Eric Weinstein & Michael Shermer: UFO DEBATE!
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What is the nature of the abundant accounts of unexplained aerial phenomena? Are they harbingers of advanced extraterrestrial engineering, math, and physics, beyond our standard model? Or is there a more prosaic, though no less significant explanation, ranging from military operations, unreliable witnesses, or confirmation bias? Is our government sharing all it knows? Or is there really anything 'there' there?
Beyond wanting to believe, do we have any evidence for our beliefs?
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the irony of Shermer complaining about an image being blurry
@chrisbova9686
2 жыл бұрын
The issue is they need distractions in the time of the AI anti Christ so they can create chaos purposefully.
@Janko1972
2 жыл бұрын
I thought that too, but then he mentioned he was still using 56K dial up. Maybe he thinks Broadband is an impossible technology that will never replace Frequency Shift Keying.
@b0ondockz838
2 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@fancycrafts7774
2 жыл бұрын
I've not seen clear evidence of any Shermer.
@rahinc
2 жыл бұрын
The three things in life that are blurry: UFOs, Bigfoot, and Shermer.
Why is it that all the footage of Michael Shermer in this discussion is so grainy and blurry? I can't take his existence seriously until I see some HD footage.
@LLlap
2 жыл бұрын
Don't worry, I have firsthand experience of being abducted by Michael Shermer. That should settle any debate.
@dtown5id
2 жыл бұрын
Windows computer vs macbooks
@mart7379
2 жыл бұрын
We’ll said
@Astrologon
2 жыл бұрын
I guess it would be really funny if it was the skeptics mutilating the cows all along.
@pasifred8589
2 жыл бұрын
Maybe Michael Shermer is just blurry.
I'm so glad Eric is talking about this subject. When I first read the Times story and saw the military videos, I was shocked that it was business as usual the next day. What? How can we not be investigating this. No matter what this is we need to know. We should be getting our top SCIENTIFIC people on this.
@vintageplanet9376
Жыл бұрын
I feel like its the same situation as 'ghosts'. Some people (most) prefer to quickly dismiss certain things that scares them.
@redmed10
Жыл бұрын
@@vintageplanet9376 Do you believe in ghosts?
@vintageplanet9376
Жыл бұрын
@@redmed10 not sure but im sure about the fact that strange things have been reported for thousands of years. I keep an open mind
@redmed10
Жыл бұрын
@@vintageplanet9376 I believed in both when I was young, ghosts and UFO's. Gradually lost that belief as I got older. Mainly because of lack of proof. There are a lot of charlatans out there who make money and get fame by propagating these types of beliefs. I have come to look at why people believe these things rather than what they actually believe.
@richuniverse1060
Жыл бұрын
U need to do your own research on this subject. U need to get through all the fake news, debunkers with no education, you have to check FOI records, old CIA documents and understand who is telling the truth and who is part of the deep state that just want to brainwash civilians. Mankind’s history is far more in-depth than what we have been told. There was a civilization here that was more advanced than us that are no longer here. If you study Graham Hancock or Randy Carlson along with many more people then you’ll start to get the idea of what was here before us. Good luck in your endeavours. There are other forms of consciousness already here and have been for thousands of years. ALL “debunkers” (who are not skeptics), just lightly skim over topics but still firm opinions which is very easy to pick apart. Most skeptics like Eric have great questions. We really need to move past this and start contacting the other entities. Figure out the W-5’s.
I came here for EW, his combination of intelligence, wisdom and empathy is something I, personally, have never experienced. But I subbed for you and your content Dr. Brian. Please keep producing and Thank you.
@jimsubtle886
2 ай бұрын
I love your comment, thank you for adding to the community!
@Gavin-hg2kk
Ай бұрын
You realize Brian Keaton is just a skeptical skeptic? Like he is so bias he could be abducted and say it was just his mother....can you open your mind enough to see what is actually happening
I'm just s humble retired wood worker who was lucky enough to raise some very exceptional children and whenever I get to listen to your show with Eric I leave smarter and more hopeful that the world isn't going to burn down tomorrow.
@cireyenned
2 жыл бұрын
The world burning is a wood worker’s worst nightmare.
@faheyplayer
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah Jason, if only the world were as crisp and sure as a good mortise and tenon joint and some hide glue…
@markthebldr6834
2 жыл бұрын
Me too
@johnramirez5032
Жыл бұрын
Any nations worst enemy is apathy.
The zoom function on the FLIR pod is NOT like a normal camera! At no point does the POD lose track of the object when zooming x2. This is a misconception by Shermer and Mick who know little about how these systems work. Speak to fighter pilots or technicians who work with them. Alternatively, load up DCS World Sim and fly the F/A 18 Hornet and learn to use the FLIR pod.
@shaun906
2 жыл бұрын
cool worlds debunk the recent sightings on YT. His guest shows how the technology creates these effects, artifacts and optical illusions.
@Prod-23
2 жыл бұрын
Shermer doesn't care about details, never has.
@gingerbill128
2 жыл бұрын
you have never used a FLIR pod , dont act like an expert on them . Saying load up a retail product simulator and use one on there is a really bad argument. I played sims all my life and they are nothing like the real thing . Fun escapism yes , a real simulator , not even close. They simulate the plane ok for what they are but that's it. It's bordering on COD players who think they are experts on guns and combat.
@matthewlake182
2 жыл бұрын
@@gingerbill128 Eh, Fighter pilots use DCS World for training. Some air forces use it, included the US. And plenty of former fighter pilots on KZread can attest to its usefulness for procedural and systems training. Two fighter pilots: "This is way better than the sims we use in the Navy": kzread.info/dash/bejne/qZWZm7uzgbuwcbQ.html Again, you do some KZread searchers and Google searchers and you'll find fighter pilots comment on how good DCS World is. Yes, it's not perfect. Yes there are some features that are classified. But generally operating these systems is quite accurate. And yes I do use the FLIR pod in the F/A-18 and use VR to fly in DCS Sim. Go and look at my channel. Thanks.
@matthewlake182
2 жыл бұрын
@@gingerbill128 After you checked out the video in my previous response, you should also look at: The publicly available extreme-fidelity air combat video game is so accurate that actual A-10 pilots are now using it to train. thedrive.com/the-war-zone/40620/a-10-warthog-pilots-are-using-the-digital-combat-simulator-video-game-to-train-in-vr And there are more examples.
Michael Shermer - a professional skeptic. This says it all. His ability to be open minded about anything is 0.
