SVP and Rich... good stuff!

@johnperiard9594

2 жыл бұрын

Good episode

@steveandersen2291

2 жыл бұрын

Bald simps

I love these RE/SVP chats.

@Piesfan35

2 жыл бұрын

My two favourite follicly challenged sportscasters

I agree with SVP that the LIV is going to get stale in a moment BUT the players that are taking the money don’t care about that and that affects the pga tour product.

@kyle6232

2 жыл бұрын

We’ll see, they got some pretty big golfers. It’s not a garbage golf league, could argue it’s similar competition to the European tour

@Real28

2 жыл бұрын

@@kyle6232 I don't think I'd call anyone they have big, currently. Maybe 10 years ago? Sure. Bryson isn't what he used to be. Brooks was good a decade ago. Everyone else is pretty much mid field at best. Not a single one would get me to go to a tournament, even a PGA event.

@kyle6232

2 жыл бұрын

@@Real28 Bryson won the Us Open one year ago, what are you talking about? He’s still in his prime. Dustin Johnson’s awesome, Sergio Garcia is still good, and a lot of oldest guys who are ok. It’s not PGA level, I’m not arguing that, but there’s good golf talent and who knows if the attract more going forward.

@kyle6232

2 жыл бұрын

@@Real28 oh plus Brooks Koepka just announced he’s joining LIV with Abraham Ancer two top 20 PGA tour talent. So idk man, kinda feel like you’re delusional. And Brooks won the PGA in 2019, what are you talking about he was good a decade ago? I suppose that’s true, however, he’s still currently a top 20 golfer so he was good a decade ago and he is currently still very good. You’re straight up delusional bro

@pjpredhomme7699

2 жыл бұрын

@@kyle6232 if any of those guys were playing in my front yard - I would not turn my head to watch . Not that they are not good players- they all are - they are just all assholes - always have been .

Here’s my like and comment to help SVP understand that as a lifelong yet very casual fan of the PGA, I absolutely “care” about the LIV break-off. The controversy and drama is entertaining and polarizing, and I’d bet the views and clicks it’s getting would support it’s not simply the media giving this attention but the fans as well.

@JamesEvans2023

2 жыл бұрын

Scott is clearly projecting with anybody he talks to about it lol, hard to be open if you already have an opinion.

The Corey Paving 4 wood into 18 at Shinnecock Hills in 1995 is the most memorable US Open shot for me.

@HynoDesignsvIII

2 жыл бұрын

He missed the putt.

Use internet audio as the call. Quality will be better than telephone.

The biggest problem with Liv Golf is no world ranking points.

I completely agree, LIV format sounds boring. 0% interest in watching

Eisen is the best...keep it up my man!

@johnperiard9594

2 жыл бұрын

Slightly bland, but not bad

@steveandersen2291

2 жыл бұрын

Best simp ?

SVP doesn't know if Fitzpatrick's shot will live in in memory 🙄 That was Sandy Lyle out of the bunker at Augusta all those years ago in the Masters at 18. Clutch. World class. Unforgettable.

@gregrizzo8054

2 жыл бұрын

You just proved his point. I've been watching golf since 1978 and that's the first time i've ever heard someone bring up the Sandy Lyle bunker shot. Clutch, yes, world class, yes, unforgettable, not so much. I suspect the Fitz bunker shot will be remembered in a similar manner.

@actuallicensedteacher1846

2 жыл бұрын

@@gregrizzo8054 Then you haven't watched closely.

@Real28

2 жыл бұрын

@@actuallicensedteacher1846 just because some people think it's an all time shot doesn't make it so. But we all know what all time shots are.

@damienkearns3654

2 жыл бұрын

@@Real28 It was a world class shot. It secured him one of 4 yearly Majors. If you don't realise the significance of that,, stop making comments. It's over your head.

US Open is the best FDay present - gets me out of so many other distractions.

Dad’s are easy, they just need to be acknowledged 😊 Bethany Beach, Delaware is a beautiful little town 😎 SVP, excellent and profound point… LIV golfers make a pot of money, but who really gives a crap about their tourney’s quality.

