How big a draw was Ric Flair in the wrestling business? Let us know in the comments below!

@WidebottomRumblemuffins

4 ай бұрын

Throughout the late 70s and early 80s he was probably 2nd only to Hogan, IMO

@jerelfritts8880

4 ай бұрын

He basically carried the N.W.A. on his back in the '80's and early 1990-91 and when he came back to WCW after his stint WWF ( now WWE). He drew more than Hogan, Savage, and The Rock combined. Flair brought the fans and the money and that's remarkable being in a regional promotion at the time.There was times Flair wrestled seven nights a week in different parts of the country and world. You have to remember when Hogan was in his first run as champion in WWF-WWE he only wrestled a couple times a month and most of his challengers could had took the belt off of him but Hogan and his backstage politics and plus Vince Jr. not fully letting him actually wrestle ( he was a three move wrestler until he had wrestle Ultimate Warrior). When McMahon basically drove the other promotions out of business and destroyed the territory system, it made wrestling at the time one sided

@themalacast

4 ай бұрын

Engagement farming

@kenterminateddq5311

4 ай бұрын

Ask fans from WCW and NWA fans. The "WE WANT FLAIR!" chants were loud AF at times.

@RealYRM

4 ай бұрын

There gets to be a point with any top guy where it feels like they've been on top for long enough... but the thing with Ric Flair is that even when Ric was at the top, he was putting guys over. Ric would lose the belt, get it back, make people look good in the ring... you remember Sting, Steamboat, Windham, Vader, Dusty, Magnum TA, Terry Funk, etc. Those guys were still main events. The only guys who really feuded with Hogan that had juice AFTER it was over were Macho Man and Piper. For the most part, after Hogan squashed a guy, they had no value at the top of the card after that. They'd be built up for Hogan to smash, then back down to the mid card or high mid card.

I love that in-ring promo where Eric told Flair to calm down before he had a heart attack and Flair said "if I die of a heart attack it'll be on top of your girlfriend pal!" 😂

@pri0r_t0_a_weekago...fukwi48

3 ай бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

@isaacshaver6218

Ай бұрын

That's badass for shure lol😊

"Fire me ? I'm already fired" - Ric Flair

@davidjones6470

4 ай бұрын

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

@laithamekir5778

4 ай бұрын

*elbow drops the mat*

@mayson9817

3 ай бұрын

@@laithamekir5778 elbow drops his jacket

@laithamekir5778

3 ай бұрын

@@mayson9817 Woooooooooo! *Flips over top rope, struts the ring apron. Climbs back through the ropes and elbow drops the microphone.* Wooooooooooo!

Chris Jericho - "Before one show, we had a big meeting backstage, and Eric was giving us this speech about how he was going to put Vince out of business in six months, guaranteed. And he knew how to do it. The rest of the guys didn’t because, Eric said, nobody in the room had ever drawn a dime except for Hogan, Savage, and Piper. Ric Flair-one of the greatest draws of all time-was sitting right there, and everybody’s kind of looking at him, and he just had to take it. It was a very bad atmosphere."

@joshuasteward6097

4 ай бұрын

Isn't it a fact that those 3 outdrew Flair?

@a.h.5943

4 ай бұрын

Yeah, it is 🙈 Still unwise to say that though

@diamondlife8086

4 ай бұрын

@@joshuasteward6097they may have but does that mean that Flair didn’t draw at all??

@johncastanya6125

4 ай бұрын

​@@diamondlife8086i think he meant on a large scale

@x7251z

4 ай бұрын

@@joshuasteward6097 Not Piper. WWE and WCW never let Piper win a World Title.

Eric Bischoff, an initial American Wrestling Alliance (AWA) guy who left Verne Gange's AWA for Ted Turner's World Championship Wrestling (WCW) in 1990/91, pretty much buried the WCW roster for a bunch of Vince McMahon's World Wrestling Federation (WWF) cast aways. Eric was always a mark anything the WWF/E had.

I've never heard a legal department tell management to announce to the staff that one employee is going to get sued into bankruptcy... He announced it but I don't think anyone in legal told him to do that.