@davethebrahman9870
Жыл бұрын
People of sense, particularly scientists, are sceptical of everything.
@kevinmm20
Жыл бұрын
Being a Skeptic doesn't mean you're closed minded at all. It's at the heart of the scientific method as well.
@sabineb.5616
Жыл бұрын
@@kevinmm20 , healthy skepticism is not just fine - it's necessary! But Mick West and Michael Shermer are compulsive debunkers! They often twist themselves into pretzels in order to explain away everything which doesn't fit into their fairly limited horizon, and unlike Eric Weinstein they are not willing to change their minds. I am not at all sure what to think about the new revelations about UAPs. However, I am fairly sure that Mick West's explanations don't work, and Michael Shermer is too credulous as far as Mick West is concerned 😂.
@xXxTeenSplayer
2 ай бұрын
Spoken like a true believer! Being skeptical is not the same as being close minded. In fact, believers are the ones who tend to be closed to new ideas.
Weinstein bears an uncanny resemblance to the Eraserhead theatrical release poster.
@swaggitypigfig8413
Ай бұрын
@Gavin-hg2kk
Ай бұрын
Not relivent but ok...
@rsmith7994
Ай бұрын
@@Gavin-hg2kk *relevant. Correct spelling would add gravitas to your reply. But okay…
Having watched academic freedom as a mere high school English teacher steadily erode over the course of my twenty years in profession has been the worst part of my job. Hearing Eric rant against the like at the university level is always inspiring
@dannnunn4821
2 жыл бұрын
As a nurse of 25+ years, on the short side of completing a NP degree, I feel the same way; except I am so repulsed by what I’ve witnessed with Covid, and then/now with this vaccine. I have lost all faith in medicine. In fact, I hear and see more integrity, values, and ethics from Ph.D’s. MD’s/medical community appear to be cowing down to threat’s instead of upholding our oath to “do no harm”. As a female, I did not grow up thinking about being drafted/having to fight in a war to protect my country, it’s values, humanity-but with every passing day, I welcome and frankly, am ready-it’s long past due; that.we the people unite and revolt every facet of this agenda being shoved down our education, healthcare, agriculture; everything seemingly reliant upon the government as a primary revenue source-the trend I keep circling back to is national gov’t involvement.
@TheHighlanderprime
2 жыл бұрын
But Eric in his own academic arrogance, is part of that swamp.
@benlogan100
2 жыл бұрын
@niles stone High school kids disagree, sir. Ask them. The loathe prefab curriculum, pacing guides, standardized testing, etc. They love it when they get to exercise a meaningful degree of control over the course of their own learning. They like being listened to in class discussions. This requires academic freedom at the “lowly” high school level
@collybeans586
2 жыл бұрын
benlogan100 - Yes I feel the same
@storksforever2000
2 жыл бұрын
@@dannnunn4821 Please don’t tell me you are one of those antivax nurses. That would put everything else you said into question.
Waiting on Mick West to blame it on swamp gas.
@andrewr311
2 жыл бұрын
Tis hot air coming from his ego
@jeffhayz7802
2 жыл бұрын
He was the self-proclaimed "smartest kid in the entire school" when he was young, so obviously he can't be wrong.
@magnuszetterqvist5936
2 жыл бұрын
😂👍
@scottpreston5074
2 жыл бұрын
It's just gas. Stop eating beans.
@tacitus539
2 жыл бұрын
I think it’s a swamp pelican this time. Innovative.
Shermer is so suspicious of everything, and everyone, except the military. He believes whatever they say.
I'm turning into a Eric Weinstein fan. He always offers a good perspective that leads to the fact that more data is available and needs to be released.
@peterfalcon9961
11 ай бұрын
I just posted a comment,,, Any thoughts from the Sts75 video?
@Lilladdish
9 ай бұрын
@@peterfalcon9961you don’t have to write that you posted a comment when you post a comment, we know anyway because we can see it.
@CharlesHarpolek4vud
7 ай бұрын
Learn how to decode Eric's shrouded comments.... It is all there but never right on the surface.
I gotta say, Eric Weinstein made a really powerful argument as to why this issue needs to be taken seriously. Bravo.
@DrBrianKeating
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks I agree with your thoughts
@yossarian67
Жыл бұрын
Elvin, would you consider our military “woo woo people”? Because they seem to be taking this issue very seriously.
@billbrasky7885
Жыл бұрын
@Elvin R You didn't answer the question. You clown.
@akun10years10
Жыл бұрын
@Elvin R "travel from another galaxy" bad strawman bro
@duellingscarguevara
Жыл бұрын
@Elvin R like a ghost of Kiev?
1:00:00 - Technology 1:02:50 - Antigravity Programs dating back to the 1950s! 1:18:36 - Centralized Narratives! 1:28:15 - This is key! Well said!
@iszotope
2 жыл бұрын
That centralized narrative segment is so spicy!
@Paul-sn5ng
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the link mate never heard this channel before many thanks mate 🇬🇧👍
@Paul-sn5ng
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate🇬🇧
@DrBrianKeating
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Paul
@bduros1339
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Jeremy!
I'm a retired Navy cryptologist. In July of 2000, I was outside just after sunset when a "tictac" UFO passed over my parents' house at a slow jogging pace about 10 feet above the roof ridge. It was a cylinder about the length of two mini vans bumper to bumper and had rounded ends. There were no wings, engines, windows, or seams. It made no sound and gave off a soft bluish light, not unlike neon. If it was one of ours , it is some next level $hit.
@peterkay7458
Жыл бұрын
have you heard of the pais effect. i think the blue light is cherchov radiation. sorry i spelled it wrong, my area of expertise is quantum semiconductor theory
@docwhiskey996
Жыл бұрын
I only hope it's one of ours.
@thoughtsuponatime847
Жыл бұрын
Like a blimp?
@andykod77
Жыл бұрын
Yeah that was me m8
@danielmccarthyy
9 ай бұрын
You were drunk.
Thank you, for this intelligent, very much needed conversation. Another great Keating podcast!
The volume levels on this were all over the place.
@tacitus539
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it was awful!
“Brian, you are doing stuff that nobody is doing.” Eric put it so perfectly, and he I am sure intended this compliment on more levels than just the obvious one. Thank you for what you are doing, what you do matters!
@DrBrianKeating
2 жыл бұрын
That means so much to me. Thanks Robert
@savage22bolt32
Жыл бұрын
March 2023 I tuned into this on you tube and learned this is Brian's last podcast. Sad ending to a great start..
