What add on are you using that has your procs jumping on the screen?

This is overall a stellar video, but I wanted to add a few things missed about Preservation Evoker. 1. Spiritbloom is the main burst healing tool on a 20s cooldown but also serves as a powerful supplement to sustained healing, thanks to the S2 tier bonus (40% of healing as a 4s hot). 2. Dispels - Cauterizing Flame also clears Curses in addition to Bleed, Poisons, and Diseases. It can be combined with Stasis to clear either 3 consecutive single debuffs or clear the entire group's debuffs at once, a severely underrated tool. 3. Utility/Externals - Time Dilation is great for tank or priority target survivability as it staggers the next 10s of incoming damage over another 10 seconds and can a huge but indirect tool for spot healing. Zephyr is a group-wide 20% AOE damage reduction and is a fantastic asset to most encounters. IMO Preservation is the strongest sustained AND burst healer, even over Holy Paladin. The Evoker has an answer for nearly every situation. That said, I agree with the sentiment about Holy Paladin's strength over Preservation. I'm a bit biased as an Evoker main but play most healing specs competently. Again, great video! Huge fan of the move to PvE content.

@mbazoka

Жыл бұрын

If you're telling me that Cauterizing Flame can be spread with Echo, then I will be really mad that I didn't figure that one sooner - otherwise, how the hell do you clear the entire group with Stasis + CF?

@zirken5672

Жыл бұрын

​@@mbazoka If you cast CF on a target with no debuff on them it will not go on cooldown, but it will be rememberd by stasis. So stasis and then CF on 3 different targets and when the debuff goes out on the grop you press it again to remove the debuff from those 3 players. Very niche

@mbazoka

Жыл бұрын

@@zirken5672 This just made Naraxxas 100% easier for my as.s, how did I not know about this...

@dustinmosley95

Жыл бұрын

@@mbazoka Nah, unfortunately echo doesn’t duplicate the dispel part of CF, but it may duplicate the really tiny heal it does. To use Cauterizing Flame on the group, pop stasis and use CF on 3 different allies BEFORE they have a dispellable debuff. Once the whole group gets it, like the poison from the NL worm boss, use Stasis again and it’ll hit the same targets. You can still use it normally as well. Fun fact: if stasis casts your dispel or CF but there’s nothing to remove, then it resets the cooldown. In S1 Algethar Academy, you could triple CF stasis the tank before Crawth’s first bleed. First bleed you use CF normally, then the second you use the triple cast from Stasis which resets the cooldown, and finally cast it regularly the 3rd time.

I don't know if anyone said that already, but as a holy priest, i never had any problem mitigating high damage just by making the following macros: #showtooltip Fade /cast Fade /cast [target=player] Power Word: Shield #showtooltip Desperate Prayer /cast Desperate Prayer /cast Fade /cast [target=player] Power Word: Shield And due to the low cd of "Fade", you pretty much have a strong defensive anytime you need it with these macros.

having played every healer sans paladin this season, agree with the majority of this. Especially agree with MW being a sleeper after picking it up the last few weeks. Mana efficiency is non-existent in heavy ST healing, but its damage potential, ability to regen mana, and sustain healing are all exceptional. It NEEDS a group that are willing to use their defensives and health pots to help with spot healing, making it feel less good in lower keys. (it also needs blizz to buff revival. thats just a mass dispel)

@Zerg777

Жыл бұрын

Pair revival with essence font ant it can be a chunky heal

@robotspartan9100

Жыл бұрын

@@Zerg777 but when sheiluns can do the same amount of healing after a 26s recharge, and more healing if allowed a full 40s, 3 minute revivals feel rather underwhelming, and with the current spikyness of health bars, sheiluns is almost always the better cast

@Zerg777

Жыл бұрын

@@robotspartan9100 i guess im just glad they buffed it from s1 where it really was just a dispel. I agree sheiluns is nuts rly

@mkuhnactual

Жыл бұрын

@@robotspartan9100 I agree with this. I use Shelun's as my big aoe heal. Revival is only used as a MD or a last resort hail mary group heal.

@CrypticElements

Жыл бұрын

@@Zerg777 revival felt super good after the 100% increase in dungeons, then after the 25% change to stam it kinda sucks again.

Been watching Skill Capped's LoL videos for many years now so I'm super hyped you guys are getting into M+. Keep up the good work.

