Do you think that extreme religions and cults are intrinsically linked with abuse and scandals? Or can it be avoided?

@maryannlockwood7806

Жыл бұрын

Maybe not exclusively but when there’s secrets & people are under control it definitely seems that way.💁🏻‍♀️

@MartySeeks

Жыл бұрын

When you are told to suppress natural desires it leaves you like a coiled spring, the smallest amount of freedom from the heavy footprint of indoctrination can send you a little overboard.

@jasontaylor6779

Жыл бұрын

I have shared privately with Andrew a personal story I won't repeat in public. But yes

@catherinemcmartin8275

Жыл бұрын

YES!

@allannahk

Жыл бұрын

Andrew: the way it makes you feel is like you want to rip your skin off and walk out of it because you live IN the disgust all of the time. It never goes away. Ever.

You ver forget, I was raped at 8yrs old, I am now 73 it still comes to mind each time I hear about yet another young girl going through what I did. This is the first time I have mentioned it to anyone, after all it happened in 1957. You really do never forget.

@eilemoo3272

Жыл бұрын

God Bless you - I picture ny 8 year old Grand Daughter and think what an absolutely horrific thing to go through at such a young age . I think I would do time for Killing or Maiming such a Beast.

@juttadestiny6810

11 ай бұрын

❤️💜💚💙🧡❤️💜

If any jehovah’s witnesses are watching this and feel they need to defend the organisation’s policies, can you tell us why protecting the reputation of a “society” is more important than the safety of children?

As an ex jw … it’s a cult and causes misery

@viggycat8592

Жыл бұрын

I wish I could convince a friend of mine of that!

@renafielding945

Жыл бұрын

I wish someone had told me that. 😢

@Letts_prey

Жыл бұрын

Ditto, and wholeheartedly agree.

My aunty joined JW late in life.... she became bitter and twisted and we stopped seeing her.. She got breast cancer and had a double mastectomy without telling anyone us.... not long later she died. None of us were aware she was that sick. Her funeral was the most disgusting recruitment drive I've ever seen.. I almost stood up and left as they never spoke of her at all, and she was a fantastic person til She met them. She was important to me and that was nothing to them at the end... she was just a tool to reach more people for them. To me she was aunty ❤️ Sickening 😢

@hsk2909

Жыл бұрын

The only thing they go on about on EVERY occasion is jehova. Horrible cult.

@sunnyadams5842

Жыл бұрын

My heart goes out to you. I cried as I read your story, hon... Keep her close in your heart. She's still the one you love in God now.

@lizzyfolks9116

Жыл бұрын

I’ve seen this in core “Christian” funerals. For that reason, I don’t go to them: it’s more about the religion than the person. If the ceremony is a celebration of life NOT sponsored and led by any “Christian” organization, I will attend if I knew the family/person well.

There is nothing a child or young person- can say or do to stop a pedeophile! IT IS NEVER THE CHILD OR TEENAGERS FAULT!!

@sallywillis1448

Жыл бұрын

Abused by an uncle at 13 I thought I had done something terrible and now I had a terrible secret. 10 years later, understanding more, I told my mum and she brushed it off with, "Oh, that happens to all girls." No wonder I had not said a word to her or anybody before. This was in the sixties.

@HollyDavidson-ff1fc

Жыл бұрын

F😊😊😊c😊😊😊xpcss😊😊😊

@gincee6156

Жыл бұрын

​​Sorry, but in my view, your mother is a monster, not much better, than the abuser. My grandfather started touching me inappropriate, then I was 5. I didn't say anything at first. My parents always insisted, that we kiss grandpa & I suddenly refused, stating that he slabbert worse, than my baby brother. We were never left alone with grandpa after my statement.

@cherrylane6505

Жыл бұрын

@@sallywillis1448 well, sorry to hear that, but, your mother only compounded the problem, and became part of the problem. I hope you have come through everything ok.💜

@sunnyadams5842

Жыл бұрын

​@@sallywillis1448I'm so sorry. My mom ignored my reports too. She still is. She divorced my father because he was a cheating fool but seems to think I need to stay with him forever. Urgh!! So sorry. Unfortunately, but we are not alone😢

As somebody that worked for over 20 years in a customer/sales center I appreciate so much how you "lead" the interview. It has introduction, core, summary, ending. You give enough space for your guests to talk. Your questions are well prepared and lead the conversation. You also choose your guests very wisely and they are all fantastic, brave and survivors. Your interviews are professional, educational and sensitive. Just wanted to say: Thank you, Andrew!

@tylersims6937

Жыл бұрын

Yes, and extremely well said.