@thomass789

16 күн бұрын

To your point, just the opposite, legal would forbid management from discussing any legal action between an employee and the company. Eric is full of crap, here.

@DankHillCometh

6 күн бұрын

@@thomass789 That's not entirely true, this was a message to the other talent, a warning.

@DankHillCometh

6 күн бұрын

@@thomass789 Also you weren't there to even be 100% certain that this party did this or that over 26 years ago.

Nothing is worse than words leave your mouth and seconds after you're like... oh, wait... fuck.

@rzn2258

5 күн бұрын

There is such a thing as... Sincerely Apologizing for what you said. MAYBE YOU'VE HEARD OF IT !!! But judging by your comment.. You most likely haven't. You should really look into it.

At least Ric got Eric back by "attacking" him backstage in WWE.

@MarkVersion1

4 ай бұрын

ah the fake punch incident😆🤣

@SlickTV.

4 ай бұрын

Wooooo!

@jeff-ds2pr

4 ай бұрын

Throwing those work punches. lol. Surprised Flair didn't try to slip a razor blade to Eric during this while yelling "Come on, sell already you SOB!".

@kenterminateddq5311

4 ай бұрын

Congratulations, @@jeff-ds2pr . Your comment made me laugh my head off. :)

Cool Eric owned up to this.

@eveningstar4543

4 ай бұрын

Eric is actually starting to grow on me the older I get.

@WidebottomRumblemuffins

4 ай бұрын

@@eveningstar4543 LoL... It took me quite a while to be able to admit that to myself!!!

For the record Ric claims to have asked for that time off, so it's really about who you wanna believe. Eric was still wrong imo. Can you imagine Tony Khan disrespecting Sting like that in front of everyone and then saying hes gonna sue him until he's broke because he missed a Collision taping? Lol unimaginable now but Biscoff did it to the legit GOAT.. Wooooo!

@lfc200506

4 ай бұрын

Tony khan needs to be liked though he wouldn’t say a thing to any talent

@liberalismisahatecrime4385

4 ай бұрын

Vince fined Austin for him no showing dates and taking time off without notice. Put yourself in the promoter's position, you're trying to make money and one of your big pieces isn't there and it can mess up what you have going on. How are you supposed to take that if you're the guy who has to make decisions? I don't know that Bischoff disrespected Flair publicly, in front of other talent maybe but who cares, everyone's just there to make money and they should understand how it works.

@farajicouncil4496

4 ай бұрын

​@@liberalismisahatecrime4385they weren't using flair at the time

@joshuasteward6097

4 ай бұрын

​@@farajicouncil4496Is filling out the paperwork that hard?

@farajicouncil4496

4 ай бұрын

@@joshuasteward6097 he asked for permission once he was told no tf he gonna waste time with paperwork for when he already had the answer.

Now when Conrad asked him this. Bischoff didn't recall doing that to Ric.

@LordZaayl

4 ай бұрын

Conrad's interviews are so bland and formulaic I can't blame the guests for not putting thought into it.

@mateo7650

Ай бұрын

Eric has told this story on 83 weeks at least half a dozen times

@sdd619

Ай бұрын

@mateo7650 yet he lies on that show. Alot & it's funny when people like Bret Hart who knows way more about wrestling than Bischoff. He calls him an idiot who often times didn't know what he was talking about.

Bischoff never had an original idea and bankrupted WCW.

This title rubs me the wrong way. He had serious reflection looking back, and you people just laughed. And then he said he wasn’t trying to be funny or untruthful, and the smugness y’all have. That interviewer just looking to the crowd like “haha I was right obviously” just made me mad. Bischoff was trying to be genuine, and he sounded genuine. Idk if he was, but naming this video “Eric FINALLY ADMITS” as if you caught him in a lie and forced him to tell some ungodly truth that’s been hidden from us is just off putting. I hate this channel but I keep watching it lmfao. You guys have these great opportunities to talk to these great legends of the business you love. They were in it. You weren’t. I just don’t understand the disrespect I get from channels like these to the sport I love. It’s … a different kind of disrespect. I can’t quite understand it. But I hate it

@chillpengeru

Ай бұрын

I don't think it was as disrespectful as it came off to you, at least it didn't to me. Even Bischoff acknowledged the humor in it. You're right though he did seem genuine and understanding about the whole thing.

