Everything Wrong with the NEW BeamNG car
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who knew you could bold and underline and bolden things in youtube titles? anyway, This is everything I could find wrong with the 200BX update that looks like an S13 silvia cross with a honda, and the 180sx / 240sx is more like the real life counterparts now
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I cannot believe you missed the fact that the brake booster is on the wrong side of the car on left hand drive versions lol
@fillman86
Ай бұрын
OHMYGOD! how did I miss that!!
@valdebob_val
Ай бұрын
@@fillman86 haha
@FantaMedSocker
Ай бұрын
But he did comment on the fact that there isn't a clutch cylinder, even though clutch cables exist and were used in the 90s
@fillman86
Ай бұрын
@@FantaMedSocker clutch cables at that time were only used on incredibly cheap cars, not this kind of car
@aaaabababa
Ай бұрын
@@fillman86 that is incredibly incorrect, there still were many mid range cars that still had clutch cables back in the 90s. my 1995 Saab 900 still has one, so did my previous 1999 Citroen XM, which was an upper middle class car and even the Ford Mustang still used a clutch cable until at least 2004. btw. my 130hp saab also has headers, and a BMW of the 90s also has real turbular headers, so that is not all that uncommon either.
this should be a series for every time a new car gets added to the game
@fillman86
Ай бұрын
haha I'm glad you liked it
@gp8666
Ай бұрын
100%
@jwalster9412
Ай бұрын
Beam ng devs will start complaining in the change logs about it to lol.
THE INTERCOOLER IS TOO BIG THIS GAME IS LITERALLY UNPLAYABLE🤬🤬🤬😡😡😡
@fillman86
Ай бұрын
basically lol
@IDriveSideWays
23 күн бұрын
I like how that is considered huge have u seen the stock inter cooler from a 940 turbo that thing is as big as the normal radiator Google It
@myacidninjatheamazing1025
6 күн бұрын
Fixed "LITERALLY UNPLAYABLE™" Intercooler on the 200bx being too large
And "onevia" variant of 240sx was sold in US officially , so it makes sense that we have more onevia bx in the game
@fillman86
Ай бұрын
oh, I keep forgetting america exists and that you guys are strange
@lawree374
Ай бұрын
@@fillman86 I'm from Europe, mate 😶
@fillman86
Ай бұрын
@@lawree374 ah, well I won't hold that against you ;)
@tnc7399
27 күн бұрын
@@fillman86other countries love to do stuff in America, then stop doing it and then call America weird for keeping the same thing (I'm not bothered, just find it funny how that works)
@thomasliptak9469
18 күн бұрын
@@fillman86 How do you forget the giant land mass that makes up the US
The urge to rework the whole interior to be pristinely correct fighting against my complete inability to even fathom what code is as a concept let alone do it
@wuddahellmyboy
Ай бұрын
how 4 hours ago this was made 36 minutes ago.
@ShadowedCross
Ай бұрын
@@wuddahellmyboy Maybe the video was made public too soon and was hidden before being made public again? Not sure if that changes the publishing time or keeps it.
@kenji642
Ай бұрын
@@ShadowedCross members usually get access to videos early, so itd release for them first, and then to the public
@ShadowedCross
Ай бұрын
@@kenji642 Ahh that makes sense.
@Agsotro
Ай бұрын
@@wuddahellmyboy Filman Coded time travel into my DNA Jbeam
i love the fact that he went in trying to shit on the car, and then found almost nothing. good job beamng devs!
@fillman86
Ай бұрын
hahaha
The only thing wrong with it IMO is the lack of widebody bumpers. None of the stock bumpers line up with the widebody flares and it makes it look awkward.
@AZEOforreal
Ай бұрын
That’s kinda realistic to the 240/180 bc aftermarket was so mass produced that the mods and body kits were so mediocre in quality you would not get lineups.