@michael-4k4000
4 ай бұрын
Could you imagine a Trump/Weinstein 2024 run?
"Nobody has really figured out what generates the majesty of Jimi Hendrix"- what a fantastic statement, thank you Eric Weinstein.
@DrBrianKeating
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@19582607
2 жыл бұрын
Indeed. This applies to Bob Marley as well I find, and to Jimmy Page.
@jonsegerros
Жыл бұрын
really? most retarded false equivalence ive ever heard. but keep coping skeptics, its the smugness of your own sense of rightousness that keeps you alive after all
@gomey70
10 ай бұрын
Talent and practice.
Brian, this is a marvelous debate. One remark about the technical aspect, a simple but important one: Please be sure that the volume of the sound of each party is at the same level. Thank you!
Eric was brilliant and he was speaking plainly enough for me to follow him this time.
@rhuitt
2 жыл бұрын
Still absolutely impossible for him to provide a direct answer with out all sorts of distractions and metaphors. It is so frustrating.
@michael-4k4000
4 ай бұрын
Boy is Eric is a hunk
Eric "Let's not let Mick drive the bus unless he wants to come on right now" Weinstein. Made my fucking day. Love you, Eric.
@magnuszetterqvist5936
2 жыл бұрын
Wunderbar👍😂
@JellyBellyButter
2 жыл бұрын
Eric’s comment was so perfect!
LOVE the way you think and articulate your thoughts, Eric. Society is lucky to have you
Brilliant conversation. The value that somebody like Eric brings to these conversations cannot be overstated at this point.
@DrBrianKeating
2 жыл бұрын
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@robbailey6476
Жыл бұрын
@@DrBrianKeating Eric's initial criticism of this topic and many others is one of framing the discussion and pointing out the relevant questions. Personally I find that Eric can't seem to clarify these distinctions before getting muddled in an anecdote then distracted by another guest. I wish he could make a clear point and ask the most relevant question up front, without falling to the sides of this important task.
@NoflectioN
Жыл бұрын
@Rob Bailey Brian's ghost account^ 🤣
"Why is Mick West anywhere in the story?" -Eric Weinstein The most valid question of the century, thank you!
@LoneWolfDion
2 жыл бұрын
Because he offers rational explanations based on facts and reasoning?
@ethereummining3943
2 жыл бұрын
@@LoneWolfDion *Based on a hand-picked subset of the available data. He does not explain all the data and does not even have close to all data. There's none from the incidents that say this is BS. None. But believe an armchair debunker rather than real experts.
@LoneWolfDion
2 жыл бұрын
@@ethereummining3943 who are the real experts which have presented all the data and rational explanations. Is that not the point? Mick West uses data that's available on the screens of the videos that were released. How is he suppose to come up with an explanation with unavailable data?
@ethereummining3943
2 жыл бұрын
@@LoneWolfDion Those that have the data (USG/Pentagon/Navy), those that have received the UAP-briefing, those that actually encounter these (not sitting behind a computerscreen googling) say that there's a real phenomenon that needs to be understood. Did you miss that?
@ethereummining3943
2 жыл бұрын
@@LoneWolfDion Oh, btw. You just answered the question... "How is he suppose to come up with an explanation with unavailable data?": HE'S NOT, he should not participate by drawing most likely false conclusions. Just STFU and wait. He can speculate, like the rest of us. But he's not open to being wrong in the slightest.
Since you've had Mick West on you should do an interview with Chris Lehto, a former fighter pilot that has debunked Mick West's simulations. Perhaps having both of them on the podcast and debate each other would be interesting.
@cryptolicious3738
2 жыл бұрын
@Singularity yes, thirded ! and a Aegis radar engineer to do the math 2/3/4/5 SIGMA level calculation for multiple aegis radars to see the same 'dust' go hypersonic from still at 5000g ! IF its 5sigma , we can at least call them real signals
@KanakarisGeorge
2 жыл бұрын
@@cryptolicious3738 Spot on.
@patrickl6932
2 жыл бұрын
@Elvyn Jones The opposite is true.
@TheChadavis33
2 жыл бұрын
Fully agree. Chris highlights some key points that Mick doesn’t understand or just plain doesn’t know. I appreciate Mick and have doubt he’s super sharp. However, he just doesn’t know a lot of factors and methods when it comes gauging these videos. This is where Chris comes in to explain the depth of knowledge and skill needed.
@kelsto811
2 жыл бұрын
@@patrickl6932 Lehto's last debunk video destroys mick and exposes him for making a mundane error, one that clearly shows why mick shouldn't be speaking on flight physics and conditions until he takes some lessons to understand how the math and basics work first.
“Maybe Bigfoot is Blurry, and that’s extra scary. There’s a large, out of focus Monster roaming the Countryside” - Mitch Hedberg
@shananagans5
2 жыл бұрын
Maybe Bigfoot is stuck on a broken escalator. The big out of focus monster just isn't smart enough to realize the escalator simply turned into stairs.
@teachmeguitar4149
2 жыл бұрын
R.I.P one of the greatest comics ever. Mitch gone too soon 🔥
I have NEVER seen Michael Shermer so quiet on any topic. Not a bad thing... I think it is just a testament to how brilliant and logical Eric Weinstein is that the guy who has something to say about everything has not much to say.
@gomey70
10 ай бұрын
There's not a whole lot to say about something when there is zero real evidence. This whole topic is just fairy tales.
@phuklyyve8941
10 ай бұрын
@@gomey70 lol @ you
@origins7298
9 ай бұрын
@@gomey70Yes seriously, we have all of human history showing that people constantly make stuff up, constantly misidentify stuff, are imaginative and inventive... And incredibly prone to inventing the fantastical out of ordinary mundane experience... So what's more likely that this is more of the same? of people making up fairy tales?? or that this is really the great exception of actual extraterrestrials visiting us??? Seriously how likely is it that aliens would travel incredible distances under incredible painstaking effort and yet look very much like misidentified drones and misidentified tricks of photography? I mean come on All the evidence says that advanced civilization level life is incredibly rare and incredibly fraught with potential disaster. The universe is not a hospitable place towards life and especially towards advanced multicellular life that can create technology. Just look into supernovas and all the potential devastation to life evolving to multicellular complexity... Yet we do know that people love to create fantastical stories. And we do it by the millions every year. So guess what a trillion to one that this is just more fantastical stories that are not real
High resolution and clear photographs and videos assumes that the phenomena has no control over us capturing the images … That’s a very narrow-minded assessment for a genuine skeptic.
