Thank you for the opportunity for letting us come on the show and I look forward to covering more of it on a later date!!

@sunshinencoastlines

6 ай бұрын

So interesting to those of us that haven’t a clue what goes on inside. Thank you for sharing. ❤

@paranoidhumanoid

6 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing. It was an eye opener! ❤

@melaniegrant3934

6 ай бұрын

Thank you for sharing I was born in the USSR people look ate like I am from a different planet you guys made me feel normal thank you guys

@user-yj1jt8bw6s

6 ай бұрын

Thank you! Wow, blown away!

@carolinerocha5938

6 ай бұрын

I look forward to it too. 👍

Thank You Mark for having us on! Lots more to cover. I definitely need to work on my on camera cursing. It’s almost like having a defiant attitude got me to this point……..

@jennifersampson8958

6 ай бұрын

I have about a million questions! What a wild story, my god...

@haley9965

6 ай бұрын

Thank you for sharing your story, Lyndon! You’ve gone through something most will never understand but you still have a smile on your face! True resilience! I hope this world is kind to you and McKay! Can’t wait to see all the places you go! 🩵

@lisamcinnis9238

6 ай бұрын

Cursing keeps it real and colorful. I think it’s harmless. Such a curious culture. Happy for you both to have set your selves free. No small task I am sure. Keep on keeping on.

@janethughes2775

6 ай бұрын

It’s okay and no worries at all. Anyone who went through what you and McKay did would have had the same or stronger reaction. Thanks for sharing your story and hope to see you both on @GrowingUpinPoligamy with Sam and Melissa someday.

@donnathordarson2401

6 ай бұрын

I would love to know more about you and your brother - how you are doing, how life is treating you these days, if you are well - that kind of stuff. You are both such fascinating survivors / warriors that it would be awesome to know what is happening in your life in 2024.

"Don't try to prove them all wrong, just try to prove yourself right." That is sage advice indeed.

@carlgeorge7578

Ай бұрын

anyway, it never matters who is right, What matters is what is right.

his story about why he left his wife, so she could have the experiences a 17 year old kid deserves, is so beautiful. to have that insight at such a young age is inspiring and heartwarming. good for these brothers

@MC-vd5kp

6 ай бұрын

I hope she was ok though....a naive 17 yr old girl w no income or education is easy prey in this world.

@fucketaboutit

5 ай бұрын

well....a story......soo...........

@kelleyanderson7307

5 ай бұрын

It was the Bonnie and Clyde reference that got me!!!! He loved her....... true love ❤️

@alexandriahill6962

5 ай бұрын

Absolutely

@goldenshore6222

5 ай бұрын

Good love

I've been a professional driver for more than 10 years and just wanted to tell McKay i'm proud of him getting his CDL.

@rob550

6 ай бұрын

@GodGod-nq3bl Commercial driving license.

@yougotgamesonyourphone6947

6 ай бұрын

@GodGod-nq3bllol

@leekurt9751

5 ай бұрын

lolll @@rob550

@bozobebop5859

4 ай бұрын

Here here!

@lunownick

Ай бұрын

Money card! 👏

Im glad these brothers got out of that cult. Lyndon was a free thinker and put that spark in his brother McKay

@michaelswenson6599

6 ай бұрын

All are in the cult that darkness makes.

@stephenpmurphy591

6 ай бұрын

​@@VibeagainShallnot, I see you.

@ziggy44132

5 ай бұрын

It’s not a cult. I am part of it.

@stephenpmurphy591

5 ай бұрын

@@ziggy44132 We could call the Roman Catholic Church a cult and the richest corporation on planet earth. A few centuries ago they had heretics burned at the stake. Anyone who disagreed with them on anything....That's a cult.

@stephenpmurphy591

5 ай бұрын

@@Vibeagain No, I literally see you inside and out.

I lived in Utah for 45 years… as crazy as all this is, I’m not shocked by any of these stories. These guys tell the truth.

@torietorreano6613

5 ай бұрын

I used to live there too. Utah is a crazy place to move to.

@echoecho1913

4 ай бұрын

I was in Utah 26 years (not LDS) These guys are telling the absolute truth. And this is just the tip of the iceberg.

