I always liked Garak's take on the lesson of the fable of the boy who cried wolf: "Never tell the same lie twice."

@CatherinePuce

2 жыл бұрын

True but Garak always seem to hide a metaphor or a hidden true in his stories. You learn about him by looking how he lie. And he definitively like eating with Bashir. This at least was obvious.

@ApocalypseNext

Жыл бұрын

Yes, but he said that after literally bombing his own shop because he's such a well-known liar that no one would believe him if he just said, "there's an assassin after me." He possibly said it out of annoyance that Bashir might have a point.

@migrivp2672

Жыл бұрын

@@ApocalypseNext to be fair if he would have just said it as a question like "I think someone is trying to kill me, could you verify that for me" instead of blow up is shop or just saying it, that would have work, that not a lie as its a question and a question that even Sisco wouldn't ignore out of curiosity

@ironcito1101

Жыл бұрын

Telling different lies will still give you a reputation for being a liar, and people won't believe you, even when you tell the truth.

@MediumRareOpinions

Жыл бұрын

The true lesson of the fable is that you should not appoint people you distrust to a position of responsibility. The child dies and the flock is lost because the moronic adults left him in charge of the livestock after having decided they wouldn't respond to the call for help he is specifically tasked to give in response to wolves.

Garak: "I brought you something" Bashir: "what is it?" Garak: "Subtle foreshadowing"

@eloscuro7

5 жыл бұрын

Looks fake to me.

@TheCormTube

5 жыл бұрын

@@eloscuro7 FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAKKKEEE!

@eviljesus84

5 жыл бұрын

to quote ambassador Vreenak: "It's a FAAAAAKE!"

@MinscFromBaldursGate92

5 жыл бұрын

Jaina eating popcorn profile pic.

@GhostLink92

5 жыл бұрын

ITS REAL!

Garak has a score of 20 in Charisma.

@Malroth00Returns

5 жыл бұрын

before level up bonuses, gear, circumstance modifiers and the +6 inherent bonus he got from outfoxing an Ifreet into giving him wishes.

@AvroBellow

5 жыл бұрын

With a +2 magical gaze. LOL

@Azriel637

5 жыл бұрын

20 charisma, expertise in deception, and a Ring(Legendary) with a permanent Glibness effect.

@aredub1847

5 жыл бұрын

his score is just "yes"

@MorfsPrower

4 жыл бұрын

It really seems like he stretches that 20 so far until not even the bonus can help him with his outlandish inquiries. I think he wants to get past that 20 cap somehow.

"Especially the lies!" 'Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.' -Oscar Wilde

@r0bw00d

3 жыл бұрын

Given the outcome of the internet, I'm sure that Mr. Wilde was more right than he could ever have imagined.

@jlinkous05

3 жыл бұрын

Anon: Rule 34 on Garak Garak: You have no idea

@gene7836

3 жыл бұрын

A gay quote for a gay man💖

@robertpv6639

3 жыл бұрын

The heart at the end makes me think you may have gene's intend wrong here.

@jtqthetieman

3 жыл бұрын

@Atheos B. Sapien I like how you were bothered enough about it that you assumed the meaning of Gene's words instead of seeking confirmation.

Andrew Robinson elevates the quality of every scene he’s in.

@glentor3

Жыл бұрын

He deserves about a dozen Emmy’s.

@LancerJak

Жыл бұрын

If there was any more proof why DS9 was the best show, Garak, Nog and Kai Wynn are side characters. Every time they are on screen they steal the screen every time.

@glenngriffon8032

Жыл бұрын

He's in Pumpkinhead II. He's the only reason to watch Pumpkinhead II.

@kevinwatson4981

Жыл бұрын

@@LancerJak Can confirm, especially Nogs arc

@scush

Жыл бұрын

@@LancerJak yeah, it’s crazy. they do so much with everyone - you can absolutely tell the writers gave a shit about every single character and making their relationships to each other and the world around them make sense and progress throughout the seven seasons. it’s just so good.

As later quoted "Me, I'm dishonest. And a dishonest man you can always trust to be dishonest."

@Afterburner215

4 жыл бұрын

Honestly!

@nicholaspokorny5058

3 жыл бұрын

Honestly, it's the honest men you have to watch out for, because you never know when they're going to do something incredibly stupid.

@williamchamberlain2263

3 жыл бұрын

Love the way he's always overtly lying, even when he might be telling the truth

@AsianShadowrunner

2 жыл бұрын

Jack Sparrow would agree.

@logandarklighter

Жыл бұрын

Imagine a version of Jack Sparrow as a space pirate. Free booting and plundering in the wild triangle between the Federation, Romulan, and Klingon Empire borders. Imagine An encounter between Garak and Jack at Quark’s bar. Would they hit it off famously? Or immediately distrust each other? Or... BOTH!! 🤣🤣🤣

I think that's my favourite bit of Garak dialogue in the entire series. "Even the lies?" "ESPECIALLY the lies." God, he's such a well-written character and Andrew Robinson's performance is just...perfect.

@Justforvisit

Жыл бұрын

And it's the only time ever where he told the 100% unmasked truth :D

@drew7564

10 ай бұрын

People don’t remember him as the bad guy in the first Dirty Harry movie!