Lacie, it's okay to cry. I'm a father of 20-month-old and almost 5-year-old girls and I'm crying for you and hoping that they'll always be safe. You are very brave to share your story, I just wish that it didn't need to be told

@dukecity7688

Жыл бұрын

I wish my granddaughter had a dad like you -

@missmissy_90

Жыл бұрын

​@@dukecity7688 Sometimes the less you say the more I try to read between the lines. In your comment I'm praying that your granddaughter is safe but has a deadbeat dad but not a cruel one. Much love sent from a grandmother in California. I have one daughter and two grandsons. Age 6 and other almost 16. ❤❤

@missmissy_90

Жыл бұрын

@ Swamp Lovely comment. Tough listening but my ears were glued. It's so hard to imagine little children going through this type of trauma. To find out that after the Roman Catholic abuse of boys 😢 and this stuff continuing under another blanket of elders. Not to mention all the abuse that has nothing to do with Churches but happening behind closed doors. It makes me so sad. To top it off now safe spaces like school are getting into innocent children's brains that have good families if you know what I mean. When does it ever stop? I cried too.

@swampk9

Жыл бұрын

@@missmissy_90 My wife and I are on the same page when it comes to rearing our two little girls, as we both have suffered our own trauma, and because of our jobs are well aware of what can happen in some of the most unassuming homes. All I can say to all of us is be diligent. Keep your eyes open. Keep your ears open. Don't dismiss how your children are responding to the world around them. I am determined to not be the parent who says to himself, "if I had only paid more attention." I heard a guy the other day say that being a helicopter parent is a slight inconvenience to the child when compared to a lifetime of trauma.

I'm sat here with my younger Sister, she's on the right side of 50 whilst I've crossed that threshold. We are survivors of the cult and I'm proud to say She has sort help recently and is going through therapy ran by an ex Witness as I type. My own experiences I won't recount here because it's not about me, I just wanted to say to this young lass she should be very proud of herself for speaking out. Many don't. Very brave kid and if I wasn't a big thoroughly emotionless old git, the lump in my throat prevented my eyes from leaking. These evil backstards running the organisation should be held to account along with those they protect. Flucking awful and I'm having to get some air. Good luck to you. X

@irenedemarco1354

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for validating that men are affected too...very brave of you May you have inner peace...

Unfortunately predators know all too well how to isolate their victims and makes them afraid them afraid to speak up it’s so disgusting and disturbing I’m so sorry 💔😢

@tammyg8031

Жыл бұрын

No longer will fear keep many silent. Protest details at: be free 2023

If only we didn't allow religion to provide cover for creepy, disgusting perverts. My heart breaks for this lady

During my 39 years living in England, I met several very nice and kind witnesses. However, when I looked into it more deeply, I was shocked by the amount of abuse in the cult.

@realhealthrealwealth

Жыл бұрын

That's ALL reLIEgions for ya.

@realhealthrealwealth

10 ай бұрын

@aldabat3903 25 + year I swallowed the BS of Christianity from Catholic to Assembly of God, Charismatic, Word of Faith,...it's ALL the same. reLIEgions are used by the elites to keep the populations enslaved to those who deem themselves superior hierarchy authority elites narcissistic psychos for generations. OBEY!!! The likes of Romans 13 is why ALL book gods exist. OBEY!!

Really good interview Andrew, with Ms. Lacie Jones. How sad! I remember for many years Jehovah Witnesses were always walking the streets of my town...knocking on doors, wanting to talk about Jesus. They came in pairs of 3 (usually 2 women, 1 man) wanting to come into my home and talk to me about the bible! I would say NO, I don't believe in your religion and shut the door. So they would leave a disgusting pamphlet. This cult religion is run by men. Women are considered inferior.Thank God, they finally stopped! The gall of this cult demanding to come into my home so they could start their Sunday School speeches on me:((( and they were total strangers! I am sure Ms. Lacie Jones is finally happy that she called this cult out! God Bless her for doing so.

My daughter in law was brought up in this sect ,she was fellowshiped and has been very damaged by all of this. Religion should be about love and forgiveness. I feel for this young woman,I pray she can find peace of mind. 🙏🙏

I was friends with a JW and he was the most emotionally manipulative person I’ve ever had the misfortune to meet. They’re trained that way for the door to door ministry. They learn how to prey on people’s emotions and exploit their weaknesses in order to recruit them. Whether they realise that’s what they’re doing, I don’t know.

Lacie is so brave for speaking out.

This cult is the worst on the planet next to Children of God aka The Family. As a CSA survivor as well, there are many of us supporting each other having been in the JW's. Well done for speaking up Lacie. Big hugs to you. You are a brave warrior.