I've watched every minute all of it and enjoy it. It seems a little more free and fun than the pga tour

Half a head of hair between these two guys 😂

@steveandersen2291

2 жыл бұрын

Bald simps

Under no circumstances should the LIV players with a 54 hole, no cut format, accrue OWGR points. That’s a joke.

Brookline was a great course. But they should've gotten the greens up to regular speed. Them boys putt a ton of undulating greens. They would figure it out. The greenist greens ever in any US Open and just about evert putt was short and a huge let down. But it was an awesome venue and a great win.

@Real28

2 жыл бұрын

...what? There were tons of putta racing by the hole.

@4plus4equalsmoo

2 жыл бұрын

Greens were running 12-13

@titleist7624

2 жыл бұрын

It rained before the final round. Not every course has a Sub Air system.

Played golf watched golf, ate steak. Perfect fathers day....

Tell me how paying players 100,200 million contracts up front before any golf is played makes this a positive competitive environment. Mark my word, pro golf is going to tank and you will never see competitive top players competing against each other again with this much money involved if this succeeds.

@rkid727

2 жыл бұрын

They said the same thing about the NFL/AFL.

@williamgreen9865

2 жыл бұрын

@@rkid727 those are team sports, plus the money was not their at first, Money is ruining sports. Players play four 2 things, money or competitive/winning. You are seeing the money guys. The LIV tour will be a inferior product because of the money, and LIV is run by a bunch off criminals.

@rkid727

2 жыл бұрын

@@williamgreen9865 might want to check PGA some sponsors and see where their money comes from before you just talk about the Saudis. Money’s been growing and growing for decades. All I’m saying is when they get a TV deal, they won’t be stopped. It’ll basically be PGA guys flipping, JT and Rory will be left behind. They’ll get together for the majors and that’ll be it. Honestly, we only care about The Players, The Majors, Ryder Cup, and maybe the FedEx.

@williamgreen9865

2 жыл бұрын

Obviously you think players being paid hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars is going to produce top quality golf, especially at the 4 bankrupt Trump Criminal Golf courses this year. Golf will never be competitive again, will not be watchable,, therefore no they will not get a lasting tv contract.

@rkid727

2 жыл бұрын

@@williamgreen9865 study history. It’s what they all say. All they need is drama to draw ratings. Nothing lasts forever. NFL has rainbows in their end zones and commercials now. Never thought I’d see that. Everything changes. It’s inevitable.

Espn fucjed up by taking scott off major coverages with Andy North. Show was great.

Guys the Country Club has held four majors + a Ryder!

SVP does a lot of good sports but not a big fan of SVP doing golf broadcasts.

These guys who went to LIV are fooling themselves if they think they can play 8-10 events a year and just show up at a Major and win. I'm not saying you have to play 30-40 events, but practice rounds don't get you prepared.

I am REALLY glad the PGA now has competition. Maybe they will start treating players better.

@Tom-ok2rh

2 жыл бұрын

Who are they competing against? Golf is a separate sport just like all the other ones. Does the NFL need another rival league? How about Major League Baseball or the NBA? Any other rival leagues usually dilutes the end product golf is no exception.

@paul91773

2 жыл бұрын

@@Tom-ok2rh they are competing against the monopoly that is the PGA. Even if LIV doesn't last, maybe it will help the PGA to take better care of the lower level players, not just the elite ones.

@Tom-ok2rh

2 жыл бұрын

@@paul91773 How is the tour treatment for the elites any different? The more you win the more you become elite. The only thing they could do which would not challenge any of the status quo too much would be possibly changing the payout structure. I believe if you have entered the tournament and you play for two days, bring out the fans, and unfortunately do not make the cut then they should pay the players something. What that amount is is for the players advisory board to decide but it would at least help out those players who are struggling with their games.

@robm9581

2 жыл бұрын

treating them better lol; even the bottom pga guy makes more then the ave joe and he is playing a game; golf is unique in that u get payed for performance or u dont; but the treatment is better than the guy most of us work for lol

@Barneyrubble241

2 жыл бұрын

Oh, poor widdle pro golfers?? I'm getting weepy for them?? Why would you feel sorry for ANYBODY playing pro golf for a living at ANY level?? That's utterly & completely fucking ridiculous.

