel with this corruption and as far as democracy goes, I hope you were at parliament protesting the single largest breach of democracy in nz history, the jab mandates

Excellent David keep it up for our country

Well I never...two grownups talking about the treaty. How did that happen?

@calstonjew

6 ай бұрын

They are White, after all.

@rogermartin8435

6 ай бұрын

What no shouting, no interrupting rudely, no bullying, no singing in te reo, no dancing, no attempting to threaten and intimidate That is not the native way and they have rights.

@calstonjew

6 ай бұрын

@@rogermartin8435 Eyes popping, leering in a threatening manner or waving their spears and clubs around

@God-Zin-uru

6 ай бұрын

​@@calstonjew⚡️IMPLY⚡️UPERIOR ✋️💛

@andreatodd3095

6 ай бұрын

Interesting,discussion, public service are at fault as well, if they don't stand up and allow due process they are guilty. their opinion does not hold any validity prior to the bill being tabled for discussion, or even after, the select committee has that job.

Seymour for PM. He has a spine and stands for something unlike the current seat warmer.

@cspace1234nz

6 ай бұрын

….yeah I don’t see it that way, Luxon is creating the space for both Seymour and Peters to do their work while appearing to be a “seat warmer”, as you suggest. It’s near perfect how this is working out.

@rangisullivan1591

5 ай бұрын

How can he be pm Only 8% of mis informed vote for his party of rat bags

A rational adult conversation. Nice!

David is cool, calm, reasonable. I'm glad he's our M P.

@briansatchell2319

6 ай бұрын

Gets Better all the time. Very good bloke

A couple of weeks after Golriz is exposed as a serial, large scale, high value thief, James Shaw resigns.

@stevew656

6 ай бұрын

With James resignation, he will be the last co-leader male for the Greens we will see for sometime.

@JohanThiart

6 ай бұрын

It will be interesting to see how JS’s resignation will affect the green vote and the green movement.

@andrewoh1663

6 ай бұрын

Conveniently when he's clocked up enough service in Parliament to get the full MPs pension.

@ducker09

6 ай бұрын

Jimmy knows who the woman " wingman " is in vidio. Of that common thief from his party. He's jumping before the proverbial hits the fan .

@ronaldwarren1267

6 ай бұрын

See Jame shaw you have false certificates it's going to come back to bite your all crooks in that party any way

Referendum Now 🎉 🐾🐾

Maybe our next PM the way things are going.

I'm with David 100% on this.

Fully support David Seymour, well done.

Judges should not make political rulings

The most honest politician in parliament says it as it is , not afraid to say what he thinks

Why is the Littlewood Treaty never part of any discussion? After all it is the most relevant copy of the English text which reflects precisely the Maori version?

@Digmen1

6 ай бұрын

No, Busby wrote the draft, the Williams's translated it into maori, They all signed it and it became Te Titiring O Waitiangi They lost Busby's draft but it had been sent to America, and now they have found it in the Littlewoods drawer,

@ewanmiller9487

6 ай бұрын

@@Digmen1 Yes, Busby wrote the last version of the English Treaty text, the Littlewood” Treaty, and Williams had translated into theMaori version. The exact same (the Littlewood version) had been sent to the USA. As the “Littlewood Treaty” is now in the possession of the NZ Government it should be easy to compare it with the copy in YS possession to verify its authenticity.

@StGammon77

6 ай бұрын

Precisely the elephant in the room

@user-ft2oc8zv5k

5 ай бұрын

Oh so we suddenly have a draft copy that’s appeared out of no where that speaks for Maori? Let’s not take it for face value. Let’s find out more about this document, why was it hidden away or how they say “lost”?

@Digmen1

5 ай бұрын

That draft copy is what the maori text was translated from. It did get lost, but copies were sent to the USA via Clendon and Wilkes and have been in US libraries ever since. The Original draft by Busby was found in Pukekoe by the Littlewood family, but the discovery was buried by the politicians of the time

Really good interview Sean - thanks very much.

When it comes to some people that will not be working will be out to make trouble, as they only think of them selfs. They fair losing some of their many freebies/ handouts. They want everything in life given to them, without any working for it like the rest of us. No pride/Marner. We all need to work equally and pull our weight in earning an honest living. There is no such thing as a free lunch.