Compared to Hogan, none of them drew a dime.

flair is the one who got bishoff to hogan. hogan had no idea who bischoff was

Love ric flair always have, always will. Wooooo

I enjoy listening to Eric Bishoff, Vince Russo, AND Jim Cornette. There are no allliengences in wrestling editorializing.

Flair still holding grudges over something almost 30 years ago is petty .

@rolltide9547

4 ай бұрын

He did his best to destroy Flair's career.

@user-kg6tp9js9p

4 ай бұрын

​@@rolltide9547 Flair needed to go away. He was an embarrassment by the mid 90s

@rolltide9547

4 ай бұрын

@@user-kg6tp9js9p He was booked to look terrible by Bischoff.

@bigolebot

4 ай бұрын

​@@user-kg6tp9js9p1993 was the best time for Flair to retire

@bigolebot

3 ай бұрын

​@@user-kg6tp9js9pmid 90s? How about 1993.

You should watch what Sabu says about Flair. Flair is up there with Vince, a real sick a-hole.

@RealYRM

4 ай бұрын

I've never understood the hundreds of thousands of young women willing to debase themselves as groupies or ring rats to take a turn on an STD covered flag pole of some rocker or wrestler or athlete... to me, it's like if they're licking the inside of a urinal at a crowded night club. But there are women standing in line, raising their hand, to do literally anything these guys want, for better or worse. I wouldn't want to be on either end of that. But the difference between Flair and Vince is that Vince had hiring and firing power over that woman he debased (and possibly others)... so at least with Vince, they can make the argument that they were threatened or coerced.

@MLBlue30

4 ай бұрын

Figures.

@ef7558

4 ай бұрын

I remember that interview. He called him a sexual predator I believe.

@jlopez0710

4 ай бұрын

Where can I find it?

@krillep546

4 ай бұрын

@@jlopez0710 Just google Sabu shoots on Ric Flair.

Those wwF guys drew money because of vince...exception being Hulk. Ric drew based on his work. RIC had no huge Wwf marketing machine behind him.

Eric wanted Flair out and Hogan on Top, Bottom Line

so hogan changes booking minutes before a show starts. no issue. flair wants to see his son wrestle but he needs to follow protocol? come on. we know hogan is big business but you can't claim some sort of business ethic or protocol

Eric is treated unfairly 🤷🏾‍♂️

@pri0r_t0_a_weekago...fukwi48

3 ай бұрын

Idk about that… u reap what you sow

I was wondering what the hell happened between the two in the late 90s. Awesome to know the revelation.

Ric Flair never drew Bischoff? Huh. Tell me you don't know your territorial days without telling me so. Flair vs Funk and Flair vs Steamboat immediately come to mind. If you were to ask anyone who the biggest draw is from that time period, most would say Hogan or Flair. I'd personally say Flair because if you don't have a heel you want to see get the shit kicked out of him, why are you going to root for the face.

Flair claimed that he was not under contract at that time because he was not getting paid.

Ric flair believes his own hype more than anyone in history or at least in wrestling history

@The_Bigot

4 ай бұрын

Guess you’ve never heard about Bret Hart

@ericseitzler81

4 ай бұрын

@@The_Bigot Bret actually is one of the best ever like he said ric had the same match everyday for 40 years.bret has tons of 5 stars and legendary matches flair has been in great matches but it was NEVER bc of the wrestling they were just big matches.not to mention he is a terrible human being and everyone that knows him says so and he owes everyone money.

