My theory about kiri is that she doesn't actually have a father at all, and that she is somehow born of grace and eywa. grace was mean to pass through eywa and return as jake did but was too weak from injury. However graces avatar body is still alive and I think that somehow that had some kind of effect where grace's avatar became pregnant from it, maybe from almost returning back into her avatar body, or even eywa returning grace in a way. And I think this is why kiri has such a strong connection to eywa. I dunno if that's stupid or not but it would explain why no father is known and kiri's connection o eywa.

@Geekritique

Жыл бұрын

Not stupid at all. This is the predominant theory as far I’m aware of, so I think you’re on the right track.

@noctua_caelum

Жыл бұрын

This makes a lot of sense, and seems to be suggested by Sigourney Weaver being cast as her. A woman in her 70s playing the voice of a teenage girl doesn’t really make a lot of sense unless it’s literally the same person reincarnated.

@mayfielcl

Жыл бұрын

Kirk is born of Grace’s avatar (that is dormant because it doesn’t have a spirit anymore) not grace herself so yeah

@sandscrapper8320

Жыл бұрын

You can also read it in the songcord translation

@jorgej.cruzhernandez9247

Жыл бұрын

Mo'at asked Eywa to save everything Grace was in her avatar body. Grace made tsaheilu with Eywa herself, in her human body! Eywa experienced a human mind for the first time, Grace's loving and empathetic mind for Pandora and the Na'vi! Kiri is like Eywa's manifestation of Grace's love and empathy. She doesn't even have to make tsaheilu beforehand to connect with and befriend animals... She's a Na'vi-Human hybrid with empathy on Eywa's steroids

Still better continuity than ‘8 YEARS LATER’ in Spider-Man: Homecoming…

@Geekritique

Жыл бұрын

MUCH BETTER continuity haha

@Person-wz6iy

Жыл бұрын

If that Flashback takes place in 2012 and the main movie in 2016, then how does that work?!

@Geekritique

Жыл бұрын

It doesn’t. Need to ignore it.

@Person-wz6iy

Жыл бұрын

@@Geekritique Ok thanks.

I still can't get over the fact that the Na'vi got space suits and everything 😅😅

@Geekritique

Жыл бұрын

I know right! They had them specially made to face the humans.

@drifteren123

Жыл бұрын

honestly didnt like that part - it just seems sooo strange for them to suddenly use rifles in zero gravity yet also walk around half naked using bows and arrowx

@mayfielcl

Жыл бұрын

@@drifteren123 same

@johnyaxon__

10 ай бұрын

​@@drifteren123exhibitionism

Movies like this I don't think about Timelines much other than which movie takes place first. Interesting to see it laid out when someone does.

@Geekritique

Жыл бұрын

Glad you appreciate it either way!

I think it’s bad they cut it all away, they should have made a separate movie about it. Because after your explanation for me the plot of second movie is more logical. For example, it seemed that Jake did not expect the return of humans at all and it makes him look very naive. The war of Omaticaya was practically not down and Jake just abandoned his clan. But these comics explain that they prepared, tried and lost, that’s why Jake decided to protect his family at least. And Spider’s arc is clearer now. I also liked that some humans turned out to be traitors

@Geekritique

Жыл бұрын

I agree, there’s a lot here that helps the second film make more sense. Glad you enjoyed the explanation!

@o-wolf

10 ай бұрын

It would've been 10hrs long 😂

@anastasialiulina8819

10 ай бұрын

@@o-wolf I’d still watch it)

@o-wolf

10 ай бұрын

@@anastasialiulina8819 yeh same, but they can't put that out it wouldn't be a viable product.. I'm just surprised they didn't put the middle bits on Disney plus as Cameron films everything he storyboards He was even talking about serialising it or doing a hateful 8 type showing.. but bob iger probly didn't wana spend the money

@anastasialiulina8819

10 ай бұрын

@@o-wolf true! I mean I don’t know what is going to happen in the next movies, but I would rather watch some of those skipped events in movie 2, and then see events of actual movie 2 in movie 3

wish they went into comic book lore in the movie, the explanation of the previous leaders parents being shunned to a fire/ash clan is very interesting

@Geekritique

Жыл бұрын

Maybe they will in the third film. 🤷🏻‍♂️ It wasn’t necessary information in the second film.

@HTMN161

5 ай бұрын

They’re weren’t banished to a fire clan, they were banished to a clan that welcomes Na’vi who have been exiled

@Geekritique

5 ай бұрын

Which happen to live in the “ashes”.

👍👍👍👍Fantastic! Thank you Dakota. As a huge fan of the Avatar movies, the Na'vi and Pandora (saw the first movie 14 times and TWoW 11 times, all viewings in IMAX 3D) I *really* appreciate the backstory. You've done a great job of spelling out the context for TWoW, and answering some questions I had.