@ryzenpeak
Ай бұрын
@@AZEOforreal but theres really good kits now ive seen insanely clean widebodies even if they were custom should atleast be a option in the game🤷♂
@AZEOforreal
29 күн бұрын
@@ryzenpeak maybe… They still didn’t get the manual transmission right in this update tho
@AZEOforreal
29 күн бұрын
for the semi’s
To be fair,a lot of the things you point out, could have been done a bit better,and yes the "Oh they did it to keep the poly count low" argument,is valid,but at the same time,the Classic Engine Expansion Pack has way more detail and it doesn't seem to hinder the game whatsoever
@Ferrari255GTO
Ай бұрын
It depends on what hardware you have, i personally have a decent computer, but a few years ago i didn't and i remember how some mods could lag my whole PC just by themselves
@fillman86
Ай бұрын
yeah, automation cars seem to run fine with about 10x the polygons lol
@volcano.mitchell
28 күн бұрын
@@fillman86maybe they're lazy
As much as I appreciate the work of beamng devs, I would love for you to do this with all cars
@Ferrari255GTO
Ай бұрын
The devs know we like them it's fine
@fillman86
Ай бұрын
I don't want to poo all over them, so I may save it for new updated cars
If fillman overanalyzes the engine bay of the BX of all things this hard, for the love of GOD don't let him look into the sunburst's bay, he will have a stroke and literally die (also a sidenote, the BX uses the covet's engine models. i don't really agree with the practice but it allows for some cross-compatibility when you go modding it... in this case ITBs shouldn't be an issue)
@fillman86
Ай бұрын
the nissan silvia and nissan pulsar shared the SR20DE engine, so it's not that bad. It also turns out that the 3D models for the BX already had the itb setup, they're just not used for some reason
@nukkuuu
21 күн бұрын
@@fillman86 then do some coding and get it ingame
I love the new engine sound for the new BX (using the high performance exhaust and the 4 cylinders)
@Bread01.
Ай бұрын
Yeah its beautyful
@jwalster9412
Ай бұрын
It sounds really fast, even if its slow when you set it up right.
I noticed the lack of a fuel cap today lmao. I was at one of the in game gas stations and wanted to go on the right side of the car, and realized there wasnt one
I don't think you're being "nitpicky" at all. In my opinion, the 200bx rework seems really half assed. And for the mirrored livery that's actually really popular in Japan for symmetry reasons.
@Ferrari255GTO
Ай бұрын
They're doing other stuff in between along with a whole ass new graphics engine wich needs EXTENSIVE polishing, once Vulkan is fully ready things are going to change A LOT.
@fillman86
Ай бұрын
yeah, I clarified seconds later :P
@nickbirminghamem1168
Ай бұрын
@fillman86 Yeah, ik I jumped the gun a little with that comment, but I was also explaining why they do it. Nonetheless, I love the videos. Keep up the good work.
@SonicBoone56
28 күн бұрын
@@Ferrari255GTO tire and aero model should be their main priority honestly.
17:51 thats actualy intentional by the devs. some drift cars actualy have flipped liveries
@chips7049
Ай бұрын
nvm he mentioned it
@Zhawn7
Ай бұрын
By why tho? (Drift cars having flipped liveries)
@shorty______
Ай бұрын
@@Zhawn7it's said that someone making a livery for his car was having issues making it look cool on the other side and just said fuck it and everyone liked the result
@sbeve6969
20 күн бұрын
@@shorty______ I heard that it was like that so you can see the sponsors correctly in a reflective surface like a mirror
@shorty______
20 күн бұрын
@@sbeve6969 naaah, that's the case for an ambulance but not for drift cars. You never get to see a drift car on a mirror hahaha.
The onevia is actually really common in the US as we only got 240sx’s so no s13 front end and you could get them in a hatch, coupe, and convertible.
You missed that there's no engine accessories like pulleys and such in the front of the engine
@jwalster9412
Ай бұрын
I hope that they add more to it in patches, they already added some derby parts that weren't there before.
Steelorse already noticed the polygons in the trunk lmao (He also mentioned that it looks like it's not the same guy that made the T-series remake and the BX; it seems like the guy who made the bx had lower expectations instead of making a perfect vehicle like the T-series) Anyway I hope they fix it I was also disappointed about the intake filters; we previously had a great covet remaster where you could not only choose which intake but also change the filter!