Was waiting from m+ guides from you, great Video!

Where can i get this UI complete? :) from the holy paladin ?

are pallys and evokers that good? i kinda hate how they feel to play. i definitely did notice what you were saying about shamans, they just have a solid kit, but the only time you feel lacking is when theres massive group damage. to be fair i wasnt using cloudburst, like a nubbins, but even with cloudburst, it feels clunky to get a group back up. then again, if shamans could do even that well, then why play anything else? druids feel a little underrated on your list. i just got my druid into catch up gear yesterday. i thought id hate it, but its not bad. i only tried M2, which is like the community college of mythics, so maybe not the best reference, but it never felt as precarious in reckless groups as my shaman in similarly bad gear/low mythic (i was pretty surprised by that).

Very nice explaination

My alt is a mistweaver and it’s nice to see that the score for them really isn’t THAT much lower, but it’s definitely no holy paladin

This feels a little premature with the Hpal rework a week away, especially with beacon nerfs while being named as one of their strengths in the vid

@skillcappedwow

Жыл бұрын

We will be updating any tier lists in response to the patch.

@Wakener00

Жыл бұрын

@@skillcappedwow Word, I look forward to more of the PVE content. Its much appreciated!

Great video. I play hpal, MW, and prevoker. However, I gotta say, i strongly disagree with MW burst healing score. I was very surprised to see, say, hpal burst healing higher than MW.

Curious to see how hpal will be after the 10.1.5 rework

Holy priest is all good. My main alt atm and see no issue at +14-+16 range where generally people take bunch of damage due to lack of dodging avoidable damage. Sometimes its stressful to keep myself alive because being squishy as hell and wacky mobility but its ok anyways. To the damage , trinket Beacon of Beyond is a must to deal atleast ok damage for healer (20-25k at average for me overall) and at aoe situations spamming holy nova helps alot.

Thank you Ezreal, always a pleasure ❤️

Forgot to mention evokers also have Zephyr for aoe damage reduction which is huge for bosses like magmatusk - forge master etc as well as rescue to grab people out of trouble as well as time dilation - even sleepwalk has been op with mobs like the pelters in NL which helps hold out some of that nasty ST dps going out

Love the content, can't wait for the ranged and melee dps videos

@skillcappedwow

Жыл бұрын

Ranged should be releasing later this week!

Mistweaver needs some serious attention in the mana consumption department. They don't have an issue with healing. They have an issue with mana. Mana Tea shouldn't be a mana consumption ability, it should be a mana regen ability and it would fix like 70% of the issues with the class in keys. You have some serious bursting potential with the class and you're scared of pumping because you know clicking Vivify more than 3 times with Enveloping mists means you're OOM. (Exageration) This isn't good class design at all. You also only really focused on Fistweaving builds. Sheilun's Gift can one-shot everyone in the party back to 100% HP if it's at full stacks, so Revival isn't Mistweaver's only tool for group wide heals. It's actually an exceedingly reliable ability on a fairly short cooldown.

How the hell do you only have 1,6k subs??? this channel is awesome

Commenting so that the magical computer program that determines whether or not people see your content sees engagement. But also because this is great content.

I also thing MW is a sleeper MDI healer.. as it is right now it does the most dmg and pretty much thats all that matters for MDI, all healers can handle a 21-22 with ease. The defining factor will be if MDI teams will need a BL from their healer.. If not then MW is the obvious choice

I wish you guys would do mythic plus videos as often as you do pvp videos.

This is the Video I needed

Routes! Already watching a few of your videos some of your pulls are different than the cookie-cutter ones that I Follow from other channels

Evoker needs a caveat that it's only good on fights where people can stay within your pitiful healing range (or in the case of pugs, where your DPS will actually stand so that you can heal the group with your breath). I'd definitely remove several points for Evoker as a pug healer in general, and then extra points if you're trying to play evoker in Uldaman or Neltharus.

@Givinhell876

Жыл бұрын

Shouldn't really be a problem if you position well and use rescue to help yourself out by moving someone close to others. Asking people to be mindful and stay in front of you does miracles tbf.

@freakthegod2362

Жыл бұрын

That’s what echo and temporal Anomaly is for lol

@mkuhnactual

Жыл бұрын

Yeah positioning and range woes are why I dropped the spec after S1. It just wasn't worth fighting the class design, and god forbid you get a hunter in the group, they love standing out in Narnia.