@richardconner1283
2 жыл бұрын
CHECKOUT THE BILLY MEIER PHOTOS,UFO,S OVER TURKEY,REPLETE WITH OCCUPANTS.THE RUSSIAN SKINNY BOB VIDEO & THE GULF BREEZE SIGHTINGS.ALL CLEAR PHOTOS & OR VIDEOS.
@craigknepley6021
2 жыл бұрын
There is no reason to assume that the phenomena can control our ability to capture images. Sure, it's possible. But you haven't provided any evidence to think so. It's possible that leprechauns can erase my memory of having seen them. But it's more reasonable to assume that there's no such thing as leprechauns.
Fravor and his wingman ( woman) said they saw a 40 ish foot “ white propane tank” object with no wings and no signs of propulsion react to them and disappear. What would Would they say to that? They were confused ? All four crewman? Then another pilot goes out and gets FLIR of the thing. Come on guys.
@stevencoardvenice
2 жыл бұрын
We dont what they saw. All we know is what they think they saw. If you've ever seen the Braingames series on National Geographic Channel, it becomes very clear to you how your own mind can cause you to see things that are not there, or see things the incorrect way, with naturally occurring optical illusions. Something that was 2 inches long might have been misinterpreted as "40 feet" long, due to the lack of perspective when flying over the featureless open ocean . I've done plenty of mushrooms and acid, so I know what it's like to experience illusions, and sometimes full blown hallucinations, depending on the lighting in a room. So I'm not wildly impressed by two people saying that they briefly saw something weird while they were flying in jets at 700 miles per hour over the sea. Even if we assume that they DID in fact see something real, then what they saw was most likely a hologram or some other form of classified technology being tested on the two pilots by the naval high command. Finally, there is always the possibility that the story is simply fabricated, and that the two pilots are Naval intelligence officers, and are part of a propaganda effort against the American public by the u.s. government. Aliens travelling across the galaxy to troll navy pilots for a few seconds is about a one in a trillion chance. There are thousands of more likely explanations. 500 years ago, people used to see "angels" and jesus everywhere. And ghosts and spirits. aliens are the modern version of those sightings
@dougg1075
2 жыл бұрын
@@stevencoardvenice all four minds were this confused? Enough to go public with it ? To testify in Congress? Man I don hi I so
@stevencoardvenice
2 жыл бұрын
@@dougg1075 Watch that brain series on national geographic. It doesn't matter how many people. Everyone is fooled, that's the point. Anyway, I mentioned several other explanations as well, besides optical illusions, such as some type of deception or propaganda by the navy against its own officers
@TheChadavis33
2 жыл бұрын
@@stevencoardvenice No one is saying we have to accept fully what the pilots saw. The problem is complete dismissal because it’s a eyewitness report. It allows you to discount it all and say “oh we don’t need to pay attention to this.” That’s ridiculous. Their story is compelling enough to take seriously, and when coupled with the other sensor data, and radar operator testimony…….how can’t you be curious to find out what’s going on???
@stevencoardvenice
2 жыл бұрын
Shady navy war games
"What incident?" "When?" "I'm sorry I'd have to do some research on it" - Michael Shermer
Dr Keating, your show is full of deeply interesting conversations by unique and brilliant guests....in fact, your show is so good that you almost (not quite, but almost) have a moral obligation to make sure the audio and visual quality of each show is top-notch. This was the first time I left your show without watching to completion, because the volume differential between you and your guests was too extreme. I'm sure you will fix this. Please fix this. Your show is fantastic and shouldn't lose views due to an overlooked production technicality. Also, look into the camera. Engage your audience instead of looking at the keyboard or off to the side of the screen. Notice Eric and Michael's rapt attention to the conversation. No looking away, or daydreaming, or monitoring something else. Take this as constructive criticism that is being offered ONLY because I love your show and want to watch it grow. Cheers!
@DrBrianKeating
2 жыл бұрын
I have fixed in subsequent episodes sorry
@michael-4k4000
4 ай бұрын
Could you imagine a Trump/Weinstein 2024 run?
Mick West and Michael Schermer should start a band that does YES-covers, but call the band NO. Thanks 👍😘🇸🇪
@vinny-lp5qv
2 жыл бұрын
lol
"Obscure scientists" is a very arrogantly “ACADEMIC” term. DATA, DATA, DATA!!! How about you guys get off your high horses and investigate to resolve the mystery via simple scientistic curiosity. DATA doesn’t guide curiosity when an event, albeit uncontrollable, but repeated independently from scientific control. Scientists will need to adapt and be creative to the phenomena as opposed to the other way around.
I'm genuinely interested in this discussion but all I want to do is make comments about how 3 smart guys can't figure out basic audio mixing levels. Maybe uap videos are blurry because they are phasing in and out of alternate realities... Much like the audio of this podcast...
It’s distressing so many people take the media at mostly face value and trust in what displays. I applaud these fellas for having a realistic view devoid of fantasy. It is important to dream, learn and practice empathy in your affairs regarding ones interactions with others in the field. Opinion and views can/will change as we learn, teach and discover.
Idk. Michael's face was so blurry. I don't think we should jump the gun and assume he was there talking.
@grahamjarman
2 жыл бұрын
lol
@faheyplayer
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I’ve heard Michael Shermer exists, but the evidence that this could really be true is so fuzzy as to stretch credibility, special pleading if you will. Do you think any of these guys will ever listen to experiencers? Not a chance. Do they realize most experiencers do not recognize entities they encounter as extraterrestrials, though some seem to be. Do they understand that there is far more evidence they haven’t bothered looking at; Eric says he has avoided this topic for many years “with ease”. Hey, let’s have another pointless discussion about the Fermi Paradox which is eternally puzzled that the aliens should be here, but aren’t. May I suggest we stop avoiding this topic “with ease”, it would be good for Eric’s mood. Best podcast around.
@smitty1371
2 жыл бұрын
Micheal is a skeptogram. I’ve seen this before… more study is needed ;)
As a skeptic I'm getting really tired of the 'cameras wre everywhere but why are the images always blurry' argument. Have you ever tried to snap a picture of the moon with your phone? It usually comes out to be a low resolution blurry mess. The moon subtends about 0.5° in the sky, and it is still a few orders of magnitude larger of what these supposed UAPs are said to be. Just because there are cameras everywhere doesn't mean the resolution or capture quality is very high. Sure, phones are everywhere, but how many people do you see with a Nikon P1000 in their pocket?