Love Scott Van Pelt.

guys winning a bunch of money won't be a conversation starter long term, agree with scott there. however, the team concept is basically the same as college or high school, not hard to understand. whether it will be cool or not with a new draft/team every tourney is TBD. the 54 hole shotgun is actually pretty great from a level playing field perspective. everyone gets the course in the same conditions. stark contrast to the PGA where basically every tourney is won by the guy who had the slightly easier draw (unless there was a runaway winner).

I saw SVP at my kids Little League Game .... He was just chillin and eatin' a Hot Dog with a Draft Beer ..... Crazy right @_@

@steveandersen2291

2 жыл бұрын

Just a simp

Skip to @7:30 for LIV commentary

I got three half eaten bags of gummy bears for Father’s Day.

Presidents Cup = 100% money generating team event that inherently means nothing. There, I just explained the LIV Golf team concept. Maybe the LIV Golf tour will succeed, maybe not, but nobody knows. The Phoenix Open has succeeded, and prospered, because of drunken college students gathering at the 16th hole. Who saw that coming?

Brookline has had Majors and Ryder Cups . !988 U S Open your ESPN golf partner Curtis Strange won that year.

Without TV rights, it does not matter!

I have no argument with the LIV tour. However, the production and announcers seem weak to me. When the LIV hires top notch announcers and production people that will draw eyes and ears.

I disagree with Scott. My personal view is that the Masters will want to get involved. They won't appreciate that amateurs who have stayed in the Crows Nest have now been manipulated and used as pawns by LIV. Greg Norman has admitted that using lesser named players as a way of enticing bigger stars is part of the LIV strategy.

@terrancehall9762

2 жыл бұрын

Doubt it. They don't want the controversy

@jvjustvibes9103

2 жыл бұрын

The masters doesn’t want the controversy

@DJB6969

2 жыл бұрын

Why would they want a weaker field by removing some of the top players? Like SVP said, 5 former Masters champions. Also I think the amateurs your talking about just want to get paid, unlike now how the pga tour makes them pay all their expenses which puts them in debt. The pga tour is the only sports association that makes their players sign a contract while also not paying them!

@A-A-Ron17

2 жыл бұрын

I wish that were the case but the Majors generate the vast majority of their revenue off one tournament a year. I’m sure they’d like to be able to take a strong stance with the PGA, but it’s not their fight and they’ve got to do what’s best for their organizations as individual courses and events.

@giii7599

2 жыл бұрын

The PGA Tour has 23 sponsors doing 40 billion worth of business in Saudi Arabia and nobody will say a word about the PGA Tour. They also do business in China. People like you are the problem. Defending the PGA Tour. What a joke. The MONEY is the reason they left. Not Norman. There is nothing wrong with the Liv Tour.

Regarding LIV becoming boring because a no-name won a random tournament, that’s exactly what some of the dud PGA events are. You never know who’s going to show up at a PGA event which makes some of the events hopelessly boring. They need to find a way to require these professional athletes to play 10-12 (if not more) events, not just the 4 majors.

@fred5727

2 жыл бұрын

As I understand it, the PGA Tour requires its players to participate in at least 15 tournaments each year. There is no such requirement for their participation in majors, given that players must quality to participate in them.

@DrTimWhatleyDDS

2 жыл бұрын

I think you’re right. But, why can’t golf get the same field at more tournaments. Pro baseball, basketball, hockey players are required to show up at certain events. Why do golfers get to make their own schedule?

@robm9581

2 жыл бұрын

@@DrTimWhatleyDDS because every other sport has paid contracts with schedules; playoffs etc; golf u play good or no money

@DrTimWhatleyDDS

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, I’m questioning whether that’s the right model. Paid contracts for certain players might be a better path. You have to play well to keep your spot in other sports, nothing is guaranteed.

@fred5727

2 жыл бұрын

@@DrTimWhatleyDDS I think the players are regarded as "independent contractors" in the tax code. As such, once they have qualified to be PGA Tour members, they are required to participate in the minimum amount of events and to submit their entry fee for each event.The entry fee is nominal, but all other expenses (borne by the player) can get hefty quickly (travel, hotel, food, caddy, etc).