@WikWar

3 сағат бұрын

Lol 😂😂😂 FLDs and LDS are completely different and 1 % of Utah is like they are explaining. But If people want to believe Utah is like this everywhere that's okay maybe it will stay a safe state to live.

What I find amazing is that this two brothers stay close together. Guys please stay close.

McKay-I’m proud of you getting your CDL liscence. That’s a big accomplishment.

@dianeNoneYa1157

2 ай бұрын

Yes it is!

You can tell from Lyndons facial expressions just how disgusted he is by some of McKays stories of the church. What a "blessing" that his intuition and brain served him right since a small child. He always was a free thinker and knew what was happening was wrong. I can only hope there are more children like this that know right from wrong despite the preachings of the church.

@denisevermeulen4984

5 ай бұрын

When it comes to religion everyone needs to be a free thinker. I learned the hard way. I’m good now though. Therapy is a godsend

@bayoubabe6698

5 ай бұрын

Well said. I watched Lyndon’s face-like he was back in all the craziness-as his younger brother talked about the men sexually abusing the younger boys. It’s heartbreaking but I think they are going to make it in the real world. Chop Wood, Carry Water ✌️

@sunshine91671

4 ай бұрын

Lyndon has a great smile but sadness behind the eyes. Interesting he knew of music and other banned things he got his hands on. Glad they got out. Mormonism is dangerous and disgusting.

@littlesecret1961

3 ай бұрын

Maybe he’s uncomfortable with inability to share the story without using so much profanity. I swear a lot and even I got sick of his language. There are other words to use besides “f*#k”, it just makes him sound ignorant.

I was married to their oldest brother in the religion. I’m glad they are telling their story, although this is just a small piece of it. I tended Mckay alot when we were still in the religion. Miss those kiddos.

@rachelb315

6 ай бұрын

I would love to hear your story too!

@AliceHolm88

6 ай бұрын

@@rachelb315I plan to tell it soon

@ellengarcia4041

6 ай бұрын

Yeah religious based ... stick to the topic forced marriages with UNDER AGED female children!!

@user-dk6oo1rg6v

5 ай бұрын

I'd love to hear it too! God bless you I hope you are doing well ​@@AliceHolm88

@Moon_Presence

5 ай бұрын

​@@AliceHolm88I was born Mormon, I'd love to talk to you about the difference between, the two sects

Having left the regular Mormon church years ago, i feel like we (my wife and I) escaped a crazy world. I can't imagine the $h!t that these guys have gone through to get where they are. Keep moving forward and dont look back!

@tobipeters1163

3 ай бұрын

I left the Mormon church, as well! It is just all made up, greedy, controlling and was honestly disgusting to my soul.

I worked at a place where we hired a lot of young men/boys from these communities. They were ran off by the old men because they were seen as competition by the old men who wanted to keep the girls for themselves. A lot of them had nearly no education and had basically been living on the streets doing whatever to get by and whatever else for relief from all their trauma.

@666nacirema666

6 ай бұрын

Im glad these brothers found one another again.

@TheGrmany69

5 ай бұрын

Well that sounds like a tribal society.

@Ernest-vh1zm

5 ай бұрын

It's so very sad.

@maygrantz4426

Ай бұрын

It is quite sad..

Ppl wonder why women like “bad boys” and it’s not necessarily that we want a man who’s a criminal. What describes it perfectly is when Mckay said “And no one wants to be the only person in a room of 7000 to stand up and say I disagree” and then Lyndon said “I do.” That’s the spirit we mean when we say bad boy. Someone with conviction and confidence who is willing to go against the grain regardless of the consequences.

@gldnsunrising7761

6 ай бұрын

YAASSS PERFECTLY SAID! ❤

@Lioness_of_Gaia

6 ай бұрын

Yes!

@amandaanderson209

6 ай бұрын

Agreed, perfectly said!

@xBINARYGODx

6 ай бұрын

depends on what people mean when they say it - sometimes it really is being used at someone who is no good. Too bad others have also used it for people who simply don't just play ball.

@Lioness_of_Gaia

6 ай бұрын

@@xBINARYGODx Have you ever been ostracized? Scapegoated? Broken out from a multigenerational cult? I have. It takes a tremendous amount of willpower and self love to be labeled as "BAD".

