European Motorcycles are BETTER than Japanese Bikes (here's why)
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@yammienoob8 ай бұрын
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@dr.tadashizhang7719
8 ай бұрын
Can you also win when you live germany
@captainwin6333
8 ай бұрын
@@dr.tadashizhang7719 Sorry, if you live in Germany you've already lost. Well, that's what the Dutch say anyway. lol
@akshaibhagyanath2483
8 ай бұрын
Send one to india
@leftlifegolfsaga9105
8 ай бұрын
I’m English but live in the excellent road networks and conditions in the French countryside. Though I digress. In response to your comment - did you see the new maintenance schedules for Dukes these days? Ducati have upped their game big time.
@shashibhushan-wd4fl
7 ай бұрын
@yammienoob all beginner bikes are designed and made in India And mostly by Bajaj
@nereus2468 ай бұрын
As a European specifically German. I disagree. Yes we have the greatest engineers in my opinion but only when it comes to pure numbers and mechanical technology but the biggest problem is that we look at the short term best engine instead of the longevity. They don’t last as long because they are too complicated in design nowadays. I’m talking for German engineers specifically.
@lashachakhunashvili1399
8 ай бұрын
BMW vs Honda?
@rickeco4tango33
8 ай бұрын
Yes sir, I work @ a auto shop and German cars are much nicer and handle better, but cost much more in price and maintenance
@narendrapanse7844
8 ай бұрын
agree.
@Ghosy01
8 ай бұрын
yep no german car is desgined to go further than 100 km from a service centre. whenw as the last time a toyota car broke down ?>
@MarkWucher
8 ай бұрын
Why use 2 parts when you can use 5?
@horrovac8 ай бұрын
European here. With all my local patriotism, allow me to politely interject: bollocks! The Japanese are the masters. Of course the Eurobikes are "better" - they cost more. They are all "premium", whereas the Japanese cover the entire bandwidth of the market. Pay a Japanese manufacturer as much as you would for a Ducati or a BMW (let alone Harley Davidson), you'd get a gem of a motorcycle. The Japanese - the Asians in general - are very good at selling you exactly what you're willing to pay for. Cheap Chinese wares are crap because you wanted to buy cheap Chinese crap, and the Chinese will gladly sell it to you. Japanese vehicles are affordable and reliable because that's what you wanted from a Japanese vehicle. Do you know why we are making premium European motorcycles and cars? Because we incapable to make Japanese ones.
@TheSilviu8x
8 ай бұрын
I like my cines/euro crap bike, nobody wants to steal it!
@mandrakejake
8 ай бұрын
@@TheSilviu8xmy bikes so ugly a thief would be embarrassed to steal it 😂
@leopardpro2878
8 ай бұрын
100% spot on! This is the exact correct answer
@chadkline4268
8 ай бұрын
No, disagree. The engineering and quality of the BMW bikes and components I've had are far superior to the Japanese bikes I've had. I mean, I agree with you in part, but you get what you pay for with a BMW. Some people value precision and quality and clean designs that include maintenance+longevity in their engineering+materials+design. All too often, I'm working on a Japanese bike and muttering to myself: why the hell did they design it like this, why didn't they use a better alloy here, why is this so difficult to access?
@horrovac
6 ай бұрын
@@chadkline4268 well, this is precisely my point? You can't really disagree and then go on to say exactly what I'm saying. You do get what you pay for with a BMW - but you have to pay for that. Of course they have better materials, bespoke designs and high-value components, because they're expensive. But that doesn't require a lot of engineering skill. Slap some Brembo brakes on, WP or Öhlins suspension bits, good tyres. If you need an attachment point on transmission or engine, you design a new casing. You'll get paid, because it's a premium product and people will pay for that. However, Hondas for example are notoriously reliable. At any case they're not worse than a BMW. The rest of the Japanese big four are also quite reliable, not worse than European manufacturers (and in some cases, *much* better). Servicing a Ducati will cost you an arm and a leg when the valvetrain service is due. BMWs aren't exactly a bargain to service either. The Japanese bikes are cheap to buy, cheap to own and won't let you down. Now that takes some engineering. They didn't use a better alloy because it would be expensive. Stuff is difficult to access because they are reusing designs and keeping the cost down. Simplify the design wherever possible. Reduce the number of parts. I admire that - especially if the end result works just as well or even better than the expensive stuff. I know I'm weird, but I think that a Citroën 2CV, or a ridiculously cheap, small modern car is much more interesting than a Rolls-Royce or a Mercedes. With enough time and money, any idiot can design that - but you must really know your stuff to design a 2-cylinder motor with a single coil and without a distribution cap to save production cost.
@KarlBuckley-bw3vc8 ай бұрын
I love the premium feel of my Ducati Streetfighter V4S. My previous bike was a Yamaha FZ09, which was a fun bike, but didn't make me smile the way the Ducati does. Then again the Streetfighter did cost me 3x the price of the Yamaha and the service costs are 2x-3x which is no joke.
@phliuy
8 ай бұрын
It also has about 70 more HP than the FZ09. It probably makes you smile more than a Ducati monster too
@trevorbye6965
8 ай бұрын
I just got a streetfighter v4s a week ago as well, it’s the best feeling bike i’ve ever ridden in my life. previous bike was a 2017 gsxr 1000r and yea it was fast, but it felt like a boat. The streetfighter is faster and feels about 100lbs lighter even though it’s nearly the same weight. geometry, suspension, light wheels and how the bike is engineered makes such a massive difference in the handling. it really is unbelievable how much the bike feels like a 600 with how flickable it is (handlebars def help too) the S model was expensive af but man that dynamic Ohlins and forged wheels are so worth it.
@AVI.D
8 ай бұрын
@@trevorbye6965 remember when Revzilla had a v4s go slower than an 05 gixxer?
@dhruvd89538 ай бұрын
Japanese ethos doesn’t believe that consumer conveniences should be limited to a particular section of society. That’s why they’re so hell focused on reliability, longevity, accessibility, and quality control, which are intrinsically linked to their philosophy of Obitouri, which you can read about, rather than “look-I-am-the-big-daddy-syndrome”. European manufacturers , in fact the entire western manufacturing, don’t believe in anything as such. They’re good in giving you boners, but they can’t be trusted. A Ducati is your $2000 per hour escort from moonlight bunny ranch, where as a KLR 650 is your perfect house wife. Which one would you choose depends on what you believe in.
@adrianzingre9875
8 ай бұрын
You say they dont care about "im the big daddy"... explain the H2R then 💀
@unknownps
8 ай бұрын
every house wife has a little black dress in the wardrobe
@syiqayd
8 ай бұрын
thats a reliable big daddy then XD@@adrianzingre9875
@seanhayes6097
8 ай бұрын
Well said bro! I'm a Gixer man, though most Jap bikes offer better value, reliability etc for your bucks than the Euro machines!
@richloves46
8 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@vtxfan8 ай бұрын
Yeah the Duc and Ape are sweet bikes no doubt. I just wouldn’t like the maintenance schedules. I’d rather spend all the time they’d be in the shop , actually riding my boring Japanese bikes.
@lcsper
8 ай бұрын
But what about the flex factor, curb appeal and bonus heartache when a screw comes loose and they charge you 100 usd for a replacement?
@colordazed
8 ай бұрын
20th century reasoning.
@cr0p_dustin
8 ай бұрын
What he said. Plus... I honestly don't agree with the styling points. That's so subjective. I think a lot of ducattis look very boring and lifeless, and aprillias are hideous with their giant logo plastered all over it.
@rogerp4612
8 ай бұрын
Cmon, having your bike in shop being fussed over by Euro repair shop is way more fun than actually riding it. 😅
@luddite6239
8 ай бұрын
Really? Kawasaki ZX10R: oil change every 7.5k miles; valve check every 15k. Ducati Panigale V4: oil change every 7.5k miles; valve check every 15k. Sounds pretty similar to me and, given the money. I know which I'd rather have - ciao! 🏍️
@sksinha18 ай бұрын
2002 Yamaha R1 with 127k+ miles and still runs like a champ with minimal repair costs in its 20+ years and still puts a huge smile on my face! No Euro can do that.