@jwalster9412
Ай бұрын
I think alot of there focus right now is on the career. Which, fun fact, of you doa. Cop chase mission and the suspect hits a traffic vehicle, you get a Lua error.
@pigeondriver8992
Ай бұрын
@@jwalster9412 Ik for the cop chase, had to restart the career mode lol
16:40 Older cars often indicate with the hose from the fuel pump where the fuel cap is. I can send you a picture from my 1989 Suzuki SJ 413. It doesn’t have the arrow either.
@limitetpancake9459
Ай бұрын
i wanted to say the exact same thing, i also remember alot of cars my parents owned didnt have the arrow but just the pump with the hose in either direction
@fillman86
Ай бұрын
oh that's interesting, I didn't know that
@Freezorgium
Ай бұрын
@@limitetpancake9459 so wait, if the hose is on the right side in the picture, does that mean the filler cap is on the right side, or the left?
@limitetpancake9459
Ай бұрын
@@Freezorgium its made so it looks like the gas station your are pulling up to. so if the tube is on the right side, your fuel-cap will be on the left. and wise versa
@kosomies
Ай бұрын
@@limitetpancake9459 My tube is on the right and my fuel cap is on the right. 2002 V70
I can't even drive the new BX, Fill, it yeets me off the road faster than a hot pocket cooks in a furnace. Of course, this might be because I'm just bad at driving.
@Ocymber
Ай бұрын
no it’s the car
@TheRogueAdventurers
Ай бұрын
Weird, I find it to be the easiest car to drive now
@Ferrari255GTO
Ай бұрын
@@TheRogueAdventurers i don't have my replacement wheel yet but i felt like it was easyer to drive with a controller too
@xXxXENcoreXxXx
Ай бұрын
It's really hard to drive on the steering wheel.
@memorimusic420
Ай бұрын
No, as a certified 1400 hour+ player i can assure you its THE CAR
everything wrong that I could find before watching the video: -weird polygons inside the trunk -ugly textures (worse than usual) -low-poly seats (even though the ones IRL are flat and boring cloth, these in-game look much worse) that's about it ig
The s13 coupe had pop up lights in the north American market
@fillman86
Ай бұрын
same with every s13 180sx
Gonna join you in Nitpickington.. Those are T bolt clamps, not V bands :P
@fillman86
Ай бұрын
I thought they weren't exactly v-band, but no amount of googling was able to help. Thanks for the clarification :)
Top tip! "One Via" was actually fairly common as all USDM S13 coupes came factory with pop ups. The Silvia nose was never sold in the US, or Canada, so all S13's regardless of hatch or coupe, were pop up.
literally unplayable™
@fillman86
Ай бұрын
lol
One thing I'm not surprised you've missed is that if you set the front wheel offset as far out as you can the steering explodes when you turn.
@jwalster9412
Ай бұрын
Why would you need that lol?
@Incommensurabilities
28 күн бұрын
@@jwalster9412 steering is quite important for driving ;)
@jaihadgeppo150
25 күн бұрын
i mean i guess that would happen if you put 20cm spacers on?
@DracoSilverscar
24 күн бұрын
@@jwalster9412 i was attempting to use a set of rims that I ended up abandoning for bolide rims on all four corners with the widebody kit.
@DracoSilverscar
24 күн бұрын
@@jaihadgeppo150 nah. Shouldn't affect your steering parts much, just your wheel bearings.
ITB's intake is hidden in the dae files btw
The only thing I don’t like about it is the fact they removed the under glow lights it doesn’t make sense especially for this type of car 😢
@tylermatheson4376
Ай бұрын
Also they removed the power glow livery I can cope with that but the under glow lights are a little too much 😅
The line off the master cylinder is to pump brake fluid into your intake of course! 😂😂😂
@fillman86
29 күн бұрын
lol could you imagine a manual fuel pump that you pumped with your feet?
You should make more videos like this-I found this pretty entertaining. It does make me wish the devs did put a little more thought into some of the mechanical details of some of their cars. One thing that bothers me for no good reason is there’s a variant of the covet that says it has a special livery when it doesn’t. The livery is in the game files but for what ever reason the devs don’t use it even though they say they do.