Proud of you two men for breaking the cycle of religious trauma and cults. ❤

I've been following your channel for months, but this is the first time I'm commenting. These two men are exceptional. I can't imagine how tough it must be to trust your own moral compass and get out of a situation like that. I wish nothing but the best for them moving forward.

@emmanueludoh77

3 ай бұрын

Yes i really enjoyed this interview too. Especially the older guy

Huge respect to these two courageous brothers. You can feel the strong bond between them and it is wonderful to see that. Best wishes to them.

I wish the younger brother had more of a chance to speak. But this was a great interview. Sending love to both of these guys & of course you Mark as well💜💜💜

@TaurusMoon-hu3pd

6 ай бұрын

Same here

@grant4176

6 ай бұрын

It's in the training to let Elders speak and younger ones be quiet.

@TaurusMoon-hu3pd

6 ай бұрын

@@grant4176 the younger brother doesn't look too happy about it and the older one has hung on to that "training" 😕

@SinaLaJuanaLewis

6 ай бұрын

I agree, the older brother just dominated 😢

@betsybabf748

6 ай бұрын

They have different personalities, and not everyone likes to talk or is naturally extroverted. Mark also edits all these videos. You don't know what was edited out or why. Always one who finds something to complain about.

Can we make this into a series? McKay, I can listen to you talk all day. Lyndon, you crack me up man. Wonderful storytellers. Wishing you both the very best that this world can offer 🌟

I was engaged to a member of the Mormon church for five years. I was never welcomed in to the family. This was in the early 80’s. Years later his dad was found guilty of molesting his granddaughter. He was excommunicated from the church, but other than that, it was like it never happened. His whole family stood by him. It was crazy. My ex fiancée and his dad were killed in a plane crash a few years ago. I wonder what celestial level they made it to…

@pinkpugginz

5 ай бұрын

outer darkness

@jillh440

5 ай бұрын

Hell- the lake of fire.

@strawbeary818

3 ай бұрын

Karma won in the end ig?

@craftsonthecheap468

8 күн бұрын

I believe its called HELL.

I live in salt lake City and my daughter dated an ex flds guy, he has 3 moms and 14 siblings! He is a good man and was very family oriented and had no interest in staying in the flds church. We still stay in touch with him even though it didn't work out with my daughter

@lunamaharuni

6 ай бұрын

@@Drstone-ys6we WOW aren't you a smartie pants

@lunamaharuni

6 ай бұрын

@@Drstone-ys6we lol

@Mizz.Person

5 ай бұрын

I wish more people were like you. I liked some of the parents so much more than ex boyfriends. I'm sure he appreciates your family friendship! :)

@lunamaharuni

5 ай бұрын

@@Mizz.Person so true! Haha We love him and wished it would have worked out. But they weren't meant for each other and that's ok too. He still drops by to visit us, even though my daughter doesn't live with us and he's engaged to another cute woman with children. He really is a good guy

Religious trauma is very real 😢

@michaelswenson6599

6 ай бұрын

The environment of the flds is much closer than mans world to what an environment should be. But none know how to sow the light and night that it should be. Light is sown like a seed for the righteous. Psalm 97:11 I spent a week in Short Creek last spring. Had at least 2 great conversations about sowing light. That is a good place to abide in the glory of God. It might actually be that Z word that ends like lion does.

@lindsay5305

6 ай бұрын

Fact

@EddyG0rdo

6 ай бұрын

@@michaelswenson6599what in the world are you saying

@luvyatubers

6 ай бұрын

Recovering From Religion y'all. They make interview videos also

@jimbeam-ru1my

6 ай бұрын

religious trauma? Why are women such morons? Listening to these guys it became clear that they had better childhood than all the people raised by single mothers in our society. they had parents, they had a bunch of siblings, they were taught how to work, they ate healthy food that they raised and grew themselves, they were kept away from television, the internet and porno, they had a tight knit community, they didn't have schools telling them to be gay and trans and to hate themselves for being white, they lived in a white community. . . only a woman could be dumb enough to think their testimony is a horror story.

When he speaks of “Bonnie &Clyde” relationship what he is describing is a trauma bond and it’s real hard to break the cycle. My hat is off to Lyndon for letting go of his young wife.

