Eurovision: Top 25 Returnees Who Did Better in Their Subsequent Attempts
Happy new year everyone! Today, we will be looking at some Eurovision artists who competed again and did better than their previous attempts.
There are more or less 200 artists who competed at least twice at the song contest. However, this statistic only includes those who competed as a lead artist and returned again as a lead artist or a member of a duo or band. In other words, this excludes those returnees who first became a backing singer and later competed as a lead artist or vice versa.
I adopted the formula of @clarinetmoonesc in calculating the ranking of these entries. I highly recommend watching his videos for more Eurovision statistics.
Enjoy!
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Hello everyone! It seems that there might be a confusion as to why there are returning artists who were not included in this video. I apologize for the confusion. I wrote in the description box that I adopted the formula of ESC Clarinet Moon in ranking these entries; thus, the entries that you see in the video are STATISTICALLY the best returning entries based on their previous attempt. I’ll just be providing a spreadsheet so that you may have a visualization on how I did the math. Again, big thanks to ESC Clarinet Moon for the formula. Here's the spreadsheet link: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1InkwYkahs2XdBrBSfkfe0Ixts4iYUdKoIkxZRWjCWoA/edit?usp=sharing Cheers!
@zebras54
4 ай бұрын
You can add Vicky Leandros with l'Amour est Bleu in 1967 and Après toi 1972 to your spreadsheet
@edthepheurofan
4 ай бұрын
@@zebras54 she’s #39 on the spreadsheet
@kubamatusek2609
4 ай бұрын
How did you get this result in a decimal fraction? E.g. 1st/19-1.0000 and 3rd/16-0.8667?
@zebras54
4 ай бұрын
@@edthepheurofan oh my oh my. Apologies.
@edthepheurofan
4 ай бұрын
@@kubamatusek2609 I adopted ESC Clarinet Moon's formula in calculating these. Basically, a win is 100% and last place is 0%, and the remaining entries are fractionally placed in between. His video in the top countries in Junior Eurovision by average results perfectly explains the formula. I highly recommend to check his videos out.
Interesting how the second attempt more often than not turns more up-beat.
@Beckford4000
4 ай бұрын
unless you're look at Linda Martin and Monika Lynkte, both sent much slower entries during their second, more successful attempt.
@Rash23215
4 ай бұрын
@@Beckford4000 do u not understand the meaning of "more often than not" ???
@balkz7856
4 ай бұрын
@@Beckford4000and Tamara Todevska
You could also include Helena Paparizou. She firstly participated in 2001, as a part of Antique and then she won in 2005. Edit: ok, I've just read the pinned comment! I got it!😊
@rjrball1227
Ай бұрын
2001 she got 3rd that's why
The transition in Sebnem Paker, Doris Dragovic, and Tamara Todevska's parts are so good
This is a very interesting video. Interesting that many of these competed for two different countries. Also funny seeing Peter, Sue and Marc twice. Theyre legends competing 4 times in 4 different languages
If they're still alive, what's left of Peter, Sue and Marc should be internally selected for Switzerland one year as a tribute!
@ohle0810
4 ай бұрын
Jahn teigen is dead
@ariccua6101
8 күн бұрын
With Eurovision heading to Switzerland next year, I can confirm all of them are still alive.
I love Şebnem Paker’s entries so much. Both are genuinely fantastic songs.
Poli did the biggest progress tho considering the difference in competition levels. Top 3 are cases long time ago when there were much less participants and songs were not as different from each other as they're now
Doris Dragovic returned and slayed. Would love her to represent Croatia again
Anna Vissi was also 9th Place 2006 in Athens
@ariccua6101
4 ай бұрын
Yeah, but that's the other way around. She finished 5th for CYP in 1982. But if you're only talking GRE, then that counts.
The amount of control in Mia Martini's voice between her two entries is like night and day
🇨🇾 What a beautiful video! ❤ Thank you! 🙏🏻
How many times you want to represent Switzerland? Peter: Yes Sue: Yes Marc: Yes
@rjrball1227
Ай бұрын
Never won
@ariccua6101
8 күн бұрын
It should be: Peter: Oui Sue: Ja Marc: Si (Just for the sake of SUI's linguistic and ethnic diversity.)
@Wailmur
7 күн бұрын
Peter sues marc
Where’s Linda Martin, Vicky Leandros and Dima Bilan? All winners.