@iamnotarobot2378

6 ай бұрын

You nailed it denys. 'Everything good that has happened to me is down to me and everything bad in my life is somebody else's fault and society's responsibility to fix' It's the mantra of the left wing victimhood industry.

@eileencoulter6263

6 ай бұрын

Under adern,greens everything was free,I agree the gravy train has to stop,the country cannot afford this blackmail anymore

@hugovanstratum7975

6 ай бұрын

@denyswoodroffe490, When you have your cultural traditions, authority, land, rights and language taken from you you would not be in a very healthy state to pull weights.

These days if people call you a racist, it usually means they have no other argument to make.. 🤔

@brent3855

6 ай бұрын

Interesting comment. There are people all over this channel calling Maori racists. Read into that what you will.

They have a minimum of four years, I hope, get it all done David.

What David is calling for is reasonable. Unfortunately, it was probably never get a fair hearing thanks to the woke media, TVNZ, TV3, and RNZ.

@lindamckenzie6500

6 ай бұрын

The woke media need to be removed...wt the hell are the supporting...down with the media

@lindamckenzie6500

6 ай бұрын

Well said David.....great now you are associate minister of Justice...Thank goodness for strong amazing Politicians like David Seymour...We are right behind you....we NZers are all equal ....we do not want anymore Maori superiority...and privilege ....

@hugovanstratum7975

6 ай бұрын

@@lindamckenzie6500 Māori have been cheated, robbed and killed for 140 years so pakeha could get their land and you are calling their behaviour as acting superior.

Rawiti and his mate from tvnz should be held accountable for leaking anything cos it was done to make mischief and cause trouble. I mean neither get paid for this crap, rawiti should be gone from parliment end of. So far as tvnz goes, get rid of them.

Maori werent environmentalists like they pretend to be..just look at how many kiwi skins they used in their cloaks,wiped out the moa..and take a look at the fishing quoter and the overseas boats they charter that are using slave labour right now..hypocricy at its finest

@olliemoose2020

6 ай бұрын

And don’t forget the over taking of fish stocks and under size shell fish today,you only have to watch coast watch to see what group of people are mostly responsible for this.

@iamnotarobot2378

6 ай бұрын

You failed to mention their reluctance to abandon slavery even though slavery had been abolished throughout the British Empire prior to the 1840 treaty.

@UPTHEWAHSDAY1

6 ай бұрын

🤯🤯🤯 😂😂😂

@Bryn-hc8fc

6 ай бұрын

@@iamnotarobot2378 i also forgot to mention they would eat each other and shrink heads. And could go on but its seems all that is swept under the carpet.

@schlookie

6 ай бұрын

@@UPTHEWAHSDAY1 its all true bro.

We love you Sir David Seymour.

A very instructive comment, the tyranny of the majority. Essentially saying democracy is the enemy , a racial autocracy is preferred . Rather racist and divisive, calm logic is a spotlight .

"The chiefs of the Confederation and all the chiefs who have not joined that Confederation give absolutely to the Queen of England for ever the complete government over their land." Article 1. This is unclear how?

@hugovanstratum7975

6 ай бұрын

Since when has the Queen run the Government. They have been a figurehead for a long time. Victoria was a symbol of law and order that the English immigrant's wanted. They needed laws in NZ to control the trouble makers sailors and sealers.

@BaileyMasters-ud8qx

6 ай бұрын

Because article 1 of the Māori text doesn't say sovereignty it says kāwanatanga (governance). And then in article 2 it says Māori will retain tino rangatiratanga (absolute authority).

@tim2muntu954

6 ай бұрын

So the Crown walks away from Article 1 of the Treaty with the idea they have "absolutely and without reservation all the rights and powers of Sovereignty", while the Maori Confederation walks away with the idea of "kāwanatanga (governance)"; and in article 2 the Crown understands the Maori Confederation retains "full exclusive and undisturbed possession of their Lands and Estates Forests Fisheries and other properties which they may collectively or individually possess", while the Maori Confederation believes they retain " tino rangatiratanga (absolute authority)"?

@BaileyMasters-ud8qx

5 ай бұрын

That's an excellent summation. If you put yourself in the shoes of Māori leaders, it seems very unlikely that they would have signed away their ability to rule over their lands and people to a foreign power. No-one would do that. It makes a lot more sense that they were allowing the english to establish a government to help control the increasing number of European settlers.

