Finally, something that isn't coming for my job

@tortoiseshell_cat

2 ай бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂

@JohnneyleeRollins

2 ай бұрын

Good, now compete to keep it 😅

@NexusGamingRadical

2 ай бұрын

Bruh, this is the content I got used to.

@bennythetiger6052

2 ай бұрын

W comment 😂😂

@spec5delta259

2 ай бұрын

Underrated comment

Guy 1: ""So what do you wanna call this language we made?" Guy 2:"Err.......lang ??...."

@DavidJohnsson

2 ай бұрын

I think it was more like ERicsson LANGuage.

@jtarchie

2 ай бұрын

Ericson, the telecom operator, was the main supporter for BEAM. Er(icson) Lang(uage).

@akkesm

2 ай бұрын

Also Erlang as in the mathematician, Agner Krarup Erlang, known for his work in statistics and telecommunications.

@hedwig7s

2 ай бұрын

Dang 3 people without a sense of humour

@EliasWolfy

2 ай бұрын

r/woosh ☝️🤓

Adding "fluent in erlang" to my resume

@GSBarlev

2 ай бұрын

That's something I would _really hate_ to get called on. "Oh, you're fluent in erlang? Great! You're now responsible for keeping this *extremely important* but ancient codebase from exploding! Here's your company pager-hope you don't believe in nights or weekends!"

@yokaparthasarathy3294

2 ай бұрын

@@GSBarlevYou're supposed to burn the man not his soul

@vaisakhkm783

2 ай бұрын

​@@GSBarlevAnd it's made by a really excited intern 30 years ago, held on by duck tape, hope, prayers and spaghetti code base regurgitated by the 30 years of maintainers who never cleaned up their technical dept.... with a great documentation that 20 years out of date and only seen by yahoo, not google..

@geroutathat

2 ай бұрын

@@GSBarlevStop making out like its ancient not used. Its the power behind the biggest apps in the world. Facebook even tried to move to it but had trouble cross training as their coders had problems understanding stuff like tail end recursion. That ancient codebase will never explode, and it just looks like its being held together with tape from the outside, learn erlang from top to bottom and you will see the code is usually really good and solid.

@flashingrowth

2 ай бұрын

@@geroutathat is it worth to learn it ??!

“Let it crash” - Joe Armstrong, economist

@sirrobinofloxley7156

2 ай бұрын

Trump warns US voters of a 'bloodbath' if he loses presidential election Issued on: 17/03/2024

@EpicNicks

2 ай бұрын

​@@sirrobinofloxley7156 Out of context misinfo

@monkeytimesmagazine3725

2 ай бұрын

​@@sirrobinofloxley7156his a$$ is gonna look like a bloodbath after the election

@AnthonyBullard

2 ай бұрын

Joe Armstrong was one of the GOATs. RIP Joe

@akam9919

2 ай бұрын

@@sirrobinofloxley7156 i fail to see the relevance of trump comments to the original one. (also, probably completely out of context realistically speaking.)

Erlang so powerful, it turned 100 seconds into 163.

@igorthelight

2 ай бұрын

That's because we awaited some tasks to finish! ;-)

@AaaTeeEyeBee

2 ай бұрын

It was meant to be consumed in three concurrent blocks of 100sec. 🤷‍♂

@vighnesh153

Ай бұрын

If Math.floor( T / 100) == 1, then it is a 100 second video.

@bendertherobot910

Ай бұрын

Erlang executed tons of threads in your own mind and you didn't realise that yet...

This is clearly a precursor to "Gleam in 100 seconds", considering it's recent 1.0 release.

@apestogetherstrong341

2 ай бұрын

inferior version of erlang

@Kats0unam1

2 ай бұрын

Gleam is kinda shit tho.

@Soul-Burn

2 ай бұрын

Doesn't matter, it's currently getting clicks/views.

@AaaTeeEyeBee

2 ай бұрын

*squeals* yes please!

@tshwarelolebeko2395

Ай бұрын

What's shitty about it?

