Paul, you've really peaked my interest in these. I just got the Final A4000 and the KBEAR lark and I'm a big fan of both, very happy with this round of IEM's. I've been eyeballing etymotic for quite a while now and I've heard a lot about them being more for the pro market. I'll definitely be picking up a pair now that you've given it a look, I really trust your opinion over other reviewers because of your down to earth, straight up reviews. Thanks for putting out this vid!

@PaulWasabii

3 жыл бұрын

First, thank you for the comment. I wasn't surprised they are very accurate, I was surprised that very accurate sounds fun and engaging. In a few minutes with them, I understood why they have been popular for 5 years and fans have multiple sets by Etymotic. Sometimes, myself included, people jump on the hype train and a set is hot for a few months. Take a look at how long people have been talking about these sets. As I said, you do need to commit to the deep fit and I certainly understand how that is not comfortable for all ears. I learned that my ear canal does turn upwards so all those videos of people grabbing their top of the ear first makes sense to me. Good luck, the Final and Lark are great sets as well. Supposedly there are other KB EAR song birds coming out soon.

@etymotic872

3 жыл бұрын

@@PaulWasabii Great tip! For most people, pulling your ear up will help with the insertion of the earphone. After continued use, you might be able to insert and wiggle the earphone into the ear without having to pull it up. If the triple flange seems uncomfortable, try the double flange. For some in our office, they will get a tickling/tingly feeling and over time that feeling has disappeared. Something to think about. Thank you for the great review.

@PaulWasabii

3 жыл бұрын

@@etymotic872 thank you for the helpful advice and for stopping by.

I have had experience with the ER2XR, they are simply fantastic!!

@PaulWasabii

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you. I will admit that I was not very knowledgeable about their product portfolio previously so it was a bit of a gem for me.

@hi-friaudioman

3 жыл бұрын

I've heard several people say that. I think I'm going to make etymotic my next set.

@etymotic872

3 жыл бұрын

Glad you're liking it HiFiGo!

I took advantage of the adorama DEEP discount on the ER4XR and I'm in love! I've owned the ER2SE for a couple years now, but the ER4s are on another level. Only problem is that it's hard to listen to anything else since I received them. Endgame!

@PaulWasabii

3 жыл бұрын

Ok thanks for saying something. To be honest, I keep seeing people talk about the other models recently and was wondering if I chose wrong. My gut says all the models are great in their way, but I was just surprised their wasn't more love for the ER4 at that price recently. Certainly lots of love for it in the past. I actually bought a 2.5mm cable for it partly out of fear I would break the cable. Thanks again

@zev51104

3 жыл бұрын

@@PaulWasabii Same. Not a huge fan of the cable. Although it's nicer than the ER2, it's too long and actually feels more fragile. I ordered a 4.4mm from Null Audio. Still waiting on it. I think people are turned off by the whole ba timbre thing. Honestly, that's why I waited so long. Turns out I had nothing to worry about because I probably wouldn't be able to discern a difference in most cases anyway. Imo, the warmth and clarity of the ER4XR far outweighs any negatives the single ba might bring to the table, because I can't hear anything bad about them. Of all my IEMs and headphones I think these are exactly what I find to be the most pleasing sound for me.

@etymotic872

3 жыл бұрын

@@PaulWasabii For the more casual listener who plays today's popular music, the ER2XR might have the preferred sound due to the DD used. You hit it right on the head with your statement "all the models are great in their own way".

I have both the ER2XR and ER2SE. Mainly because I prefer a DD over BA. I must admit they are my favourite IEMs that I have ever bought. They sound so smooth and natural. I would strongly recommend these to anybody. I can wear them all day without even a hint of fatigue. They sound fantastic.

@hi-friaudioman

3 жыл бұрын

Nice, Thanks for the info! I'm thinking about making these my next pair. Looking at the SR variant just because that is my field and I want extreme accuracy over tuning. But either sound like a great option.

@johnellison3173

3 жыл бұрын

@@hi-friaudioman Go for it. You wont be dissapointed with them providing you can take the deep insertion 😁

@PaulWasabii

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks John. On paper, I had a reasonable idea of the company and their specialty. It is slightly different when you pop it in your ears and on the ER4, wrap your head around the fact it is a single BA.

@etymotic872

3 жыл бұрын

​@@PaulWasabii

I recently bought the ER2XR and was very surprised at how warm and tastefully bassy it sounds. I find the foam tips are by far the most simple and comfortable to fit and the fit is more consistent. I don't usually like how foams affect the sound in more conventional IEMs but I haven't noticed any change. I am using Comply professional series, very comfortable. I recommend trying the filter tuning kit, someone suggested it to me. I was happy with the sound but tried a different filter just out of interest and it made a very audible difference. It's worth looking up rather than me try to explain it poorly.

@PaulWasabii

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks, another case where I read lots of opinions on the Etymotics and how people are surprised on the tuning and quality. Even reading all of that, it was still surprising to try them. I try to avoid foam too but I use it on the ER4XR and my Galaxy buds

Nice! I'm super curious to try an Etymotic one day.