@MC-vd5kp

Ай бұрын

It sounded like a mutual decision, not sure about the young woman's point of view.

This was sad. Fascinating. And triumphant. McKay needs his own interview now.

@greenie75

6 ай бұрын

I thought McKay said what he wanted to say, but there's obviously a lot more stuff bubbling away under the surface. He seems to really love his family and I think he feels quite alienated from them (even though he has no desire to go back). Luckily, he has his brother.

Intelligence, independence, and bravery. What a lucky combination!

Every religion is a corporation based off of a sex, money, and power.. Well said!

@sophiegolden

6 ай бұрын

Indeed

@martinmummert5614

6 ай бұрын

Except doctrinally sound, King James Bible-based Christianity.

@candvdz9618

6 ай бұрын

@@martinmummert5614nah, especially that one

@astralfluxaf

6 ай бұрын

@@martinmummert5614that’s one of the worst offenders

@matthewneufer1758

6 ай бұрын

No tru Christianity based on Jesus teachings and Apostle Paul they dont follow the scripture they make up their own scripture .

I go to school in St George, Utah and one of my classmates is from Hildale with the last name is Jeffs. Super nice guy, but he is clueless about some social norms. I haven’t really tried to pry into his life and background but now I’m very curious. I also buy pecans from that pecan farm in Hurricane all the time, they’re the best! Edit: I talked to him and he told me his family got out of it about 15 years ago when Warren Jeffs started doing crazy stuff. He commutes from Hildale 45 minutes every day for school and loves it there. He says it’s changed drastically in the last few years and most FLDS have relocated to Beaver or around Cedar City, UT. He appreciated being talked to about his background and we’re gonna hike Water Canyon when it warms up!

@Notmep

6 ай бұрын

Ohhh hurricane is full of the cult

@UncleBread

6 ай бұрын

@@Notmep I was at a park on the Fourth of July out there and a really old dude with at least six wives came and posted up at a table next to us in the same pavilion. The youngest one couldn’t have been older than sixteen

@GlamGam1964

5 ай бұрын

Thanks for reaching out to this person. No doubt he needs you.

I grew up in the cult of jehovahs witnesses. Like these two brothers, me leaving the cult meant losing family. It's very tough

@peggygarcia6125

6 ай бұрын

So sorry. So cruel.

@cpeace3172

5 ай бұрын

Glad you got out. 🙌🏻 Live your life to the fullest. You are not responsible for their negative reactions. They are brainwashed.

@stinkywow

4 ай бұрын

Me too. But glad I left and made my own life

@gjhartist3685

4 ай бұрын

I wish SWU would interview an EX-JW one day.

@user-xl9xt3vp9j

4 ай бұрын

@@gjhartist3685 yes I agree

Excellent interview! I could listen to their stories all day. Another interview with them would be so cool!

@thesimulation9651

6 ай бұрын

I hope they start their own podcast, they're really engaging

@user-gp4ug9uu8p

6 ай бұрын

I agree! I'd like to see Mark follow these men like he does the Whitakers and Rebecca

I get the impression that the lad Lyndon was unable to say the F word for 17 years and he’s making up for lost time in this interview 😮

@amygreen9662

6 ай бұрын

Right. I love it!

@rdw2457

6 ай бұрын

😂

@TeamAwesomeDad

6 ай бұрын

Fuck yeah!!

@billschlafly4107

6 ай бұрын

Yep, he's a smart guy but he has sloppy language skills.

@blacksalt1802

6 ай бұрын

@@amygreen9662saaaaaame! 😂😂❤

2 EXCEPTIONAL YOUNG MEN!!! So happy they seem grounded after coming from such a horrendous mind screwing childhood! Lyndon, if I was your Mum, I would be so proud of you, never disown you!!! McKay what a beautiful young man you are !Sending love from Perth Australia 🌈 Kylie

I love these boys! They make their dad and me so very proud. They have overcome such hardships and have made great lives for themselves.

@tallyannklitzke932

5 ай бұрын

I’m just curious, would you mind saying if you are one of their mothers that raised them in the home with the other mothers? If so which # wife were you? Or did you get with their dad after he was ousted? Thanks

@VickiJessop

5 ай бұрын

Their dad was not ousted. He left when he realized what Warren Jeffs was doing. I am not part of that community. I met their dad in 2010 after he was out for a few years.