@Tiag_90
8 ай бұрын
how about those GS 1200 with 200k km on them, or the ktm's with the same? you can find plenty of those used
@TheVelasquez87
8 ай бұрын
Boxer engine can also match that
@Angel-fz8dr
7 ай бұрын
@@Tiag_90 comparing supersport bike with adventure bike is foolish to say the least
@everettbranscom6536
7 ай бұрын
@@Tiag_90high mileage KtMs are like bigfoot, everybody has heard about one but you never got to see one for yourself. Only lame stories and a blurry pic for proof.
@nokshidongotdeleted8 ай бұрын
Just the fact we are comparing a whole continent with a single country thats just a small island means the Japenese are beasts. I owned MT-15 as a beginner then moved to MT-07 and I don't think I'm ever gonna want another bike.
@sliglusamelius8578
8 ай бұрын
How do you like the MT 07? Is it powerful enough for you?
@nokshidongotdeleted
8 ай бұрын
@@sliglusamelius8578 I'd say the MT-07 is the most perfect street bike for me. I have never felt like I was lacking power. And, it's torque is real good. I am not a tall guy so it's really perfect for my size. Unlike tall people who can make the bike look small, it looks perfect and I love its designs with some mods I have installed. It gives a pretty good mileage and over the time, I have learned to do small maintenances myself. I have also made a custom saddle stay for my MT-07 and I can just put it on my bike, put on the bags then go for some touring. In one word, the MT-07 has been a fun bike for me.
@behalsingh1290
8 ай бұрын
Yes even though Japanese entered in the game few years later then euros.
@AVI.D
8 ай бұрын
@@sliglusamelius8578 It depends on what you want from a bike, doing highway pulls a literbike will eventually feel slow, going around a go kart track or a twisty road 30 hp can be more than enough for most riders
@usmanejazz47978 ай бұрын
As someone who loves euro bikes, i can say this video is severely bs, not because he's lying but because how yammie is ignoring all the good things about a japanese bike that they are known for a continuesly making them sound alot inferior even tho they aren't. This video was only made to bait the euro bike lovers. He mever highlighted the cosy, maintenance, durability factor and if he did, the video would be title 'why japanese bikes are better..."
@dadwillfixit
5 ай бұрын
I think this video was made to bait the japanese bike lovers and it worked.
@SP_Cbr8 ай бұрын
Yammie Noob, I sure hope your making the "Why Japanese bikes are BETTER than European bikes" video soon".
@TheSunMoon
8 ай бұрын
Won't be long; a lot of the videos with these titles bait people to watch, increasing viewership
@GeorgeTelop
8 ай бұрын
He already made plenty of vids for affordable easy to own and maintain bikes. He always praising their reliability, enough with the crying everytime he mentions european bikes
@ontopent8 ай бұрын
Bought a Ducati thinking it wouldn’t be a problem, the parts hard to get and repairs cost ultimately became a problem,
@defender714
8 ай бұрын
absolutely.
@JesusAlbertoPinto
8 ай бұрын
The two small lateral fairings for a 07’ Hypermotard = 1000£ No carbon fiber, nothing fancy. Just plastic… Yeah, better…
@JohnBrown-vn2qw
8 ай бұрын
all i can say about ducati is they look good
@GeorgeTelop8 ай бұрын
Depends.. if your budget is limited, Japanese is the only way. Doesn't matter how exciting a euro bike is if you can't afford the bills
@captainwin6333
8 ай бұрын
But they can obviously or they wouldn't buy them.
@GodofWhoopass
8 ай бұрын
How? A new MV Agusta F3 or DUcati V2 is $17k, a new Gixxer 1000 is $15k it's only a couple thousand more.
@eomersimbajon2938
8 ай бұрын
@@GodofWhoopassoh yeah definitely, it's only just a couple hundred thousand more in other countries, just get the much better and expensive one
@voidboi736
8 ай бұрын
@@GodofWhoopassDude compare V4 or 4 cylinder prices to Gixxer, then we'll talk about prices.
@yurionabike99
8 ай бұрын
@@GodofWhoopassnow how much is a simple oil change?
@sksinha18 ай бұрын
In the 4 months that I owned my only Ducati, it quickly lost its “charm” after the almost $4k I had to spend on repairs. Went back to Japanese and never looked back.
@Poupa1138 ай бұрын
The fact that we compare a whole condinent with a single country says all the story here. Japan brands may not be the most innovative and creative ones but they did motorcycles to be available for every one. Reliability=engineering quality
@SansSentiments
4 ай бұрын
truth be told, its Germany/Italy against Japan. noone else in europe actually still builds bikes in europe afaik.
@rns6889
3 ай бұрын
Not the most innovative? They dominated the market and racetracks for a reason back then. But absolutely true, they make everything, the boring, the amazing, the crazy, the do it all.. I think it's the bias because euro bikes are made less, and they don't make budget friendly ones. But when they do actually try to make ones that they don't make to be budget friendly they deliver of course. The only part where you can say that is absolutely true about japanese makers is the corporatism, though you can just filter out the ones that they didn't have much passion in.. It's quite obvious that the new hornet cb line is not really much cared for 💀. But the cb1000r though, just look at it lol.
@icavalcanti8 ай бұрын
In Brazil, Eurobikes lack durability. They can’t stand our heat and roads, whereas Japanese ones own it. Also, it’s a shame European motorcycles do not invest in inline 4, which, let’s be honest, present the best motor sound possible. Last but not least, their tech features don’t justify the above the average price tag.
@canerguener8664
Ай бұрын
Try Ducati,Triumph with good maintenance
@kupalisky35538 ай бұрын
Higher end Japanese bikes are on par with the Europeans imo. It’s just that the Japanese manufacturers offer a lot more budget and mid market bikes that don’t quite have the quality as euro bikes
@fqeagles21
8 ай бұрын
They are not on pare anymore,some years ago they clearly were superiore but not anymore
@hexagonosaurus5848
8 ай бұрын
Out of 8 sport bikes I had, the only one that burned oil was a Honda SC59 and the only gearbox that had a problem was on a K2 gixxer. 675 Daytona is the best built sport bike.
@fqeagles21
8 ай бұрын
@@DragonNinjaHayabusa98 One bike and literally the only Bike in that class
@Navieri
8 ай бұрын
@@DragonNinjaHayabusa98it is only better in a straight line. It is inferior in every other scenario. Also the maintainance on an H2 is still expensive, on par with European bikes, due to the caliber of motorcycle it is. I own an H2 and a V4S Panigale
@GregLanz8 ай бұрын
Not sure how bikes that spend as much time in the shop or waiting for parts could possibly be considered higher quality? I consider reliability paramount as I don't have a dedicated personal mechanic with a container full or parts or 10 spare bikes to balance out the ones waiting for repairs
@philippebartoli4228 ай бұрын
Japanese motorbike are reliable .
@supermac52418 ай бұрын
Servicing price is too high. Parts are harder to get.
@YacolJ8 ай бұрын
Great episode. I own an old 98 Ducati ST2, and a 2015 Gxs S750. They are night and day as far as temperament and ease to ride. The GsxS is exactly what you'd expect from an inline four Japanese bike. It's fast when it gets past 6000 rpm, it shifts smooth, easy maintenance and a dream to daily drive especially around town. The Ducati is polar opposite. It has a dry clutch which is loud and rowdy. The clutch is on or off, no in between. It's wild like a bronco that's nice enough to let you ride it. You must rev match the Ducati or the rear end bounces because of high compression in the motor. In other words no engine braking. It has a deep voice. It sounds like an old muscle car. It's fun to ride also, just more demanding.
@user-sq5dc6og6u8 ай бұрын
I only agree to the fact that italian bike look good but for my own experience i will never buy again a duc. I had a hypermotard 2014 new. this bike just gave me headache. Electrical problem that never ducati has been able to find. And few times i was waiting in the waiting room i was asking the guys what’s wrong with your duc and many times i heard the same. Electrical problems….. So i never took this bike for a big trip because i never know when she will accept to restart or not….. and i had a R1 2016 new. I never had one problem. This bike was the best bike i ever have.
@test234128 ай бұрын
Buying a new bike is stupid. Period.
@sidpomy
8 ай бұрын
That depends. If it's your first or maybe second bike, sure it's usually better to go used. But one you fully intend on keeping until it dies? I'd rather have one that I know I was in control for every mile put on the mechanics of the bike.
@test23412
8 ай бұрын
@sidopomy I would agree, but its 2023. Do you know what I mean? Things are build differently than they used to.
