The old version of the video had "Evens" instead of "Evans" all over the place. I knew I'd be roasted in the comments for the next 5 years. So I fixed it, re-rendered it, and reuploaded the video.

@Crep35

2 жыл бұрын

Nice save

@LochNessAnthony

2 жыл бұрын

Roast avoided

@DrummerGrrrl

2 жыл бұрын

Yep. I was very prepared to roast you!!

@PeX218

Жыл бұрын

Hur dur, “Evens”

As always with your videos, it's excellent. Very thorough and clear. Thanks for the hard work.

@65Drums

2 жыл бұрын

Glad you are enjoying the videos, and thanks for being subscribed for so long!

Well deserved 100k subs Justin, and we drummers appreciate your content! Congratulations man!

@65Drums

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks dude! Took like 8 years be we're finally here :)

Hey man I've been watching you for a couple of years and really appreciate your advice . Thank you for your honesty and not being a sellout LOL . Haven't seen any of your videos in a while unfortunately . Sometimes it seems the world starts spinning faster LOL . I did come across this video and when I started watching it , you just aged Me by 10 years lol . It was the feeling you get by watching someone grow up . Now I feel 10 years older , 😁😆😄 glad we're both still around keep up the good work and thanks for your advice along the way . And apparently congratulations on a 100k 👍✌

@65Drums

2 жыл бұрын

Hey welcome back! Yeah I've been making them for about 8 years now, so I do look different if you go all the way back to 2014 and skip forward to now

Thanks for bringing these to our attention. I was looking to quiet my drums down and my neighbors were wishing death upon to since I'm so loud(they're actually very nice people). That being said, it'd be interesting to get some db meter readings and comparison to other kinds of examples(rubber mutes vs standard mesh vs something as simple as filling the kick with pillows).

Great review. Thorough as always!

Excellent video, the method of sound dampening is so cool to see, tablas use a similar style of sound dampening by using a small iron mix in a circle on the top of the drum head to help with the sustain on the note

I built a kit like yours years ago and I’m still playing it today.

Definitely congrats on the 100K!! Nice in depth review Justin!!

6 figures… WOW. So proud of you. You helped me as well as so many others understand electronic drums and given so much. Well deserved!

@65Drums

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Ben!

I like this review and the product. More competition = better choice of products for us.

@65Drums

2 жыл бұрын

I agree, more competition makes for better products

Excellent review as always, I subscribed to your channel years back when you had about 500 subscribers, now you you've hit 100,000 ! Congrats Justin 🥳 🎉 you truly deserve it.

@65Drums

2 жыл бұрын

That's a super long time, 500 subs was back when I was 21 or so. Thanks for watching! :)

Congrats on 100k subs!!! Best e-drum channel on KZread by far!

Wow very informative and straight to the point. Thanks

Thank you for making this video !

I would love to see you put tape on these cymbals to bring down the high pitch! I would also love to see these turned into an electric kit with the roland hats and ride!

Congrats on 100k

@65Drums

2 жыл бұрын

thanks dude!

Ooh, please try the amazon ones too if you can!!

You should try a Db One tom head on the snare. The extra padding could help add some extra weight.

The Zildjian crash sounds so much better than the others!

I used to have that same sonor force 2001 kit- same color and everything

100K subs!! Congrats!!!

@65Drums

2 жыл бұрын

thanks dude!

hey thanks for the very informative review. i got a question i hope you could answer.. i had the l80 and silentstroke combo years ago.. my issue with that was the velocity of the cymbals was higher than the drums. kindI wonder how this set fares in terms of that velocity balance between the cymbals and drums.. i feel like that was the deal breaker with me with my old set up

Justin. Have your tried to use the Evans dB one tom heads for e-drum heads? It looks as though the snare head would have difficulty with triggering, however the toms might work well with shell mounted triggers such as Helensson triggers.

Great video! Can you make a video on the Donner 520?