"Couldn't stand being cooped up in that infirmary..." - laying the groundwork for claustrophobia and season 5.

@Jokie155

4 жыл бұрын

That strikes me as odd, because the DS9 infirmary is probably the most open out of them all. The doors are almost always left wide open.

@KuraIthys

4 жыл бұрын

@@Jokie155 Claustrophobia is by definition not rational, so expecting it to follow rational logic is not either. I have extremely mild claustrophobia, and I've at times had more trouble with larger spaces I wasn't able to leave, than actual small spaces... I'd say it's mostly about the sensation of feeling trapped than the actual amount of space... Put me in a fairly large elevator and I'm more likely to have a problem than if I'm stuck in a cramped closet... It's just not that simple...

@Milamberinx

3 жыл бұрын

​@@key539 that's a new one to me, thanks! I have a dislike for being in places where I'm not able to move freely, like if I can't move my feet or legs, or if I can't turn my head. Caving (or potholing, or spelunking) is definitely not for me. It's not a fear, but I feel like it could become one given some bad circumstances.

@windhelmguard5295

2 жыл бұрын

@@Milamberinx phobias usually come from a need to have control. someone with claustrophobia doesn't really hate tight places as much as they hate places they can't leave at their leisure, on the stairs you can turn around, choose which side you climb on etc. you have complete control over the situation, on an elevator you're stuck in there until the machine decides to let you out and not being able to go: "I am leaving NOW!" is scary to some people. i have a similar thing, i rarely drive to a party or something with other people, i will drive myself so i can leave on my own terms and if i didn't bring my own car i'll sooner walk home than to wait until the designated driver decides it's time to leave.

@bostonrailfan2427

2 жыл бұрын

@@Jokie155 the machines used for healing are claustrophobic inducing, especially for internal injuries

As someone with a secret of his own, it's no wonder Bashier and Garak got along so perfect.

@raven4k998

2 жыл бұрын

bashier see garak has secrets to hide just he has so they have something in common that's what made there friendship work so well each has his lies to hide secrets

@maneesh77

Жыл бұрын

In non cannon they got married. Even the actors did a reading of a script you can youtube. The actors wanted the characters to head that way in the show but it was the 90's and the producers were like NOPE.

@Grimmers

Жыл бұрын

​@@maneesh77 Good because that sounds like absolutely awful tumblr-tier fanfiction. We don't need to turn every male friendship into a slash romance.

@maneesh77

Жыл бұрын

@@Grimmers True, not every close historical friendship between same sex folks needs to be reexamined through "Sappho and Erinna" lenses. But in this case, the actors DID approach the characters as two people flirting and stuff. So it's not a retcon for them to be married in a fan fic but an "un erasure".

@Tabrias07

Жыл бұрын

no one who matters cares if you're gay

Garak, by far the best [edit: regularly recurring] non-main cast character in all iterations of Star Trek.

@martuni1539

4 жыл бұрын

Q

@jerodast

4 жыл бұрын

Nog is close! Like, Garak is best non-main cast, Nog is more "oh I thought he was main cast" haha.

@MichaelJohnson-kq7qg

4 жыл бұрын

How is Garak not main cast? DS9 is basically Garak's redemption story that they let some other space stuff happen in.

@lthomasm8584

4 жыл бұрын

Martin gotta agree

@IsilmeTuruphant

4 жыл бұрын

@@MichaelJohnson-kq7qg He didn't start out main cast, I agree, but definitely by the time the Dominion War began he was THE Cardassian angle, and thus immensely important as Gul Dukat shifted from Rival to pure Antagonist. And in the end it wasn't just Garak's redemption, but how that journey was echoed by Cardassia itself. That was always a strength of Star Trek as a series, was how sometimes minor, background characters could shift to the forefront. Sometimes (Like Garak) they even stayed there.

I just noticed that while Siddig always looks straight at whatever he's focused on, Robinson keeps looking to either side. While it comes across as casual, and it could easily be a personal quirk of the actor, I can't help but think that he's playing Garak as always slightly on the alert for an attack.

@winstonelston5743

5 жыл бұрын

He constantly scans his surroundings. It could be a deliberate affectation to give the appearance of a hunted character, or it could be that Robinson is actually paranoid and doing it unconsciously.

@HikariTheGardevoir

5 жыл бұрын

Could be both! In the series 'The Blacklist', James Spader always tilts his head when he talks. I thought this was a quirk of his character who is quite like Garak, always telling the wildest stories with a smile on his face and you're never certain whether he's telling the truth. But then I saw a short clip of James Spader in 'Boston Legal' and he tilted his head in the exact same way when he spoke.

@elimgarak7090

5 жыл бұрын

To make sure no one else is listening in. Knowing you're a spy yourself makes you more aware of who else may be.

@galactic85

4 жыл бұрын

Wow I never noticed that. Good catch.

@jims974

4 жыл бұрын

I've been lucky to meet Andrew Robinson twice and he always looked straight at me... 😅 The sideways eyes are what is known in the trade as good acting. Good spot though 👍

I brought you something... the scripts to Season 4. It takes place in the future, when Cardassia and the Klingon Empire are at war!

