Hornady made the ammo , hornady made the box. They can change the powder ,they can change the box. They didn’t . They knew of an issue and didn’t inform consumers until they were caught .

@canuckmagnum5841

Ай бұрын

This is my thoughts exactly, They could have included an insert paper in the box explaining or a sticker on the outside, not hard or very expensive... shame on Hornady.

@bobbymccook8775

Ай бұрын

@@canuckmagnum5841 They knew that it would kill sales!

@Pepe46873

Ай бұрын

Hornady designed the cartilage, theirs zero excuse for them not to deliver what they sold. Their magic barrel still shoots similar velocity but your rifle may be 150fps under

My issue with Hornady is that they should have retested their new loads when they knew they changed the powder and then updating their packaging accordingly. To not do so was fraudulent and really lowers my opinion of their company. Market issues is one thing, not being straight with your customers is another. The 7MM PRC is Hornady's baby (given that they developed it) and it was just getting to market when their powder supply issue hit. I believe that they knew they had a short window to get the public on board with the cartridge. They also knew that velocities are a key factor in what chambering customers select when purchasing a new rifle. After seeing the very comparable 6.8 Western fizzle (along with a stalled rollout for the 277 FURY), Hornady likely feared what would happen to their "wonder cartridge" if they had been upfront with customers.

I was born and grew up in India a long time ago. My daughter (who was born in the US) used to say when she was little that I was so old that I played baseball with Moses. In the old days, you had some peculiar chambering offerings by the Brits back when India still allowed hunting. You can find old Westley Richards catalogs which show 250-3000 double rifles which were advertised as great for hunting tigers. At the other end of the spectrum, the Brits sold a lot of big bore double rifles, most of which eventually ended up in the US after hunting was banned in the 1970s. I consider myself blessed to be in the United States and to be able to enjoy the freedoms here, to be able to hunt and to shoot.

@Yetified_Mayhem

Ай бұрын

Glad you're here enjoying your freedoms

@chadperry4021

Ай бұрын

I love hearing about other country’s choice of rifles and cartridges thanks for sharing. What other cartridges were popular then?

@TerryCarte-uw4zd

23 күн бұрын

Ate you kidding me Lead poison 😂

@deav7486

11 күн бұрын

That’s a cool little story!

My official position on the 7 PRC , a good cartridge that’s not needed ! Lots of people will buy anything that’s ( HYPED ) !….. Thanks Ron for all your hard work for us !…….

@nuckyduk15

28 күн бұрын

You can play this game with nearly every cartridge 🙄. The 7 PRC is a modernized 7 REM mag. It wouldn't make sense for anyone to dump their old 7RM for a new PRC, but if you're in the market for a new rifle, the 7 PRC is just a better design. We just need more ammunition manufacturers to jump on it- and many have. If we're going by the "it's not needed" logic, we would have stopped cartridge design in the 1930's. Before someone jumps down my throat, I'm not a Hornady "fan boy", I don't own a 7 PRC, and likely never will since I'm perfectly happy with my 7 REM Mag.

@thomasdaum1927

28 күн бұрын

@@nuckyduk15 It’s not needed ( except maybe for target use ) because there are superior and inferior 7 mm cartridges , why do we need to squeeze another 7mm cartridge somewhere in the middle ?….. It’s all about selling new rifles !…….

“We reduced the velocity because we didn’t want to loose accuracy.” But they didn’t change what they printed on the box, even though they knew those stated velocities weren’t true anymore.

1. A supresser show would be really cool. 2. I don't think there are anymore ads than average. Love your show

My brother in law was a guide in Alaska, he was a fan of the 308 Norma but after getting into river kayaking he moved to a 18" 375 H&H Mag and a low power scope, it was in stainless steel since its life was doomed to be lived in the bottom of a kayak or a canoe.

YES do a suppressor video.. you can do it so everyone will understand the difference aspects of it.

I am live in southeast Alaska born and raised and am building a 7 PRC for deer and the occasional elk and moose hunt. I reload and am not worried about the Hornady drama. Its a very capable round and am excited to play with something new

@drakeslocum2564

Ай бұрын

I just bought a 7 PRC for Whitetail, but don’t hand load. I’m not worried about though, since most of my shots are within a 100 yards. I know it’s meant for long range, but I just couldn’t help myself 😂

@RepublicofTX

Ай бұрын

Love my 7PRC!!

@user-ch7sy6zl4q

Ай бұрын

These manufacturers make all these new calibers for marketing it’s all about the MONEY that’s it plan and simple. When it comes to the 7mm’s. If u can’t get in done with a 280-AI u aren’t going to get it done with any 7mm round. Also any shot pass 500 yards on an animal is just unethical hunting in my opinion. What happened to ethics and woodsman ship and respect for the animals we hunt. Just my opinion

@SammyMoore-tg5gs

Ай бұрын

@@user-ch7sy6zl4q you should keep it

@HazardousRob

Ай бұрын

You clearly haven't done any real hunting. Either in the back country or the mountains

Im switching from Hornady to Federal ammo this summer, thinking ill try the Terminal Ascent and see if my rifle shoots it well. Not into sticking with a brand that will intentionally slow down ammo and keep posting false data on the box. Thank Ron, I have learned so much from you over the years.