@Geoplanetjane

Жыл бұрын

LDS too

My heart breaks for Lacey. She is so incredibly brave to come out and speak about this. I’m not a Jehovah’s Witness but I use to work with one & she was a hideous manipulative narc bully - she was middle management and spent her whole time making up stories and Dobbing on people. We would call her. The witness from the watchtower and the stupid boss would believe her. He wasn’t a Jehovah’s Witness just sucked in by her manipulation. Anyway, she’s completely unhappy, I have heard from my former colleagues , Melbourne Australia So much love and respect to Lacey

@suemcdermott2947

Жыл бұрын

I worked for 1. Very crooked business wise, but a memory that liars dream of, despite drinking half to a whole bottle of whisky every night.

@ivysarab

Жыл бұрын

@@suemcdermott2947 oh yes this Jehovah drank a lot as well - her husband is an elder

@allyw1364

Жыл бұрын

My Friend Married a JW and I haven't seen her in well over 15 years now he totally Isolated her cut her off from everything , he was shady when I met him,he wouldn't look me in The Eye EVER. plus he was just a really Bizarre Guy never worked , he made her go out and earn money I heard through the Grapevine that she divorced him finally so hope she is happy now

Lacie my heart just broke when you said you didn't want to hurt your mum. You are truly one amazing young lady. Praying for your total healing in Jesus Christ's Holy Name Amen

@missmissy_90

Жыл бұрын

Mine too. Not to mention step dad knew that.

Innocence is exactly what these predators are attracted to, albeit for different motivations.

I so wish these predators would get locked up for LIFE, NO PAROLE( because they will NOT stop this & destroy so many others lives)! These are children that have NO chance! It destroys their lives… so glad she’s speaking out, but just imagine how many others he has sa’d!!!!! Children need to be protected. These predators are EVERYWHERE!( just waiting, grooming their victims, conning everyone, using religion, teaching, coaching, babysitting as a way to get to the little ones)…. They are 100% EVIL & need to be stopped! They definitely “HIDE” in these extreme controlling( men in control) religions( cults)! It’s so hard for single Mothers( having to work, busy with other children, overwhelmed with all responsibilities, & having to rely on support(sometimes strangers)…. Then the Mothers are used & abused & humiliated!!! I hope she uses her trauma to help children & getting these horrible abusers convicted! I hope she can some kind of healing & peace in her life…..

My heart breaks for Lacie, I’m so sorry for how she suffered at the hands of someone who, yet again, uses the umbrella of their cult to protect themselves. I’ve grown up with JW’s, not my immediate family but my aunties and cousins have all grown up with emotional turmoil. The Elders are trusted by the flock but the SA is rife because they are their own judge and jury.

I had a letter from a local Kingdom Hall and wondered how they got my address. Speaking with other neighbours, I discovered they also received letters welcoming them to the Jehovah Witness Church. Later I had some people from the church call at my house and wanted to introduce me to their religion. Sometime later a recently new neighbour came to chat to me whilst I was tending my garden. She was a Jehovah’s Witness and tried to get me to join their religion. It was then that the penny dropped and I realised how the Witness group got my address. I told my neighbour that I didn’t belong to any particular religion and that I just tried to be a good person and did not feel the need to join. They dropped me like a ton-of-bricks. Instead of being the friendly neighbour, they became extremely aloof and could barely pass the time of day. I believe their renewed attitude to me was because I did not want to join their church. THANK YOU TO YOU BOTH FOR HIGHLIGHTING THIS. IT ONLY GOES TO CONSOLIDATE MY FEELINGS OF THE WHOLE CULT. 👏🙏👏

Lacie, thank you for having the strength and courage to share your story with all of us. 💗 I was CSA by my Mom’s brother starting when I was three years old, so I understand the trauma that never fully goes away, no matter how much therapy, EMDR, etc. that you do. And thank you Andrew for having Lacie on your podcast and providing a safe environment for Lacie to share her story. 💞

Most of my family are jws and they definately split families apart

I've seen lacie give a couple of other interviews so I knew the story. She is an absolutely amazing woman, I can't even express how brave she is to do what she does. Andrew you asked some questions no one else has, you're a top rate interviewer, very compassionate while getting to the truth . I was a JW growing up untill 23 years old and I can honestly say there's so many more people with history similar to lacie and also other kinds of abuse. It's a destructive cult and people need to be informed. Brilliant interview, Lacie you're just fantastic and courageous and you've been able to keep your true lovely self through all of this. I look up to you xxx

Hello from Beirut Lebanon. All extreme religions and/or cults have abuse. It seems to be intrinsic part. I think that it demonstrates the absolute power they have on their members. We have seen this all through history, and I’m afraid that it will keep on.