@ssjwes

8 жыл бұрын

+smartalec2001 haha

@austinboylan5476

6 жыл бұрын

Who wins?

@Jarsia

6 жыл бұрын

Austin Boylan garak "Well let me just say it certainly surprised me"

@meris8486

6 жыл бұрын

Garak: "I brought you something" Bashir: "what is it?" Garak: "Subtle foreshadowing"

@GmodPlusWoW

6 жыл бұрын

The foreshadowing!

I love how much effort DS9 put into making the random extras walking through the background look freaking awesome. Nearly every episode has at least one spectacular costume or prosthetics job in it, from a character with no lines who didn't need to be there at all. And this was a show with constant budget cuts!

@chironOwlglass

3 жыл бұрын

Every single person involved in making DS9 was incredible at their job.

@kleioslibrary5451

2 жыл бұрын

Star Trek, the "what cool alien costume do we have legal rights to and how much are we allowed to pay someone to wear it for ten minutes?" franchise of the film industry. I have seen Slestaks from Land of the Lost, Dracs from Enemy Mine, New Comers from Alien Nation and I know there a tons I am missing because I have never seen the shows or movies.

@ScottStruzik

Жыл бұрын

Imagine sitting in the makeup chair for hours and then only getting paid daily rate for an extra, LOL. I do love all the detail on the show.

@ZakhadWOW

Жыл бұрын

HAHAHAHA Babylon 5 was pushing out it's brilliance with about a 1/4 of the budget. Majel Roddenberry herself stated that, and pointed out the brilliance of what they were doing with such limited resources.

@michaelfinlay6341

10 ай бұрын

Morn was the main character in an episode and he was barely in it. Him and his blabber mouth, and beating Worf on the holosuite. Fracking Morn. That guy....

"Especially the lies," says that you can learn more about who Garak is by his lies than by the truth you might learn of him. Beautiful scene. I could watch this episode a dozen times just for the Bashir & Garak scenes. They're delightful.

@raven4k998

2 жыл бұрын

there is truth in lies if you know how to read it

@Locutus

2 жыл бұрын

Why not watch it a dozen times? Nothing stopping you from doing so. Watch it once a week, and in 3 months, you would have watched it a dozen times.

@woodysmith2681

10 ай бұрын

LIES are told for a reason, which tells you something. People tell the truth is they don't have a reason to lie. Thus, the lies tell you more than the truth. However, Garak lies casually about almost everything, so that you can't pick out any one lie to ascertain a motive behind it.

@cjackmond

8 ай бұрын

I always loved their conversations, but felt that Dr Bashir was a bit out of his depth with Garak. Dr Bashir was very smart, but not terribly worldly or attuned to certain nuances and subtleties that Garak considered normal conversation.

Garak's entire character summed up in 2 sentences.

We never do find out how is the spiced pudding!

@alanfrost75

8 жыл бұрын

I know! No matter how unhappy or worried you are, you ALWAYS try the freaking pudding!

@Deadpool_64

6 жыл бұрын

westtxtapper I still lie awake at night wondering how it was.

@Raguleader

6 жыл бұрын

I'm just saying, no matter what people think about Star Trek Discovery, the writers on that show would have made sure we knew how the pudding was.

@jeffborowiak8992

5 жыл бұрын

We may never know.

@Nathan_H1gg3rz

5 жыл бұрын

would just be a lie anyway

Why is Alexander Siddig on Game of Thrones, but not Andrew Robinson? Can you imagine Garak in Westeros? He'd have the Iron Throne before you can say "Winter is Coming"!

@bcn1gh7h4wk

8 жыл бұрын

+TomTheFounder we''ll have to settle with Varys... he's probably the closest thing.

@williamjameslehy1341

8 жыл бұрын

I've thought the same thing. I honestly think DS9 was a forerunner of shows like Game of Thrones, with all the series-spanning stories, intrigue within intrigue, sympathetic villains, heroes who have to do very bad things, and characters like Garak who you're never sure where to place on the spectrum.

@JnEricsonx

7 жыл бұрын

Garak would find the Stark's endearing but frustrating due to their nobility, would get along well with Tyrion but the rest of his family would drive him nuts and Dany....he'd be very careful around Dany.

@williamcostigan91

7 жыл бұрын

Well the good doctor sadly didn't last long, Medical emergency in holosuite 1.

@novat9731

7 жыл бұрын

Game of thrones can't even stand in the shadow of DS9. The earlier seasons had some merit and interesting plots, great television. 4 was decent, but 5 and 6 is outright terrible.

Ah Garak. Never tell the truth, when a lie will do. That man has a rare gift for obfuscation.

@clrobertson13

3 жыл бұрын

One of my favorite lines in all of Star Trek!

@saralauro2312

3 жыл бұрын

Like The Joker..

@marocat4749

2 жыл бұрын

He is somehow blunt and obscure at the same time,.

he smiled when he said it, but “especially the lies” actually points to his deep seated guilt and confused loyalties. elim being a friend turned enemy was a lie, but it was also very true.

@robertpatter5509

Жыл бұрын

Think of Elim as a part of Garek. Garek is the separate part from within Elim. Now it makes sense. He's conflicted. Fighting with himself as to who he is. Elim is the more cutthroat personality. Garek is the tailor. It's like saying I killed Bob to save Robert. You would think those are separate people, but no. They are the one and the same. Killing off a personality. Anakin being murdered by Darth Vader.