A FireShip Video where u actually feel its calm and soothing in the tech world

@ehza

2 ай бұрын

❤ exactly

@none_the_less

2 ай бұрын

AI is still coming for your job.

@aromaticsnail

2 ай бұрын

@@none_the_less not worry with my butt...it's my job I'm concerned

@none_the_less

2 ай бұрын

@@aromaticsnail Edited. ;)

@pooroldnostradamus

2 ай бұрын

@@none_the_lessWe're all going to die. But it's not exactly a useful allocation of our limited time to think about and lament it. It's sort of the same with imminent automation.

The syntax is crazy

@baubi4260

2 ай бұрын

Bro decided to write phrases with his code lmao

@cybroxde

2 ай бұрын

That's why Elixir exists.

@nguyenhanh9479

2 ай бұрын

@@cybroxde Elixir syntax is not exactly easy to read either.

@isodoubIet

2 ай бұрын

I mean it's fine really, at least it doesn't define blocks with indentation

@kipchickensout

2 ай бұрын

@@isodoubIet true, that's the worst

Important thing about those processes is that they are very cheap to create and you can have lots of them at the same time. While it might sound unimpressive today, it did even 10-15 years ago, and this language is older than that.

@mohitjain5552

2 ай бұрын

What?

@geroutathat

2 ай бұрын

@@mohitjain5552 In the video they said you can create a process and then hang the process forever, so you might want to create a timeout. But the thing is, creating a process in erlang is cheap. You can create millions of them and leave them all hanging waiting and it wont crash your server. On a modern computer you could probably have billions of processes waiting. This can start getting chaotic even if it is acceptable code, so they use pools of processors and they queue calls to make it easier for our brains to understand exactly whats going on.... An example might be "server processes" you might start one for every single logged on person and leave it hanging until they log off, just waiting for them to do stuff. If your sever process crashes, no one else on the sytem is affected at all. If you have lets say 100 million users, and changing the name causes a crash, you can keep everyone online, have 1 million people crash, relaunch all them people instantly in a new server process, and update the running code without ever bringing the server offline. All of that is basically built into standard erlang. It is still impressive by todays standards. A company like facebook usually connects everyone to different computer servers, and if that server goes down, everyone on it goes down. WIth erlang 3 of the people connected to it could crash and the rest would be oblivious. For people who dont know erlang this can create code that looks like its being held together with tape and glue, they will get an error like "Okay 300 people cant send messages, whats going on?" and they look at the code and they cant figure it out, and indeed this is the hardest part of knowing erlang. For example an error you might find in Erlang would be an apple device is sending a packet to the server as ascii encoded, and your sever is pattern matching for binary. You and everyone else log on and its all working fine and you scratch your head.

@julesoscar8921

2 ай бұрын

That is green thread right?

@davidbriggs8109

2 ай бұрын

@@julesoscar8921not really

@MultiMrAsd

2 ай бұрын

@@julesoscar8921 Its green threads, but it ensures that no thread can block or crash and prevent a switch between threads. It also separates the memory of all threads for more efficient GC.

erlang did define the very popular actor model, and even more so, the lightweight processes don't just scale to thousands, they scale into the millions. And that doesn't even count the built in support for passing messages between machines and supporting distributed systems through nearly invisible abstractions, and providing very capable distributed caching through ETS and basic persistence through mnesia db. OTP is an absolute monster of a platform. Its a shame it's so esoteric to so many people.

@nikhilitty

2 ай бұрын

Syntax does take some getting used to, but it does get easier. And fun at times. That being said, I wish there were more jobs using the language- or at least, I can't seem to find too many. In my limited 2YOE, this has been the language I've worked with the most, and I find it a shame that I'll have to stick to more conventional options like Java or Python.

@SJ-eu7em

2 ай бұрын

Some years back Ericsson still used it and Spotify as well, probably couple other Swedish companies where ex E/// people went

@LtdJorge

2 ай бұрын

@@SJ-eu7emThere are some products written on it with companies behind them, like RabbitMQ, EMQx, CouchDB, Couchbase, Riak, etc

@teknonmy7210

Ай бұрын

@@nikhilitty all the jobs I've seen for Erlang require pretty high seniority, because most Erlang programmers with experience are very senior. Same thing with every obscure language I know

@darrennew8211

Ай бұрын

The whole "spawn and link" being atomic is really impressive, as is the ability to send functions over channels.