These cymbals look a heck of a lot similar to the Millenium Still Series... just with a black coating on them. They even sound very similar to me, who has the still series on my practice kit. I would love to see a direct comparison of those...

Thanks for the review. Not a big fan of practicing and learning on my Yamaha DTX and have been thinking of going silent on my acoustic. Is this a better option than learning on the DTX?

I noticed you referenced Extreme Drum trigger at your bass drum. I recently had a conversation with the owner, Marshall, and he was very generious with his time and very helpfull. Unfortunately, I have had a hard time finding any "recent" feedback/reviews on his triggers. Do you have any thoughts or opinions you could share about your experience with Extreme Drum Triggers? Thank you!

I've had Musoo/Batking LV cymbals for almost 3 years now and have had no issues yet. I'm also not using them for bashing out super heavy stuff, at the same time I'm not babying them either. You can get them for $85 - $119 on Amazon right now with a case.

Hey this may be off topic but I’m wondering can you do a tutorial and a review on how to properly install any of the GGD systems on a roland td50? There seems to be very little out there in it

Hi Justin, is it possible to fix my e drum pad if it melts and sticks with the mesh head

What do you think about using a tom skin for the snare? The resonant head thing kinda sounds weird to me over the video and I wonder if just using a regular snare wire/skin and a tom batter would be better?....

Hi justin please can you tell me wich is youre configuration for mesh heads ?

Justin, could you tape evans sound off mufflers in the center of mylar heads. And trigger off the exposed mylar, just use a muffler 2 inches smaller than your drum?

Hey Justin, I was wondering if this solution is indeed fit for an apartment, I live in one which has been recently built, also it’s on route of the airport so the aircraft hover the building at nearly 40m, so the it’s has good acoustic isolation, I was wondering how would this feel on a Sonor AQX Micro, are they really that quiet, like quieter than Alesis DM kits, I had one, and it wasn’t that quiet, what do you think? Thanks in advance @65 Drums

Hi Justin... Could you please tell me if these EVANS drumheads are slippery? I ask you because I have the REMO Silent Stroke drumheads and it bothers me a lot. When I play, the drumsticks slide on the drumheads and produce a noise like a scratch of an LP made by a DJ on a pickup. Do you know what I mean? I would be very grateful if you could answer this question. Jaime from Brazil

Is the video '5 apps, removing drums | stems' still available?

Could you hypothetically use cymbal tuners (or standard mini-magnets) to darken the sound of the cymbals?

I remember watching your conversion to mesh heads and triggers. Did they just work with your module or how did you get them to work together?

Hmmm evans or rtom lv mesh, both single ply 🤔 Justin did you do a vid on convertible percussions that you use ?

Evans or zildjian are the quietest? which one do you recommend?

Would this work for low volume rock band practice in garage.

I love the heads except for the snare head. I'm not a heavy player, yet after about a month of daily use, the snare head had strands of the mylar break-away and dangle inside the drum. Sweetwater replaced it. There's no way to turn off the snare if you want to. As an experiment, I put the 14" tom head (ordered separately) on my snare drum, and it sounds incredible! It's super loud coming through the EAD 10, but that can be adjusted. It's way better than the dB One snare head. The Remo 14" Silent Stroke is better on the snare than the Evans dB One snare head.

I can’t seem to find anyone who has tried a regular 14 inch DB One tom head on a snare, with the snare wires turned on,. I’m just curious how that sounds. Instead of the dedicated DB One snare head.

Hi... It's very refreshing to see research and improvements on this low volume area. I am really sorry for my younger drummer self not having this products 10 years ago, that could had made my drumming life less miserable trying to find where to practice at the full drum volume. The tone difference in the Toms is very noticeable. The only thing that kind of worries me is the underneath foam pealing off over time. I wonder what kind of behavior the mesh will have or if it will be more fragile on hat area where the foam was.