I love the relationship and witty back and forth between Garak and Bashir.

@winstonelston5743

5 жыл бұрын

Garak bantered wittily with all the characters, with subtlety and many layers of meaning, and all with that wry smile in his voice.

@AnthonySmith-wc8ky

4 жыл бұрын

Captain Sisko : Who's watching Tolar? Garak : I've locked him in his quarters. I've also left him with the distinct impression that if he attempts to force the door open, it may explode. Captain Sisko : I hope that's just an impression. Garak : It's best not to dwell on such minutiae.

@TheWyldehart

3 жыл бұрын

The relationship between them is the reason Andy Robinson got the part. Apparently, the writers had no idea what to do with Bashir, who was young, idealistic, naive and getting lost in the episodes. Siddig said that Rick Berman was constantly having to vouch for his continued existence on the show to producers. So they decided that Bashir needed a companion and made Robinson come out to audition (an audition he almost blew off because they made him endure 3 previous auditions for Odo before choosing Rene Aubergonois for the part.) His wife essentially forced him out the door because he needed a job and he did the audition with such charisma that I don't think they even auditioned anyone else. He was expecting to do one, maybe two episodes. The idea was to see if they clicked, if the chemistry was there. That very first scene, Robinson played up Garak's open attraction to Bashir and once said, "...there's this scene where you'd swear that Garak was ready to eat him." Both actors were game for a same-sex interspecies romance between the two, something the show creators were loath to do. So Andy toned down Garak's sexual attraction to Bashir (slightly) and insisted on keeping Garak to be sexually ambiguous and interested in pretty much any attractive bipedal person with humanoid features. Ultimately, it was this remarkable chemistry between them and the love the writers had for Garak that kept him in the series for its entire run. The Wire remains Andy's favorite episode and he has remarked throughout his career that it truly is the best acting he has ever done, before or since.

@Zveebo

3 жыл бұрын

I always think it was a pity that Andrew Robinson was ordered by Paramount to stop having Garek flirt with Bashir as he originally was doing - always made sense to explain why Garek particularly enjoyed spending time with Bashir. They had great chemistry regardless!

@dayalasingh5853

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheWyldehart man I wish the romance did happen, I'd want the the two of them to appear in Picard but knowing that show they'd kill the two of them. Though there is always lower decks.

"Who wins" "What do you think" "Don't tell me, I don't want you to spoil the ending" C'mon Bashir, like Earth literature isn't full of that exact same thing, don't be that guy

@matthewjones2095

3 жыл бұрын

Bashir is the type that even in optimistic world seems nieve

@kleioslibrary5451

2 жыл бұрын

Very true, but it goes in cycles. Some generations the author's culture / society / government wins and then a generation or two later they lose and a generation after that the winner is inevitable because it's all about the "friends we made along the way" and a generation after that the author's side wins again. Based off what Jake writes when the Muses messes with him, I am getting Start Trek DS9 takes place is Phase 3 of the writing cycle.

@katarishigusimokirochepona6611

Жыл бұрын

@@matthewjones2095 Best summary of Bashir ever!

As much as I love Garak. I would never listen to an audio gift from him. Could easily end up being subliminal messages.

@Rikard_A

7 жыл бұрын

A bomb isn't sophisticated enought, for Garak.

@U9B

7 жыл бұрын

How foolish. He is giving him information and as another youtuber said "Garak's diary is hidden in all the books he's given him."

@Rensune

7 жыл бұрын

U9B Ah thank you

@chapmasi

6 жыл бұрын

Hahahahaha as a Trekkie, this the best KZread comment I've read this week. I tip my hat to you sir :)

@Beavereaver

5 жыл бұрын

Hahahahah

I could easily see Garak being the type who, upon meeting you the first time, compliments you on your taste in clothes, offers you a discount at his shop just to get your business, and then, still smiling and hail fellow well met, looks you straight in the eye and says (and it's impossible to tell if he's joking or being dead serious) "Oh by the way, in case it ever comes up. You shouldn't ever trust me." :D

@Shockszzbyyous

6 жыл бұрын

logandarklighter i imagine the face as he tells it :D

@MasteringJohn

6 жыл бұрын

I imagine he and Book Littlefinger would get along famously...while secretly plotting against each other.

@WobblesandBean

3 жыл бұрын

Garak would never say such a thing outright. He knows he doesn't ever have to. If you're even remotely worth his respect and intrigue, you'd already know that the moment you laid eyes on him.

@wrickmitra

2 жыл бұрын

Hahaha! Excellent!

@RobertWilke

Жыл бұрын

@@MasteringJohn Get along may be a stretch, I could see them being very cordial to the point a light banter. Don't let that fool you though. Behind that veneer are two master manipulators looking for an advantage.

The fact is he give Bashir secret intel about the first step to destabylizing process which would end in Dominion War is masterpiece

I always loved Garak. He was the most enigmatic character to step foot on DS9. I also loved Gul Dukat. These two were in my opinion the best Cardassians.