@Geekritique

Жыл бұрын

So glad you liked it! Wow! 11 times! That’s amazing! I appreciate this comment. Thanks!

Thanks for the avatar content 👍🏻

@Geekritique

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the avatar comment 👍

Since there's a 3000 year time gap between Toruk The First Flight and The First Avatar I'd love to see stories in that Time period kinda like what Star Wars did with Legends

@Geekritique

Жыл бұрын

That would be very cool.

@GokaiRed1121

Жыл бұрын

@@Geekritique Very much

I love the Avatar movies 💙 5x in The Way Of Water and counting 🤩

@Geekritique

Жыл бұрын

Awesome! Love to hear it.

@Bit2bi

Жыл бұрын

Update: 6 times 💙🌊

@Geekritique

Жыл бұрын

Niiice

This is exactly what I've been looking for. Great video

@Geekritique

Жыл бұрын

Glad I could help!

Awesome!!! I’m here for all the Avatar info!

@Geekritique

Жыл бұрын

Glad you like it!

Well done as always, looking forward to your next video.

@Geekritique

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Dan!! Glad you liked it.

Great Video!

@Geekritique

10 ай бұрын

Thanks Justin!

I'd like to know more information how Earth discovered Pandora. Was it James Webb Telescope?

@Geekritique

Жыл бұрын

Most likely no, it was discovered in the latter half of the 21st century, so most likely it’ll be a far stronger telescope.

@chrism3784

Жыл бұрын

@@Geekritique likely later telescopes will be several telescopes placed along earths orbit that will all be working together which would be far superior then a single one of any size and would easily see a planet from a star in the sun's neighborhood

That was amazing

@Geekritique

Жыл бұрын

So glad you enjoyed it!

Recoms were definitely developed after events from first movie. In "The Way of Water" it's said that the memories of soldiers were copied right before the battle. We can assume recoms' bodies works similar to avatars. Avatars are fully developed after about five years. Recoms' bodies are definitely younger than 20 years.

@Geekritique

Жыл бұрын

Not according to the visual dictionary. Their bodies were maturing before Jake Sully ever reached Pandora.

@aleksbug853

Жыл бұрын

@@Geekritique ah, well I might be wrong then. I didn't went through the whole dictionary yet, but some details already made me revise my knowledge about the canon

Amazing! Can't wait for the next few MCU videos!

@Geekritique

Жыл бұрын

Thanks man!

@Buffy8Fan

Жыл бұрын

@@Geekritique Will the official Black Panther: Wakanda Forever continuity video be out before or after Quantumania?

@Geekritique

Жыл бұрын

What would you prefer?

@TopDiggerYT

Жыл бұрын

@@Geekritique I would like before so I can know before seeing the film, but don't rush it, if you can't get it out by the it's ok!

@Buffy8Fan

Жыл бұрын

@@Geekritique It doesn't matter to me. I just have it loosely placed until I see where you have it officially placed was why I was asking. You're the unofficial/official word for my timetable, which only has a few small differences from yours.

Love the intro!!!😂💙

@Geekritique

11 ай бұрын

Haha glad you like it!

Hey Dakota do you know when we should expect your full Black Panther: Wakanda Forever timeline video

@Geekritique

Жыл бұрын

Now that I’ve released my trilogy of Avatar videos I’m switching gears to the MCU now. Stay tuned.

i hope there will be much more movies than only 5 in total. when i saw the sequal, right away i felt like Why do they skip everything ?

@Geekritique

Жыл бұрын

Same here.

@michaeltenn983

Жыл бұрын

James Cameron said he has plans for 6 and 7

@beautyneytiri

Жыл бұрын

@@michaeltenn983 😮😮😮 Wow, ok.

Hey Geekritique, are you ever doing to do a timeline video for Ant-Man 3?

@Geekritique

Жыл бұрын

We did a small short video you can find on our channel, but yes. When it’s released digitally, we’ll do a normal timeline breakdown.

For an idea can you possibly do a arrowverse multiverse timeline?

@Geekritique

Жыл бұрын

That would be very difficult. Maybe some day.

Hi! Thank you for video! 😍 There are a few inconsistencies in "The Way of the Water" in my opinion that are haunting. Perhaps you can comment on them correctly. 1) Where did the Metkayin tribe go in the final battle. Then only Sally remained to fight, as well as Tsireya. 2) According to the film, all Metkayina speak English. Of course, I understand that it is unacceptable to implement viewing on subtitles here. But is it then worth considering that they actually speak the Navi language?

@Geekritique

Жыл бұрын

Hey there. To answer your questions: 1. That’s a definite plot hole, they’re gonna have to answer that at some point. Either in flashbacks or in the comics. 2. In the beginning of the film they explain that they’re speaking Na’vi the whole time, but it starts sounding like English to Jake. So yes, the Metkayina are speaking Na’vi.