Surprised you guys didn't even mention shields in a disc healing toolkit. They are pretty incredible if you know how to predict damage

@GrimTravels

10 ай бұрын

i know, right? I disc priest mained all the way through wrath. It was so easy shielding and popping hots right after. Then burst heal or penance. Easy Peasy

Thank god the most we run is 20-21s so it doesnt matter we can run it either with our Sham, Holy or my HPal

Which addon puts that many buffs on the party frames at 6:51?

@Roiben_

Жыл бұрын

Im using the addon BigDebuffs there

Radiance has a long cooldown? It’s on a 15 second cd with 2 charges that heals massive and can follow up with atonement

@cristianocucumo4361

Жыл бұрын

And 75% of the time is instant too. Lmfao disc priest is better than rdruid rn. And insanely fun to play.

@cristianocucumo4361

Жыл бұрын

Never have issues playing my disc priest. Also helps when the healer is helping with dps rather than shit dps most healers get to put out.

Are you guys going to do a video on the best dps? ❤

Priest utility is actually insane given that they're the first priest. If there is another priest in the group, 2nd priest brings almost no value, which is crazy because 1st priest utility is almost 10/10 and the second one is like 4/10

Strong video 💪

Love that you guys are getting into M+ 🫶

@bricegardner7815

Жыл бұрын

About freaking time

Is Holy paladin's damage output relatively low? I thought they was higher than most healers, even disc.

@UnlockedWish

Жыл бұрын

Thats why i used to play it but i feel like fw is the new battle healer.

@AMDeZani

Жыл бұрын

Holy Paladin can most easily cast its damaging abilities, because it needs to do so to generate Holy Power, but the actual damage of its abilities is really low. The average Holy Paladin is going to deal more damage than the average [other healer], but that's only because average players aren't pressing their DPS buttons at all. When other healers press their DPS buttons, pretty much all of them do more damage than Holy Paladin.

tbh im kinda shocked about MW utility rating. I mean with ring, para, aoe stun, unlimited snare, incredible high mobility, heal / avoidance buff, 12 sec kick, mystic touch and great priority target dmg with touch of death monk has imo way higher utility than pala, even when they have battle rez because most tanks come with that anyways. Also fw is the most mana efficient healer by far, especially with the near tier set.

@sensaiko

Жыл бұрын

MW will always be underrated

@cake7134

Жыл бұрын

I think not having good externals is where MW suffers currently. We don't have any DR and that kind of utility is very highly prized by top players.

@robotspartan9100

Жыл бұрын

@@cake7134 exactly this. At higher keys DR scales substantially better than absorb shields with a fixed amount, such as monks shield.

@mkuhnactual

Жыл бұрын

In my experience the utility is great, but the current dungeon and healing design hits us with a number of pain points on the healing side of things. Some dungeon and affix weeks feel great, others feel like hell.

Don't forget the vivify cleave for mistweaver! With the talent point that gives you a free and instant vivify every 10 seconds you almost always have that big aoe heal in your back pocket before pressing cooldowns, thanks to vivify affecting all targets with renewing mists.

@becjed1701

Жыл бұрын

It's not a free vivify

@Reelax1

Жыл бұрын

Paring it with any of the teas (thunering or mana) and the 4 piece tier set vivify can really pop in a pinch!

anyone that's played all the healers at high level would know this video is vary bias I disagree with this video I personally think and seen evoker ranked 1 with using ever bloom top the entire group up, retro shaman dps is unmatched and can beat timers by just bring one ranked 2,disc priest using rapture every 2 mins can completely absorb deadly packs 100% by spamming shields for over 200-300k ranked 3 then holy paladin, rank 4 rostro druid, Mistweaver is good but not better then other please take this video with a grain of salt and skill caped defiantly used the "halo" effect when it comes to this video where he showed the public clips of high lvl m+ dungeons but thats all it is the reality is this video stretch the truth about several things and undermined or completely ignored other things.

MW low on burst healing? Are you sure about that? What other healer can do 300k+ with their main heal without any cooldowns? Or fully heal people with 2 instant casts every 20 sec or so? Or fully heal the whole group in one cast every 30-40 sec? Or do sustained 200k++ hps into a priority target at any moment? Granted, you give up a bunch of damage to do so, but it's a build choice. I think that should be taken into consideration though, as you can do either unmatched damage or you can do unmatched spot/burst healing depending on build.