I grew up with this story line from Professional Wrestling. Hogan going to the dark side. Are you WCW? Or NWO? Phil broke our hearts like Hogan did….by dying his beard black.

@robm9581

2 жыл бұрын

lol pro wrestling is a show; extremely good atheletes but a show; nobody in pro wrestling took blood money from the saudis

I didn't realize the US Open happened this past weekend...

I watched 5min of the LIV broadcast and almost threw up over how bad their graphics package was. It looked like a 12yr old designed it. Took up a 3rd of the screen. But there's no interest from me for it. No one in it is worth watching and the setup/design is boring. It's an exhibition that fails to do what exhibitions are meant to do. 13:32 LOLOL I said all of this before Rich talked about the graphics. That's hilarious.

@steveandersen2291

2 жыл бұрын

So, funny.

ive never heard golfers yelling " fore" so much .

I'd like someone to ask these LIV golfers if they would support a women's LIV tour. Then, when these men golfers balk at the answer, get the responses of their wives and girlfriends.

@geraldpulido5540

2 жыл бұрын

Why would they care they're no paying them besides dont the Saudis hate women haha

@lakeozarkrei3767

2 жыл бұрын

👍😅

@murrayspiffy2815

2 жыл бұрын

Your logic is too fuzzy - couldn't follow the cognitive thought. Why would they care?

@adee1626

2 жыл бұрын

Who gives a dam about your feminist views bud? You think a guy who’s getting 100 million from the saudis gives a dam about that. This moral superiority attitude needs to stop. The president is going there to beg for oil ,will he ask about womens right??

@robm9581

2 жыл бұрын

@@adee1626 lol beg for oil; no he is telling them; and no he wont bring up human rights issues but i bet he does bring up the murder of an american citizen

Sure the stroke out of the 18th bunker was good. But he had a good lie, his stance seemed ok, it was only 163 yards, he hit a nine iron. What did we expect from a top 25 player in the world. A 5 handicapper could have hit the green from that lie, that stance that club. It wasn't super difficult. Made a mockery of Azinger's comments so I was happy about that.

@DJB6969

2 жыл бұрын

Ok hardo.. essentially everyone minus a small handful shot over par that day. Whether the camera wasn’t picking up how nasty the greens are, or the wind, or whatever. You thinking a 5 handicap could end up there is hilarious. You’re probably the same golfer that takes gimmes and no one can stand to play with lol

Tron Carter hates this guy

Liv Tour- dramatic , nail biting drama that I can’t get enough of. If you add in Greg Norman and MBS what’s not to like?

@A-A-Ron17

2 жыл бұрын

Agree completely. Throw in the real-life question of “how much money would it take for you to (insert something considered detestable)?” being played out in front of the whole world and its movie theatre, extra large bucket of popcorn worthy.

i found the LIV event interesting but i am a fan of golf. i don't care who's playing. coverage was good liked that we got to see the new young guys not just the knowns. the commentators are tops like the euro tour guys. different courses. especially nice there was no chamblee or lynch blowin.

@AN-hv1vm

2 жыл бұрын

"especially nice there was no chamblee" - that's definitely a positive

Stop complaining. Boxing has the IBF, WBA, WBO and the WBC which are all sanctioned bodies. They have lineal and unified champions. Imagine if one day we see a Unified or Undisputed Champion across the PGA, LIV and others. Can't wait for that day. Hey PGA, Make Way!

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Actual competitive tournament golf is just better than exhibition golf (think AllStar game vs. championship game) but LIV will win in the end. The top 30 golfers in the world make less than $20 million a year, some far less, and LIV is offering that level golfer (Dustin Johnson) $150 million contracts. If I’m Jon Rahm and I know it’ll take me more than 20 years to match that money (assuming I remain a top 30 golfer for 20 years!!) I sign tomorrow.

@jz4461

2 жыл бұрын

That's a lie. Scottie Scheffler and Rory McIlroy have won over $20 million so far this year, excluding endorsements.

@billalger6577

2 жыл бұрын

Greed will not prevail. Ask China and Nike, for example.