@BaileyMasters-ud8qx

5 ай бұрын

If you read the treaty like this the following few decades make sense. Until the NZ Wars, English law had very little power beyond the boundaries of European settlements.

Why can't we have a PM who makes decisions based on what he believes is right rather than public opinion. Luxon is looking like just another another weakling PM. He'd end up getting more respect and more votes if he showed himself to be a man of courage and principle.

@dash-kt7uf

6 ай бұрын

Mate, I don’t generally disagree but give a guy a chance to prove himself before concluding like that - it is not fair

One law for all.

One people, one Nation👌 End of story!

They reason they’re screaming “racism” is because they damn well the result if this subject is allowed to be decided on by the general public.

@dash-kt7uf

6 ай бұрын

What’s that? For people to be treated equally regardless of their race.

@lindamckenzie6500

6 ай бұрын

That's how it is...

@Gumpmachine1

6 ай бұрын

@@dash-kt7uf exactly, equal treatment isn’t good enough for some

@hugovanstratum7975

6 ай бұрын

If you were differently abled you would not expect to be treated equally would you?

@Gumpmachine1

6 ай бұрын

@@hugovanstratum7975 we should at least strive to view everyone equally under the law. Whether this actually manifests in reality is a different discussion mainly because the government can’t control how everyone thinks

Rip up the treaty.....

Our best politician along with Winston!

@SB-Kiwi

6 ай бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Elizebeth Rata is another well researched academic proponent of getting the principals examined and debated.

stop handing them billions and assets, recover it all..... who ever is paying them and on kick backs,..go to jail...

The issues around the treaty need to be resolved around what it meant when it was signed, otherwise it'll never be accepted.

@23.00 min: "Pizza Gate for hippies" 😂😂😂 almost fell off my lawnmower with that one.

Thank you so much Seymour for speaking up for the voiceless. Much appreciate what you’re doing.

Equal human rights fir all NZ citizens tick Meritocracy bring it on better for everyone

@myresponsesarelimited7895

6 ай бұрын

Meritocracy is a scam, think it through 🤷‍♂️

Step 1 remove the Maori seats

@morgybudd7394

6 ай бұрын

Fuck thats original

@gosekinz

6 ай бұрын

thanks I thought of it on the dunny @@morgybudd7394 😉

@hugovanstratum7975

6 ай бұрын

@gosekinz Hey it was Moāri who gave you Parliament.

@schlookie

5 ай бұрын

@@hugovanstratum7975 huh?

@user-ft2oc8zv5k

5 ай бұрын

If Maori seats go, then all immigrants must leave and return the land

Just follow the money and you’ll see who are up in arms about what David is saying The gravy train has left the station 😭😭😭

Thanks for hosting David Seymour.

Great interview. Thank you, guys. David predicted Shaw's retirement last Sunday.

Keep going David. Your view will save nz from apartheid and a future of mediocrity e.g. south africa! We have been suffering accelarating mediocrity for decades lead by labour governments but not sufficiently reversed by national in this time. If we continue as 2 more peoples it is time nonmaori charged for free gifts given by non maori collectively to maori. This is virtually trillions of technological gifts not available to maori until colonisation and the subsequent opening to the outside world. Maori didn't even have the wheel!

Good interview!

It’s more than 10% in question. An online UNRWA group was caught out spreading racism and support for Hamas. Somone shared a contact list in the group, with their names.

After watching the behavior at Waitangi today I hope we do get a referendum on the principles . The trouble makers there today were shocking

@StGammon77

5 ай бұрын

Very disturbing our Govt should not attend and make NZ Day great again, ditch the maori names theyre out the gate

Great effort David ... keep it up. Maybe have some of your colleagues of maori heritage do some fronting as well.

Māori are the racists in this country Shame on you media for portraying otherwise Go David!

@StGammon77

6 ай бұрын

Very openly racist yes they most surely are!

@lindamckenzie6500

6 ай бұрын

I'm inclined to agree!

@user-ft2oc8zv5k

5 ай бұрын

You guys are likely living on stolen land! The absolute audacity!!!

Has all the money & benefits that the Maori have received on the back of all tax payers of all ethnicity been productive? Maori are 17.3% of the population but are 52% of the prison population, 36% are on welfare, 40.9% violent crime are Maori males. Maybe what has been done is not working and a change Maybe beneficial.