@alexpunisher4654
8 ай бұрын
Why ?) I bought new MT 07 and just ride without problems
@dustclouds8 ай бұрын
The only reason why Ducati's utilize Desmodromic architecture is because they still haven't managed to make decent quality springs 😂 Google Ducati gear shifter return springs issues
@RollWithSoul3178 ай бұрын
Question: Where is the European DCT? Is that not a Japanese invention and innovation?!?
@hunterl7588
7 ай бұрын
Where’s the Japanese dct besides the showroom? Very few people buy those.
@RollWithSoul317
7 ай бұрын
@@hunterl7588 The main reason a lot of people opt for the DCT is that they may have a physical impairment or disability that prevents them from using a shift lever or clutch. Also, older riders choose them after decades of using a manual transmission! But as I look around on various KZread channels, younger riders are loving their Honda Rebel 1100 DCT and the Goldwing DCT’s are extremely popular! More so, the Goldwing DCT!!! Check out the market sales analysis for those bikes and your questions should be answered! I research before I comment. 👍
@NoSeenMail8 ай бұрын
I am that person who will choose tools over jewelry. I am user. And that brings me to Suzuki over and over. :-)
@juhaszl19978 ай бұрын
Hi guys. Is there a quote "Every trip is a wasted trip if you don't get home (safe)." or something similarly?
@zlyable8 ай бұрын
6 countries vs 1 20+ manufacturers vs 4 Tells you all you need to know 😂
@VJ_7678 ай бұрын
European bikes are may be good but when it comes to reliability and longevity no one come to close to Japanese bikes and accessibility to every rider.
@robreynolds7218 ай бұрын
What did you just say?
@AssenGsxr8 ай бұрын
Ima say this if limited hp is in play the R1 is no doubt the best corner machine on track Ducati is hp king and it shows but turning I’ll take R1 all day period
@michaeloparah54388 ай бұрын
I'm a former R6 owner. I always lusted after the Eurobikes but stayed away because of reliability and dealer network issues. Those issues are much less prominent these days, so much so that I currently own a Ducati Multi V4S and Aprilia Tuono V4.
@Mrscoutification8 ай бұрын
Reject stats, embrace the ninja 250. The chadest of all bikes
@ArielitoSalsa8 ай бұрын
I’ve been riding since 1980. I 100% disagree. I’ve ridden them all.
@OswaldMoreno8 ай бұрын
for years Yammie noob wanted to let his euro simp come free and now he finally did.
@photonz18128 ай бұрын
Euro bikes are too expensive to maintain unless you are from Europe. BMW is probably a mild exception here. The Japanese bikes are more reliable, just as fun, more practical, and less likely to cost you your months pay to repair if they do fail.
@elcookiemonsteru
8 ай бұрын
Nah, still cheaper to maintain a Japanese bike than an European here in Finland.
@lingtc88438 ай бұрын
If you could afford to purchase and maintain euro bikes, then by all means, you do you. Japanese bikes are meant to be more accessible to as many riders as possible. It all depends on the size of your pocket. I don't mind owning a BMW R1200GS; if I could afford the price and upkeep. But my very limited budget is more confines me to a "simple" Versys 650. Not the best bike but it is reliable and will not put a big dent in my pocket when comes to maintenance.
@AlmightyRodga8 ай бұрын
Yamaha MT 07 is the best middle weight naked bike.. Admit it
@giovanhagar8 ай бұрын
My cousin has over 200,000 miles on a Kawasaki Vulcan. My first bike was European, a Norton Command. It leaked oil at the tachometer drive and primary chain case, brakes were almost worthless, and it blew a head gasket after 9000 miles.
@Next2Null8 ай бұрын
Me with a Chinese CFMoto: 👁️👄👁️
@j4s0n398 ай бұрын
I loved my BMW K 1300 S, but after leaving it in pieces on the freeway, I tried a Ducati Supersport 939. It was absolute crap. It felt like there was an oven under the seat. The mirrors vibrated so badly that they were useless. And it would routinely hit false neutrals when using the autoshifter. If BMW had made a bike like the R 1200 RS with the K 1300 engine, I'd have purchased one. But they discontinued the inline 4 Ks for more boxers, and the boxer twin is annoying. A year ago, I was finally able to find a Ninja 1000 SX to test ride, and I drove it home the same day. It's smooth, quick, and comfortable. For what I want out of a bike, there isn't even a European option today.
@TimStJohn-xp8rv8 ай бұрын
I agree! And the only bike I desire outside of Ducati or Aprilia is the Fireblade!
@paulmakinson19658 ай бұрын
When I was young, I loved my Ducati 851 Super Sport, just like my Italian girlfriend, just sweet and beautiful when everything was fine. But she was unpredictable, temperamental, complicated, high maintenance. She required expensive restaurants and a dozen roses. My KTM riding friend says the same. Now I settle for less passion and more peace of mind. I ride a good old 4 cylinder Honda.
@Amory988 ай бұрын
Good to know they exist. For my own with mine own money, I'd still get the Japanese. Almost the same performance, not nearly the same maintenance. There's a reason why we see old gixxers and Busas made into all kinds of things like dirt bikes or turbo bikes and European bikes find a museum shelf.
@DIYmotorcycle8 ай бұрын
They're really great bikes when you can work on them yourselve and you're not dependent on a shop or a dealership.
@PRAVEENKUMAR-si5bx8 ай бұрын
I am not going to tracks, as being a normal people who cruises and having fun, i will surely consider reliability(Japanese) over the minimal hype power(europeans)
@Vladimirshigeo8 ай бұрын
The motorcycle community of Reddit have answered, majority rule yammie as the most wrong motorcycle KZreadr 😂
@PeculiarSkeptic8 ай бұрын
People take these videos so seriously when it’s clearly tongue in cheek. The Japanese make amazing bikes at every point on the range, if price is completely ignored there are a lot of options in Europe that are best in their category but none by a massive margin and it’s incredibly subjective as soon as you bring price in. If you feel the need to get offended one way or another (or argue in extremes/ absolutes) about which is “better” you need to work on your fragility, it ain’t that deep.
@choppergirl8 ай бұрын
Sorry, you can't beat a Japanese Classic Honda Rebel 🏍 the spoked wheel version that was made for 30 years 1985-2016 in the metric that matters to me most. Hint: It's not speed, it's not power, it's not looks....
@doublemeat87998 ай бұрын
For my money the Yamaha MT series of bikes are still better bang for your buck and more reliable. I'm still riding my FZ07 and love it. I'd love to have a Superduke or Streetfighter but can't pull the trigger on that purchase when the MT09 exists.
@gelley468 ай бұрын
You know what they say about Euro bikes? You're either riding them or fixing them. Really it's just a matter of taste and $$$. And yeah the Italians really know how to build an exotic looking bikes that sound incredible. They really are beautiful and a work of art. But I'll keep my zx14r thank you.
@Gofr58 ай бұрын
I started with a Japanese bike as my first bike, have since been all Euro. Started with the CBR500R (it's not THAT bad, c'mon guys) and then moved to a 701 Supermoto and as of a month ago moved on to the KTM 1290 Super Adventure S, just in time for the winter season. lol I love Japanese bikes and in fact did almost go back to Japanese when looking to upgrade from my 701, but that 1290 was just something I had to have and experience. So again I say, c'mon, ADV bikes are great! Loving mine even though I only got 3 rides on it before being put away for winter. Spring is gonna be exciting!!!
@SongJLikes8 ай бұрын
Went from a Honda to an Aprilia, and I have ZERO regrets.
@rocketrollsvlogs76258 ай бұрын
For somebody who buys a new bike every year, euro is cool. For someone for whom a bike is one of their most significant fun investments and they plan to ride through 3 or 4 sets of brake pads... Japanese please.
@ionutgeanta87418 ай бұрын
that triumph scrambler!! juicy! 😍😍
@gustavofara71168 ай бұрын
So you’re basically saying everything is better than US bikes….?
@kuzotenuh60628 ай бұрын
When you got money, you start loving a european motorcycle. And they know exactly whom to sell their motorcycle.
@anthonyantoine92328 ай бұрын
Better at what or in what way, I would ask. Pure performance, feel, beauty, and connection to history goes to euro bikes, but overall ownership experience 100% goes to the Japanese bikes. My euro bikes have been easily more exciting to ride, but FAR more depressing to actually own.
@dominictolentino32388 ай бұрын
You may be right but japanese bikes are more cost-effective compared to european bikes in the Philippines.