@DocDanTheGuitarMan
2 жыл бұрын
Agree completely. This is a weak argument that should be discounted.
@patrickl6932
2 жыл бұрын
So why do we keep hearing that "the navy has been spotting these objects for WEEKS on end...." Maybe bring your iphone and take a video. EVERY DAY FOR WEEKS? GTFOH
@TheChadavis33
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@FamousGSE28
2 жыл бұрын
@@patrickl6932 Maybe because these incidents being discussed happend 10-20 years ago. and you want to film a moving object while flying in a fighter jet. what do you think that footage wouldve looked like? Probably grainy and blurry. also, if you see the same thing everyday why bother filming it? the Plane camers already captured it.
@patrickl6932
2 жыл бұрын
@@FamousGSE28 An infrared camera "captured' the so-called tic tac. Many other Navy pilots and operators claimed to have tracked these objects for WEEKS on end... Not one photo? GTFOH
Thank you Brian for a great debate. Eric hit a home run while Michael got a walk to first. What has always fascinated me were radar confirmed UFO sightings through the decades. From the famous Washington sightings in 1952, to the Belgium incident on March 30, 1990 and the declassified 2004 USS Nimitz event, we have several radar confirmed reports of UFOs doing things that we can't .
After listening to Eric for many sections, I still can't figure out what he is saying.
As long as scientists are locked into a single criteria for evidence to discern facts or possible hypotheses, they’ll always end up having this blind spot about investigating the UAP phenomena. Sometimes, scientists should be curious enough to seek out data as opposed to always sitting back asking for it. This is the difference between Avi Loeb and the scientists that the likes of Schermer represents.
All Shermer does is quote from books he's read, and Mick Wests cartwheels have been thoroughly debunked now
@populisttrope9385
2 жыл бұрын
His comparison of the 90s area 51 interest and today's UAP discussions is dishonest.
"The zoom is going from 1 to 2" This is the kind of willful ignorance we're dealing with. This guy could be abducted by aliens tonight and pretend nothing happened.
They dismissed eye witness testimony, the videos were not great but these things could shift with no sonic boom. The most superior Radar equipment with a witness had them moving at 23,000mph, dropping thousands of feet in under a second. The sceptics slating the grainy video and the sound and picture was duff on their podcast. Smart guys that are so out of place discussing the topic,,, get up to speed on the subject or your condescending comments mean nothing.
I love this! Two of my favorite people talking about my favorite thing! Thank you Brian!
@DrBrianKeating
2 жыл бұрын
You’re welcome!
Michael Shermer needs a deep dive into the vast amount of UFO footage available online. He seems almost dogmatic in his skepticism. A fallen hero of mine
@TheShootist
2 жыл бұрын
no. MS needs to believe what is obviously not true.
@ZalexMusic
2 жыл бұрын
Have you seen JRE 962? Same shit.
@patrickl6932
2 жыл бұрын
It's all blurry nonsense. Just stop.
@patrickl6932
2 жыл бұрын
@@babaka3278 Sounds like you're just upset that MS doesn't believe that aliens are here flying around in space ships.
@patrickl6932
2 жыл бұрын
@@babaka3278 Your post is nonsense. Back it up, coward. Give one example.
Amazing conversation as always. Are they saying that corruption can happen anyone, including their institutions....no, say it ain't so. I think honesty needs to be enforced and not begged. Eric is right on, release the damn data . Shermer's even keel perspective is a must as well. Great work to you all
@mikefuller363
Жыл бұрын
not much data to release
Eric is the only guy out there essentially asking for more physics. What a mad world.
@pablokaufervinent8012
Жыл бұрын
I think you are mot following physics closely. All physicists know our theories aee incomplete and some are working on solutions and Grand theory reconciling gravity and quantum mechanics. Howevrt this is very difficult to solve and people have not cracked it yet.
@gomey70
10 ай бұрын
He's welcome to come up with some himself.
Really gota hire someone to run the podcast so you can focus on the guest! And get the audio levels right lol
@ZalexMusic
2 жыл бұрын
Seriously. The audio is killing me.
@thestonedandstripped
2 жыл бұрын
Complainers are complaining for the sake of complaining. Lame sauce if you are a complainer. Complaining really reveals how inadequate the complainer is concerning this. Such complaining about it 🙄.
@davidloeffler1552
2 жыл бұрын
Had to stop watching because the audio levels were so far off. Major fail.
Anyone who was even moderately curious and willing to do some digging is *not* surprised by the reality of "the phenomenon" bubbling up into visibility (and therefore finally becoming fair game for serious discourse in polite, serious company). I say this as a critical thinking fan, career physical chemist and at least moderately well-established research scientist. I admire Dr. Weinstein's logic and openness here. With a bit more reading, perhaps some of J. Vallee's books, perhaps field notes from NIDS, he will soon be within range of getting all the corners of the sheet to fit. At that point, I think the field will benefit greatly from the clarity of his voice (unless he completely loses patience with the ufo community...for which i would not blame him).
@Dylan-zm3ht
2 жыл бұрын
Explain what you mean. I’m not very smart
@storksforever2000
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah it’s really annoying that so many of the people actually interested in and working in the subject make so many assertions with zero evidence to back it up.
@mysterbear
Жыл бұрын
Good point, J. Curtis. But the UFO community is hardly a community at all. If they were a community, they’d probably have moved this issue forward a couple decades ago. I’m on their side, though. There do seem to be other intelligences of some sort in our midst. It’s more than just speculative. And it’s not about belief. We really ought to look at this with both eyes, and stop whistling in the dark.
@sabineb.5616
Жыл бұрын
J. Curtis, it's a pity that Eric Weinstein only started very recently to acknowledge certain phenomenons and observations. Oh, well - better late than never. Unlike most professional hyper-sceptics he is willing to change his mind! And yes, he definitely should have a long conversation with Jacques Vallee, who has a great mind and who is by no means uncritical. Many UFO believers are not aware that Vallee changed his mind about the extraterrestrial origins of certain phenomenons many decades ago. And he also acknowledges that we should not underestimate that many governments engage in clandestine disinformation campaigns. Yes, Eric Weinstein should definitely consult Jacques Vallee!
EXTREMELY engaging exchange by three VERY brilliant thinkers! Thank you all!!!
@DrBrianKeating
Жыл бұрын
Thank you too!
Always a pleasure to hear good debate, brilliant contribution by Eric on the concept of promoting brilliant new and young brains , this is where our future lies ,once u crack the source code the possibilities are practically endless.