@CONEHEADDK

Жыл бұрын

Blah - it's everywhere...

@missmissy_90

Жыл бұрын

​@@CONEHEADDK You're right, it is every where which breaks my heart. Why the blah?

@CONEHEADDK

Жыл бұрын

@@missmissy_90 Bcz it's not about "the tribes" - it's about humans.. And - if you look deeper, you will find, that other animals also use unwilling subjects also of other species, for "that kind of fun".. I reacl a "Monkey f*cks frog" from YT years ago. Might still be there, and others in the same department...

@CONEHEADDK

Жыл бұрын

@@missmissy_90 Yep - it's still there, like many other strange ones..

@CONEHEADDK

Жыл бұрын

@@missmissy_90 For some "sstrange reason, I can only read a part of your comment in my otifications, and not find it here at all.. But No problem. Besides it being hard to read people's minds from text alone, I'm hard to insult or sadden.. Your cmnt in my notificaions stops at "I was in many recovery centers for my a..." I hope you are "OK" now, or at least "OK enough" to live, instead of just surviving.. I've known a few (that I know of, and then all the ones, who's never told anyone, or at leastnot me) girls/women, who have been through this kind of thigns, and I know far to well, how much it can ruin.. I have been "lucky enough" to just have grown up with a dad, who beat me up, and threatend to off my sister - who had I a lot easier than me, so from I was 10, home was the place, I was most scared of going.. Not an optimal childhood.. ;)

Lacie, im so sorry this happened to you. Thank you for being brave and telling your story. You didnt deserve this. It wasnt your fault. You are so strong to tell this, im sure there are many people who have been through the same.

Lacey you spoke so well and confirmed what I always thought of JW. The members are incredibly forceful. I remember returning to Australia (my home) after spending 3 years overseas. On my return, I found a unit to rent and a neighbor offered to give me a lift to the local shopping centre. Within a day I received an invitation in an envelope and I sincerely thought it was a "get together with friends over a drink or dinner". To my surprise it was a JW thing 🤨and I almost threw up🤢🤮on her face!! Thankfully she no longer lives here and left town.

Lacie, Hearing your story was absolutely heartbreaking, so much trauma, so much betrayal, the re-victimization by the religion. I so understand the paralysis. There's a book, "Miss America by Day," where Marylin Van Der Ber Atler describes years of paralysis while she was healing from years of incest by her father. You are admirably, talking about your experiences and the sick, sick system that protects perpetrators. Same here in Mormon Utah. Thank You so sharing millions of others' horrendous stories, who have not yet found their voices. 💙💙💙

Thank you Lacie and Andrew for this powerful interview. It was raw and very painful I’m sure to recount your abuse Lacie but it reinforces the fact that any still connected with JW’s need to escape and distance ourselves from an organisation that has allowed these sort of abuses to go on and cover up the crimes and protect the perpetrators in so doing. It’s disgusting and should be exposed. I personally know of a convicted elder who has “done his time” in prison and is back in a congregation where people would have no idea of his past even though you could Google and read the court transcript. There are many more instances of shocking CSA that I have known has happened where the perpetrator was disfellowshipped but not convicted so still a risk to the community .. and these were men who were “elders” in the congregation. Their victims struggle to this day. It’s wicked and no amount of their shiny PR can gloss over this any more thanks to brave people like you Lacie.

Thanks for highlighting this on your channel Andrew 👏. Massive respect for Lacie, brave brave woman 🫡✊️. I'm so sorry this happened to you. Sending love 🩷.

Countries need to stop the tax exemption and watch how fast these grifters disappear

Dear Lacie, I am a 68 yr old woman and have such a similar story but I was then part of the Catholic Church. My heart goes out to you. Keep up with the counselling. Back when it happened to me there was no such thing available. ❤❤❤

@eilemoo3272

Жыл бұрын

I'm beginning to think the Catholic Church is a Cult too

@juliad368

Жыл бұрын

thank you for reminding everyone that the catholic church is THE most know cult to engage in the p word. but somehow no one bats an eye lid if you're part of that cult.

His behavior was evil and criminal, referring to this as sick allows him wiggle out of responsibility for his actions.

@orangepeel3465

Жыл бұрын

ABSOLUTELY, Christine!!

@orangepeel3465

Жыл бұрын

It insinuates there can be a recovery process!!

Andrew. Such torment. This young woman is finding a voice who had her childhood stolen. Your platform is so important.

My favorite uncle and the funniest man ever, committed suicide whilst being a Jehova's witness. I never knew why and I will never know. Although I don't suspect abuse per se. Of course he got a very poor burial, because, yeah, suicide is forbidden in their religion. It's creepy what kind of thoughts can get installed in people's heads.