@drakeslocum2564

Ай бұрын

Ever thought about going to a copper bullet?

@RonSpomerOutdoors-Podcast

Ай бұрын

I've been shooting Barnes copper since about 1992. I do most of my hunting with coppers including Hammer, Hornady CX, sometimes Winchester's...

@user-iz7zy7rx9t

Ай бұрын

@@drakeslocum2564 Yes i have been researching them a fair amaount. I have a couple boxes of superformance GMX but they didnt group well out of my rifle. However I learned from Ron, I may need to prep my rifle a bit before shooting them. I will try them again. I am definitely intrigued by the coppers

@keithprinn720

Ай бұрын

ethics not a factor for the company, being honest was warranted.

@user-sp9hy8tq4j

11 күн бұрын

Nosler and Federal premium ! Trust me ! Every other brand has failed me at some point In time ! Under loaded win supreme! Under loaded Remington! Had failure to fire in 30-06 Remington ammo and win supreme 270 ammo once before !

For the lefty wanting a 35 Whelen, I went for a Tradition Outfitters single shot rifle in 35 Whelen because I am also a lefty. It was about $360. The CVA Scout is also a good single shot rifle made in 35 Whelen. Single shots are easy to use as a lefty, relatively light weight, and cheap. Most of the time one shot is all that is needed anyway

@clintonlayne9253

Ай бұрын

I forgot about the Tradition brand . The CVA Scout Rifle in 35 Whelen is heavy to some but not to others you will appreciate the added weight it helps reduce some of the recoil.

@drakeslocum2564

Ай бұрын

@@clintonlayne9253 I went in a shop one day looking for a CVA in 35 Whelen, they only had the Traditions brand (which I bought). Before that I had never even heard of them. It’s a great gun though.

@drakeslocum2564

Ай бұрын

@@clintonlayne9253 also, the CVA and Traditions both come with muzzle breaks that screw off, so a suppressor could be put on.

@clintonlayne9253

Ай бұрын

@@drakeslocum2564 I have a Tradition brand Muzzleloader 50 cal. Left handed 1.66 twist . It's very accurate ML.

@drakeslocum2564

Ай бұрын

@@clintonlayne9253 I don’t have a muzzle loader, but would love to get one

Great show Ron💯 Great perspective on the history commentary 🤙 Comes with age and experience, dealing with many types of people 👍 More importantly; thank you for sharing the response from Hornady ‼️💯

35 whelen for me and I’d recommend the 7 mag as well for this youngster . Great tip about the double ear protection . I learned that on my own thankfully but it sure makes a difference . Awesome flinching tips,Ron . I’m going to try those out . I don’t flinch much ….or do I 🤔😂

@marcmoore4115

Ай бұрын

Hahaha always worth making sure you don't flinch 😂 practice makes perfect, after all.

Australia has .243 for more for the smaller deer species then .277 for Red Deer and Sambar, but it varies by state.

the main problem with the hornady excuse is that they never said they had to slow down the load but even worse just kept putting that lie right back on all the boxes

@JamesClark-lw6sw

Ай бұрын

GET A CLUE KID, 90% OF THE VELOCITY DATA ON EVERY BOX OF AMMO YOU HAVE EVER BOUGHT IS FALSE WHY HOLD HORNADY TO A HIGHER STANDARD THAN ANYONE ELSE? OH, I KNOW WHY. YOU ARE JUST A CHILDISH LUTTLE HATER. 😂

@DinoNucci

Ай бұрын

Correct! #Fraud

@cdavison9491

Ай бұрын

They can't keep saying it's "better" than the 7mm remington magnum, if they put up their real numbers. I'm guessing it will be at least 2 years before anyone gets ahold of any RL26, so they should just advertise it with the correct velocities.

@randall3241

Ай бұрын

well wonder how many boxes they had made up all ready and anyone who goes by what the box says is wrong already for you can take three guns and they will have up to 150 to 200 fps the main trouble i see is people today have become whinny babys about everything

@sampayne2473

Ай бұрын

Any reloader would have said damn near the same thing hornady did. They couldn't get the exact powders they needed so rather than making sure velocity is met they make sure it shoots well. No one reloads for speed they reload for accuracy. Would you rather have a super fast 2 moa gun or a slightly slower .5moa gun? I'd much rather sacrifice velocity for accuracy.

Hello Ron, my name is Todd, and I have been watching your channel for a while now and have been reading your articles in magazines my whole life. I really enjoy both. You always give a lot of good information I for one, don't expect you to get all the information exactly correct. I have noticed a few mistakes or miss speaking, but it's not a big deal. I have to say that some of the people who are sending in corrections are very rude to you in the way they do it. If all these people expect you or anyone else to be perfect all the time, maybe they should start doing a podcast and see how much they know and or get correct. Please keep doing what you do because all of non-perfect people really enjoy what you are doing.