@65Drums

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah that's the downside of a first year review. I don't know if the foam will stay on for 5 years of play. But I assume you can just glue it back on later if it becomes a problem

@ryangorman3061

2 жыл бұрын

The underneath foam is extremely durable and held in place well. Peeling will not be an issue. The heads will wear from play before those materials fail.

evans cymbals IMO work really good for sound in low volume live settings I really like them and have the full set. However the low bell on the hi-hat will create a small issue when setting up

Can i use this for my roland vad 507? The heads

First off, thank you for your tireless pursuit of e drum perfection. Sorting through the ever expanding world of products for e drumming is no small task, and you handle it beautifully. I would like to know if you are aware of Magnatrack's line of triggers and e cymbals. They look very promising.

@65Drums

Жыл бұрын

Thanks man! I know of Magnatrack, and tried their stuff years ago. It broke on me within weeks. So I don't care to review their stuff ever again to be honest

@Weetunet

Жыл бұрын

@@65Drums On the other hand, providing reviews of bad stuff is a valuable service to the community. If a product is bad, reviewing it will help people avoid that product. And, reviewing their newer products would allow you to see whether they have made improvements.

@65Drums

Жыл бұрын

@@Weetunet That's true. But on the other hand, I've experienced the rage of a small business owner saying I'm hurting their small business. So that puts me in a strange position

@Weetunet

Жыл бұрын

@@65Drums Ah, right. That's one side of the business that we the audience don't see..

Great video Justin!!! Love your honesty on the product reviews. BTW, don’t know if you still have one or not, but how do you think using these in conjunction with a Yamaha EAD 10 would work out?

@erikduivenvoorde1475

Жыл бұрын

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Hey Justin, couple lazy guy questions. You think they make the kick head in a 16, and where can I get these? I'd love a 12 snare, 4 toms in 8, and a 16. So before I packed up my DW kit, I bought new heads all the way around. 4 racks, 2 floors, and a 20 gong drum. I play Ahead sticks, and wouldn't ya know it, within a couple days, the tip came off one, and I didn't notice for a whole song. I still had the gong drum head, as I didn't hit it. but yeah.... Fast forward 2 years, and my td17. I modified my pdx's, by cutting the worn mesh out, then using a dremel, to cut the rim in have, so I could put my own heads on them, and not have to pay freakin $60 for a dang 8" head smh.. suck Roland! Anyway, replace all my heads..... and I lost the 2nd stick tip, ever in 5 years using those sticks. Because of course I did! Got 1 of my brand new goedrum heads left smh..

Just got the cymbals and realized that all of the cymbals (crash or not) doesn't have too much of a shimmer to their sound, so they all sounds pretty ride-ish (or kinda like bells in a bell tower) to me But I'm just starting out with drums so not entirely sure about if that's their sound or I'm not hitting hard enough

I really like what they did with the kick and tom heads, but the snare head is not for me. I think I'd rather go with another tom head on the snare so I can have both a snares on and off type sound. I currently use a set of GoEdrum mesh heads on my little 20/10/14/ kit with a 13 snare. I'm curious how the rebound fill compares between the Evans and GoEdrums. For a low volume cymbal sound, I think Zildjian still has the best sounding for crashing and stick definition, but very weak bell sound. I might pick up an 18" so I can have two flavors of an 18" crash and ditch the 16" zildjian on my kit.

Make room on your wall for that KZread silver plaque! Well deserved and I loved you videos on e kits worth buying, super helpful!

@65Drums

2 жыл бұрын

thanks dude! Yeah I'm waiting for youtube to send me the "silver redemption code" so no idea when I'll get it, but I'm excited!

I would really like to hear these with a Yamaha EAD just picking them up acoustically!

@juuhaa1

Жыл бұрын

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These cymbals vs the L80s?

Have you made a video on what you think is the most optimal way to build up an electronic kit.