@DrBrianKeating
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks very much Noel!!
Loved it, thank you for your work and dedication to bring this discussions to the general public. Warm salut from Portugal
@DrBrianKeating
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks as always my friend
Shaming Shermer never pays attention. Fraver has told us what those numbers on the screen meant play by play.
@alquinn8576
2 жыл бұрын
yeah but Fravor didn't do any math
@themessengertv2108
2 жыл бұрын
@@alquinn8576 fravor didn't do math? come on man. if you are denying this phenomenon, at this point it's only out if ignorance or personal bias. Even Obama has given validity to this subject.
@justintaylor2938
2 жыл бұрын
@@alquinn8576 so pilots who have to navigate, constantly making calculations and adjustments for direction, vector, speed, acceleration, deceleration, temperature, altitude, engine rpm, torque, air pressure, weather conditions, radar, communications, etc. aren't doing the math?! What kind of fantasy world do you and schmucker live in lol? It's one thing to be a skeptic for the sake of science but downright ignoring and avoiding information is a whole other motivation.
@alquinn8576
2 жыл бұрын
@@justintaylor2938 yeah and when i drive my honda civic around a banked curve in the road, i am doing classical mechanics in my head?
@justintaylor2938
2 жыл бұрын
@@alquinn8576 where talking about general math not classical mechanics and theres a big difference driving in a 2 dimensional plane vs 3d airspace lol.
With the aspect of incremental technological growth, there should also be an importance placed on exponential growth factors. At some point technologies start to influence the speed of development of other technologies. Meaning a, "Big Leap", in technological advancement is not unlucky. Nor is it mathematically impossible, or improbable.
It’s frustrating while listening to this, I’m noticing, that this panel isn’t privy to Commander Fraver breaking down the tic tac videos data showed on that radar screen in his Rogan Podcast, and others I believe. Taking Fraver’s word on it of course, it appears pretty cut and dry.
Omg it’s the holy trinity of podcasters talking about the holy grail of topics
@marcsalzman8082
2 жыл бұрын
Holy Trinity, holy moly. Not even the Holy TRINITY's altar boys, helpers, or secretary's.
audio levels: 110%, 10%, 100%
@jenner9084
2 жыл бұрын
With these guests you’d think he’d have it figured out by now ,
@billlyons7024
2 жыл бұрын
I'm sure Brian is aware and working on it. I'm inclined to be pretty forgiving considering the quality of these discussions. But it was jarring at times.
@Jason-gt2kx
2 жыл бұрын
I didn't want to say anything but yes he needs to adjust his audio.
@ChaseMoskal
2 жыл бұрын
@@billlyons7024 brian is not aware of it: he botched the recent mick west interview the same way. he's gone full-boomer on this
@marcsalzman8082
2 жыл бұрын
We're not going to get much false humility from these guys & hey that's a good thing !! Who needs FALSE humility and/ or modesty, even from an Arrogant know nothing like SHERMER !!
"If I was the government I'd come talk to a guy like me" is the best quote ever!
It’s your honesty and integrity that has kept you out of the loop. The military industrial complex would love to have your brain at their service, but it’s your personalities that they don’t want to deal with.
I enjoy listening to Eric, but by no means would he be healthy in political office. He does not believe that citizens should have the say so
I smoked a few joints, got fuzzy vision and I thought Dr keating was lex friedman for a second or three 😊
you can say pilots make errors of perception but that ignores the fact of the radar data that backs their claims up.
@satorified1612
2 жыл бұрын
So true. This is a common trait of these supposed “debunkings”; ignore the facts that don’t fit their narrative.
I used to wish that the UFO phenomenon will be some non-human technology that could aid with the advancement of human kind and the world. Now, I just want to see Shermer's face when all his "skeptical" explanations are proven wrong and dogmatic..
@etai5276
2 жыл бұрын
@Thomas Freeman Problem with Shermer is that some of his skepticism is simply dogmatic. When 4 navy pilot and a few radar operators admit they witnessed a technology that is beyond our current human capabilities, and Shermer thinks that it is likely an instrument glitch, he is moving beyond healthy skepticism.
@etai5276
2 жыл бұрын
@Thomas Freeman I agree that evidence is key. But notice that the claim Weinstein is making is not, "we are being visited by aliens". The claim is that the scientific community has been denied the proper data that is needed for the right people to evaluate this phenomenon. And for that claim there is plenty of evidence. People should be demanding more transparency and data sharing from the government, and I think Weinstein is correct to be upset about that.
@zane62135
2 жыл бұрын
@@etai5276 Shermer's skepticism is entirely warranted. When you are claiming that alien spacecraft visit our planet, that requires substantial evidence. Not a few blurry videos that can be explained by glare and other phenomena. Are you aware of how unreliable and stupid humans can be? History is littered with story after story depicting absolute nonsense that large numbers of humans are committed to. Witches, trolls, the walking dead, gnomes, dragons, contradictory religions, etc etc. Aliens happen to be what is popular now. If you were born back in ancient Rome you'd be going on about Pegasus and griffins sneaking around.
@MultiBikerboy1
2 жыл бұрын
@Thomas Freeman ‘ one theory is that there would be panic’. Well certainly to my mind anyway you’ve hit the nail on the head. I believe what we are witnessing now is the roll out of disclosure to a tightly controlled narrative aimed to avoid exactly what you describe. I’ve been around this subject for a long time as I had the fortune (or misfortune depending on what way you look at it) to see a saucer come right overhead at 1,000 feet one evening in the 70’s. Trump is the one who pushed the green light on this, if you don’t think so see the ‘Phil Larson declaration’ issued out by the Obama/Biden administration in 2011. All credit to Micheal Shermer for stepping up to the plate to bat against what is and will be a continuing stream of data being outed designed to acclimatise the inhabitants of this planet that we are not alone and most likely never have been. Something I’ve known for over 50 years. The conversation is only going to get more interesting and profound.
@MultiBikerboy1
2 жыл бұрын
@Thomas Freeman sounds a good philosophy to be honest. I believe that the fear of panic is overplayed. There are always going to be people in society who will find it difficult to handle a paradigm shift. A survey was done some time back and they over found over 60% of US citizens believed in a UFO presence. My two friends and I were 1% when we saw this craft, I’m now in my mid 60’s, I want to see the enigma of my lifetime solved before I pass on. These craft are real, run silently and some look exactly as Bob Lazar described them.