@bigolebot

4 ай бұрын

@@ericseitzler81 Being one of the best ever means you draw money, great talker, have charisma, have the size and be able to change sports entertainment. Bret didn't have that, he was only good in the ring, that's it and Bret also worked the same match as well. Rest holds, head locks, elbow drop from the turn buckle, leg drop, more rest holds, chest first to the turn buckle, Russian leg sweep... Boom typical Bret match that didn't draw money. I get it, you're a Millennial so you're too young for Ric Flairs heyday from 78-89

@ericseitzler81

3 ай бұрын

@@bigolebot dude I'm 42 so I know my history and Bret proved how good he could be on the mic when he was a heel in America and a hero in Canada,that work was amazing AF.ric was better on the mic and Bret was better in the ring,he was a far better wrestler than ric and knew how to make his opponent look great and flair only made himself look good.its fine that u like flair even though he is a horrible human being but to each his own.

@bigolebot

3 ай бұрын

@@ericseitzler81 you're 41 which says it all. You didn't witness Flairs heyday and flair made Ricky Steamboat, Sting, Luger, Windham etc I can continue... Again please do not speak about wrestlers before your time

F Flair LOL

@user-kg6tp9js9p

3 ай бұрын

Exactly

Flair was a lot more popular than bischoff thought he was. Flair sells PPV’s and tickets. He had lots of good miles on him and bischoff wasted that time that he can’t get back. Flair is wrong about 1 thing. It does matter who wins.

i jus feel like eric had wwf(e) beat and he helped ruin it letting the guys get lazy, paying guys way too much for little work, the NWO got too stupid, the storylines sucked by 98'-99' and the matches got lazier

Eric Bischoff is the overly qualified, more than competent person working amongst adult children. Eric has to always defend his management skills because otherwise he would just be apologizing constantly for not meeting the demands of the adult children. He can claim, "I understand business principles." and "This happens all the time in other businesses."...im surprised he lasted as long as he did in that business, but only by way of wanting to be there. He seems like he would have been much better in a different industry.

Ric Flair understood business down South, just leaving WCW with NWA, promoting Pro Wrestling, and letting Vince have Sports Entertainment, but WCW tried by leaving NWA to be just like Vince, and though the success was wrong in the end. Just like AEW today, only Sting as NWA made star has fired anything up during his retirement. They should have left NWA WCW style on TBS, how cool it could have been Scott Steiner as NWA World and Sting retiring in NWA. And Ric Flair working Pro Wrestling, and with the recent Vince thing, how cool NWA on TBS, Pro Wrestling. Let WWE have Sports Entertainment, NWA for life. Here's to Harley Race, Ric Flair, Arn Anderson, and yeah Nick Aldis.

@bigolebot

3 ай бұрын

I'm so glad to this day Flair didn't stick with WCW throughout 1991, especially how bad business was back then for the company... Dusty, Ole, etc treated him like shit... Gladiator Flair???? Lose to Rick Steiner in a 5 minute steel cage match???? And then you have non drawing guys like Scott blaming Flair as to why NWA and WCW of the late 80s and early 90s didn't draw... What a bum.

@raymondtipton7243

Ай бұрын

Call him that to his face....easy to do and him miles away....

Both guys are disingenuous and lowly rated in the respect column. So, taking a side is difficult.😂😂

Flair worked 400 dates a year for 20 years and Bischoff can't give a week off.

Flair is a whiny bastard. He'd had the belt for 12 years. He couldn't handle working without the belt, so he 'lost his confidence.' He was a job guy the last 10 years of his career.

I’ve always defended Eric on this. Yeah Flair drew money - but wcw was still losing huge money the entire time he was headlining. He drew money - but it wasn’t enough…. Yeah I can draw money tomorrow - like.. 30 tickets in my city… you still wouldn’t say I drew money from a promoters perspective when he loses money.

@bigolebot

2 ай бұрын

This post makes zero sense.

@alexmcfarland1732

Ай бұрын

If your top draw is drawing money but your still losing more money than coming in, thats a you problem. Maybe stop paying ex-WWE guys lucrative amounts of money and operate off what is coming in like a real business

Flair went to North fucking Korea for that company,,BROTHER .!!

@Proyou2024

4 ай бұрын

Was that supposed to be funny?