@fillman86
25 күн бұрын
that's an odd one
The only thing wrong with the new BX is that they didn’t take this perfect opportunity to include a Wankel engine. I need my rapidly flailing dorito. Mainly because the mod i used to get a rotory engine in the BX doesn’t work with the new update. 😔
@fillman86
Ай бұрын
you can get the old BX as a mod, and all old mods will work with it I believe
@shorty______
Ай бұрын
@@fillman86that's why they decided to rename the platform, so all the old mods get dumped but if you really want them you can get the "coupe" back and use them
want one more? the brake master cilinder is on the same side on both hand drive versions
They need to make the door nodes stronger, the door flops around when you open it also, just so you know, the mirrored livery is actually on purpose, asked the devs about it
probably the new 200bx version could be my fav car in the game ahaha, i really like the style of the s13
literally unplayable
I love this game but something that pisses me off is the buttons in the car not working like the hazard light button. (I love realism)
17:05 ford pinto flashbacks (cute death machine)
As someone who has read 0.32.1 patch notes I know that the livery is supposed to be mirrored.
This video is so funny. I get that you are angry, but you show your anger in such a comedic way.
@fillman86
22 күн бұрын
lol I'm not angry, I'm just having a big of tongue in cheek fun
i cant believe he thinks the 200bx and diana are ugly... Oh well his mods are definetly better than what the people said. Keep modding!
@fillman86
29 күн бұрын
haha I just have very particular taste
The dumpster fire part had me laughing.
@fillman86
Ай бұрын
:D I'm glad one of you commented on it
Bro needed a missing arrow on the dash to remember that the car didn't have a fuel filler.
@fillman86
25 күн бұрын
since I've never driven a car to the point of running out of fuel (this has nothing to do with my driving skills....), so it's easy to forget
Votes for him to make a modern pickup. (Like a ETK 800 with a bed or a Cherrier with a bed or even a Roamer with a bed):
Ugly?? The new car looks great
@fillman86
Ай бұрын
I'm just particular about things like proportions etc
@masonritter1389
Ай бұрын
@@fillman86 I kind of agree with you, honestly. I don’t like the popup front end, it looks really weird especially compared to the old one. The fixed headlight front end looks great with a custom bumper, though.
I will say this - devs likely had reasons for all of these innacuracies, but one reason could be that they simply didn't know. Lack of knowledge is a good reason sometimes. When I draw, I tend to sometimes not grasp how something has to be drawn and I do it my way. Great video, man.
@fillman86
29 күн бұрын
I bet they do, but were given time restrictions, and were told just to add detail. That approach is fine, it doesn't actually change anything, it just gave me a small video idea
If you post this video under the 0.32 discussion thread, they might take a look at the video and fix some of the issues. I’m also pretty nit-picky and I did not realize all these small issues at first.
@teplonosia420
26 күн бұрын
have you seen the rear suspension links? they dont move correctly.
Your mods are actually good as extensions
@fillman86
21 күн бұрын
I think they're fun, but rarely deserving of the 5 stars that they get lol
@HansSouth
20 күн бұрын
@@fillman86 I think It can be better if you fill up those information about cars
It’s one of my favorite recent updates
Don't bite the hand that feeds you
@fillman86
29 күн бұрын
true, but they already don't like me :P
3:45 While the Sil80 wasn't initially made by Nissan as it's origins were from mountain racing and the stock pop up 180SX front end being more expensive to replace than that of the fixed headlight S13, Nissan did officially (albeit briefly) make and sell a select few models that were officially given a "Sileighty" badge in place of the typical 180SX badging on the car's B pillar. Kind of cool that Nissan back then just went "This was not my intention, but I shall adjust accordingly." lol
Whats sad is we waited 2 months for this
@fillman86
5 күн бұрын
it's not that bad, I was just having a bit of fun for a video
actually, not every car has an arrow showing where the fuel filler is.
if you put in the V8 and put on the turbo manifold, the top of the intake manifold has weird physics as the engine rocks side to side, like if you hit the throttle
Better have an update than nothing I guess
One issue I found that has to do with the actual driving characteristics is a missing/broken node in the rear suspension. The rear toe rods aren't attached to the subframe and wiggle around freely.