But wait TVNZ knows everything about what all Maori think.

Go David.

Go act 👍

Thank you for having the courage to speak for the silent majority, David. Kiwis hailing from all reaches of the world appreciate your steadfast efforts to fix New Zealand's struggling institutions and economy.

Love your work, David

80% of the country think he is a hero. Finally someone putting the Maori bs to bed. If Maori want a revolution so be it. They have time to protest while the rest of us have to wrk.

@SB-Kiwi

6 ай бұрын

Hey I work!

@crazykiwican

6 ай бұрын

@@SB-Kiwi that is great as we all should be responsible for making Nz a better place. However when we look at the unemployed, dole registers. Certain nationalities have a much higher rate of abusing the dole,etc. thank you for being a good responsible person .

Remember David: The flak is always heaviest over the target ;-) They're afraid of having this discussion, which is why they're 'cry bullying'.

@teharipumautonu

6 ай бұрын

Who is "they"? No one is afraid.

@andrewoh1663

6 ай бұрын

the radicals- they're crapping themselves that they'll be exposed.@@teharipumautonu

@jameskjx

5 ай бұрын

@@teharipumautonu Oh I dunno. lots of whites are afraid - and with good reason. If ACT wanted a discussion then they could have a policy for a "discussion" like Matike Mai - hui / meetings all around the country, or even a citizens assembly like in Ireland. but ACT don't want a discussion: they just want to abolish Māori qua Māori, and are willing to destroy NZ's constitutional framework to do so.

Found an interesting quote in a book I was reading. It comes from Bruce Stewart who the founder of the Tapu Te Ranga Marae. “Not everything the Maori have done has been beautiful and I can’t let my love for my own people blind me to that. Before the Maori arrived, there were other groups who lived here, called the Maoriori and the Patipiahiti. These groups were extreme pacifists, and very evolved in their thinking. It is said that whenever a scuffle broke out among these people, at the first sign of bloodshed all fighting must cease. The Maori then came, and slaughtered these earlier more peaceful people.” The book is called ‘A language older than words’ the writer Derrick Jensen published 2002 pg 166. Can anyone clarify this for me?

People need to learn more about the treaty...most people have not looked at it properly. One source of information is the book: Who is the government the great deception by Ewan Campbell. Everyone should read this book... The author should be interviewed..

National is woke

@mattyallen3396

6 ай бұрын

Looking that way

A swindle sheet is no TREATY ..have the balls David and dump it ...

@hugovanstratum7975

6 ай бұрын

Do you know what you were given by Māori in the treaty?

Put the treaty in a museum and treat it as a historical document.

@hugovanstratum7975

6 ай бұрын

Go back to no Government you mean for that is what Māori gave us.

One country, one people, one vote each!

@UPTHEWAHSDAY1

5 ай бұрын

WRONG HAHAHAHA 1people what people?? nz Chinese nz tonga nz Indians??? You stay with them.. were good over here hahaha

@roilhead

5 ай бұрын

@@UPTHEWAHSDAY1 So you want to discriminate against people by race is that what you want. FYI my three kids are 1/4 Indian are you going to allow them to be Kiwis?

@UPTHEWAHSDAY1

5 ай бұрын

@@roilhead get this clear your a new Zealander so are your 1/4 Indian kids.. I'm maori.. maramataka you get it Kerry.. I don't care about you or your Indian kids yous are kiwis I'm MAORI are you understanding yet??? It's not discrimination it's facts you can call it what you want 🙂 but dont get upset with the truth I know it hurts but wrap your head around it 😂

@UPTHEWAHSDAY1

5 ай бұрын

@@roilhead like i said stay there with them. Kerry the kiwi Hahaha With 25% Indian kids hahahaha.. WE BE MAORI BEFORE WE BE KIWI.. example my children are polish maori so your point is flightless like a KIWI

@UPTHEWAHSDAY1

5 ай бұрын

If you had not commented on my comment you wouldn't have to justify yourself and then finally realise that maori don't consider themselves flightless birds e.g. KIWI 🤣🤣🤣🤣.. well leave that to you lot we good over here, im sure your aware maori are going through an awakening and it ain't looking good for you. Educate yourself or just stay there and watch this space..