Elixir is genuinely one of my favourite languages ever, I dont get to use it often, but it beautiful, thanks erlanngg

@knightofrohan

Ай бұрын

Do you know of any great resources to learn Elixir? I find the syntax so difficult

@adamsilber-gniady6326

Ай бұрын

@@knightofrohan exercism is great

@ujulspins

22 күн бұрын

@@knightofrohan Read books. Unlike popular languages, the bulk of knowledge here is in books, not lessons on KZread. Lists of these books are easy to find.

100 seconds of gleam, waiting for it , thank you in advance

@samifouad

Ай бұрын

⭐️!

Let's not forget it STILL runs the worlds telecommunications software. Plenty of people still want data, txt, or calls on their phones out there!

Having worked with Erlang during my university days, and Elixir professionally, I would argue that the BEAM based programming languages offers the best model and support for concurrency out of every major language out there.

Fun fact - Erlang still underpins the telecommunications systems that connect your phone to the cellular tower/base station and beyond.

Now that you've done Erlang, Gleam would be a logical next topic for a 100-second video.

Do a video on how android is different from linux i.e building process, distribution, code maintainence, which part of android gets upstreamed to the linux kernel, etc. It could be a main channel or 2nd channel video I guess.

@universaltoons

2 ай бұрын

yes pls

@julesoscar8921

2 ай бұрын

Basically nothing. Most constructor use their old kernel like 4.x

Right now, I am literally reviewing my university lectures' powerpoint about Erlang and just now thought "hmm maybe fireship has a video on this" and then I see he uploaded this 2 hours ago... There's no way this guy isn't spying on me.

The syntax seems like what a non programmer would imagine code looks like

@geroutathat

2 ай бұрын

Thats the main reason more people dont use it. I thought it was crazy at first but I really admire it after spending proepr time writing code in it.

@insideTheMirror_

Ай бұрын

Just my thought 🤣

@cycrothelargeplanet

Ай бұрын

Fr

@carlerikkopseng7172

Ай бұрын

Found the one who never tried anything outside the C family of languages 😸

@dstick14

Ай бұрын

@@carlerikkopseng7172 well they certainly haven't made it easy to like

Was literally checking your channel for new vids about 5mins ago. Good that I retried

@pookiepats

2 ай бұрын

the youtube algo has failed you

Erlang really intrigues me. And with Gleam running on top of it, I'm super Beam-curious now...

@blackjackjester

2 ай бұрын

Learn you some erlang for great good

@LtdJorge

Ай бұрын

@@blackjackjester Ferd is the boss. I also recommend his talk The Zen of Erlang. I've watched it like 7 times.

@RyanIsHoping

Ай бұрын

Gleam is awesome!!

Fireship, I have been meaning to say this, you are a gift to the programming world. You make programming fun. Thanks for that!

Great timing, im just getting into elixir. First i knew even less about the beam and erlang now it's a bit more!

Thanks for making this. I’ve been learning erlang in university, and I love its elegance. It isn’t meant to be a jack of all trades like some more popular languages, but no language can beat its parallelism at scale.

we need gleam for the next video!

1:11 my name is erl. love it.

@GSBarlev

2 ай бұрын

I wasn't aware that anyone besides me remembered that show.

@MarinoFrana

2 ай бұрын

My wife and me remember, so that makes four of us?

1:17 I love how you made the period red.

would love to see miranda or meta language, these are pretty basic but are taught in school at most places to get into function programming. banger video btw as always :)

Would love to see a vid about Gleam

Would love 100 seconds on these: - Turso - Zustand - tailwind v4 - gleam

@RyanIsHoping

Ай бұрын

Gleam seconded!