@fillman86
Ай бұрын
odd I didn't notice anything like that. I'll keep an eye out
To be fair some 90's cars had huge intercoolers from factory, the e36 325 TDS for example(ignore the 1.3 bar turbo)
This is actually so fun to watch, i want to see this with every new car in the game because seeing these little things is so funny
they said in the patchnotes for the hotfix, that the drift car variant having a mirrored livery was on purpose because its apparently a thing in the Japanese drift scene
The worst part is there is no option for an Inline-6 engine💀
@fillman86
24 күн бұрын
good point. It's a rare swap, but drifters and some show car owners loved to do it
@PR.Impreza
24 күн бұрын
@@fillman86 I just find it odd because there’s a config that’s based off the R32 GTR,but no TT inline 6. you should totally mod one in😂 Mostly cuz I have absolutely no idea how😆
The mirrored livery is intentional, not an issue
I honestly was expecting this video to be a total joke, but these are some very valid criticisms. While it doesn't really make me not appreciate this rework, after the amount of complexity and accuracy on the Belasco Diesel motor for the T-series, I'm very surprised by this quality. This looks like what you might find under the hood of a newer gta v car
missed opportunity to do a cinemasins type counter
@fillman86
24 күн бұрын
oh lol maybe one day
imagine being the dev that modeled this and coming home after a hard day to watch your favourite youtuber, only to find this video.
I think this is a neat idea for a video! A new vehicle or rework/remaster of an existing vehicle is released and you try to look for things that are wrong with it. I'd love to see more in the future 👍
Though the engine looks like a ca18 it is really more like a ka24 which does in fact use a distributor. Also, one thing that bugs me about the rework you didn't mention is the rear hatch has no hinges or struts. it just magically opens.
One thing I noticed is the entire engine bay and exhaust have been mirrored compared to the 240sx, which might be because the engine looks backwards from the real life KA24 and SR20
Omg! i didn't seen theese engine bay fails!
@fillman86
Ай бұрын
well the valve cover and throttle body are the easy ones to note, everything else is quite small
The canister the brake vacuum line goes to is a vacuum storage unit. Helps maintain vacuum after rapid brake applications. The line in the intake tube that should go to the ecu, is the intake air temp sensor. Why it goes to the booster.... Lol
@fillman86
Ай бұрын
I think I I knew of it, but never pieced it together
8:00 to be fair some engines like the E series from toyota used only 2 bolts to hold the valve cover
I love this type of nerding out, this is what I subscribed for!
Another problem I have with this and just Beamng in general is their lack of convertibles this and the K Series are two of the best examples
@fillman86
23 күн бұрын
well I can't fix that, but you may enjoy this video - kzread.info/dash/bejne/a6t8t5atgtG4eqw.html
also the engine is not animated the pully's don't turn like the D series engine!
@fillman86
Ай бұрын
yeah, but that engine has a fan to animate, so having the fan rotate but nothing else would be weird
I've found another issue: If you have a look at the "Street Tuned (M)" version you will see that there is a selector for an Auto in the center console despite it being a manual.
@Ferrari255GTO
Ай бұрын
The drag version doesn't have a lightweight backlight either, just regular glass
@Bread01.
Ай бұрын
They fixt it in the hotfix
onevias were the standard for coupes in america. if you had a coupe 240sx off of the lot, it was a onevia or a vert.
@fillman86
8 күн бұрын
yeah america's very strange and insular
i feel like if we ever get ATGs engine sim into beamNG they will do more detailing to the engine bay
@fillman86
26 күн бұрын
oh man that'd be wild! I don't believe that's what they're doing though, but instead a half measure because they don't need the whole thing, just better simulation
@tilen3266
26 күн бұрын
@@fillman86 true. Intergration is in atgs plan that he showed at the end of one of his videos. Ofc he didnt have any specific ideas on how it would be intergrated but yeah. Still would be cool
New channel member screen thingy looks good, channel member approved
i just noticed that the covet has THE EXACT SAME engine model (for DOHC I4)
@fillman86
21 күн бұрын
yeah, even the SR20 ended up in the Nissan Pulsar... though that was a performance variant, not the standard engine
im excited for when beamng just stops giving a shit about polygons lmao
@fillman86
14 күн бұрын
the problem is with the people with low end computers, and the fact that it's running on an ancient game engine
@Sillyyconn
13 күн бұрын
@@fillman86 LMAO
Do this as a series with all the vehicles with the occasional update when cars get updated int he future.