@missmissy_90

Жыл бұрын

So sorry.

This is so awful she had to go through this horror. Just disgusting he did those things to her. What a monster.

Never allow your child sleep with your step-dad in anybed at any age. Why did the mother allowed that is beyond me.

Lacey you are a beautiful woman both inside and out. Your courage in openly talking about your traumatic experiences will doubtless help others who think they are alone in thier suffering and may give them the courage to seek help and mend thier lives.. and ultimately expose other predators... Best wishes to you for a happy, healthy and fulfilling future...you deserve it ❤

Im so happy this amazing and strong woman is standing and sharing the most painful and humiliating memories. Lacie did nothing wring and this shame is not on her shoulders. But doesnt mean thats how she feels inside. Keep bringing the light so these monsters like cliff cant continue to do these awful things 😢

What a beautiful , eloquent and brave young lady. Hold your head high Lacey, you're an inspiration. You have dealt with the devil and are still standing...you go live your best life for you deserve it. Wishing you the absolute best for your future ❤😊

Thank you for sharing your story. I went through this with my step dad. I am now in my 70's and it is hard for me to forget or trust.

Thank you for bringing Lacy’s story and exposing the JW religion/cult yet again 💗

You poor thing. You’ve been through the wringer. It’s horrific when the person who is supposed to protect you is the abuser.

@tammyg8031

Жыл бұрын

Yes, it is. That's why laws need to be put in place that better protect children and members who have been silenced through their leadership. The government needs to get involved and make the leadership be held accountable.

@maryjacobs5920

Жыл бұрын

Almost 60 still struggling

Witnessses came to the door in 1974. I was acutely Ill and my children were toddlers and also acutely ill. We were so sick we were lying on pallets on the floor, unable to get up. They didn’t comment on our distress or ask if there was something they could do for us. They wanted 25 cents each for the Watchtower and Awake magazines they left and I couldn’t pay them. I will not forget that. What charity they showed to a poor sick woman and her sick children. And that’s nothing compared to how they treated my father in law years later. I am so done with that bunch of lunatics.

I'm behind in my andrew gold watching but I just wanted to say I am incredibly proud of Lacey for stepping out and sharing her story... I remember being on a hike with my aunt when I was about 8 years old and she preached the JW end of days to me and it shocked me that they told that to children since I wasn't raised religious. 25 years later my aunt wouldn't even attend her own sons memorial service due to her religious belief which in itself was unbelievable to me but I also know her sons were abused in the church because they told me. Thankfully their father took them out of the church eventually but it was too late for my cousins it messed them up and they had very difficult teenage years. So thank you for continuing to expose this cult.

That sounds like a wicked cult. Young people will think that is real , when these adults are puting the fear to them. Making your followers scared will give you more controll over them. That is power to the elders. Just think for yourself and stay away from these prediters. People, believe in your own thoughts be strong Andrew you are the only person , I think that has the courage to expose these controlling prediters. Thank you. ❤

I’m so proud of Lacey telling what happened to her, it’s so sad 😭. I can’t find the words to explain how much my heart goes out to you. Andrew it must’ve been very difficult for you to share what happened but, I know people need to know and understand real things that is happening

Here’s to the wonderful men who truly love us and support us in our trauma.

Thank you Lacie Dear for sharing I know it was so hard for you.

May speaking now help you to heal, Lacey. You are helping others to avoid abuse or have courage to get out and heal.

@eilemoo3272

Жыл бұрын

Yes or Hooefully Prevent other Vulnerable People from ever Joining such a Dangerous and Damaging Cult.

What a beautiful lady. I hope she gets all the help and love that she deserves. Bless her 😢

Lacy, your story gave me chills. When you described how he deliberately isolated from your mom n sis bt pitting you against struck me how similar tactics were used by the person that abused me.

i could only watch half of the interview. i become quite overwhelmed and emotional listening to this brave young lady. what you had to endure, no child should’ve gone through. all the best to you.! keep smiling.. ☺️😊 ✌🏻🌏🇦🇺🤘🏻

I hope your bravery and being so honest about your trauma and abuse helps you to heal Lacey. You are a survivor .. thank you for sharing your story as hard as it was to listen I felt obliged to do so. I hope your future is bright and positive.. thanks for handling this interview so sensitively Andrew 🙏🏼 The more this subject is aired the more we can call out and end abuse

They left me with the trauma and stole my children.