It'd be mind-boggling if tech associated with UAP helped confirm the fascinating theoretical work made by Eric on Geometric Unity.
If you don't open your mind to the posibilities, you will never discover them.
Would love. To hear these 3 gentlemen discuss California's attempt to reduce advanced math education to all because it is not attainable by all.
Is he suggesting we could have recorded these crafts with our cell phones
One problem; most if these discussions are mostly about recent years and the USA but there is so much more than this.
@Ismith019
2 жыл бұрын
I know right? How the discussion came off to me was of 2 people who are trying to make the facts fit their conclusions and thus limiting any serious consideration and immediate dismissal of glaring other facts. Smugly ignoring countless credible testimonies and falling back on “Occams Razor” like its some how a law of nature. If Occam’s razor was a law and determined the progression/direction of scientists, then we would have stopped with Newton and everyone would have dismissed/ignored Einstein the way keiting and shurmer do to anyone who makes any claims about UFO’s. Eric is making a good faith appeal to a scientific approach to the topic when a lot of the data is fuzzy and you can see how defensive they get and the gymnastics they’re doing to not address the fundamental question Eric’s asking. One example being, what does the incompetence of the pentagon have to do with the evidence that UFO’s are real? Or what does it matter the motives behind the writers of the NYTimes column have to do with the facts behind the events? It’s like Eric is playing checkers and they are playing pick up sticks.
@andrewr311
2 жыл бұрын
@@Ismith019 Absolutely agree and yeah; Ockham's Razor, it's like it fell from heaven for some [people.
Hearing Eric touching on aspects of our society throughout this makes me depressed about the state of the world... Lol. Great content though I agree with Eric. What you're doing is great and nobody does it.
Shermer's hypothetico-deductive inference ("if military pilots are seeing UAP everyday, then everyone else should be seeing them just as frequently.") is problematic. It assumes there is no intentionality behind the phenomenon to be scene by military personnel. We cannot use that assumption as a premise to argue for mundane explanations.
Sometimes listening discussions on UFOs and the paranormal keeps me sane from the present mainstream reality. Feels like the 90s again!
"It wasn't a weatherballoon, it was a weatherballoon"... The crash test dummies were dropped like 5 years after Roswell. How can Shermer not know this?
@ethereummining3943
2 жыл бұрын
@James Wimer That's not what he said. He named 5 other people not in the conversation that could potentially look at the data. But his point is really: release the data for everyone to look at and draw conclusions from.
@LoneWolfDion
2 жыл бұрын
@@ethereummining3943 Eric wants Ed Witten to work on this. Not sure why. High school geometry is more than enough to test various claims made by the pilots.
@DocDanTheGuitarMan
2 жыл бұрын
I think Roswell is likely garbage but dropped a dummy from 10,000s of thousands of feet to see what happens. That’s frankly stupid to believe they would do that.
@hemanag1020
Жыл бұрын
Because he doesnt want to see it. His financial security depends on his stance.
Another interesting and enjoyable podcast, thanks Brian. Sorry I didn't make the live broadcast.
@DrBrianKeating
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jim! Have a great weekend!
The Reality and Spirituality of Life in the Universe is not what you think it is. Educate yourself. Begin with the Allies of Humanity Briefings. Many of us know now.
@chrisbova9686
2 жыл бұрын
About what's about to happen in 2022?
This dissatisfaction with Navy Fighter pilot footage being grainy and out of focus. Is to discredit it being a UFO/UAP . Now remember these UFO/UAP operate in the vastly space we call the sky where we don’t spend our natural time in. Unless your a pilot and that’s for just hours in a day. And they’ve been known to travel faster then anything we operate. So they are high in the sky and ridiculously fast. How do you expect to get a great high definition exposure ? Think about that. Your best camera phone does not have the great zoom capability. And as you know the more you zoom in on something at a distance the image gets worst and if your not on a tripod it’s so sensitive to shakiness. And know if the public where shown a detailed high definition image of a UFO/UAP. It would be discredited by the skeptics as fake and photoshopped. Thank you for your time.
15:00 - 19:00 EW nails it... THAT the data exists, HOW it exists, and WHERE it's kept, is what's important to discuss here. That has the potential to reshape the zeitgeist. He also makes a great quick point for listeners, especially 'ufologists', to take to heart for their own mental health (imo): "I desperately want to meet aliens..." but there's other stuff in the world worth caring about!
@spracketskooch
2 жыл бұрын
Yes, but at the same time, we need obsessed people in every field. They're the ones who usually make breakthroughs.
@roseg2239
2 жыл бұрын
It's really not. Two completely different topics.
After watching Michael and Eric discussing the UAP issue, I'm even more convinced that Eric should have a chat with Mick West. Moderated by Brian Keating 👍
@AlienScientist
2 жыл бұрын
Count me in! I have already had a few interesting discussions with Mick West before a lot of new information cams to light..
Audio could use some work, maybe do a test before broadcast to adjust the mics. I love this conversation. Thank you for hosting this.
No that's not why we have a Nuclear Triad Strategy. The triad assures MAD, it is a defense strategy.
Mick West thanks for the lack luster debunking that ever person directly involved has said his conclusions are not relative.
Shermer bothers me. He seems so dismissive. When Eric talks about taking UFOs seriously and not just stick our heads in the sand... He's indirectly pointing the finger at Shermer, who is the biggest advocate for head in the sand dismissal of even the most creditable cases like those that disrupt our nuclear weapons. Shermer's M.O. is to make fun of the topic with little green alien dolls. In my view his defiant attitude does a disservice to the serious research of the UFO phenomena.
@reinforcedpenisstem
2 жыл бұрын
They could prove him wrong tomorrow. They won't though.
@ethereummining3943
2 жыл бұрын
This is a description of any debunker. That's what they get followers and money from. Telling (some) people what they want to hear. The most comfortable reality. But guess what; Reality is what it is, and the truth will get out sooner or later.
@matthewlake182
2 жыл бұрын
Shermer has no idea what he's talking about when he brings up the zoom function no the FLIR pod. At no point should the pod lose track of an objection when you zoom. It does not operate like a normal camera in that way. If he truly wants to understand this, he ought to speak to fighter pilots or someone who works on these pods. Or he can load up DCS World flight sim and operate the FLIR pod with the F/A 18 C Hornet.
@reinforcedpenisstem
2 жыл бұрын
@@ethereummining3943 Actually it's more profitable to propagandise than to debunk.