These two men are absolutely amazing, so glad they have each other’s backs, and I hope they can work to support others from that community that break free.

We need another episode wit these guys 🫡

@rachelb315

6 ай бұрын

Agreed!!

@davejones8462

5 ай бұрын

For realll

@maple9326

5 ай бұрын

With

@dianeNoneYa1157

2 ай бұрын

Yes! I want to hear what the brother has to say!

This all sounds so abusive and traumatic. Poor kids that are forced to live behind closed doors, deprived of so much, abused, and explpited for their labor! Wow! Thank u for educating us. You have my respect for being a fearless leader!

This is hands down the best interview I have ever heard from escaped FLDS members. Their spirit, humor, and strength is admirable.

This is a Fu*king Netflix series! I would definitely watch it.

@laitondion

6 ай бұрын

Keep sweet and obey is from exmormons. Cults to conciseness is an awesome channel on KZread!

@Codisrocks

6 ай бұрын

@@laitondion this cult is Mormon.

@dejanrakic77

6 ай бұрын

At least 5 seasons

@Lifeletnothingholdudown

6 ай бұрын

​@@laitondion do realize these boys are not members of the LDS Church videos you Recommended. These boys are from a break off from the LDS church. They explain that at the beginning of the video.

@Daniel-wl2bx

6 ай бұрын

They have a Netflix series called “Keep Sweet and Obey”

great interview…glad they are out…mckay was so patient waiting as his bro talked the most…u could tell he’s so affected still…my heart goes out to both ofthem for they will never have relationships w/most their family..it’s sad.

This was so interesting! How amazing that people live like this. One of the wisest things I’ve ever heard some say was Lyndon’s “don’t prove them wrong, prove yourself right.” Congratulations to these two men for escaping.

Lyndon & Mackay…You are ABSOLUTELY REMARKABLE in telling your story of being born in a cult and then emerging as people who UNDERSTOOD RIGHT FROM WRONG!!❤from Montreal

I’ve always been fascinated by the FLDS and hearing survivors’ stories, but mostly it’s women who leave as the men seem to have a sense of safety. Listening to these guys is so interesting, the fact that they hated it almost right off the bat is not a surprise though. What they put the young boys through is brutal, I’m glad these guys got out! Thank you for telling your stories guys 😊

@thematriarchy2075

6 ай бұрын

I understand what you mean, but the men are also screwed.

@lifemusic1980

6 ай бұрын

I heard stories about young men being disowned because they are a threat to the older powerful "leaders" (predators) and their control over the girls.

@morgenmachen2400

6 ай бұрын

I don't know a huge amount about the FLDS either, but as I understand it the men work and give everything to the church. The majority either have their wives taken because they rank low in the hierarchy or never are given wives at all. That's the only way one man can have 20, 30 plus wives. As you might imagine, this likely causes a lot of pain for a man.

@thematriarchy2075

6 ай бұрын

@@morgenmachen2400 I know you weren't necessarily responding to my comment, but just to be clear about my comment, i wasn't talking about men having or not having a wife or wives as a reason to be screwed.

@morgenmachen2400

6 ай бұрын

​@@thematriarchy2075I didn't assume that. Neither was mine, by the way.

Lyndon sounds like a strong minded kind of guy. Which, probably, helped him live in that comunity and then leave it. I hope more people in places like that have the opportunity to ask for help and get out.

I started watching this after midnight and it was hard to go to sleep, especially after listening to all the suffering these young men were forced to endure. The source of all this suffering can be traced to one individual: Warren Jeffs.

@kathleenroberts6931

4 ай бұрын

And, relijin. Created by man to divide & control man. 😭 Mother Earth 🌎 is sacred, along with all life, she's our only home 🏡 😊

@kristen7254

3 ай бұрын

Unfortunately it didn't start there. It started with Joseph Smith.

If spilling the tea was a person! Telling everything, naming folk, locations...wow!

These guys have the hearts and courage of a lion. Way to go guys

I meet one of warrens jeffs nephews randomly at a golf course. He proceeds to tell me one of the most awful stories he experience while growing up in the flds. He was a very nice young man. I hope he's doing well.