@RobertWilke

Жыл бұрын

Their characters were put to good use to expose what it was like to be a Cardassian. A society that had seen and was still in many ways very hard times. That had been molded into the State they were currently in. One of projecting strength at all costs with Dukat. Having a duplicitous backstabbing culture just to survive that represents what Garak does. Though knowing from the way Garak romanticizes Cardassia that it wasn't always this way. It brings meaning as to how they are now.

I love when Tain says "Garak always had a rare gift for obfuscation."

@GestapoPussyRanch

4 жыл бұрын

Like being told you have a rare gift for hockey by Wayne Gretzky.

@ai6894

3 жыл бұрын

@@GestapoPussyRanch or in this case, told by Walter Gretzky, his dad.

@jefftappan2803

3 жыл бұрын

We all obfuscate, because we think that we have something to gIn.

Every episode with Garak was pure gold.Guy who played him is really underrated actor.

@Bjorick

3 жыл бұрын

don't know the guy's name, but you know he's underrated? why not just say amazing or excellent, it makes sense to your point......underrated means taht you're aware of his performances, his history, and the general response or reception he's received based on those factors.....which you clearly aren't

@WobblesandBean

3 жыл бұрын

@@Bjorick Jeez dude, why are you being such a jerk? You clearly don't know his name, either, so don't pull that smarmy, holier than thou act. By the way, his name is Andrew Robinson. I bet dollars to donuts you had to Google that, too. Garak is brilliantly played, and yes, Robinson certainly is underrated.

@Bjorick

3 жыл бұрын

@@WobblesandBean actually, i'm a fairly big fan of the people in the series, such as armin sherman plays quark. What else was he in? Not a clue, i don't follow actors. However, my point remains, unless you've viewed his full body of work and saw how it was received, saying he's underrated doesn't apply. Saying he's amazing in the role makes much more sense.

@kdrapertrucker

3 жыл бұрын

Andrew Robinson. He played the Scorpio killer in the first Dirty Harry movie.

@kayleighbrown459

3 жыл бұрын

@@Bjorick That's possibly the most pedantic thing I've ever read

Love the chemistry between those two

Garak is the best damn character on DS9 if not all of Trek!

@adamfrisk956

7 жыл бұрын

He's the Q of DS9

@LordBruuh

6 жыл бұрын

yeah he is a fantastic character. I can't stand people who claim to be star trek fans and say "DS9 isn't real trek"

@russellflemister393

6 жыл бұрын

i loved ds9

@Kalidor187

6 жыл бұрын

I think DS9 represents a different kind of trek- an ideological trek. While all Star Trek series include elements of these treks (particularly when and when not to violate the Prime Directive), DS9 has multiple treks woven throughout the series. Each character has their own journey (trek), be it spiritual, political, etc. The show has always been a journey of the mind.

@sarahkinsey5434

5 жыл бұрын

Jesse Spence oooh that's good, I never thought of DS9 like that!

Garak was my absolute favorite character in all of the Star Trek shows, and Andrew Robinson was, in my opinion, one of the great, if underappreciated, actors of the time. How many of you remember he was also the psycho killer in 'Dirty Harry'?

@joermnyc

3 жыл бұрын

And he hated how it typecast him for years as everyone wanted him to play the crazed killer. Of course then ds9 came along... And then they did that episode on Empok Nor where Garak was exposed to drugs that made him a crazed killer.

@Bundy72

2 жыл бұрын

When I saw Garak for the first time in DS9, very quick I recknognised his voice and then I realised it's Scorpio from Dirty Harry. To me one of the best characters in DS9, the best of all the Star Trek tv series.

@sawyer6264

2 жыл бұрын

I recognized him as the dad from Hellraiser

I sort of feel like Bashir was his apprentice.

@dardo1201

9 жыл бұрын

I think Garak saw him that way to be honest, I don't know if he was aware of Bashir's origins, but I think, that he found him to be one of the only humans capable/worthy of being 'brought up' in a Cardassian fashion.

@fffreddie

8 жыл бұрын

+dardo1201 As in easy to turn him into a Cardassian spy? Idealists are always an easy target.

@dardo1201

8 жыл бұрын

ese hombre Exactly, he was an idealist but also exceptionally intelligent (for a human as he would say).

@fffreddie

8 жыл бұрын

dardo1201 Yes, he always had this superior smug attitude when he delt with humans but dropped it when dealing with dictorship type worlds. It reminds me of smug Americans who look down at America but idolize the government's of foreign countries with dictorships.

@austinboylan5476

6 жыл бұрын

Blue Skeptic Odo and Quark didn’t either. Even Worf comes to respect Garak.

I can't help but giggle with glee at Garak's delivery of the title line. Argh, he's so good...

Astounding how the casting for DS9 was spot on. The actors here were phenomenal.

@chironOwlglass

3 жыл бұрын

Every single thing about DS9 was spot on. I legit did not like television until I watched DS9. I've watched it through probably 5 times now in just two years.

@WobblesandBean

3 жыл бұрын

And yet, they nearly didn't cast Andrew Robinson as Garak, but as Odo instead. Boy, wouldn't THAT have been a different show...

@rowanaforrest9792

2 жыл бұрын

@@WobblesandBean Rene and Andrew were both brilliant actors, but reversing which played whom would have been a huge mistake.