@yungdadi8 ай бұрын
So, the cost of maintenance and value for money for the performance and reliability is not required to make a bike better than another?
@spencegame8 ай бұрын
I'm not watching the video, I'm just commenting to tell you you're wrong.
@RyanSantos-cn5ij8 ай бұрын
The Maintenance Cost Of A European Bike is Higher than a Japanese Bike, same goes to it's spare parts and Accessories.
@GodofWhoopass
8 ай бұрын
Not my MV Agusta F3 it's only oil changes and valve adjustments and that's it and the new tires occasionally.
@andrewroberts6123
8 ай бұрын
If you are on a tight budget, then buy a Japanese motorcycle. But if you are rich, and you just love wiping your ass with hundred dollar bills, then buy a European Motorcycle, because if you own & maintain a European Motorcycle, you'll be pulling so many 100s out of your wallet, that you will feel like you're wiping your ass with hundred dollar bills, all the time ! 🏍️💨 💵💨💵💨💵💨💵💨💵💨💵
@BlackArroToons8 ай бұрын
I'll admit that it's all about personal preferences. They're cool bikes, but so are other brands/manufacturers.
@Rose_Butterfly988 ай бұрын
I guess? My favourite bike is the Bimota Tesi H2. But like, I mostly just like it since it has the h2 engine and I like it slightly more than the ninja h2 because it's 19kg lighter and has the hub steering.
@OtzchieemКүн бұрын
Yeah always picking on my z650. Not a huge fan of its engine timing and power bands but seriously it’s an awesome bike not 1 person has said anything negative about it unless they didn’t know anything about riding so there
@Dschinghiss4 ай бұрын
"Bikes that cost at least twice that their competitors have slightly better numbers and surprisingly, seem to have better components." There, fixed your title
@ilovemalechickens8 ай бұрын
Its ruffle feathers not rustle
@adibossiseu8 ай бұрын
European here. He love Japanese bikes. On the streets, more than 70% are Japanese. A lot of beginners ride here 600 in-line 4 or 650 twins used Japanese bikes. European bikes might be better, but we love Japanese bikes reliability.
@basiliskbro40784 ай бұрын
Let's mention how Yammie never said how Japanese bikes ruled over Moto GP for around 2 decades.
@Cthooligan8 ай бұрын
As a new RS 660 owner, and first European bike owner, I approve of this video. If I could also afford the new Ducati Hypermotard 698 Mono, I would buy that too in a heartbeat.
@yurionabike998 ай бұрын
Euro bikes are only better when you have money for the maintenance. Most wouldn't take wrench to a bmw or ktm or Ducati not because the complexity but because it will void warranty, also the complexity. Id stick to my 82 honda. My liquid cooled 80° v twin
@halon3a6 ай бұрын
Here in Europe I can only afford Japanese bikes. Bmw Ducati and Aprilia are out of my reach. Maybe I can afford a triumph, maybe. Never had any issues with Japanese, or been left stranded in the middle of the road.
@OfficialZZ968 ай бұрын
I currently have a GSXR600, I have rode R1's and CBR600's and they each posses something, something which cannot be written on a piece of paper which their EU counterparts do not. A certain "Magic"
@denizulas71828 ай бұрын
If Japanese bikes cost as much as Europeans they would be the same
@1683clifton8 ай бұрын
Nothing beats a mt03 baby!😂
@JohnBrown-vn2qw8 ай бұрын
the desmodromic system ducati uses is the reason i won't buy a ducati. that 1299 is one sweet lookin bike
@ajc-ff5cm8 ай бұрын
Japanese bikes come across as very approachable, which fits with their philosophy. European bikes come across as specialized. As in: I am looking for THIS and it must be the best. American bikes come across as: chill. As in, were just gonna cruise coast to coast cause we can.
@hcwaffles89128 ай бұрын
Basically all ur telling me is buy 90s and 2000s japanese bikes
@rzaultra1655 ай бұрын
The question is why did H0nda stop making exotic motorbikes? Because they stopped, these extraordinary motorbikes are now made by other manufacturers, such as the basic design of the RC46 x 2007 RC212V which has now become the P4nigale V4. These amazing motorbikes have actually appeared since the RC series such as NR and RC30 and others. Previously it was considered strange, regulations did not even support V4 engines, only now V4 are popular. This is very late, but now it seems special, only now the regulations realize that this engine is special and the future (now).
@miguel300ish8 ай бұрын
yammie noob if your a fanboy just say it, we all know already.
@tonym80478 ай бұрын
While modern European bikes are awesome (I own one) , no one should forget how the Japanese makes obliterated the British and most other bikes, from the 70’s on. Unit construction, reliability, performance and they even had lights that worked! It was a revolution. The Euros had to get their shit together to survive let alone thrive. Luckily for us they have produced the goods but I suggest to you that the Japanese didn’t just innovate, they invented the modern motorcycle template.
@johnmonsalve118 ай бұрын
If you dont mind your bike leaking oil, not starting, having terminal break downs or cooking your crotch, then sure.
@threnody17448 ай бұрын
Honourable mention in the euro nakeds is the Benelli TnT 899/1130 (Tornado Naked Tre) designed by Adrian Morton, the bike had a triple cylinder engine, marzochi upside down suspension, brembo brakes and had a very eccentric look
@asparceproton15 ай бұрын
My first bike is a Japanese bike, but my second will almost certainly be a European bike. I need to ride some things and figure out what I like, but a Street Triple and a 916/996 are both high on the list.
@dkoh2348 ай бұрын
Its like rolex. Its wanted because its supply is artificially limited.. Get a european bike if you like the unavailability and high maintenance. Your mechanic is gonna be the happiest, he's gonna spend more time with the bike than you😅
@ervisit72128 ай бұрын
The Monster wasn’t the original naked bike, it was the first to become popular worldwide. the Suzuki Bandit came out in 1989, and that wasn’t Japan’s first naked motorcycle.
@DofTF8 ай бұрын
If you want style yes, if you want reliability and high maintenance costs no.
@sidpomy8 ай бұрын
They're not better in terms of their value proposition. In fact, I'd say they're incredibly inferior in that regard.
@brianjackson9801
8 ай бұрын
but in all fairness, that's not what motorcycles are bought for. Real estate and stocks are for investing, motorcycles are for the soul and to buy a motorcycle based on logic alone is to betray oneself.
@purple99698 ай бұрын
Here’s a comparison, do European cars last 300,000 + without major mechanical failure like Japanese cars? People tend to forget but it’s due to our Influence from the best era of our economy on Japan that helped boost them into the manufacturing market they own today!
@captainwin6333
8 ай бұрын
Here's a comparison, Europeans aren't tramps who keep a hold of their cars for decades. In the UK people typically get a new car every 1-3 years while in Europe the average is 3-5 years. Only 7% of Europeans wait 10 years to replace a car. Newer models come along and they buy them. Japan are in deep financial trouble right now.
@hamiltonmacquarrie6 ай бұрын
F9 did an amazing episode comparing the build quality of engine blocks. How did Ryan say it…Italians turned a cheek to quality control after their first morning Esspresso.
@MrSoft-wt4sm5 ай бұрын
Coming from two R6 and a Crossplane R1, I just bought a 14 RSV4. Really excited for this season as I never rode an Italian before.
@brentharrington9235
3 ай бұрын
Once you buy an Italian bike, you will never buy anything else again. Everything from BMW to Triumph to Honda feel the same when compared.
@tolliSTFU8 ай бұрын
I just need a something that gets me from point a to point B I don’t need all this unnecessary competitive nature. What should I get for my first motorbike??
@pruthvigohil9845
8 ай бұрын
Get a duke 250 or 390 whichever suits you speed requirements and you set for long time👍🏻
@nitinravi8400
8 ай бұрын
Get a 100cc or 125cc daily commuter bike if all your requirement is point A to B. Duke 125 is an option. Or you could get a scooter Yamaha Aerox or something like that.
@pruthvigohil9845
8 ай бұрын
@@nitinravi8400 may be he not not from India, 125cc would be too slow for European roads
@lcsper
8 ай бұрын
Just get a scooter then. Cheap, fun and gets you there. Just boring AF.
@jonathansmit872
8 ай бұрын
Definitely a Turbo Hayabusa
@SIRA0638 ай бұрын
Are you able to ship to other countries?