@Ernest-vh1zm

6 ай бұрын

Did this happen to be a golf course in Mesquite Nevada?

@ShyShyTheGem

6 ай бұрын

…well… what was the story?

@JackMehoff-db8bt

6 ай бұрын

Why tf u lien? Why u always lien? Ohhh mmmmmy gawd

@jessicajennifer9827

6 ай бұрын

​@Ernest-vh1zm no, it was in Albuquerque NM. He was attending university here. He had a striking physical resemblance to Warren's imo.

@jessicajennifer9827

6 ай бұрын

​@@JackMehoff-db8btshut up dindo

Im so happy they are free! They should have a podcast! Please have them back! All the best!

Happy you have a sponsor Mark! I’m so grateful to have someone like you behind the camera provoking societal notions, and finding the footings of the bridges to be built.

It’s crazy what you can make a group of people believe when you isolate them and control what information that they get. Great video Mark! I know you hear it all the time but you do an excellent job.

@astralfluxaf

6 ай бұрын

It’s scary isn’t it? Sometimes they don’t even need to be very isolated to fall for this bs too. If the leaders are manipulative enough they can get a lot of people to believe strange lies. 😬

@amber76OH

6 ай бұрын

It's heartbreaking, truly. I also believe that this theory holds true, even when isolation isn't a key ingredient. Those who control the information (i.e., the news, media, algorithms) control the minds. I see it every day here, and it's quite scary when people you've previously believed to be intelligent, begin to fall under these spells #thisisamerica

@TheKayaklover

6 ай бұрын

Same thing happened in Cuba until the internet finally started just a few years ago and everyone started to wake up to their government controlled minds ! Now there are hundreds of young Cuban people with KZread channels exposing the truth !

@JulesssRules

6 ай бұрын

Just as the Japanese government did to their own citizens during WWII. Brainwashed them with propaganda

@cross-eyedmary6619

2 ай бұрын

Agreed! We all need to ponder the implication of that, since information is so heavily controlled through the internet now.

Lyndon, please let McKay speak more. Or perhaps there wasn't enough time for all of the whole story? Lyndon, you have a great attitude now. "Prove it to yourself." Great! And, so good you help out your brother and the other people who left. Setting a good example is your absolute contribution. So glad you are both on the better path. Best to you and anyone else recovering.

I love these guys so much!!! I've been around Mormon culture all of my life (grew up in Vegas) and the control in both FLDS and LDS culture is real. These are brave, amazing guys...

Well...we have a new winner ladies and gentlemen cuz this has to be one of my most favorite interviews out of all of them so far now and I couldn't help but feel so completely fascinated and captivated by these guys' incredible stories so thank you both for sharing them with us!! You are amazing, brave and very strong to get through everything that you were forced to endure through your childhood but I am so happy that you got through it all and now are able to move forward to live the best lives you possibly can so bravo to the both of you and congrats!!!🥳❤️💯👏👏👏 (Incredibly inspirational)!!!👍👍

It was fascinating listening to these guys. Lyndon has such a dry sense of humour, what a great big brother McKay has. Wishing them both all the luck in the world for a good life.

What a sad but incredibly story. Thank you for sharing - wishing you both the very best in your journeys. Love 💕 from Canada 🇨🇦

grateful for this interview. one-on-one chat with McKay please

Thank you for the interview Lyndon, McKay and Soft White Underbelly

Lately, I’ve been listening to a channel called cult to consciousness and I’ve heard many girl’s part of this same story. I can’t start to comprehend how on Earth the government has not gotten involved in that whole thing earlier. Those Mormon kids have been through so much! It’s wild to me that it could go on and even exist for so long! I’m so glad he became that black sheep that saved himself and many others. Sincerely, he is awesome and can be so proud of himself!

@laitondion

6 ай бұрын

Because they pay them! I love that channel too!

@frankfranklin4846

6 ай бұрын

@@laitondionis it a KZread channel or a podcast? Can you link it? Thx ☺️

@timebot000

6 ай бұрын

​@@frankfranklin4846...it's a utube utube channel.