@fillman86
Ай бұрын
I'm thinking I might
The 200bx is literally unplayable
@fillman86
19 күн бұрын
lol
Your mods are the best. The only complaint I've ever had is the bug ute doesn't have a tow hitch, that's literally it. Thanks fore all the hard work
truly literally unplayable™ (©2023 BeamNG GMBH)
@fillman86
17 күн бұрын
lol
I love that the new bx looks like if Honda made a budget s13.
I always laugh about the Pinto and the Corvair since both cars' problems over time have been so overblown by culture, the Pinto didn't explode in a crash and the Corvair didn't just fold and go flipping across the road, and in fact the Pinto would've had no problems at all if the then-standard steel gas tanks were replaced by the safer polypropylene ones that the Pinto was in fact a big factor in the invention of, and the Corvair's suspension folding issues were solved under a year after the first was sold, but Ralph Nader already destroyed the reputation of the car by then since he was hunting for a car to blame and the Corvair unluckily ended up in his crosshairs. Car history is interesting
@BrooksMoses
29 күн бұрын
Yup. And the first-gen Mustang had a similar sort of bad design with the fuel tank. They're not _quite_ as close to the rear bumper, but they are "drop-in" tanks that form the trunk floor, and the wall between the trunk and car interior is just particleboard, so the gas tank is basically in the cabin as far as fire safety is concerned. And yet almost nobody ever talks about that. I do like that movie clip that he showed for the Pinto, though; it makes it clear just how silly the popular conception is.
BTW you missed the fact that I dont think theres even a COIL for the plugs on the damn thing
I have seen a coolant line from a radiator to a brake booster before, but that was on a time attack car, they had a water jacket around the brake booster for cooling the brake fluid.
@fillman86
18 күн бұрын
oh yeah, you'll get that on heavier time attack cars with lots of power, but not enough money for the super expensive brakes. They do some really odd things sometimes
*BeamNG.*_literallyunplayable_
The only thing I dislike about the Diana is the fact that it shares the same trim levels as its US counterparts, so it doesn't really feel any special apart from the front-ends and the bodystyle.
The drift livery is meant to be backwards. Dev said so in patch notes
The fuel tank indicator thing isn't always true while most cars have em i've also seen quite a few that don't, but having no fuel filler at all was funny😂
fillman woke up one day and chose violence 😂😂😂
@fillman86
27 күн бұрын
lol I just thought this’d make for a video that people would enjoy
The navigator mounts are too weak so it bounces around a lot and occasionally falls
that thing the vacuum line looks to go to is a vacuum pump. some engines that are higher power (or diesels) didnt produce vacuum(diesels) or not enough in the case with high power engine applications which makes sense on the higher end versions like the drag or drift but not a base model
2:43 hatchback? thought this was a coupe
your mods are just so fun to say that they are bad would be a lie
@fillman86
25 күн бұрын
lol
the logos being mirrored for the drift car is intentional, some irl drift cars are like that. The beamng logo on the car is likely representing a motorsport number plate which irl cant be mirrored because they dont allow that usually. I think the same goes for the sponsors on the plate.
actually not a v-band clamp. It's a HD-clamp
@fillman86
25 күн бұрын
correct, it's not actually a v-band, but as it turns out, this type goes by many different names, usually some variation of t clamp
What are you? My code reviewer from work?
the graphics on the drift skin are not laziness, on real drift cars its common to have it mirrored
"Could my mods suck? Hmm, no, it's the game that sucks."
You forgot one vital thing. On regular frame BXs (NOT the tubular frame like the drift/race cars have), the NA 4.5L V8 and 5.5L V8’s intake clips through the battery.