This was dandy sir. I'm glad you're opening this topic. I'm a big fan of your content, for its accuracy, concise, motivation starter and also its humour. This could be an opening for actor systems, I used Akka a good while ago, some others may have won the 'race' Microsoft had a good one as well, i think it was for C#

Ah, the prepwork for the Gleam episode tomorrow? :p

Gleam mentioned!!!!

@0e0

2 ай бұрын

LETS GO!!!

@lpil

2 ай бұрын

@@0e0Hack yeah!!!!!

So cool we have an access to all Erlang sweet parts without necessarity to learn the hard syntax and can utilize Elixir for the purpose

Woa. I would have never imagined that you'd make a video about the BEAM. You might want to have a look at how BEAM nodes can natively pass messages through process global registries. And hot code reload across nodes! I've used the BEAM professionally for a while now, but much more since Elixir reached 1.2 - that was a long time ago...

I vote for gleam next, seems fitting 😊

Excellent explanation of Erlang, concise and very informative. Found the parts about process isolation and message passing particularly helpful.

Pattern matching variable is so elegant and logical that I immensely ❤️

I was wondering what people are referring to when talking about Gleam. Thanks!

I'm in love with Gleam

@davidjustice8087

2 ай бұрын

Definitely interested in the language. Syntax is very nice and love the toolset kind of like go.

@chris-pee

2 ай бұрын

Unless you really need BEAM, you could just as well use OCaml/ReasonML/Rescript or F#.

@chudchadanstud

2 ай бұрын

no thanks. Variables are immutable and it doesn't throw an error when you try to reasign them. It's just another Lang that's gone too deep into Functional programming. It would have been perfect if it was willing to give up some of the fp philosophy for practicality. Otherwise we just have Haskell that looks like Rust running on Beam.

@LtdJorge

2 ай бұрын

@@chudchadanstudErlang is immutable too

@sarun37823

Ай бұрын

Did you say Grime? - Señor Cleanfist

Awesome! Not some stackmonkey stuff, but programming language introduction. What Originally started watching the series for. Please do an APL video! THX

I REALLY preferred your pacing in this video. It was just a touch slower and made it SO much easier to follow than some of your others

Great video as always. I think a "100 seconds of UML" would be a great future idea.

Learn you some Erlang for great good.

@elixirfun

2 ай бұрын

Better still, learn Elixir

The moment I've been waiting for!

One other crazy amazing thing is how the deployment works on a live system and calls can be concurrently executed. Previous change do all their execution with old version of code while newly deployed code is already being used for new calls.

The Alan Watts meme was brilliant.. as always, your memes are always on point

Erlang and Elixir are amazing ❤

Designed in 1986 yet still looks modern in 2024 - damn good design.

I remember writing a plugin for Wings 3D, an open source 3D modeling app written in Erlang. One thing that always tripped me up is that the language is purely functional, so all variables are immutable; they can't actually vary!

It looks surprisingly elegant when you put it this way...

@darrennew8211

Ай бұрын

The concepts are pretty elegant. The actual details are rather difficult to deal with. No strings, no records, single-assignment without being functional, no explicit time when code gets updated, the weirdness around authentication, and last I looked the documentation was extremely poor if you weren't already immersed in the environment. However, the seamless concurrency, the ability to upgrade running code (including sending functions in messages), the whole "spawn and link" paradigm, all very neat.

OMG! "Create a file ending in dot earl" with a pic of Earl from My Name Is Earl... Love it!!

I have a cool Eralng pocket knife. It was swag from an Erlang course I went on. I never completed it because I came down with pneumonia on the last day. But they were nice enough to give it to me. Probably written a five lines of Erlang in anger in my career.

Bro, the music that you use for these videos sounds like the GTA V online heist missions. Great video as always

First Fireship video in months that doesn't make me regret my life choices 😭

Just I start studying it. Seems very useful for low-latency distributed message-passing apps.