@7mariepierre

6 ай бұрын

@@frankfranklin4846 it’s a KZread channel. I have no clue how to link it but I’m sure if you type Cult to Consciousness, you’ll find it.

@brettsabey7301

6 ай бұрын

i don't think they are considered Mormon

This interview was just fascinating. I sat here and watched the entire video. 🤯

Absolutely fascinating! Hats off to both of these young men ! Lyndon w his leadership and clear-sighted thinking, and his brother w the courage to follow. Not only did they get out, they are also leading clean-living, productive lives. As someone who escaped a less severe cult that led to severe religious trauma, I admire their steadfastness and mental acuity. Best wishes for happy, trauma-free and successful lives🎉. Congratulations on your bravery, young men !

@greenie75

6 ай бұрын

Great comment :)

This was amazing. Probably one of my top three and I watch you every day. This is so interesting. Crazy story. I wish you had a part 2 on them

Mark, this is wild man. I wouldn’t mind if you interviewed all of their family members who have left the church.

Thank you Lyndon and McKay for your great interview. I've seen the documentary on FLDS. I couldn't imagine how much trauma you've experienced. Take pride in how you overcame it.✨️

So glad to see these guys expose this cult, unashamedly!

These two young men have so much to say. Mark thank you for giving them the opportunity to speak freely.

@robertnervi57

3 ай бұрын

Yes.

Well done Lyndon and McKay! Thank you for sharing your stories.

As someone who grew up as a strict JW - this sounds crazy even to me. I had to throw away my Pokemon cards and couldn't talk to kids in school - but this is next level control.

@Mudhen2020

6 ай бұрын

Are you still a JW? I work for JW’s which is my first real exposure. They are super nice and good folks.

@Cotillion308

6 ай бұрын

They have the biggest database of pedos in the world that they refuse to turn over to police. They will shun you for smoking a cigarette but protect rapist. Great people.

@laurarobbie249

5 ай бұрын

JW a cult too

@ashleyt.1116

5 ай бұрын

​@@Mudhen2020Super nice until you are no longer one of them.

@theoneandonly1158

5 ай бұрын

​@@ashleyt.1116 exactly, then they will shun you so bad and talk all kinds of garbage

one of the best interviews so far!

Lyndon's face when McKay was describing things they had to do, like not being able to eat Squash, was hilarious.

I love how Lyndon played the players 😂 and how he let his love go to grow and find herself ❤ What a lovely set of guys ❤❤❤

My ❤️ goes out to all the children! Thanks for the video!

Ayy just wanted to say, for what it's worth, I'm proud of you both. I spent some of my childhood in a cultish situation and I know how it is to watch pure madness unfold around you when you don't share the majority's mindset. It damages and influences the development of your worldview. But you both deserve recognition for how far you've come as individuals. Keep up the good work guys.

You two are amazing! I appreciate the support you give to each other. Sibling love goes a long way in this life.

Excellent interview. Wishing the best to these boys. They made a wise and brave decision to leave the cult. Please do more religious themed interviews. They are fascinating.

Heartbreaking that their mom discarded them

1:07:07 - the moment Lyndon realizes the FLDS went full Animal Farm when McKay explains the member-numbering system they used to ration the food - the look on his face is how I felt reading Orwell in high school, and then again when I realized how literal Orwell’s books were after realizing the leader of a group I had joined was a full psychopath, and the whole system of people he’d built around him were there to protect and enable him. Same look, same feeling, when you see the depth of the pathology, when you realize a little bit off or a lot off is actually way f-cking off.

@rachelb315

6 ай бұрын

I agree, watching his face and seeing him process that was wild.

Incredible interview! Thank you Lyndon and McKay for sharing your experience growing up in the FLDS and being so frank and honest about your lives and educating us about what growing up FLDS is really like. It takes a lit of strength and tenacity to escape a life like that. I wish you both the very best.

This is a really great interview. Thank you for having them share their stories.

Im glad they made it out!

Thank you Mark for our hosts on this video. Cannot wait for part 2.

So proud of these boys for having to courage to talk about this. Silence is how this stuff continues so talking about this cult is a good thing

What a great great interview.. please have them back again.. i could listen to their stories all day long..

I really enjoyed this one. Hopefully you can have them come back for a part 2

This dude is such an old soul, free spirit. Really well spoken. Positive. Intelligent. Calm. A really good guy.