Well done Lacey! As heartbreaking as it was to hear your story, it says a lot about you having the strength to speak up. I wish you every possible happiness and healing. How horrific! Sadly, how typical of the JWs (was a child JW, the cover up everything which is how my parents left). The damage that organisation does.... its vile! And they get away with it

She is such a brave young woman for exposing this criminal organization. I wish they would expose his name and press charges against this CREEP. These types of podcasts are really difficult to watch.. But it's soo necessary to see the behavior profile of predators.

you think men who do this to young girls and boys care about long term effects on the victim? they don't care about the actual physical pain and trauma at the time of the crime. they do not care about the consequences unless the consequences are on them. they have no empathy, remorse or guilt concerning the child. how can they do it? because they enjoy it.

I'm so impressed by your bravery. You are helping everyone who have similar, awful experience... I don't even know you but i got so much angry at this monster who hurt you (and all the children, innocent souls), justice is one thing - i'm sure he have "fun" in prison. But you need to live with that whole life and struggle with PTSD. I hope the theraphy and support will continue to help you deal with that. All the best to you! You are amazing!💜

My landlady was a JW. She was pretty cool but she had a friend who every time she came over to visit she would knock on my door and try to convert(harass) me. I am turned off to it because it's all - US v THEM just like Scientology and other cults.

Bless your heart! I admire you being very reasonable and analytical. I hope your life and luck will go up and up and up. ❤

This breaks my heart, Lacy!! You're hell ... it's still so fresh for you! Your voice so shakey ... it's horrible! We are told God will take of him later .... it's so hard not to want him to have the same trauma! But you were a little girl!! This makes me sooooo angry!! And the fact Elders did nothing infuriates me! Yes, it does repeat in your mind and the triggers are there! I have been away from mine for 50 years and it was a one time incident .... and the nightmares and triggers are there but much less often. Hang in there. I am soooo happy you're in therapy!! Once I went for therapy I felt much better! You'll be in my prayers, sweet lady!

Wow so brave ❤ I have the feeling she will continue to be an advocate throughout her life & help many more.

I made a decision about 4 years ago that l no longer want to 'belong' to any church group. I do believe in the teachings within The Bible. I will always try to live by that. I was born into the LDS, Mormon religion. Baptized at 8 years old. Became inactive after school in 1992. Went back in 2012 and finally left again, never went back since 2015. My husband again grew up as a Witness, still going through a study, wanting to get baptized. He put me under a lot of pressure to join studies with him, l said l did not want to join any church again. I will be going through a divorce next month 2yrs after getting married, due to various reasons. I am done with feeling afraid of the future if l do not live within certain constraints of a specific religion. Thank you for bringing these topics to the spotlight. South Africa

I think his sorry was to help keep her quiet.

Nasty predators creep into every religion at some point. It's not fair to paint all with the same brush. Justice should be served on the predator involved. These pervs can seem very charming and nice.

I used to have a girlfriend that was JV, when I was 19, and she 17, of course we had to date secretly. Eventually we broke up, but she got out of the cult like 6 moths later, as a result of our relationship as she said. But we never came back together. She still lives nearby here btw.

Lacy, I am so sorry this happened to you! What he did was so so wrong!! You are so brave for talking about this. I am sure you have helped so many who have gone through the same thing. Just knowing they aren't alone is so helpful! You are wonderful!!!

My god! How will she be able to marry, have her own children, and trust her husband with them. This will take a lot of help to get her through to a place of trust.

Thank you, Lacey❤STAY YOU! STAY STRONG! You r loved & cherished❤

My only experience with the JW cult was having worked with a lady whose husband was JW. He made life very difficult for her. She wanted to bring her two children up in the Christian Faith but he would tell her and the two small children that the church would blowup if they entered the building. Of course, this scared the children every time they went to church with their mother. She always assured them they would be okay but it made going to church very difficult. This experience was several years ago and I lost contact with her. She was considering divorce and imagine she ultimately went through with it.😢

@CONEHEADDK

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I chewed one of their elders up alive, when I was 20ish, by deconstructing his claim, that JW was against bigami.. Since it's written in their "law" (a letter from some early guy - founder maybe) "we are against it in USA, bcz we always follw a countires laws", the BECAUSE with noting else, is a confession.. He didn't say, he agreed, but it was obvious, he felt caught in the act.. Weak piece of shed..

what a brave woman for sharing this. must have been super difficult.. i hope everything best for her. great interview andrew. glad you took her feelings to account and didnt ask too uncomfortable questions like many others do with traumatized people to get clicks.

Lacie- i am from America and your "accent" is so beautiful to me. Most importantly.. you are so articulate and well-spoken. As a mother and grandmother, it just kills me to see all you've been through!! I hope you know how special you are and how much you are helping others!! Thank you for your talk and wisdom!!!