@paulboulanger008 ай бұрын
Moved from a 21 CBR1000RR which kept tripping a CEL for some reason, to a 23 Aprilia Tuono V4 Factory. No check engine lights and I have some mods done to it, and let me just say it is WAY more fun to ride on the road (I’m sure the RR would be a bit more at home on a track) and the sound of that V4 exhaust is absolutely absurd.
@ant_mk35968 ай бұрын
Would love to see a comparison on 125cc bikes on how the old 2 strokes European manufacturers dominated whereas now its japanese and chinese bikes dominating the market, also would love to see your thoughts on my bike hava its a 2001 suzuki intruder VL125 (mines had a few modifications to make it more rider friendly)
@loshmee41938 ай бұрын
0:43 lol, my man, rossi didn't win shit on a ducati 😂
@richardvowler11094 ай бұрын
The price points are not comparable. I'm sure if one of the big four wanted to make a 20k bike with all the tec and quality materials they could but they have never needed to.
@Willie.B768 ай бұрын
The 916 is the bike that made me fall in love with motorcyles a very, very, very long time ago...........still just as beautiful
@richardbranton190
8 ай бұрын
The first time I seen a 916 I said I have got to have one. I still think it's the most beautiful bike ever
@godwindracing6056
8 ай бұрын
The MV F4 750 made me fall in love with motorbikes, but then also the Aprillia RS250 and Honda RVF400 too (I wanted to list the RC30 and RC45)
@godwindracing6056
8 ай бұрын
11:11 naked bikes came about after owners modified their crashed Japanese sportbikes to make it rideable again, this is by removing the fairings - they were originally called 'street fighters' after the UK magazine of the same name
@larsdegasperi80208 ай бұрын
as a ducati owner and frequent italy visitor, i can confirm that italien bikes are better than japanese
@laersoramos7048
8 ай бұрын
As a regular pizza eater and pasta lover, I agree with you
@UnluckyLunkhead8 ай бұрын
When I used a bike to ride to work every day I had a Honda. Now I don't use a bike daily but for summer fun, therefore I have an Italian. When I have bad day at work, I just remember what I have in the garage and the day quickly improves.
@lbG5998 ай бұрын
I agree to this stance for the street bike categories, but I couldn’t agree less on the dirtbikes.
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@dr.tadashizhang7719
8 ай бұрын
Can you also win when you live germany
@captainwin6333
8 ай бұрын
@@dr.tadashizhang7719 Sorry, if you live in Germany you've already lost. Well, that's what the Dutch say anyway. lol
@akshaibhagyanath2483
8 ай бұрын
Send one to india
@leftlifegolfsaga9105
8 ай бұрын
I’m English but live in the excellent road networks and conditions in the French countryside. Though I digress. In response to your comment - did you see the new maintenance schedules for Dukes these days? Ducati have upped their game big time.
@shashibhushan-wd4fl
7 ай бұрын
@yammienoob all beginner bikes are designed and made in India And mostly by Bajaj
As a European specifically German. I disagree. Yes we have the greatest engineers in my opinion but only when it comes to pure numbers and mechanical technology but the biggest problem is that we look at the short term best engine instead of the longevity. They don’t last as long because they are too complicated in design nowadays. I’m talking for German engineers specifically.
@lashachakhunashvili1399
8 ай бұрын
BMW vs Honda?
@rickeco4tango33
8 ай бұрын
Yes sir, I work @ a auto shop and German cars are much nicer and handle better, but cost much more in price and maintenance
@narendrapanse7844
8 ай бұрын
agree.
@Ghosy01
8 ай бұрын
yep no german car is desgined to go further than 100 km from a service centre. whenw as the last time a toyota car broke down ?>
@MarkWucher
8 ай бұрын
Why use 2 parts when you can use 5?
European here. With all my local patriotism, allow me to politely interject: bollocks! The Japanese are the masters. Of course the Eurobikes are "better" - they cost more. They are all "premium", whereas the Japanese cover the entire bandwidth of the market. Pay a Japanese manufacturer as much as you would for a Ducati or a BMW (let alone Harley Davidson), you'd get a gem of a motorcycle. The Japanese - the Asians in general - are very good at selling you exactly what you're willing to pay for. Cheap Chinese wares are crap because you wanted to buy cheap Chinese crap, and the Chinese will gladly sell it to you. Japanese vehicles are affordable and reliable because that's what you wanted from a Japanese vehicle. Do you know why we are making premium European motorcycles and cars? Because we incapable to make Japanese ones.
@TheSilviu8x
8 ай бұрын
I like my cines/euro crap bike, nobody wants to steal it!
@mandrakejake
8 ай бұрын
@@TheSilviu8xmy bikes so ugly a thief would be embarrassed to steal it 😂
@leopardpro2878
8 ай бұрын
100% spot on! This is the exact correct answer
@chadkline4268
8 ай бұрын
No, disagree. The engineering and quality of the BMW bikes and components I've had are far superior to the Japanese bikes I've had. I mean, I agree with you in part, but you get what you pay for with a BMW. Some people value precision and quality and clean designs that include maintenance+longevity in their engineering+materials+design. All too often, I'm working on a Japanese bike and muttering to myself: why the hell did they design it like this, why didn't they use a better alloy here, why is this so difficult to access?
@horrovac
6 ай бұрын
@@chadkline4268 well, this is precisely my point? You can't really disagree and then go on to say exactly what I'm saying. You do get what you pay for with a BMW - but you have to pay for that. Of course they have better materials, bespoke designs and high-value components, because they're expensive. But that doesn't require a lot of engineering skill. Slap some Brembo brakes on, WP or Öhlins suspension bits, good tyres. If you need an attachment point on transmission or engine, you design a new casing. You'll get paid, because it's a premium product and people will pay for that. However, Hondas for example are notoriously reliable. At any case they're not worse than a BMW. The rest of the Japanese big four are also quite reliable, not worse than European manufacturers (and in some cases, *much* better). Servicing a Ducati will cost you an arm and a leg when the valvetrain service is due. BMWs aren't exactly a bargain to service either. The Japanese bikes are cheap to buy, cheap to own and won't let you down. Now that takes some engineering. They didn't use a better alloy because it would be expensive. Stuff is difficult to access because they are reusing designs and keeping the cost down. Simplify the design wherever possible. Reduce the number of parts. I admire that - especially if the end result works just as well or even better than the expensive stuff. I know I'm weird, but I think that a Citroën 2CV, or a ridiculously cheap, small modern car is much more interesting than a Rolls-Royce or a Mercedes. With enough time and money, any idiot can design that - but you must really know your stuff to design a 2-cylinder motor with a single coil and without a distribution cap to save production cost.
I love the premium feel of my Ducati Streetfighter V4S. My previous bike was a Yamaha FZ09, which was a fun bike, but didn't make me smile the way the Ducati does. Then again the Streetfighter did cost me 3x the price of the Yamaha and the service costs are 2x-3x which is no joke.
@phliuy
8 ай бұрын
It also has about 70 more HP than the FZ09. It probably makes you smile more than a Ducati monster too
@trevorbye6965
8 ай бұрын
I just got a streetfighter v4s a week ago as well, it’s the best feeling bike i’ve ever ridden in my life. previous bike was a 2017 gsxr 1000r and yea it was fast, but it felt like a boat. The streetfighter is faster and feels about 100lbs lighter even though it’s nearly the same weight. geometry, suspension, light wheels and how the bike is engineered makes such a massive difference in the handling. it really is unbelievable how much the bike feels like a 600 with how flickable it is (handlebars def help too) the S model was expensive af but man that dynamic Ohlins and forged wheels are so worth it.
@AVI.D
8 ай бұрын
@@trevorbye6965 remember when Revzilla had a v4s go slower than an 05 gixxer?
Japanese ethos doesn’t believe that consumer conveniences should be limited to a particular section of society. That’s why they’re so hell focused on reliability, longevity, accessibility, and quality control, which are intrinsically linked to their philosophy of Obitouri, which you can read about, rather than “look-I-am-the-big-daddy-syndrome”. European manufacturers , in fact the entire western manufacturing, don’t believe in anything as such. They’re good in giving you boners, but they can’t be trusted. A Ducati is your $2000 per hour escort from moonlight bunny ranch, where as a KLR 650 is your perfect house wife. Which one would you choose depends on what you believe in.