😂 bischoff has a tattoo?

@pri0r_t0_a_weekago...fukwi48

3 ай бұрын

Noticed that too, must be a mid life crisis thing

If ric was smart he would not comment much on the vince shit, cuz shit about him will come out

@johnathonkelly5117

4 ай бұрын

It's weird because we as fans know there's a ton of horrible things he's done but nobody condemns him over it until Forbes or sombody officially reports it.

@RealYRM

4 ай бұрын

Do you guys feel that there's a difference between, say... someone like Ric Flair, or Gene Simmons, or Vince Neil, or LeBron... having thousands and thousands of 'flings' with the groupies and ring rats who literally line up for a turn, and someone like Vince, who has the power to hire and fire the woman working for him, and make her career success or failure a condition of whether or not she goes along? Personally? I think it's all gross, but the hundreds of thousands of women lining up for a turn on that creepy old rock star are flashing their t-ts and begging to go back stage willingly... they want to "party with the band". Is it a crime if the band says "sure, let's party"?

@johnathonkelly5117

4 ай бұрын

@RealYRM not at all! It's most guys dream scenario to be in that position. Who wouldn't want to hook up with a new beautiful woman every other day lol I don't blame the women either because who wouldn't want to hook up with an attractive celebrity? The stories I'm talking about aren't consensual like Flair and the flight attendant, Vince texting the he controls her sx life and she might say no but we'll do it anyway. That kinda stuff is waaay to far. Frankly I don't know how the Rockstars get away with it Steven Tyler and mick jagger and so many more should've went to jail

@liberalismisahatecrime4385

4 ай бұрын

@@johnathonkelly5117 It goes too far for whom? There's plenty of women that want and enjoy to be treated like that. They want to be controlled by a man who has power. That's the society we live in. So I'm not even sure what you mean by saying stuff takes it way too far. I think it goes too far when we try to legislate people's sexual relationships. If it's genuinely rape, and a girl was violated, that's taking away someone's autonomy and causing them harm. If they were ok with you taking away their autonomy though, why should we prosecute that? The majority of people want to be told what to do, because people are dumb.

@RealYRM

4 ай бұрын

@@johnathonkelly5117 No, I actually wouldn't want to be in that position... I'm too logical a guy, to me, all I can think about is the cheating, STDs, risk of being baby trapped... it doesn't look appealing. But, I can sort of put myself in Flair's shoes with the flight attendant. Ok, so, you're Ric Flair... women have been throwing it in your face for decades, and you're on a flight, you're drunk off your ass, and in your mind, you're not used to women being around you when you party who don't want you. Ric Flair's brain couldn't imagine that there's a flight attendant who wants to be loyal to her husband and doesn't want his magic wand. That kind of life messes you up. But also, a lot those groupies who lined up to be with Motley Crue or KISS or an NBA star or Ric Flair... if they had regrets once they sobered up? If they thought they could get revenge or take money? The odd thing about feminists is that they think women are better than men at everything... except these women never heard of lying or exaggerating for personal gain? Like, your toddler could think of lying to get their sibling in trouble, or to steal a cookie, or to get a bigger present... but a grown woman? Shocking right? So how do we know the difference between a real case of someone not consenting, and a case where the girl was a willing freak, but just regretted it later, or saw an opportunity to cash in? In the case with Vince, at least it's pretty clear that he abused his position of authority in the company... and it's just gross, so, he's going to get crushed in this. But how close do you think we are from every 1980s groupie suing Aerosmith, Motley Crue, Poison, White Snake, Metallica, and so on? How close are we to a thousand lawsuits against Shaq or LeBron? Because all they gotta do is consent 100%, then later on, say that they didn't... or say they were drunk, or anything.

I thought Eric and Ric were on good terms now?

Eric Bischoff...not so much.

Bankrupt Bischoff was never Fair to Flair!!!

@bigc2626

4 ай бұрын

Will you stop!

@eveningstar4543

4 ай бұрын

That takes me back 😂

@billhicks808

4 ай бұрын

If you're gonna be fair to Flair, you've gotta be fair to Flair. See when you're talking about a man like Flair....