@ethereummining3943
2 жыл бұрын
@@reinforcedpenisstem Ask Thunderf00t. He gets away with calling Go Fast a duck, and got almost 1 million subscribers. Anyone can say what people want to hear, but it's not ideal if you want to find the real truth IMO.
A thought provoking conversation. And, the pixel art of Michael Shermer was uncanny at times.
"Low quality images". That's strange since these are taken by the airforce using some of the most sophisticated eqipment deviced by man. Equipment that is designed to let the airforce positively spot and follow anything and everything within their airspace. They lock onto real, physical objects that are there, that are able to manoeuvre in ways and with a speed that we have no clue on how to replicate. And finally, when the military and mainstream media are actually willing to openly talk about it these snobs complain about it. They have been smirking and ridiculing people who have been talking about this for decades and now when actual, credible information hits mainstream they are irritated about it and tries to twist the whole issue into something political.
@christopherhamilton3621
2 жыл бұрын
A thermal camera has nothing like the resolution of an optical camera. Still a valid question…
Having had my own personal experience i started thinking a lot about this issue. I feel like there has been good reason for the powers that be to keep things quiet. The implications of some other intelligence lifeforms will change our relationship with ourselves, technology, the planet as well as our new neighbors. This seems to me to be such a destabilizing event that no power structure would want to do it for fear of bringing down the whole house of cards.
@everythingevil76
2 жыл бұрын
But they will do it. It’s being orchestrated
@tearlelee34
2 жыл бұрын
The scale of the Universe is hard to comprehend it's practical to assume most of our species believes life exist elsewhere.
@lanceward540
2 жыл бұрын
Not to mention religion
@steec6713
2 жыл бұрын
This is a widespread thought
@npmerrill
Жыл бұрын
@@tearlelee34 And impractical (read: improbable) that any of it would be close enough in the vastness of spacetime to make contact. Moreover, belief is not particularly relevant to reality.
I think it's an ancient terristeral entity of some kind
I think four trains pilots can tell that something is a plane or looks like a tic tac. These pilots and technology are good enough to keep them alive and to protect us. But they describe what they see and it's not believed?
These men all seriously underestimate the impact this new tech will bring. The science and materials exist on earth. It isn’t very expensive overall. So if this tech gets out Lockheed Martin loses its cash cow as its propulsion systems are made obsolete. Lockheed Martin made more money than any other private contractor last year! They have no reason to let this tech out into the world!
They completely ignored the fact that the "zooming object" was seen on radar "zooming"a week before the Fravor incident. Two of the radars were recalibrated and still showed the same tracks. This was seen by a halicoptor also. These objects did amazing things on radar, then Fravor was sent out... They're focusing on the video...
Dr. Keating, can you get Eric W. Davis, an astrophysicist who worked as a subcontractor and then a consultant for the Pentagon U.F.O. program on your show?!
Unfortunately this conversation happened 2 years too early! Especially Michael Shermer's contributions didn't age well! I have been very familiar with his brand of ultra-skepticism for two decades, and I have to say that his outputs sometimes skirt the realms of intellectual vandalism! I have actually talked my physicist husband into unsubscribing the "Skeptical Inquirer" because of it's pervading intellectual disonesty! I don't think that he fully adopted my pov - but I guess he grew tired of the magazine's constant rehashing of the same old battle ground! Post David Grusch's statements we are in a very strange corner: if his incredible stories are actually true, we aren't very far from a fundamental paradigm shift. Eric Weinstein has already apologized for his earlier tendencies of ridiculing certain UFO communities. But let's assume that David Grusch's claims are not true: personally I exclude that he was actually lying under oath - which could actually result in a jail sentence - but he might not have been given genuine material, and he may have been told a bunch of lies! In this case we have to assume that some shadowy factions within the Pentagon and the Secret Service have been orchestrating a long-running disinformation campaign in order to fool friends and foes into believing that the US is in possession of 👽 👽 👽 or at least non-human technology! But wouldn't that be one of those whacky conspiracy theories which Michael Shermer is so fond of ridiculing just as much as ridiculing those who believe that UFOs are real?? But he cannot have it both ways! It's either UFOs and non-humans or a giant turd of a conspiracy! Eric Weinstein is the only one of the trio who has fully understood this! And say what you will about Eric Weinstein - the guy is willing to change his mind and he is also willing to leave his comfort zone!
Shermer, like many people, points to cellphone cameras. If you have ever tried to take a video, zoomed in, of a distant object you will find they are all blurry and of poor quality. These cameras aren't not made for such things. They are made to take photos and video at relatively close distances
The primary reason we're not really looking is people like Michael Shermer.
@magnuszetterqvist5936
2 жыл бұрын
Agree 👍😘🇸🇪
@hodorfashodor2947
2 жыл бұрын
Right he’s like “it’s not aliens” okay then what is it? “I don’t know”. You’d be better off saying nothing, I feel like.
@chrisbova9686
2 жыл бұрын
It's the government, in some cases holograms. It's deception. They have been getting ready for this time for 2000 years.
@8474Starscream
2 жыл бұрын
Michael's denial is fueled by fear. I live up in the mountains. At night when you look up into space & see all the stars & Galaxies. It's absurd to think we are the only intelligent life out here. It's unintelligent to think so and extremely narcissistic
@chrisbova9686
2 жыл бұрын
@@8474Starscream that's if you believe in scientism. They can't form life in a jar, and they sure can't form intelligent life in a jar. Golden proportion. Throughout all kingdoms.
Love the show but Brian please improve your audio I can barely hear you.
@ZalexMusic
2 жыл бұрын
He changes it midway through, so we can barely hear anyone except him.
Eric thank you so much for being the most honest human on earth 🌎💕
My shared with friends Close Encounter sighting was about 1975. I get a kick out of the skepticism that gets covered instead of the ramifications of having ET's in your environment. People can be sooooo slow to grasp ramifications.
good talk fellas. you're leaving me with more to think about
this was one the most exciting podcasts you have done yet. i am big e8 fan so i am big eric fan by default. lol no i think eric an his brother brett an you also dr. brian keating are doing great maybe even yalls best work with yalls platforms an informing an teaching the masses with the most powerful tool an weapon to exist knowledge thank you for making things happen
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Just curious, how did you become, and what sustains you as an E8 fan? The beauty of the idea, or actually-superior fit to the particle data and agreed-upon, testable predictions? If the latter, any refs you have would be appreciated.
If Michael Shermer wants to complain about blurry videos, he's got to get his stuff together. He's blurrier than bigfoot.
thank you for fixing the volume!!