@adrianzingre9875
8 ай бұрын
You say they dont care about "im the big daddy"... explain the H2R then 💀
@unknownps
8 ай бұрын
every house wife has a little black dress in the wardrobe
@syiqayd
8 ай бұрын
thats a reliable big daddy then XD@@adrianzingre9875
@seanhayes6097
8 ай бұрын
Well said bro! I'm a Gixer man, though most Jap bikes offer better value, reliability etc for your bucks than the Euro machines!
@richloves46
8 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
Yeah the Duc and Ape are sweet bikes no doubt. I just wouldn’t like the maintenance schedules. I’d rather spend all the time they’d be in the shop , actually riding my boring Japanese bikes.
@lcsper
8 ай бұрын
But what about the flex factor, curb appeal and bonus heartache when a screw comes loose and they charge you 100 usd for a replacement?
@colordazed
8 ай бұрын
20th century reasoning.
@cr0p_dustin
8 ай бұрын
What he said. Plus... I honestly don't agree with the styling points. That's so subjective. I think a lot of ducattis look very boring and lifeless, and aprillias are hideous with their giant logo plastered all over it.
@rogerp4612
8 ай бұрын
Cmon, having your bike in shop being fussed over by Euro repair shop is way more fun than actually riding it. 😅
@luddite6239
8 ай бұрын
Really? Kawasaki ZX10R: oil change every 7.5k miles; valve check every 15k. Ducati Panigale V4: oil change every 7.5k miles; valve check every 15k. Sounds pretty similar to me and, given the money. I know which I'd rather have - ciao! 🏍️
2002 Yamaha R1 with 127k+ miles and still runs like a champ with minimal repair costs in its 20+ years and still puts a huge smile on my face! No Euro can do that.
@Tiag_90
8 ай бұрын
how about those GS 1200 with 200k km on them, or the ktm's with the same? you can find plenty of those used
@TheVelasquez87
8 ай бұрын
Boxer engine can also match that
@Angel-fz8dr
7 ай бұрын
@@Tiag_90 comparing supersport bike with adventure bike is foolish to say the least
@everettbranscom6536
7 ай бұрын
@@Tiag_90high mileage KtMs are like bigfoot, everybody has heard about one but you never got to see one for yourself. Only lame stories and a blurry pic for proof.
Just the fact we are comparing a whole continent with a single country thats just a small island means the Japenese are beasts. I owned MT-15 as a beginner then moved to MT-07 and I don't think I'm ever gonna want another bike.
@sliglusamelius8578
8 ай бұрын
How do you like the MT 07? Is it powerful enough for you?
@nokshidongotdeleted
8 ай бұрын
@@sliglusamelius8578 I'd say the MT-07 is the most perfect street bike for me. I have never felt like I was lacking power. And, it's torque is real good. I am not a tall guy so it's really perfect for my size. Unlike tall people who can make the bike look small, it looks perfect and I love its designs with some mods I have installed. It gives a pretty good mileage and over the time, I have learned to do small maintenances myself. I have also made a custom saddle stay for my MT-07 and I can just put it on my bike, put on the bags then go for some touring. In one word, the MT-07 has been a fun bike for me.
@behalsingh1290
8 ай бұрын
Yes even though Japanese entered in the game few years later then euros.
@AVI.D
8 ай бұрын
@@sliglusamelius8578 It depends on what you want from a bike, doing highway pulls a literbike will eventually feel slow, going around a go kart track or a twisty road 30 hp can be more than enough for most riders
As someone who loves euro bikes, i can say this video is severely bs, not because he's lying but because how yammie is ignoring all the good things about a japanese bike that they are known for a continuesly making them sound alot inferior even tho they aren't. This video was only made to bait the euro bike lovers. He mever highlighted the cosy, maintenance, durability factor and if he did, the video would be title 'why japanese bikes are better..."
@dadwillfixit
5 ай бұрын
I think this video was made to bait the japanese bike lovers and it worked.
Yammie Noob, I sure hope your making the "Why Japanese bikes are BETTER than European bikes" video soon".
@TheSunMoon
8 ай бұрын
Won't be long; a lot of the videos with these titles bait people to watch, increasing viewership
@GeorgeTelop
8 ай бұрын
He already made plenty of vids for affordable easy to own and maintain bikes. He always praising their reliability, enough with the crying everytime he mentions european bikes
Bought a Ducati thinking it wouldn’t be a problem, the parts hard to get and repairs cost ultimately became a problem,
@defender714
8 ай бұрын
absolutely.
@JesusAlbertoPinto
8 ай бұрын
The two small lateral fairings for a 07’ Hypermotard = 1000£ No carbon fiber, nothing fancy. Just plastic… Yeah, better…
@JohnBrown-vn2qw
8 ай бұрын
all i can say about ducati is they look good
Depends.. if your budget is limited, Japanese is the only way. Doesn't matter how exciting a euro bike is if you can't afford the bills
@captainwin6333
8 ай бұрын
But they can obviously or they wouldn't buy them.
@GodofWhoopass
8 ай бұрын
How? A new MV Agusta F3 or DUcati V2 is $17k, a new Gixxer 1000 is $15k it's only a couple thousand more.
@eomersimbajon2938
8 ай бұрын
@@GodofWhoopassoh yeah definitely, it's only just a couple hundred thousand more in other countries, just get the much better and expensive one
@voidboi736
8 ай бұрын
@@GodofWhoopassDude compare V4 or 4 cylinder prices to Gixxer, then we'll talk about prices.
@yurionabike99
8 ай бұрын
@@GodofWhoopassnow how much is a simple oil change?
In the 4 months that I owned my only Ducati, it quickly lost its “charm” after the almost $4k I had to spend on repairs. Went back to Japanese and never looked back.
The fact that we compare a whole condinent with a single country says all the story here. Japan brands may not be the most innovative and creative ones but they did motorcycles to be available for every one. Reliability=engineering quality
@SansSentiments
4 ай бұрын
truth be told, its Germany/Italy against Japan. noone else in europe actually still builds bikes in europe afaik.
@rns6889
3 ай бұрын
Not the most innovative? They dominated the market and racetracks for a reason back then. But absolutely true, they make everything, the boring, the amazing, the crazy, the do it all.. I think it's the bias because euro bikes are made less, and they don't make budget friendly ones. But when they do actually try to make ones that they don't make to be budget friendly they deliver of course. The only part where you can say that is absolutely true about japanese makers is the corporatism, though you can just filter out the ones that they didn't have much passion in.. It's quite obvious that the new hornet cb line is not really much cared for 💀. But the cb1000r though, just look at it lol.
In Brazil, Eurobikes lack durability. They can’t stand our heat and roads, whereas Japanese ones own it. Also, it’s a shame European motorcycles do not invest in inline 4, which, let’s be honest, present the best motor sound possible. Last but not least, their tech features don’t justify the above the average price tag.
@canerguener8664
Ай бұрын
Try Ducati,Triumph with good maintenance
Higher end Japanese bikes are on par with the Europeans imo. It’s just that the Japanese manufacturers offer a lot more budget and mid market bikes that don’t quite have the quality as euro bikes
@fqeagles21
8 ай бұрын
They are not on pare anymore,some years ago they clearly were superiore but not anymore
@hexagonosaurus5848
8 ай бұрын
Out of 8 sport bikes I had, the only one that burned oil was a Honda SC59 and the only gearbox that had a problem was on a K2 gixxer. 675 Daytona is the best built sport bike.
@fqeagles21
8 ай бұрын
@@DragonNinjaHayabusa98 One bike and literally the only Bike in that class
@Navieri
8 ай бұрын
@@DragonNinjaHayabusa98it is only better in a straight line. It is inferior in every other scenario. Also the maintainance on an H2 is still expensive, on par with European bikes, due to the caliber of motorcycle it is. I own an H2 and a V4S Panigale
Not sure how bikes that spend as much time in the shop or waiting for parts could possibly be considered higher quality? I consider reliability paramount as I don't have a dedicated personal mechanic with a container full or parts or 10 spare bikes to balance out the ones waiting for repairs
Japanese motorbike are reliable .
Servicing price is too high. Parts are harder to get.
Great episode. I own an old 98 Ducati ST2, and a 2015 Gxs S750. They are night and day as far as temperament and ease to ride. The GsxS is exactly what you'd expect from an inline four Japanese bike. It's fast when it gets past 6000 rpm, it shifts smooth, easy maintenance and a dream to daily drive especially around town. The Ducati is polar opposite. It has a dry clutch which is loud and rowdy. The clutch is on or off, no in between. It's wild like a bronco that's nice enough to let you ride it. You must rev match the Ducati or the rear end bounces because of high compression in the motor. In other words no engine braking. It has a deep voice. It sounds like an old muscle car. It's fun to ride also, just more demanding.