@rjrball1227
Ай бұрын
They got 2nd 4th and 2nd respectively while #1 in the list got 17th on apptmpt 1 and 1st on take 2
Super video!! Can you make a video for those who did worse?
That transition from Trödler und Co. to Io senza te is funny yet epic!
Katja Ebstein is missing in this video. - "Wunder gibt es immer wieder", 1970, 3rd place - "Diese Welt", 1971, 3rd place - "Theater", 1980, 2nd place
@edthepheurofan
4 ай бұрын
Please read the pinned comment. Thanks! ☺️
Joyous
Nice!
@edthepheurofan
4 ай бұрын
Thank you! 🙏
Linda Martin could have been on the list too
@Africkinggod
4 ай бұрын
Yeah but she only moved up 1 spot, but to be fair that 1 spot did give her the win😅
Cool! 👍 Why is Sunstroke's project "Hey mamma" blurred? 😏
@Beckford4000
4 ай бұрын
Copyright. That's pretty obvious, anyone who's been on KZread longer than 6 months could figure that out.
@Rash23215
4 ай бұрын
@@Beckford4000 op joined 17 years ago.....
Love the vid...but no Vicky Leandros? apologies ive just seen the above comment 😊
Can you make the same video with artists woh did better in their first attempt?
Elisabeth Andreassen was in Bobbysocks! ? That means she was my winner twice, since Norway took the first place in my top in both 1985 and 1996. Tamara Todevska was right for coming back since she was my winner in 2019. Hot Eyes were my winners in 1984. Both Poli Genova's songs were my winners.
Always remember son you are vengeance -hamilcar
Vicky Leandros Participated in 1967 And he won in 1972 I missed her
Where is Kikki Danielsson from chips with Elisabeth Andreassen 1982. In 1985 she came 3
@edthepheurofan
4 ай бұрын
Based on my calculations, courtesy of the formula made by ESC Clarinet Moon (you can check out his videos for more ESC stats), Kikki ranked 27th. The video only featured the 25 entries so that explains it. 😊
@allasmyssanify
4 ай бұрын
Where is Carola? 1983 - 3. 1991- victory.
What about Udo Jurgens of Austria? He competed 3 years in a row and improved each time. 6th in 1964 4th in 1965 1st in 1966
@Beckford4000
4 ай бұрын
There's a lot he's missed out here (e.g. numerous people who won on their second attempt, e.g. Carola, Linda Martin, Dima Bilan, not just Udo).
@Beckford4000
4 ай бұрын
Valentina Monetta also competed three times, improving each time.
@arvinroidoatienza7082
4 ай бұрын
He didn't made the top 25
@arvinroidoatienza7082
4 ай бұрын
@@Beckford4000they didn't make the top 25
@arvinroidoatienza7082
4 ай бұрын
@@Beckford4000she didn't maje the top 25
5here needs to be another video as a few were missing
I usually find that the second attempt does worse, but there’s a lot of these!
I loved Na Inat so much
How did Peter, Sue and Marc make the list twice😂
You should do a top 50 🥹🥹🥹
I'm surprised to see so many artists representing different countries.
6:24 best rinoplastic surgery ever
It’s just abit of fun but you’d think a formula would put actual winners in the top ten. Carola for Sweden, Helena Paparizou for Greece and Dima Bilan for Russia - all came back for another attempt and won.
How come Peter, Sue & Marc are in it at 1:46 and then again with another 2 songs at 10:06, all for Switzerland ?!
Mia❤
Chiara from Malta could be there too, as she was first number 3 and later 2 :)
Is there a part 2 to this??
@edthepheurofan
4 ай бұрын
Unfortunately, no, since the video only features the 25 entries who statistically did better than their previous attempts. You can, however, check the pinned comment and click the spreadsheet link to see all returning artists who did better in their subsequent attempts.
Where is Stella Maesen? She participated with her sisters as Hearts of Soul for the Netherlands in 1970, then for Belgium in Dream Express (for the Flemish television) and then as Stella with Si tu aimes ma musique for Belgium for the French television...
Going from 2to 1 like Dima is more iconic. Or 1 to 1 like Loreen
This is good, but where is Dima Bolan, who will 2th place in 2006 and winner in 2008?