@mkuhnactual

Жыл бұрын

what are you on about? what heal is hitting for 300K withou any cd's? it sure isnt vivify, especially without crit'ing.

@Rattja

Жыл бұрын

@@mkuhnactual Vivify + 2x gust of mist that hits for up to 100k+ certainly does that.

@Robula

Жыл бұрын

@@mkuhnactual Sheilun's Gift can pretty much restore everyone from 20% to full HP. Zen Pulse can crit stupidly high too.

This is wrong. Lmfao. Both shaman and DISC heal a lot easier than rdruid. I’ve been rdruid main since vanilla, and it’s pretty bad when my rdruid sits on the sidelines. Tired of making my pits sweating. Shaman and disc and holy priest all deal a lot more. And evoker? Clunky with rune cooldowns. Pally is just broken, even prot nerf made them chunky still. Guardian getting buffs is just stupid. Rdruid needs a buff again.

Damage: 7/10. Well that changed quickly after this video dropped 😂

I'm utterly stunned by rating mistweaver burst low, for aoe burst there's the unrivaled sheiluns mist, talented into faster charge accrual, it's extraordinarily powerful with heals going as high as 350 to 400k on 5 targets with a very very very fast cast time, secondly revival is an extremely respectable aoe groups heal that is entirely instant and does 2x healing when not in a party, this is also a very powerful mass dispell if necessary. While typing this I also realized that chiji in fae stomp and a stacked blackout kick will heal most of the group for over half their hp, with an instant 40k absorb on the whole party on a 1 minute cooldown, and coocoon is also very strong oh shit button. It's difficult to understand where this idea comes from, i honestly think they are by far the strongest burst healing in all of m+

@dardamaniac6972

Жыл бұрын

except Sheiluns burst healing is kinda lacking in MW. I get what you say but Revival is in a 3 min cd and chiji requires you to hit 3+ targets to really shine. If you are hitting a boss it requires many globals to do the same amount of heal. And as it is now, you need the burst heal mostly on bosses, MW generally shine at packs but they have problems in bossfights

@bryancomer1984

Жыл бұрын

@@dardamaniac6972 mate sheilun gains a charge every 4 seconds, so every 20 is over 120k

@dardamaniac6972

Жыл бұрын

@@bryancomer1984 didnt phrase it right. Except sheiluns gift, burst heal is lackster for MW

@Robula

Жыл бұрын

​@@dardamaniac6972 Uplifted Spirits talent means Revival is

@Waevform

Жыл бұрын

Maybe they just need a choice node that can make life cocoon into a DR because the community loves DRs with how they scale

rough

I think we need to get away from lists as content creators and rather teach players how to maximize their chosen specs.

Comparing cocoon to a power word shield...really...

@damienwyles6515

10 ай бұрын

I mean when cocoon absorbs around 300k damage on a 1.3 min cd and pw:shield can crit absorb for 150k+ on a 6 second cd yeah...

The fact Druid is ranked as high as you ranked them, this video isn’t a good one. Been playing rdruid since vanilla, was running +26 in bfa with corruptions etc, and it’s like sweat city trying to play one now. Constantly throwing up all hots, doesn’t feel smooth or good in the slightest and their utilities aren’t that great. No kicks other than typhoon, the only good utility they have is vortex in certain scenarios. People rating rdruid this high no wonder they aren’t getting the respect they deserve anymore. What a shame. Every group I heal on my rdruid with, deaths, cuz the aoe bursting is too much. Disc priest? Handles just fine, shaman? Does Great too, holy priest? No issue, hpally? Also no issues. It’s heavy burst era right now, only classes that can actually instantly or near instantly heal large amounts of hp are doing okayish. Healing in general right now isn’t the greatest, but let’s get rdruid back to their respective spot please. Tired of having 42% haste 22% mastery just to have the ramp heal small ticks of health bars.

Says MW is bad at burst healing then lists three ways to burst heal. lol. All you have to do is know the damage patterns and rotate abilities. Not hard at all.

@damienwyles6515

10 ай бұрын

Thats the point though, if you already know the patterns and rotate abilities, other healers do it better than mw. No one has said they were bad. Just other classes do it much better in the current state for less effort.

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None, mythic+ is just .... miserable for healers now.