I only agree to the fact that italian bike look good but for my own experience i will never buy again a duc. I had a hypermotard 2014 new. this bike just gave me headache. Electrical problem that never ducati has been able to find. And few times i was waiting in the waiting room i was asking the guys what’s wrong with your duc and many times i heard the same. Electrical problems….. So i never took this bike for a big trip because i never know when she will accept to restart or not….. and i had a R1 2016 new. I never had one problem. This bike was the best bike i ever have.
Buying a new bike is stupid. Period.
@sidpomy
8 ай бұрын
That depends. If it's your first or maybe second bike, sure it's usually better to go used. But one you fully intend on keeping until it dies? I'd rather have one that I know I was in control for every mile put on the mechanics of the bike.
@test23412
8 ай бұрын
@sidopomy I would agree, but its 2023. Do you know what I mean? Things are build differently than they used to.
@alexpunisher4654
8 ай бұрын
Why ?) I bought new MT 07 and just ride without problems
The only reason why Ducati's utilize Desmodromic architecture is because they still haven't managed to make decent quality springs 😂 Google Ducati gear shifter return springs issues
Question: Where is the European DCT? Is that not a Japanese invention and innovation?!?
@hunterl7588
7 ай бұрын
Where’s the Japanese dct besides the showroom? Very few people buy those.
@RollWithSoul317
7 ай бұрын
@@hunterl7588 The main reason a lot of people opt for the DCT is that they may have a physical impairment or disability that prevents them from using a shift lever or clutch. Also, older riders choose them after decades of using a manual transmission! But as I look around on various KZread channels, younger riders are loving their Honda Rebel 1100 DCT and the Goldwing DCT’s are extremely popular! More so, the Goldwing DCT!!! Check out the market sales analysis for those bikes and your questions should be answered! I research before I comment. 👍
I am that person who will choose tools over jewelry. I am user. And that brings me to Suzuki over and over. :-)
Hi guys. Is there a quote "Every trip is a wasted trip if you don't get home (safe)." or something similarly?
6 countries vs 1 20+ manufacturers vs 4 Tells you all you need to know 😂
European bikes are may be good but when it comes to reliability and longevity no one come to close to Japanese bikes and accessibility to every rider.
What did you just say?
Ima say this if limited hp is in play the R1 is no doubt the best corner machine on track Ducati is hp king and it shows but turning I’ll take R1 all day period
I'm a former R6 owner. I always lusted after the Eurobikes but stayed away because of reliability and dealer network issues. Those issues are much less prominent these days, so much so that I currently own a Ducati Multi V4S and Aprilia Tuono V4.
Reject stats, embrace the ninja 250. The chadest of all bikes
I’ve been riding since 1980. I 100% disagree. I’ve ridden them all.
for years Yammie noob wanted to let his euro simp come free and now he finally did.
Euro bikes are too expensive to maintain unless you are from Europe. BMW is probably a mild exception here. The Japanese bikes are more reliable, just as fun, more practical, and less likely to cost you your months pay to repair if they do fail.
@elcookiemonsteru
8 ай бұрын
Nah, still cheaper to maintain a Japanese bike than an European here in Finland.
If you could afford to purchase and maintain euro bikes, then by all means, you do you. Japanese bikes are meant to be more accessible to as many riders as possible. It all depends on the size of your pocket. I don't mind owning a BMW R1200GS; if I could afford the price and upkeep. But my very limited budget is more confines me to a "simple" Versys 650. Not the best bike but it is reliable and will not put a big dent in my pocket when comes to maintenance.
Yamaha MT 07 is the best middle weight naked bike.. Admit it
My cousin has over 200,000 miles on a Kawasaki Vulcan. My first bike was European, a Norton Command. It leaked oil at the tachometer drive and primary chain case, brakes were almost worthless, and it blew a head gasket after 9000 miles.
Me with a Chinese CFMoto: 👁️👄👁️
I loved my BMW K 1300 S, but after leaving it in pieces on the freeway, I tried a Ducati Supersport 939. It was absolute crap. It felt like there was an oven under the seat. The mirrors vibrated so badly that they were useless. And it would routinely hit false neutrals when using the autoshifter. If BMW had made a bike like the R 1200 RS with the K 1300 engine, I'd have purchased one. But they discontinued the inline 4 Ks for more boxers, and the boxer twin is annoying. A year ago, I was finally able to find a Ninja 1000 SX to test ride, and I drove it home the same day. It's smooth, quick, and comfortable. For what I want out of a bike, there isn't even a European option today.
I agree! And the only bike I desire outside of Ducati or Aprilia is the Fireblade!
When I was young, I loved my Ducati 851 Super Sport, just like my Italian girlfriend, just sweet and beautiful when everything was fine. But she was unpredictable, temperamental, complicated, high maintenance. She required expensive restaurants and a dozen roses. My KTM riding friend says the same. Now I settle for less passion and more peace of mind. I ride a good old 4 cylinder Honda.
Good to know they exist. For my own with mine own money, I'd still get the Japanese. Almost the same performance, not nearly the same maintenance. There's a reason why we see old gixxers and Busas made into all kinds of things like dirt bikes or turbo bikes and European bikes find a museum shelf.
They're really great bikes when you can work on them yourselve and you're not dependent on a shop or a dealership.
I am not going to tracks, as being a normal people who cruises and having fun, i will surely consider reliability(Japanese) over the minimal hype power(europeans)
The motorcycle community of Reddit have answered, majority rule yammie as the most wrong motorcycle KZreadr 😂
People take these videos so seriously when it’s clearly tongue in cheek. The Japanese make amazing bikes at every point on the range, if price is completely ignored there are a lot of options in Europe that are best in their category but none by a massive margin and it’s incredibly subjective as soon as you bring price in. If you feel the need to get offended one way or another (or argue in extremes/ absolutes) about which is “better” you need to work on your fragility, it ain’t that deep.
Sorry, you can't beat a Japanese Classic Honda Rebel 🏍 the spoked wheel version that was made for 30 years 1985-2016 in the metric that matters to me most. Hint: It's not speed, it's not power, it's not looks....
For my money the Yamaha MT series of bikes are still better bang for your buck and more reliable. I'm still riding my FZ07 and love it. I'd love to have a Superduke or Streetfighter but can't pull the trigger on that purchase when the MT09 exists.
You know what they say about Euro bikes? You're either riding them or fixing them. Really it's just a matter of taste and $$$. And yeah the Italians really know how to build an exotic looking bikes that sound incredible. They really are beautiful and a work of art. But I'll keep my zx14r thank you.
I started with a Japanese bike as my first bike, have since been all Euro. Started with the CBR500R (it's not THAT bad, c'mon guys) and then moved to a 701 Supermoto and as of a month ago moved on to the KTM 1290 Super Adventure S, just in time for the winter season. lol I love Japanese bikes and in fact did almost go back to Japanese when looking to upgrade from my 701, but that 1290 was just something I had to have and experience. So again I say, c'mon, ADV bikes are great! Loving mine even though I only got 3 rides on it before being put away for winter. Spring is gonna be exciting!!!
Went from a Honda to an Aprilia, and I have ZERO regrets.
For somebody who buys a new bike every year, euro is cool. For someone for whom a bike is one of their most significant fun investments and they plan to ride through 3 or 4 sets of brake pads... Japanese please.
that triumph scrambler!! juicy! 😍😍
So you’re basically saying everything is better than US bikes….?
When you got money, you start loving a european motorcycle. And they know exactly whom to sell their motorcycle.
Better at what or in what way, I would ask. Pure performance, feel, beauty, and connection to history goes to euro bikes, but overall ownership experience 100% goes to the Japanese bikes. My euro bikes have been easily more exciting to ride, but FAR more depressing to actually own.
You may be right but japanese bikes are more cost-effective compared to european bikes in the Philippines.
So, the cost of maintenance and value for money for the performance and reliability is not required to make a bike better than another?
I'm not watching the video, I'm just commenting to tell you you're wrong.
The Maintenance Cost Of A European Bike is Higher than a Japanese Bike, same goes to it's spare parts and Accessories.
@GodofWhoopass
8 ай бұрын
Not my MV Agusta F3 it's only oil changes and valve adjustments and that's it and the new tires occasionally.