Flair was a mid card talent at best, and that was before he broke his back. I've never had any respect for Flair, mainly for his back stage booking. He held more great talent down more than ant other person in the business

@shoeplayisbad1

4 ай бұрын

No nor at all He made more people than anyone His matches in 1989 with steamboat are the best matches ever

@Rschr101

4 ай бұрын

HHH held down more people than Flair ever did.

@bigolebot

4 ай бұрын

Someone wasn't alive during Flairs prime... I wish the Millennials would stop posting nonsense about an era before their time. They do not have a clue and they never will. Flair made Ricky Steamboat, Sting, Barry Windham, Lex Luger, Vader, Ricky Morton and many more. Do some research kid

@jerryd1109

4 ай бұрын

@@bigolebot I was around for Flairs beginning. I've never found him to be a good talent, let alone someone who should be the face of a federation

@bigolebot

4 ай бұрын

​@@jerryd1109if you say so Millennial. Stick with the Attitude era

Flair isn’t to be respected, really.

Ric wasn’t a draw at that time. That’s a fact. I grew up in the 90s and don’t remember anyone talking about him during that time. And everyone in my class watched wrestling.

@Choke-em-then-stroke-em

4 ай бұрын

@chadthunderhawk1650 you definitely don’t know what you are talking about. Just because your class didn’t like flair means nothing😂😂. Hogans 1st match in WCW was against Flair. Flair was one of the few WCW talent that hogan trusted to work with. What other big name in WCW would Hogan work with besides Flair at that time??? Yeah I’ll wait because there is none except for Sting and that didn’t happen until 97😂😂

@chadthunderkawk1650

4 ай бұрын

@@Choke-em-then-stroke-em No. you don’t know what you’re talking about. They didn’t start competing with and defeating WWF until new stars rose and crossover stars came over. I like Flair, too. But I’m keeping it real. His prime has ended before then and he wasn’t the major draw.

@Lakers0olll

4 ай бұрын

As a kid in the late 1990s, ric made me question if wrestling was real. I always thought, how could a flabby old man realistically beat up any of the younger roided up wrestlers lol.

@chadthunderkawk1650

4 ай бұрын

@@Lakers0olll exactly. Thank you.

@Choke-em-then-stroke-em

4 ай бұрын

@@chadthunderkawk1650 the 1st major feud for the NWO at the beginning was against the 4 horsemen bro…. His 1st title defense after turning heel was against Flair. He was always in the mix one way or another. His fire me I’m already fired promo drew some of the best ratings Nitro ever had🤷🏾 When the NWO lost steam by 99 Hogan was back feuding with Flair again. Hell besides sting flair was always hogans biggest feud in WCW bro lol

Ric flair was the reason I went to the bathroom... It was a great time to poop... I figured the tv was full of crap might as well fill the toilet too...

@bigolebot

3 ай бұрын

I wish millennials would stop giving their opinions on ric flair. You guys missed out

@mikecook8712

3 ай бұрын

@@bigolebot far from a millennial but you keep thinking you can blame his stupidity on youth

@bigolebot

3 ай бұрын

@@mikecook8712 you weren't talking about his "stupidity" though... You were talking about his TV appearances You Millennials missed out on the 80s...

@mikecook8712

3 ай бұрын

@@bigolebot again NOT a millennial... I have millennial grandkids... NOT a millennial.

@bigolebot

3 ай бұрын

​@@mikecook8712yeah ok millennial. Stick with 90s wrestling

Wish i was having the time of my life. But that doesnt cater to all the cry babies who've taken over and spent 8 years doing home invasions and breaking all my things and smashing my teeth. Tough guys. Thats what they are. Everything is tough guy. I start enjoying something than the tough guy cry babies start crying for daddy attention. Too much fame and money around me. Just cant be normal anymore. Tough guys dont like normal.

Flair went to north korea for that company.

Hope Flair makes it to his birthday on the 25th of this month (FEB.) 2024