Garak is probably my favourite character from the entire Star Trek universe. Complex, mysterious and so brilliantly portrayed.

To paraphrase a wiseman: "the best lies are the ones closest to the truth."

@marocat4749

2 жыл бұрын

They ar half truths are the worst because you have the build in that fact is true t make it harder disproving them. So truths that just twist the truth instead just making stuff up, the worst or best, depending what you want.

Funny how Bashir seemed to enjoy Garak's company, despite knowing what he really was, yet at the same time he was always so combative with Sloan, who was not really so different from Garak.

@Azindath

9 жыл бұрын

***** Because Garak was sort of like a 'lost soul' to him, or an oddity from another culture. Sloan was human, of the federation...What he did and represented was like an ideological threat to everything Bashir believed in. Hit too close to home. Part of his confidence in even engaging Garak was in the smug confidence of his moral superiority. Sloan undermined all that moral superiority just by being who he was, and Bashir could never accept that. Plus, you know, Garak was fucking awesome and they had more in common than he realized.

@MichaelBlanchardII

9 жыл бұрын

Azindath I think the other reason is that Garak's spy days were behind him, and he never did genocide-level activities. Sloan was actively doing skullduggery.

@daniels7907

9 жыл бұрын

Michael Blanchard Well, when you're in a war, and the death toll is getting into the *billions*, it could just as easily be argued that would-be "idealists" are nothing more than selfish jerks who prize their own egos more than they do the lives of other people! Section 31 comes across as a *lot* less evil in DS9 than in the reboot movies at least partly because got through TNG with little evidence that they had ever done any large-scale harm to anybody, even those the Federation had fought wars with (such as the Cardassians). They mostly seemed to just counter the actions of their rival espionage agencies from the other powers. It wasn't until the Founders (who already believed in genocidal biowarfare by the way) brought an army of drug-addicted clones brainwashed into thinking they are gods into the Alpha Quadrant to conquer, or kill any who refused to be conquered, that Section 31 really had to start playing dirty on a large scale.

@MichaelBlanchardII

9 жыл бұрын

Well ignoring Enterprise (Which I do on a daily basis) I agree with you. But the measure they deemed caused by necessity were a lot more overboard. And I think a better comparison to Sloan would be Enebran Tain, as both are leaders of the respective agencies. Garak was just an agent.

@daniels7907

9 жыл бұрын

Michael Blanchard As was Sloan. We don't really see who runs Section 31. Now, while infecting Founders with a lethal disease might seem pretty hardcore. But consider that they were basically a non-mechanical version of the Borg. The Great Link was basically a collective too, albeit one where individuals could come and go rather than being permanently wired into it. But that means that the decisions made by the Founders were effectively reached by consensus. They *chose* to commit atrocities (including genocide) and the *only* crime they recognized was anyone doing harm to *them*, even if they initiated the hostilities in the first place. It was probably for that reason that the Augments' psychohistorical projections calculated that the allied powers would ultimately lose the war. They were basing their numbers on the assumption that the Federation would never compromise its ideals, and thus would never be able to beat the amoral Founders. Section 31 willing to play the game by the same rules as the Founders changed the equation entirely.

1:27 I just realized for the first time, Garaks smile cracks for just a brief second when he says he has nothing to hide

Garak is one of my favorite ST characters, because he is not a good person. But he's also not a bad person. He's just a person with one hell of a charisma score.

Everything is better with Garak!

ah that weird stage where Garak got REALLY COOL

@jerodast

6 жыл бұрын

Yes, that weird stage, they called that period "Star Trek: Deep Space 9" :P

@josephteller9715

6 жыл бұрын

Garak was the secret G'Kar of Deep Space Nine.

@HappyBeezerStudios

5 жыл бұрын

It is always the secondary charaters that develop like that. Garak, the Doctor, Shran.

Both Garak and Dukat were excellently cast. They both made the show so much richer

That line "especially the lies" sold me on Garek. Loved it whenever he was in an episode.

One of Garak's most iconic scenes, it shows some of his more charming traits.

Garak is an amazingly well-written character, ambivalent and open-ended.... good sci-fi literarure

Garak was a masterpiece of character. If ever you wanted something no questions asked this is the guy you turn to.

@john.premose

Жыл бұрын

What about Quark?

@k1productions87

Жыл бұрын

@@john.premose Quark couldn't guarantee the Romulans would join the war against the Dominion. Garak could guarantee that at the low cost of one Romulan Senator's life, one criminal's life, and one Starfleet Officer's self respect. Quite a bargain.

@pretentiousname01

8 ай бұрын

@@john.premosequark asks questions. Like what is he getting paid to do, then checks what hes doing to make sure its profitable to do. He also has a conscious. Something I do not think Garak struggles with.

Bashir / Garak conversations are always enjoyable, at the same time the DS9 fans gets to know...or at least trying to understand Garak's past.

@HappyBeezerStudios

5 жыл бұрын

Or he would believe the informations are lies woven into another story.

@jonsnor4313

5 жыл бұрын

A stich in time, and he told the truth even when he lied. A matter of perspective. Like Luke, darth vader killed your father.