How is no one commenting that Lys Assia won the 1st Eurovision, so that cant be included as she won the first time, and i feel like the two enteys that combined into La Det Swing could have been combined, as in the didnt need two separate spots on the list
Hanne Krogh is almost a last to first story
Chiara did better in 2005 (2nd) than she did in 1998 (3rd) when she represented Malta. :)
What about Linda Martin???? 2nd to Diggy Looo and 1st in 1992????
I don't understand how Karolina is higher than Tamara when Tamara had a much higher jump from a lower place to a higher place
@MINH-rk2iv
4 ай бұрын
Read the pinned comment plz
4:49 a sweedish duo representing norway i remember a norwegan duo representing sewden
Pending on how you see the score for CRO99 since they country got a 33% deduction due to male voices on backing tape without male on stage I wonder if Doris really did better???
@edthepheurofan
4 ай бұрын
Merit-wise, yes. For relegation system, no.
shouldn't monika lynkite be in here too?
and where is Loreen, she also won twice, one in 2011 and the other in 2023
didn't you forget Helena Paparizou?
Doris ❤
Where is Joksimovic? Also it's criminal how Run away was 22nd in 2010.
@bobekspekiel9890
4 ай бұрын
Technically Joksimovič gained worse result after his return (2nd in 2004 and 3rd in 2012)
You absolutely forgot Linda Martin
Where is Darja Švajger for Slovenia?
@bobekspekiel9890
4 ай бұрын
She was 7th in 1995 and 11th in 1999 so obviously it’s such a downgrade.
Donny Montell (Lithuania) 14th -> 9th, Monika Lynkte (Lithuania) 18th -> 11th, Marco Mengoni (Italy) 7th ->4th. You could also include Carola, Dima Bilan & Linda Martin who won on their second attempts. Constantinos Christoforou (Cyprus) 9th (solo) -> 6th (as part of One). How did you include Senhit, but not 2 other San Marino artists, Valentina Monetta (14th in SF -> 24th in the final) and Serhat (12th in SF -> 19th in the final). Maybe not as dramatic an improvement, but still they did much better with their subsequent attempts. How you can include Lys Asia, who everyone knows won the first contest, yet exclude these entrants, I don't know.
@edthepheurofan
4 ай бұрын
As the title of the video suggests, I only included the top 25 entries who did better. I know there are A LOT of artists who returned and did better than their previous attempts, 85 entries to be specific, but again, I only made a video specifically highlighting the top 25 entries who statistically did better. You can check out the pinned comment if you want.
What about Corry Brokken? NC in 1956 and winning in 1957
@Wailmur
7 күн бұрын
We don't know about her result in 1956 and thus it's obviously impossible to make out any data at all
@hayo919
6 күн бұрын
@@Wailmur That's why I zaid NC for Not Classified
@Wailmur
6 күн бұрын
@@hayo919 Yeah, at thus she shouldn't be here
@hayo919
6 күн бұрын
@@Wailmur Well, going from NC to 1st is an improvement though. And we know she didn't win in '56 so she must have improved her result when she returned
Where is Marion Rung? Tipitii 1962 7 place and Tom Tom Tom 1973 6 place!
@edthepheurofan
4 ай бұрын
Please read the pinned comment. Thanks! ☺️
Where’s Linda Martin? 1984 2nd 1992 1st
Sorry but you have not all here. Vicky Leandros 1967 4th and 1972 1st. Carola Häggqvist 1983 3rd 1991 1st. Marion Rung 1962 7th 1973 6th. Fredi 1967 12th 1976 11th. And Lys Assia was 1st 1956..Second time 8th and third time second. So She not be In this list...
Dima Bilan finished 2nd in 2006 and won in 2008
Akula-Кiслотний DJ(never qualified)
And dima bilan?
@memandi2
4 ай бұрын
Read the pinned post
Sanja Vucic?
@edthepheurofan
4 ай бұрын
Please read the pinned comment. Thanks! ☺️
Dima bilan with Russia Elena paparizou greece
Dima Bilan. Why not?
@edthepheurofan
4 ай бұрын
Please read the pinned comment. Thanks! ☺️
Poli Genova 2nd is the best
Wow no Katja Ebstein and no Udo Jürgens who actually did a perfect triple.. 😮
@jmkvelden
4 ай бұрын
Thought the same thing...
Where is AUSTRIA
@edthepheurofan
4 ай бұрын
Please read the pinned comment. Thanks! ☺️
For real I expected and Dima Bilan here