@65Drums

Жыл бұрын

Well it depends on what you mean by "build up" I've done a really in-depth conversion setup tutorial video. And I've done videos about the best electronic drum upgrades. There's over 500 videos on the channel :)

They look and sound really nice for their purpose, however I am very hesitant to put them on a high end kit, as I am afraid that they might damage the bearing edges of the shells if used for a long period of time (they could possibly sand them down). If the toms and bass drum heads had the outer mylar ring underneath the mesh ply, similarly to the snare head (but without the stripes) I wouldn't hesitate at all. Also, they should offer an 8" version as well.

@kt-nf2jx

Жыл бұрын

how to dm you?

@rippindrummer666

Жыл бұрын

@kt-nf2jx As long as the head isn’t spinning I don’t see how it could sand down the bearing edge

Ty

And it's back... Congrats again on 100k subs, Justin! What would you recommend between the Tama True Touch kick pad and the Evans db One bass drum head for the most realistic feel?

@65Drums

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks man! The Tama for small spaces, Evans if you have room for a full kit and can't play loud.

@Sn00ze

2 жыл бұрын

@@65Drums Awesome, thank you!

If your drums have enough space above the lug.. put a standard single ply head over the top of the Evans head to make it two ply

would these work as good replacement heads for and electronic drum kit like an Alesis or Ddrum or what ever you may have or are they only good for acoustic drums turned electric?

@65Drums

2 жыл бұрын

Not my first choice for electronic drums, but they can for for that situation too

I've had Aborea Mute Cymbals for practicing in my Condo. Not gonna work. Even I'm practicing light jazz swing pattern. The high frequency is killing. I guess my low volume cymbals are having similar properties to these from high-tier brands. Thing is the low freq and vibration from hardware stands and kick pedal is to much for a quiet shared-spaces like aprtment or condo. I'm not profesional drummer. So when I'm back from my work, everyone come home too. Now I'm renting cheapest possible practice room instead. Thanks for the review my man.

has anyone tried to make their own 'practice skins' from regular skins?

Hi Justin, would you say this mesh bass drum head is the least bouncy on the market? The "bouncy feeling" of bassdrum is the mane issue to me when it comes to meshes...

@RcKDrUmm3R

Жыл бұрын

Same here! I have a drum tec real feel and it just doesn’t not feel good in my opinion. I’m considering the drum tec pro heads because they’re closer to being realistic cause they’re a tougher one ply instead of a 3 ply softer fabric like the real feels.

I bought my silent /low volume cymbals through alibaba. Good value for the money and got more cymbals overall, which I liked...bonus is not paying just for the name ya know? Just my $0.02

How do these compare to the Trusound Low Volume heads? In terms of sound? Are the TruSound heads louder, with more tone?

@65Drums

2 жыл бұрын

Trusound is good too, I covered them awhile ago. I think they might be slightly louder, but I haven't done a side by side comparison. I like the Evens a tad more

@izzydutch1690

2 жыл бұрын

@@65Drums Ah right, tnx for the reply! Do you like Evans more in terms of sound or feel?

Hi. I was wondering if you would choose them over drumtech real feel? Thx 😊

@65Drums

2 жыл бұрын

Drumtec is still better, but of course more expensive

@lajeanette33

Жыл бұрын

@@65Drums good to know thx :)

We are trying to find a way to have low stage volume at our church without buying an Electronic Kit, Do you think this would sound good mic'd up?

@65Drums

Жыл бұрын

I showed what it sounds like with mic's in the video a few times. In reality this is a practice tool, and not what I would buy for a church

Where is the link to the cymbal trigger video?

@65Drums

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the heads up, I just pasted the link into the description

Could you please tell me where you're getting three ply mesh heads?

@65Drums

2 жыл бұрын

Drumtec in Germany, Jobeky in the UK, and random no name companies on eBay sell them too. And Roland makes a 3ply 14” mesh head

@Derfen81

2 жыл бұрын

They take a bit of time and money to ship but great heads from drumtec. Except the 6. I just get remo for the 6 toms way better feel there

Does the single-ply mesh head on the snare still have the trampoline effect?