I have watched this little segment many times and it never ceases to amuse me. I think Garak is my favorite DS9 character.

@hiveinsider9122

10 жыл бұрын

It would probably stop amusing me after a while but I also find Garak to be my favorite character

@cyberherbalist

Жыл бұрын

@@hiveinsider9122 - Wow, 8 years on, and I'm still coming back to this scene from time to time. Totally forgot I had made this comment, and yes, the amusement might fade if one watches the scene too many times, but I find that the occasional rewatch does not reduce the appreciation I am finding!

@Sekir80

Жыл бұрын

@@cyberherbalist Yeah, I'm a regular visitor of this scene as well. I'd suggest this channel, better visuals. kzread.info

@cyberherbalist

Жыл бұрын

@@Sekir80 -Oh, yes, I've seen this channel before! Good stuff.

1:49 - "Cardassia and the Klingon Empire are at war" - Foreshadowing

@DarthCruciare87

9 жыл бұрын

How the hell did I miss that? Good catch.

@DarthCruciare87

9 жыл бұрын

***** Who do you think?

@Ancaneon

9 жыл бұрын

The Klingons wouldn't stand a chance. The Cardassians are way too smart for them.

@Ancaneon

9 жыл бұрын

***** I've seen every single episode and every single move except the TOS series. I am a walking Star Trek encyclopedia.

@Ancaneon

9 жыл бұрын

***** I belive at this point the obsidian order was already destoyed by the romulans and the cardassian empire was in a civil war. I meant the Klingons wouldn't stand a chance if both empires were in their prime.

It starts off with a Jem Hadar -type costumed extra. Just missing a ketracel white tube.

@kevlonk

6 жыл бұрын

And then predicts the Cardassia-Klingon war. Two bits of foreshadowing in one episode!

@argonwheatbelly637

5 жыл бұрын

That's ok, in EaFP in TNG, the courtroom bailiffs sport Harkonnen tech armor, Borgish machine guns, and Ketracel cocaine tubes. Yeah, they reused early concepts over and over again, until they were completely enfleshed as the people we've grown to know.

All these years later and I still laugh at this . Greatest show ever created . Thanks Desi . Thanks Lucy .

Andrew J. Robinson is plays the sinister part so well!

@jackalope2302

6 жыл бұрын

TheCoolProfessor Its the way he smiles and his bulging, paranoid eyes.

@Hairmetallurgist

6 жыл бұрын

That laugh at 1:56 is pretty much Garak, in 5 seconds of footage...

@sarahkinsey5434

5 жыл бұрын

TheCoolProfessor his words, voice inflection, and eyes all confuse you about what to believe!

I think Bashir secretly enjoys what an an enigma Garak is. Look at that little smile at the end.

There's a very very good hidden meaning to this I think a lot of people miss garak uses his jobs and covers as a mask to his real purposes. He was a gardener and various people died. You could say he weeded them out and being a tailer. He takes the measure of people's getting to know things about them and their personal details. "Especially the lies" he's encouraging him to look past the surface of what he's saying.

@JohnWelsh-oz3jz

10 ай бұрын

Oooo! Good call!

Tain's words from a previous scene in this episode are the best description for Garak I've come across, "never tell the truth when a lie will do". Imagine trying to interrogate the guy, he'd talk non-stop for hours and confess to all sorts of things without going off-topic once and you still wouldn't find out anything useful.

Garak is such a charming scoundrel! I would like to see him in one of the reboot movies.

A book about a war between the Cardassians and the Klingons? Sounds like some foreshadowing to the events of season 4. ;-)

@HappyBeezerStudios

5 жыл бұрын

But he didn't specify how much :D

@joeyadams9237

3 жыл бұрын

Not to mention the Jem'Hadar that strolls in at the beginning of the scene. Four episodes before the Jem'Hadar are formally introduced.

This is the first revisiting this sense since my binge of the series earlier this year and the Klingon Vs Cardassian line made me spit my drink.

Garak is awesome! I hope he returns in a new series!

@Josh-ql9yu

6 жыл бұрын

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@mrtron1850

6 жыл бұрын

He's coming back in a new series called Keeping Up With the Cardassians.

@EmmanuelGoldsteinINGSOC

6 жыл бұрын

We need him on the Orville!

@jayk1203

6 жыл бұрын

MrTron Somebody get this man a cookie!

@CelesCI

6 жыл бұрын

Sadly, the Actor is already dead.

Brilliant actor, brilliant character.

Two outstanding characters and actors.

The actor who played Garak wrote a novel on the characters origin. The only star trek book I ever picked up. It was pretty good. Always loved the character.

@HHopebringer

3 жыл бұрын

It's a fascinating read. I enjoyed it as well!

@austinperry1671

2 жыл бұрын

What’s it called?

@narutoluvr9977

Жыл бұрын

@@austinperry1671 “a stitch in time” by andrew j robinson. you can’t get a copy without shelling out, but there’s an audiobook in the works right now.

Garak was one of my favorites on the show.

Garak really is a great character. One of my favorites

Masterpiece of a sci fi.

"When you lie, you lie with your own hidden truth."

"there is no such thing as an innocent question nor a valueless statement"

Appreciate the level of dedication a sci-fi show like this has from the production end, when you realize that some guy was in makeup for hours just for a 15 second-long establishing shot.