@nyanko5507

Жыл бұрын

@@Geekritique Thanks a lot for your answers! :)

1:20 .. i thought in the explainer video, boss man says theyre sending the samples back to earth and that quarich is about to go on the big bomber mission... so he had full knowledge of all but final deadly battle essentially?

@Geekritique

Жыл бұрын

That’s correct, but if you remember the explainer video, Selfridge says they’re growing in a lab on earth as we speak. So it’s likely the Avatar was just a vessel that they were now backing up with memories before their battle.

@CalebBrandalise

Жыл бұрын

@@Geekritique strange they wouldnt need the dna at conception. thanks! great vids

@Geekritique

Жыл бұрын

Well they likely do. Meaning, they took a sample from Quaritch and others years before the memories were sent to earth.

Are you going to be doing an in depth Wakanda forever timeline

@Geekritique

Жыл бұрын

Just started work on it.

The description of the body type of the avatar was around 20 years old, the body itself isn't 20, ship time (because of light speed) it takes 3 years, that's 5 years on earth, in that time they reach adult size

@Geekritique

Жыл бұрын

The body was already growing in a lab on earth before Quaritch died on Pandora. 15 years later, it’s not unbelievable that the body had been growing for 5 more years.

@michaeltenn983

Жыл бұрын

@@Geekritique is that like comic book info? I haven't read them but I really want to

@Geekritique

Жыл бұрын

It’s explained in more detail in the Visual Dictionary.

Why this was t the plot for Avatar 2 boggles the mind.

This is the way……of water

@Geekritique

Жыл бұрын

Haha! Thanks for the comment! You’re the first on this vid.

so in order tounderstand spider's existence you must know the comic books ?

@Geekritique

Жыл бұрын

Not necessarily. Most of what we know comes from The Way of Water. The comics just flesh out more of his lore and backstory.

Hey dude u forgot one thing in ur newest mcu timeline, if u reply il say

@Geekritique

Жыл бұрын

Sir, this is an Avatar video.

@burgergud2804

Жыл бұрын

@@Geekritique I mean yeah but this is ur newest video so

@burgergud2804

Жыл бұрын

@@Geekritique Bruh

Well thanks for the timeline. But man this should be a TV series, not a bunch of movies.

@Geekritique

5 ай бұрын

That would be incredible!

i feel like avatar franchise is going to be like star wars franchise, there will be struggle, fear one of the family members turns evil something like that, probably in the 4-5 movie idk maybe

@Geekritique

11 ай бұрын

That would be really interesting!

You know what I don’t get, is that spider should have an avatar he is the oldest son of jake and neytiri he is even older then Netaym but don’t quote me on that either

@Geekritique

10 ай бұрын

It takes years to produce an Avatar. Just not feasible.

@MSF-Amaar

10 ай бұрын

@@Geekritique ooohhhh

U forgot about loak

@Geekritique

Жыл бұрын

What about him?

Hold up… norm adopted a Navi orphan???

@Geekritique

Жыл бұрын

Yep!!

Well it takes 6.75 years to travel to pandora (From the persepctive or earth, 5 years and 9 months in film), and likely they don't have ftl communication, so basically nothing happened to humanity, they magically teleported a call to make a bunch of crap to take over a planet in literally like 7 months then instantly sent it back to pandora They could've just made Na'vi age slower than people to keep the children as children but no, they decided breaking their own universes laws is better lol

So soon after your last video. Isn't that a bit off-brand for this franchise?

@Geekritique

Жыл бұрын

I had this video written before finishing the previous video. This concludes my trilogy of Avatar vids. Had to get it off my chest haha.

This was great thanks

@Geekritique

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

1st and 2nd Avatar movies are 13 years gap.

@Geekritique

10 ай бұрын

In terms of how long it took to release. But in-universe it’s slightly longer.

avatar comic books.... WHAT ??? since when do they eixst ???

@Geekritique

Жыл бұрын

We discuss it more in our Avatar Timeline video from December, but they began making them in 2017.

Don't forget the video games are also canon.....

@Geekritique

Жыл бұрын

Yep! But as of now we don’t know how they affect these 15 years.

Did you really Call us morons?

@Geekritique

Ай бұрын

“Bros and skxawngs”, you’re either a bro or a skxawng. You decide 🤣

4:09 I WONDER..... Mangkwan.

@Geekritique

Жыл бұрын

HMMMM 🤔

@Geekritique

Жыл бұрын

Hope you enjoyed the video!

@Person-wz6iy

Жыл бұрын

​@@Geekritique I did thanks!

The second movie was an abortion. Absolutely horrible.

@Geekritique

6 ай бұрын

Loved it. Favorite film of the 2020s so far.