@andrewroberts6123
8 ай бұрын
If you are on a tight budget, then buy a Japanese motorcycle. But if you are rich, and you just love wiping your ass with hundred dollar bills, then buy a European Motorcycle, because if you own & maintain a European Motorcycle, you'll be pulling so many 100s out of your wallet, that you will feel like you're wiping your ass with hundred dollar bills, all the time ! 🏍️💨 💵💨💵💨💵💨💵💨💵💨💵
I'll admit that it's all about personal preferences. They're cool bikes, but so are other brands/manufacturers.
I guess? My favourite bike is the Bimota Tesi H2. But like, I mostly just like it since it has the h2 engine and I like it slightly more than the ninja h2 because it's 19kg lighter and has the hub steering.
Yeah always picking on my z650. Not a huge fan of its engine timing and power bands but seriously it’s an awesome bike not 1 person has said anything negative about it unless they didn’t know anything about riding so there
"Bikes that cost at least twice that their competitors have slightly better numbers and surprisingly, seem to have better components." There, fixed your title
Its ruffle feathers not rustle
European here. He love Japanese bikes. On the streets, more than 70% are Japanese. A lot of beginners ride here 600 in-line 4 or 650 twins used Japanese bikes. European bikes might be better, but we love Japanese bikes reliability.
Let's mention how Yammie never said how Japanese bikes ruled over Moto GP for around 2 decades.
As a new RS 660 owner, and first European bike owner, I approve of this video. If I could also afford the new Ducati Hypermotard 698 Mono, I would buy that too in a heartbeat.
Euro bikes are only better when you have money for the maintenance. Most wouldn't take wrench to a bmw or ktm or Ducati not because the complexity but because it will void warranty, also the complexity. Id stick to my 82 honda. My liquid cooled 80° v twin
Here in Europe I can only afford Japanese bikes. Bmw Ducati and Aprilia are out of my reach. Maybe I can afford a triumph, maybe. Never had any issues with Japanese, or been left stranded in the middle of the road.
I currently have a GSXR600, I have rode R1's and CBR600's and they each posses something, something which cannot be written on a piece of paper which their EU counterparts do not. A certain "Magic"
If Japanese bikes cost as much as Europeans they would be the same
Nothing beats a mt03 baby!😂
the desmodromic system ducati uses is the reason i won't buy a ducati. that 1299 is one sweet lookin bike
Japanese bikes come across as very approachable, which fits with their philosophy. European bikes come across as specialized. As in: I am looking for THIS and it must be the best. American bikes come across as: chill. As in, were just gonna cruise coast to coast cause we can.
Basically all ur telling me is buy 90s and 2000s japanese bikes
The question is why did H0nda stop making exotic motorbikes? Because they stopped, these extraordinary motorbikes are now made by other manufacturers, such as the basic design of the RC46 x 2007 RC212V which has now become the P4nigale V4. These amazing motorbikes have actually appeared since the RC series such as NR and RC30 and others. Previously it was considered strange, regulations did not even support V4 engines, only now V4 are popular. This is very late, but now it seems special, only now the regulations realize that this engine is special and the future (now).
yammie noob if your a fanboy just say it, we all know already.
While modern European bikes are awesome (I own one) , no one should forget how the Japanese makes obliterated the British and most other bikes, from the 70’s on. Unit construction, reliability, performance and they even had lights that worked! It was a revolution. The Euros had to get their shit together to survive let alone thrive. Luckily for us they have produced the goods but I suggest to you that the Japanese didn’t just innovate, they invented the modern motorcycle template.
If you dont mind your bike leaking oil, not starting, having terminal break downs or cooking your crotch, then sure.
Honourable mention in the euro nakeds is the Benelli TnT 899/1130 (Tornado Naked Tre) designed by Adrian Morton, the bike had a triple cylinder engine, marzochi upside down suspension, brembo brakes and had a very eccentric look
My first bike is a Japanese bike, but my second will almost certainly be a European bike. I need to ride some things and figure out what I like, but a Street Triple and a 916/996 are both high on the list.
Its like rolex. Its wanted because its supply is artificially limited.. Get a european bike if you like the unavailability and high maintenance. Your mechanic is gonna be the happiest, he's gonna spend more time with the bike than you😅
The Monster wasn’t the original naked bike, it was the first to become popular worldwide. the Suzuki Bandit came out in 1989, and that wasn’t Japan’s first naked motorcycle.
If you want style yes, if you want reliability and high maintenance costs no.
They're not better in terms of their value proposition. In fact, I'd say they're incredibly inferior in that regard.
@brianjackson9801
8 ай бұрын
but in all fairness, that's not what motorcycles are bought for. Real estate and stocks are for investing, motorcycles are for the soul and to buy a motorcycle based on logic alone is to betray oneself.
Here’s a comparison, do European cars last 300,000 + without major mechanical failure like Japanese cars? People tend to forget but it’s due to our Influence from the best era of our economy on Japan that helped boost them into the manufacturing market they own today!
@captainwin6333
8 ай бұрын
Here's a comparison, Europeans aren't tramps who keep a hold of their cars for decades. In the UK people typically get a new car every 1-3 years while in Europe the average is 3-5 years. Only 7% of Europeans wait 10 years to replace a car. Newer models come along and they buy them. Japan are in deep financial trouble right now.
F9 did an amazing episode comparing the build quality of engine blocks. How did Ryan say it…Italians turned a cheek to quality control after their first morning Esspresso.
Coming from two R6 and a Crossplane R1, I just bought a 14 RSV4. Really excited for this season as I never rode an Italian before.
@brentharrington9235
3 ай бұрын
Once you buy an Italian bike, you will never buy anything else again. Everything from BMW to Triumph to Honda feel the same when compared.
I just need a something that gets me from point a to point B I don’t need all this unnecessary competitive nature. What should I get for my first motorbike??
@pruthvigohil9845
8 ай бұрын
Get a duke 250 or 390 whichever suits you speed requirements and you set for long time👍🏻
@nitinravi8400
8 ай бұрын
Get a 100cc or 125cc daily commuter bike if all your requirement is point A to B. Duke 125 is an option. Or you could get a scooter Yamaha Aerox or something like that.
@pruthvigohil9845
8 ай бұрын
@@nitinravi8400 may be he not not from India, 125cc would be too slow for European roads
@lcsper
8 ай бұрын
Just get a scooter then. Cheap, fun and gets you there. Just boring AF.
@jonathansmit872
8 ай бұрын
Definitely a Turbo Hayabusa
Are you able to ship to other countries?
Moved from a 21 CBR1000RR which kept tripping a CEL for some reason, to a 23 Aprilia Tuono V4 Factory. No check engine lights and I have some mods done to it, and let me just say it is WAY more fun to ride on the road (I’m sure the RR would be a bit more at home on a track) and the sound of that V4 exhaust is absolutely absurd.
Would love to see a comparison on 125cc bikes on how the old 2 strokes European manufacturers dominated whereas now its japanese and chinese bikes dominating the market, also would love to see your thoughts on my bike hava its a 2001 suzuki intruder VL125 (mines had a few modifications to make it more rider friendly)
0:43 lol, my man, rossi didn't win shit on a ducati 😂
The price points are not comparable. I'm sure if one of the big four wanted to make a 20k bike with all the tec and quality materials they could but they have never needed to.
The 916 is the bike that made me fall in love with motorcyles a very, very, very long time ago...........still just as beautiful
@richardbranton190
8 ай бұрын
The first time I seen a 916 I said I have got to have one. I still think it's the most beautiful bike ever
@godwindracing6056
8 ай бұрын
The MV F4 750 made me fall in love with motorbikes, but then also the Aprillia RS250 and Honda RVF400 too (I wanted to list the RC30 and RC45)
@godwindracing6056
8 ай бұрын
11:11 naked bikes came about after owners modified their crashed Japanese sportbikes to make it rideable again, this is by removing the fairings - they were originally called 'street fighters' after the UK magazine of the same name
as a ducati owner and frequent italy visitor, i can confirm that italien bikes are better than japanese
@laersoramos7048
8 ай бұрын
As a regular pizza eater and pasta lover, I agree with you
When I used a bike to ride to work every day I had a Honda. Now I don't use a bike daily but for summer fun, therefore I have an Italian. When I have bad day at work, I just remember what I have in the garage and the day quickly improves.
I agree to this stance for the street bike categories, but I couldn’t agree less on the dirtbikes.