The writing for this epic show is just on another level, and it blows away today's series by miles.the actors bring so much depth to the characters and I can't get enough.

"Takes place in the future, during the time Cardassia and the Klingon Empire are at war." Well, that definitely happened.

One of my favorite episodes and this is the reason why.

well, tennyson did say "a lie which is half a truth is ever the blackest of lies".

@Bitemis

9 жыл бұрын

"A man who tells lies, like me, merely conceals the truth. But a man who tells half-lies has forgotten where he put it."

Possibly, one of the most interesting characters in the canon, rivaling Spock. One is never quite sure what he is thinking.

@marocat4749

2 жыл бұрын

An the same practically canon gay ship :P A spock has one. But thats proably more accidental.

Damn, Garak was one of best characters, he was so unusual and defied cliche expectations.

Spoiler: Garak's diary is hidden in all the books he's given him.

@U9B

7 жыл бұрын

Ingenious.

@jinnbs414

7 жыл бұрын

Actually there is a real-life book called "A Stitch in Time" wirtten by Andrew Robinson, which is basically Garak's biographie in a letter to Bashir.

@Chief-Remeldian-Olympus

6 жыл бұрын

Some reason I don't doubt that

@TakaComics

6 жыл бұрын

It WAS hidden in all the books, but Bashir ate them.

@Siegmernes

5 жыл бұрын

Dude. At least give me a line break between the word spoiler and the line. I read two lines simultaneously so I got kinda screwed here ^^''

Elim Garak, the greatest and most naturally gifted Gaslighter in the galaxy!

Garak, Master of Deception and witty lines !

I'd go to the promenade just to watch these two talk about daily stuff.

Cardassians seem to have natural bonus to charisma

Garak. Keep him close...but not TOO close.

@vardellsfolly5200

5 жыл бұрын

Earn his respect and keep him closer than anyone you know.

@paladinboyd1228

5 жыл бұрын

Λαυρέντιος Ψαροκάηκας, And for the love of God don’t turn your back on him.

Why Garek is a great character on the show.

I loved this show! I got roped in from the very first episode. I was predisposed to like Ben Sisko because I so loved Avery Brooks previous work as Hawk on Spencer For Hire. But his work on DS9 was so much broader and deeper.

Best line of a series with many, many great lines.

its the way he says "Especially the lies" at the end. Garak was a masterpiece of a character and we were incredibly lucky to have Andrew Robinson play him for 7 seasons of mind twisting show. I recommend this as an example of how wonderful he works with Quark. kzread.info/dash/bejne/aIqctc9vd5rJhs4.html

God the performance is so good. Check Robinson's face at 1:28 in particular. Immediately after claiming he has nothing to hide his smile relaxes for a fraction of a second before resuming its previous position. Garak's shifting from one lie to the next and he's giving himself away, although whether intentionally or not is up to debate.

@AdmiralVortex

Жыл бұрын

Thank you! It was such a beautiful detail, I had hoped more people would've mentioned it

0:19 "I didn't say yes, you just sat down without waiting for an answer!"

The more we watched Garak the easier it was to read his words. By nature of his upbringing and training, he was a master of subtlety, metaphor, and code. There comes a point where I don't think he was even capable of straight answers anymore, it was just so ingrained in his psychology and behavior to veil everything. But he seemed to do his best to be genuine with those around him about things that mattered, even if they didn't understand that he was doing so the best he could.

Garak had emotions and egos like most living things, but he has an almost Vulcan quality; what done is done and I'm still here. No need to dwell on it.

And a few years later Bashir got to live a war between the Klingon and Cardassian empires

The guy at the beginning looked like a cross between a Narn and a Minbari.

Garak was one of my faverite chracters on DS9.

For nearly a dozen years I was a tugboat deckhand towing fuel oil out of NYC, and during long hours under tow or perhaps laying dockside waiting on a load, much of the time was passed... Smoking cigarettes, drinking coffee and telling lies

Classic!!! It took a while but I finally believe DS9 was my favorite based on character development. Not to mention great acting.

@glentor3

Жыл бұрын

It definitely was the best of the 90’s Trek shows.

"- Even the lies? - Especially the lies." Now there's a skill we can all aspire to. Too often I find people's lies too obvious (especially those of the politician or journalist persuasion), it's like they don't respect me or my deductive skills.

I miss this show... so many good characters and so many great lines.

Andrew Robinson is an awesome actor... he brought so much to Garak

I'm guessing that the first section of this clip was basically a test to see how the Jem-Hadar looked on TV?

This is my favourite scene in DS9. Though Jadzia/Terry was capable of distracting me. Such a beautiful woman, Ms. Farrell. Although I offer notable mentions to the Odo/Kira angle. Ms Visitor had a strong fascination for me. (she be hot) The time Sisko gut shot Q..."I am not Picard!". That was AWESOME! DS9 wasn't perfect but it was a storyline I enjoyed. Plus Armin Shimerman knocked it out of the park as Quark. I'm Trekkie to fuck and proud. Thankyou "Great bird".

Great script! Great actors! Brilliant!

Good writing and good acting come together so beautifully.

Garak - best character on DS9.