@PaulWasabii

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah I actually said the same thing. People have mentioned it in the past, it didn't click until I thought of it more of a reference than just another set. There is a lot of research that went into it so you can assume it sounds good, but I was still surprised how good.

@etymotic872

3 жыл бұрын

​@@PaulWasabii All of our products, earphones included, have a lot of research that went into them. They are individually tested and accuracy verified by our engineers before being shipped out.

Hey nice one Paul! :D

@PaulWasabii

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you. Had a thought about it more, I should have gone thru some Anthrax tracks. Probably a few that sound great on it.

@MichaelBruceTaos

3 жыл бұрын

@@PaulWasabii haha, Anthrax is my favorite man. \m/

@etymotic872

3 жыл бұрын

👍

Would appreciate a review music list. Regarding sound stage: I have never figured out how this applies to iems. Seems like the producer of the music would need to optimize for an iem for a mention of staging to be relevant.

@PaulWasabii

2 жыл бұрын

My main one is: tidal.com/browse/playlist/45c29422-7323-4d7b-a2fe-c6d575460410 but I have more than a few others. Stage for iems isn't that simple. I am mostly convinced some people hear it and others do not. Some people are fanatical about it and others never mention it. People who are interested but don't quite get it tend to point to tracks by Yosi Horikawa and those are produced in a way that makes stage relevant. Most people judge based on whether the instruments are primarily inside your head vs beyond your head.

I've owned these for a few years - totally killed my cravings to want to spend more on higher end items. When I bought these they were $299 or $399 or something. I too switched over to some foamy tips so I didn't feel like my ears were being violated. I got a custom cable made with a balanced termination - only wish etymotic offered a headset cable for this like they had promised years ago - just so I could have max versatility with them.

@PaulWasabii

3 жыл бұрын

I did the same after I reviewed it. Bought a 2.5mm balanced cable which is what I use now and keep the stock in a safe place. I use the foams as well, just feels less invasive and doesn't pressure my ears as I assumed looking at the thick foam. Everything in the box is well thought out. I am debating picking up the ER2SE also.

Thank you for the review, I would like to ask you... Can the Er4 SR/XR work effeciently and properly with 2017 ipad pro (12.9inch) which has a 3.5mm jack. I see that they have an impedance of 45 ohm and I believe that the ipad jack is 1.7 ohm Also which of the ER series would you recommend for EQing and mixing music in studio? 4sr, 4xr, 2se, 2xr. Again thank you so much 🌹

@PaulWasabii

3 жыл бұрын

Rather than give you a bad answer, I would try posting here where there is a large group of Etymotic users as well as a company rep: www.head-fi.org/threads/if-you-still-love-etymotic-er4-this-is-the-thread-for-you.538615/page-1130

All the etymotic sr/xr series is very expensive in the EU. I'm trying to get er2sr, but it's 150USD here.

@PaulWasabii

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, I saw a comment from someone trying to use Adorama to ship international and it adds another $40+ usd. Same thing was true on the Earstudio ES100 for some time, quite a bit more expensive outside of the US. Thank you

@murph8411

3 жыл бұрын

Over 400 usd from Amazon in the uk

Those foams are the best I've used

@PaulWasabii

2 жыл бұрын

I will admit those are high quality foams and work very well for me. I know there are similar foams on Amazon, but I have not tried them to know if they are the same or not.

Can someone point me in the right direction here. I currently have the ER4SR and I'm looking for an upgrade in technical performance, sound stage, imaging, separation, dynamics while maintaining the totality and neutral frequency response of the ER4SR. I'm aware that the Etys are diffuse field neutral, but I'm also open to trying sets that might be tuned to sound like a set of flat speakers in a room as opposed to measuring flat at the eardrum. Slight base shelf is fine, timbre really important. My short list currently includes: InEar prophile 8 Monarch MK II 64 audio U12T, Noble audio kadence Shuoer EJ07M

@mikafoxx2717

10 ай бұрын

If you want etymotic like, Viento. You can get them custom too, if you know how to. They're pretty much the endgame for neutral, though they have switches that you can use to add bass or mids or both as wanted.

5:55 cervix of the ear

i want to try etymotic so badly, but deep fit is so scary i already hate when my iems are too deep and i can't even imagine that

@PaulWasabii

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, it is invasive and very personal too. No one can tell you that they will feel ok or not. The one good thing about the ER4XR is the wide assortment of tips included which are varying degrees of invasive. For me, buying them in the US from Adorama makes it slightly easier, I could have returned them easily. But yeah, there isn't much you can do other than hold your breath and try it. Although supposed to keep your mouth open as is opens the ear canal ;)

@SteelyDanUnofficial

3 жыл бұрын

@@PaulWasabii I saw ER2SE for 50$ on Adorama I think I might get one.

It’s meant to be inserted quite deep

@PaulWasabii

3 жыл бұрын

Yep, just trying to make sure people consider the fit and their ear sensitivity. Thanks

@etymotic872

3 жыл бұрын

@@PaulWasabii We have a dual flange that might be more appealing to a wider set of ears.