The pain of abuse never goes away. You are so brave to speak about it, I still can't talk about it 50 years later. People need to understand how prevalent this is, society both in and out of religion is sadly blighted by this and most people are in denial. Abusers are clever and manipluative, everyone needs to look hard at what's happening in front of their eyes.

What a brave woman.

how courageous you are❤❤sending you much love

Soooo much of what she said is exactly how i felt when i was 9 and my nanny's adult nephew dropped by and visited my room at night. The feeling that you know it's wrong and you're so scared that you don't do anything.

I am 63 and it's almost impossible to live with and at this stage in my life I'm ready to put this rock down so as I may sleep.

Dear girl ❤. Thank you so much for having the courage to share. I can only imagine the terror and trauma you must have experienced (and probably still do at times). Evil always seems to follow the innocent, the beautiful souls in this world 😢. I am aure your speaking out will help others. Sending you much love 💕🙏🌹🌹🌹

Andrew... As a subscriber to your channel, i have listened to many of your videos....The discussion with Lacy was a very powerful one for me... I have come across Lacy,s dreadful experience on other channels but it wasn't until your interview with her that a name came to light that made hairs stand up on the back of my neck... As Lacy spoke i was intrigued by her accent..it sounded familiar to me but i couldn't be certain...For many years i was a J.W. but faded a few decades ago...but during some of my years i was involved in Northamptonshire... Lacy could easily have been from this area but i cannot be certain... But then she mentioned two elders by name one of whom was a Rudy Dobson... As mentioned earlier the hairs stood up on my neck at mention of his name...Not a common name... Not many have the name Rudy...but to be the same Rudy this would take me to Northamptonshire as i knew Rudy as a young boy from Wellingborough...Is it the same Rudy, i cannot be certain... Too many factors say that it must be...Rudy,s dad was an elder when Rudy was young, if its the same family... It leaves me wondering if i knew Lacy,s family, mother, father or even stepfather... Back in the late 80,s around 89 a letter was read from the W/T society to the congregation elders worldwide which in part said if a case of c.s.a was brought to our notice we must first notify the branch office which at the time was in London.... The intention at that time was to keep the matter in house... This was the trigger that started my fading... 6 months later i succeeded in my attempt to leave it all behind... I wonder if the location can be confirmed as i would love to know if its the same Rudy Dobson... Not that it really matters a hoot, but it would satisfy my curiosity... Incidentally my second partner in my adult life went through the same as Lacy when she was young.. So i have some experience living with a lady who went through all that Lacy did... I certainly admire Lacy for speaking out as she has done many times which im certain will help others who sadly face or have gone through similar experience... I guess i might never know if i knew this family when they were young back in the days when i lived in the Northamptonshire are...but something tells me i did and especially when the name Rudy Dobson was mentioned...

@TheNutter1997

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I can confirm that it is the same Rudi. I grew up in the Birmingham area so I only knew Rudi when he joined the congregation! Thank you for taking the time to listen to my story x

@Ed30675

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@@TheNutter1997 Wow... Thank you for taking the time to answer my question... I did think it has to be the same Rudy .. I knew the whole Dobson family... Rudy has a German name as his mother was from Germany.... I have watched all the videos where you have featured..You have gone through such a lot in life..I am glad to hear how you are now doing... The you tube thing is crazy as I have come across a few whom I knew when I was an active j.w. If my memory serves me correctly, Rudy had a brother called Karl... Another German name...I also believe they had a sister though my memory can't be certain... One of the children I knew from their birth .. I wish you well, and no doubt I will see you on other you tube videos in due course...and thanks again for answering my question... Now I know that it was the Rudy that I knew, once upon a time...or in my other life..🙋

Ladies, Iam so sorry😢 I can't imagine what you went thru with the abuse. But I do no where you are coming from not talking because you wanted to protect your mom.I grew up in a dysfunctional family and I lived my life even after a adult and felt it was my role to take what was not right and fix it where it never affected my mother. I was around 47 before I realized it was not right. My love, heart, big hug and prayers goes out to you and everyone who grew up with this burden on them.

Sending so much love to you, Lacey♥. I am so glad you found a loving, supportive partner. I hope you have a beautiful life.