This is one of the best interviews of fdls I have seen and I'm addicted to watching this.

Great interview, but I wish the younger brother had more of a chance to speak. I would love to hear more from him!

One of your best interviews

We need more of these kinds interviews. So proud of them for how far they have come!

@luvyatubers

6 ай бұрын

RfRx channel has a lot of vids

Fascinating interview and I wish nothing but the best to these two young guys!

This is a Great Interview. Lyndon is an old soul, Strong willed. Great planning on getting out. They are Brave for leaving. Sad they have no contact with parents. Hope they are enjoying their new life. Im sure they're very appreciative of " The little things in life", Nowadays.

@VickiJessop

6 ай бұрын

Lyndon is definitely an old soul.

Great guys right here. Saw the title wasn’t even going to watch . Listened intently to the whole thing. . Crazy crazy interesting .

So much gleaned from you Lyndon and you McKay - primarily, what well-rounded, funny, wise, fearless, humble & proud (well-deserved pride) you both are. I'd say you truly made lemonade, from the lemons in your lives. It warms my heart that you're back together and building a solid, respectful and satisfying life, as beautiful individuals but also as a family. Thank you for sharing the challenging personal things you both experienced, I have such respect for your resilience. I truly wish everything wonderful and fulfilling for you both!!

Loved this interview!! One of my very favorites. Thank you Mark!!

This interview is way more accurate than any of the documentaries out there

@user-mi5cm1cm2z

6 ай бұрын

😊

This dude 100% needs a movie

@thematriarchy2075

6 ай бұрын

There are 2 dudes, not sure if you saw that

@GiGi_to_3

6 ай бұрын

@@thematriarchy2075 🤣

@TheNapoleonComplex1

6 ай бұрын

@@thematriarchy2075 the dude that Mark said needed a movie 🙄

@thematriarchy2075

6 ай бұрын

😉​@@TheNapoleonComplex1

@jefferymiller30

6 ай бұрын

Omg, you all are too funny😂🤣

I wish McKay had been able to talk more. He would start to say something interesting and then shortly get interrupted. If he ever does a one-on-one interview, I'd definitely be interest! but overall very unique perspective from both of them, and I was grateful to hear more of what the male side of things was like. Thanks for sharing, to all involved. Wishing them both the best.

McKay definitely sounds like he's from the Crick. I'd recognize that accent anywhere. I'm so happy Lyndon got away and helped get McKay away from that cult. I'm very dear friends with one of their fellow apostates from the Crick. His name is Bryan Jessop. They probably know him/are related to him. He has shared a lot with me about what went on there and what life was like there. One of the strangest rules, in my opinion, was no pets. The longer Jeffs was in power, the stricter and more insane the rules became. It will never make any sense to me. But, then again, I wasn't born into it.

@lynnrussell1641

6 ай бұрын

The town of Pinesdale in Western MT is a FLDS polygamy camp and a bunch of Jessops have been there for years.They had an influx from Warren Jeff's Community and several moved back to UT.They are Definately practicing,women and girls don't cut their hair,wear no makeup,dress like Amish the boys are trained to do construction trades or work in the Mormon owned Used Car lots all over,grocery stores,retail,and bus down to Darby to work in the big warehouses distributing all the made in China "home decor" and kid's stuff they sell amongst mainstream and FLDS Mormons.Fake Western Art and Chinese knockoff Western gear and scented candles and knicknacks is a Hallmark of their Merchandising.

I can relate so much. I was raised by my narcissistic grandmother after my mother died. My grandmother got me on probation for no good reason and used it against me. I was released at 18 and have barely spoken to my grandmother since. The courts are used against kids all the time.

this is so intense, i cant watch it all at once, but LOVE this potty mouth dude, lol They are both so amazing, to have lived through this and speak so articulately.

Thank you for recording and posting this valuable educational video. I wish you both peace and prosperity in your life.

I'm from England and Lyndon is a legend, I've always been fascinated with the LDS,, I love how he says it as it is, what a guy.. Best of luck and more power to them.. Brilliant, they ain't taking any sh#t...

@Moon_Presence

5 ай бұрын

This is different than LDS.... This is FLDS