The problem also is no one will be paying attention to the pga tour either because all of the good players aren’t there anymore

@A-A-Ron17

2 жыл бұрын

Not true. DJ is the only LIV player in the top 20 at #15. Ancer would make the 2nd at #20. There’s big names, but they’re all past their prime or haven’t played well for one reason or another for some time.

The lip wasnt in the way.. the ball was sittin up in the sand. Enoigh bologna. Evem though the leaderboard had supposed major wimners, it was terribly boring.

Brooksy 😂

He couldn't be more wrong about LIV Golf. LIV is the golfers golf league. It's at its infancy but I feel like people are going to be surprised in 5 years time.

I live by Pumpkin Ridge - I won't pay $80 a day - but I would go for free.

Rich Eisen is an old man not open to change. Water golf down? Let a player decide what they want to do. Let the PGA watch while they don’t change. Now Koepka, pretty soon PGA employees start to move. Its a matter of time that this league becomes sooooo attractive to the better players that competition will rise and people will watch.

@steveandersen2291

2 жыл бұрын

Oid simp

I've just discover this guy -- since LIV started --- and he's a real pain in the buttocks.

Van Pelt showing a ton of ignorance regarding who is watching. PGA has their head up you know where...

I enjoy watching majors and the Ryder cup. Other than that I’m not watching golf period. As many others have said, it does seem odd that golfers get the brunt of anti-Saudi sentiment. How many nations or corporations have taken “principled” stands and refused to do business with the Saudis?

Do do not think it was a big thing in the USA. But around the world it was big

Of course we’re not consuming it. When they land a TV deal, you think people aren’t going to watch? They said the same thing about the AFL. Then they got a TV deal and I grew and grew and a merger happened. Eventually they’ll do a Ryder Cup like event. Brooks and Bryson will be captains. Lol

@lakeozarkrei3767

2 жыл бұрын

Watch an exhibition where there's 48 players.... 8 break par and you have several +23 & +24 scores???🤢🤣

@rkid727

2 жыл бұрын

@@lakeozarkrei3767 it’s just getting started. If they keep stealing these players like Brooks and Ancer, those scores are going down. Watch what happens tomorrow. They’re announcing two more players. Brooks just removed PGA from his social media. Like him or not, that’s a name.

@A-A-Ron17

2 жыл бұрын

Pretty sure SVP was asking if fans care about the coverage of the split as much as the media, not if fans care about LIV as a sporting league. But RE kinda cut him off before he could clarify

I have never been a Greg Norman fan. I didn't like how he twisted the PGA Tour back in the 1980's to be an "International Tour". We need the PGA Tour for Americans and the European Tour for Europeans. The situation is even worse with the LPGA. I am not watching Miss Korea win every week. That's just un-American.

@A-A-Ron17

2 жыл бұрын

You know he’s Australian, right?

This is capitalism fellas. Get used to it.

Golf is not only the PGA.

You can't blame guys for taking 9 figures to play golf though. Every single person alive would take a job if they offered you 50x the money you're making right now.

LIV golf will survive and start to thrive as long as the saudis keep throwing gobs of money at it...54 hole shotgun start is a joke...Might as well make it a 2 man scramble with names drawn out of a hat..LIV is here folks until the saudis get bored with it...Accept it..

Wan wan wan! Bunch of cry babies! 😭

@steveandersen2291

2 жыл бұрын

Simps 😢

Players care about money & majors. The latter are all played during the football off-season and they will get money even if TV networks in USA won't show LIV. Besides streaming is supposed to be the new black so TV approval is no longer neccesary?

Two things…. 1) nobody cares about PGA Tour events as fans. The anti LIV people are holding it to the standard of a Major. Not a fair comparison. Is there more interest in LIV compared to some mid tier tour event? Absolutely. 2) You need to look beyond American shores for comparisons. Difficult I know. But cricket had this exact thing happen between 77 and 79. Tore the game apart. Now? Stronger than its ever been. Two formats coexist in the same ecosystem and makes everybody money. To a lesser extent, same thing happened in Rugby League in Australia, again 25 years later and the game is the strongest it’s ever been. Both rocked their respective sports to their cores, compromises were worked out and a path forward let to exponential growth. I’m sure golf will be fine.

LIV, the pro gay tour.

@terrancehall9762

2 жыл бұрын

You think the pga is?