Many thanks Lacie, for sharing this horrible experience. It will help many others to also get through their pain. This should also serve as a message to parents, to strongly instill into their children to kick, scream and fight as hard and loud as they can, if anything resembling this starts to occur, and always tell, tell, tell, no matter who the offender, and ALWAYS come forth, to discuss any "off" feelings they may sense of someone. This is NOT right, allowable, nor excusable! Thank you Andrew for giving a passionate ear , as you do, and a place for Lacie to have her voice heard.👏💜💜

The proper name of that cult is the Watchtower Society. Coincidentally I met 2 British JWs in Tagaytay, The Philippines just today. When the 1 guy asked if I knew of the JWs, it was good that I didn't immediately express my disdain and disgust with that bunch, because the 2 guys were otherwise fine guys. For awhile back in Pennsylvania, I shared a house with my high school best friend after I got out of the military. We lived in a rural area & we had a network of people who would call & warn us when the JWs were on the prowl. He worked 12 hour shifts & he knew that if he was on nights, and sleeping, that if he heard Alice Cooper's "Dead Babies" at full blast, that it was time to answer the door in all his 5'5" 260 lb. glory in his briefs & drinking a beer. They stopped coming after just a couple such visits.

Brave lady to speak out

I'm so sorry😭😭😭😭

It's disgusting how these people get away with this horrible crimes.

Research shows that the outcome for the child correlates closely with the reaction of the first person they tell, usually the mother. I.E., if the child is believed, and action is taken.

I lived in a large close family and had lots of extended family.. but i grew up ALONE! I grew up with CA at the hands of my grandfather and then at the hands of my uncle.. both on my mum’s side.. i was left with my grandfather some days alone even though i had siblings.. i found out as an adult that my mother left me with him KNOWING what he was doing because he’d did it to her AND my other 3 aunts when they were children.. she left me with him but sent my sister and brothers to my grandmother so i grew believing it was ME that was bad.. ME that was the problem..I had every issue you would expect growing up because i had NOBODY i could tell.. little did i know that they KNEW what he was probably doing to me.. i only found out last year that my older cousin had also had to deal with him doing this to her.. but the adults ALL KNEW!! My mother called me evil for bringing it up.. telling me I’d kill my grandmother if i talked about it.. so i didn’t.. and still haven’t.. I’m 45. My head is a mess.. i don’t sleep.. i can’t eat. I have children that I’m overprotective of.. it still kills me every day.. every time the nightmares come back. This DESTROYS children!! There is NO recovery from that.. i grew believing my worth is what i look like to men.. nothing more. I’ve tried suicide but failed at that too.. my worth now is my children..i would and will kill anyone i thought even considering going near them.. like my mother should have. Like my aunts should have.. like anyone in that family should have. This happens behind closed doors more than people understand. The amount of people that i know it’s happened to.. its a disease that’s more common than most understand

Wow, her congregation and mother found a manipulator! Sad for this woman (child at the time) that both levels of protection, basically all the adults in her life failed her. I hope she has found a trusting and healthy life now. ❤️

I’m sorry this happened to you. I’m glad you’re healing & educating others from your trauma

I had been with the Jehova Witnesses for some time after a kind witness helped me recover from a rare blood cancer introducing me to organic carrot juice. I went into remission. I became very close to several members but time with them revealed ungodliness and so I cut ties.

Keep spreading and speaking your truth.

Lacie, thank you so much for being so brave and courageous for telling your story. I am so so sorry for what that evil prick and the JW’s did to you 😞 It does seem to be a never ending situation with them. 🤬 I’m glad you got justice that you deem acceptable. I know there is never such a thing as closure as some people like to throw that word around. As you still suffer complex PTSD and are still triggered by things you don’t expect. The paralytic response from your PTSD sounds absolutely scary and terrifying. I’m happy you have a great therapist who’s given you the tools to de-escalate your body’s response at the very first symptom. I’ll be checking out your channel as you speak from the heart and so eloquently. Thank you to both yourself Lacie and Andrew for this interview. Andrew I could tell you would’ve loved to be able to have a go at this filthy mongrel as well as give Lacie a big hug of kindness. 🤗❤️ Funny story. Besides the Watchtower magazine door to door JW deliverers 😂 I’ve only met one other here in Australia. It was when I was working as a Veterinary Nurse and she was learning to be one. She was very nice but it really pissed us all off because due to her religion she couldn’t work Saturdays as that’s their Sabbath. If you can’t do weekends in that job it’s then you can’t do this job. Animals don’t get sick or injured 9-5 Mon-Fri. The bosses got their asses reemed by us and they claimed she didn’t disclose it until after she was hired. Lucky we have probation periods!

The Witness for the prosecution. An inverted concept. The heart becomes a spade.

God bless you dear.

Great interview. I really hope this does help others in the same situation realize they are not alone and findvtge courage to speak up.

SWEET DARLING: YOU FORGET ABOUT THIS EVIL MAN. DO NOT GIVE HIM ONE MORE MOMENT OF YOUR TIME! THANK YOU FOR SPEAKING OUT. ❤❤❤❤ my heart to you! 💔💔💔💔