@RcKDrUmm3R

Жыл бұрын

I think sadly yes. You need to go 3 ply or drum tec pro 1 ply that is a harder material

@ScottMartinD

Жыл бұрын

@@RcKDrUmm3R > *"...Harder material"* Harder and "louder"?

@RcKDrUmm3R

Жыл бұрын

@@ScottMartinD yea the pro is def loud. The 3 ply isn’t too loud honestly. They’re good if you went to sacrifice a little rebound for low volume

Hi Justin could u do a review on Centent Wispers pls

@65Drums

2 жыл бұрын

Maybe if I get sent review units at some point

@Dicastdemon

2 жыл бұрын

@@65Drums yes ya may have to talk to China 👀

I've found being dull sounding is just a common characteristic of all Zildjian cymbals, not just those L80s. I bought a 20" K Sweet Crash 2 years ago, and hated it. It was so bland, and lifeless sounding, I immediately took it back. I could go on a tangent for hours about how I dislike Zildjian's products, but I won't 😂

Why did it reupload? also congrats for 100k

@65Drums

2 жыл бұрын

Spelled Evans as Evens in the video 4 times, and the comments wouldn't stop talking about it. So I re-rendered the video with the corrections and uploaded it again

@redsun-ss

2 жыл бұрын

oh ok thanks

Oh you 'spoiled' modern learning drummers. lol I had to put Maxi-pads on my toms amd cymbals to dampen them in the 70s and 80s. (Still a good trick if you need it.) But this set-up rocks. I prefer the brighter 'cymbalesque' sounds while maintaining the low volume. And that snare head design is brilliant, though if I was using this strictly for triggering I think I would try using another tom and use the tom heads. Or possibly throw a dot under the head and over the slats to keep the aforementioned rubbing down (because it will most likely happen.) Another home run Justin. 🤘🥁

I’ve had the zildjian and sabian low volume cymbals and both of them didn’t last me more then a year. They were super fragileI. bought a 6 pack of cymbals on eBay from Japan for $180 and they’re a million times better in every way and are stupid durable. The 4 packs for almost $400 that don’t last even a year vs a 6 pack for $180 that’s already passed the others time.

@alexmote6779

Жыл бұрын

What brand were the cymbals?

Justin do u have contest ground?

@65Drums

2 жыл бұрын

No idea what you’re talking about

@Derfen81

2 жыл бұрын

@@65Drums a guy is impersonating you tried to say I win a drumset and tried to hav me send him shipping money

@Derfen81

2 жыл бұрын

@@65Drums he messaged me on a clone account and said to hit him up on telegram

@Derfen81

2 жыл бұрын

@@65Drums didn’t get me but was close and do t want others hit by him

@65Drums

2 жыл бұрын

​@@Derfen81 It's a youtube wide problem with bot accounts. I've banned like 12 of these scammers, but they just make a new account and get back at it. It's happening to lots of channels at the moment

OMETE HAS THE SAME DEAL FOR $165 AMERICAN

Hey Justin there’s an account trying to pretend to be you that told me I won a drumset and tried to get me to send it money

@Derfen81

2 жыл бұрын

If it was you sorry I didn’t believe but it seemed super scetchy

@65Drums

2 жыл бұрын

It’s not one account, it’s a dozen different accounts pretending to be me. And every time I report or ban one, they just create a new one. It’s a KZread wide problem not just in regards to 65 drums. It’s affecting thousands of channels. It’s bots

@Derfen81

2 жыл бұрын

@@65Drums that is horrible either way as I sensed danger I asked him to explain the triggera v3 and he couldn’t cause he was a fraud lol

@Derfen81

2 жыл бұрын

@@65Drums sorry it happens but still love the channel just hope all ppl can avoid them too