Scala in 100 seconds

@vishaldongre9557

2 ай бұрын

Scala in 100 seconds

@sexyolga479

2 ай бұрын

@@vishaldongre9557 Scala in 100 seconds

@apr0l

2 ай бұрын

@@sexyolga479 Scala in 100 seconds

@artieschmidt3039

2 ай бұрын

@@sexyolga479 Scala in 100 second

@__zotahina__

2 ай бұрын

Scala in 1 minute and 40 seconds

⭐️ gleam mentioned!

Errrrrrrlang is so powerful and multi-processing that it made 100s to 163 seconds. Erlang has the power to dilate time. Time dilation 💀

What a “coincidence” I was writing something about Elixir and then this notification arrived 🤩😄 My favorite language!

oooh bingo let me just put it on my resume

@davidneal1127

2 ай бұрын

Never not do resume-driven development. RDD FTW

Fireship, make some videos about networking technologies. IPv6, HTTP3, anything. I think they would fit well your video format.

@ardonjr

2 ай бұрын

agree!

Give us something about gleam and how in practice it is useful vs. some other languages. Like what's the point of gleam when we can do c/c++/rust/go or even js.

I was waiting for this one

Gleam mentioned lets go

I really enjoyed my time in erlang around 2009-2011.

I really love the learnesomeerlangforgreat good book and the whole actor methodology. It's a great paradigm and one day I want to make a programming platform in similar fashion too

BEAM is one of the coolest technology as i ever discovered. i should learn its internal sometime in the future along with v8

@egorsozonov7425

Ай бұрын

It’s not. Slow as hell

Mint, Imba, ReScript, ReasonML, Crystal in 100 seconds

Erlang is one of the major inspiration for Go.

I missed these kinds of videos

Could you make a video on Prolog next? Thank you for your awesome channel.

finally, ship you some erlang!!!

After teasing Prolog, you have to show it to us next!

Please do Elm in 100 seconds next!

thanks, i would like to see a video on the nim programming language

"Erlang mentioned, let's go"

A video on MPI would be a nice follow-up to this🎉

Now, I know Erlang. Thanks!

We've got a Gleam mention! We really need a Gleam in 100 seconds so we don't scare off folks with the Erlang syntax 😂

We’re making it outta concurrency century with this one 🎉

Re slow performance - later releases of the BEAM runtime now do jit compilation to machine code. Makes hot paths a bit quicker. For performance critical bits - you can call out to C abi shared libs. You can also write functions and resources in Zig, that use the beam engine for allocation and gc. Zig is one of the few languages that will play nice with this, because the whole zig stdlib takes an allocator argument where needed. You just pass it the beam’s allocator. Nice.

definitely one of the languages of all time.

wow a video about a topic that is not gonna haunt my future

Wow... I want to see more Erlang! 😇 Maybe a comparison video between Erlang, GLEAM, and Elixir?

@AnthonyBullard

2 ай бұрын

Brazil mentioned

I almost teared up seeing "Hi Mom", don't worry Jeff She is watching! Keep up the good work, I look up to you! May she rest in Peace

@cycrothelargeplanet

Ай бұрын

Wait that's why he writes "Hi mom"

@stevenpillay6725

Ай бұрын

@@cycrothelargeplanet yeah see his community post!

another cool part of erlang is its strict use of immutable data structures, and how it uses this to implement its garbage collector

This is even more fire than the CUDA one, POG

pretty sure I just learned all I need to know about Erlang

nice contant, keep it up, I like golang!

Thx 🙏🙏

Watching Erlang handle concurrency is like witnessing a juggler with a hundred arms-except instead of balls, it's handling processes, and instead of applause, it gets a round of bug fixes!

Finally i knw why my dev team needs this in our docker images 😂

I do react and typescript like the rest of the world, so anything related, thank you!!

Crazy how this complex multiprocess solution was later replaced by a much better and simple async solution. Always grateful for that

@carlerikkopseng7172

Ай бұрын

What are you talking about 😂 Throwing in async doesn't make an ounce of difference

Never heard of her until now, very cool

1:12 I thought I was the last surviving "my name is Earl" enthusiast on the globe.

Finally something without mention of AI

Good evening sir thank you for sharing this video tutorial and learning today 2:15

"Shikamoo mama" Love from Kenya👌