I agree on the use of the "clock" for calling shots. During 30:06 week it was a bit frustrating with the young guy trying to tell you where you hit. 2 o'clock, 2, 1/4" ... simple to follow.

If I moved to Alaska I would ask the local gunshops near me loads of questions before I purchased a gun for hunting and build a relationship with the shop and local hunters not so much for game but safety. Alaska is a wild looking place 🇦🇺

@drakeslocum2564

Ай бұрын

Seeing how much ammo availability the local shops have would also be a good thing.

Australia's minimum bullet for deer is a .243 and .270 for Sambar deer as they can get to 300kg. There are also rules for minimum energy requirements of something like 1,000ft/lb @100m however they might be state specific. There are also minimum recommendations for certain applications. Also i have just chrono'd Hornady 55gr Vmax and gotten 240fps under the box speed from my LA102 with a 22" barrel but then my 300prc is with in 20fps of the box speed using 212gr ELD-X.

They shouldn’t print it on the box 📦 if it’s not correct…

I'm a long time 7 Rem Mag fan. As a hand loader I've seen nothing so far that convinces me to switch to the 7 PRC. A recent Little Crow Gunworks series comparing the two cartridges proves that the 7 Rem Mag has more powder capacity (not less) than the 7 PRC. Notwithstanding, the 7 PRC is outstanding...but not magic.

@nuckyduk15

28 күн бұрын

At least you get it. Hornady didn't design the PRC for people like us who already have a 7 Rem mag..... They designed it for people who don't yet have a Magnum 7. I swear the FUDDS on this channel are worse than the Creedmore fanboys.

@gilream

28 күн бұрын

@@nuckyduk15 I'm assuming that by "FUDDS" you are referring to us long time hunters that have more experience than you. Folks that laid the groundwork for what you enjoy today. As a fanboy you should realize that Hornady misrepresented their 7 PRC with every printed label on every box of their ammo. That should tell you something.

the unexpected can happen in Alaska, if a hunting guide is holding your hand on a guided hunt, then any rifle is great, but if your packing in unguided hunts or camping in the bush, most people carry a 300 mag or even a 338 mag. with heavy bullets. I lived in Alaska, hunt, trapped and fished and had a few confrontation with grizzly bears. trust me you will never feel the recoil of a rifle when a big bear is in your face !

@bobgyetvai9444

Ай бұрын

Add a brake and never feel big recoil Period .

@SammyMoore-tg5gs

Ай бұрын

@@bobgyetvai9444 or hear anything again

Hey Ronnie I would just like you to know that I only suffered through one commercial in the whole hour KZread presentation. I watch from Canada so maybe that makes a difference but not enough commercial content to complain about here. Thanks again. Keep on keeping on.

The 7mm rem mag Weatherby vanguard with the Weatherby muzzle brake is a baby to shoot, don’t be scared of it

@marcmoore4115

Ай бұрын

I'd rather recommend a suppressor to new shooters if they have acces to them, which he does. Many people are scared by the sound, more so than the recoil itself. I agree on 7 rem mag though, although .30-06 will be just as good for most hunters.

Well done. Many thanks.

For the Alaska fella, I would recommend a 35 Whelen.

@echofoxtrotwhiskey1595

29 күн бұрын

For a 28 year old, unless he reloads, not a great choice. Is 35 Whelen common on shelves in Alaska?

My first gun was a Remington 700 7mm rem mag. Fantastic gun and caliber! Can't go wrong with that combo. That being said i love historical cool guns and fell in love with old winchesters and mausers so now i use my k98k 8x57is or 1886 45-90 for everything 😁

Great information as usual. Would love to see an episode reviewing different suppressors

.22 with 60 grain bullets, over 2" OAL for deer and antelope in WY

Yes a general test maybe regarding weight point of aim shift , price point etc might be worth it

lol…. I grew up on a very large cattle and sheep ranch in the Sacramento and Guadalupe mountains of southern New Mexico. I had access to a Remington 700 BDL in .270. Remington Model 722 chambered in .222, a Winchester Army Model 30 Carbine 1895 chambered in 30-40 krag, a Remington model 41 single shot bolt .22 and a handful of other rifles. We had deer, mule, white tail… we had Antelope, pronghorns, bear and mountain lions. I know it’s hard to believe but I always had a .22 rifle in the pickup. I’ve shot a lot of cattle, sheep, deer and coyotes with the gun I had with me. Placement is important and lethal to most animals up to 100 yards. The gun I had on my scabbard was the Remington .222. I never lost a deer or coyote with the .222. One time, I had come home from college with a girlfriend during hunting season. Our ranch was private land and we restricted hunters to those who were friends or family. So over the generations deer had learned to flee to our ranch and stick to the mountains and more heavily wooded area. Anyway we were walking with our rifles when I saw a deer about 500 yards away. My Dad who was carrying a .270 said… that’s too far for your .222. I said give me a chance and if not, you take a shot immediately after I shoot. With my girlfriend watching on I sat down and braced the rifle on my knees, aimed… pulled the trigger and the buck jumped ran about 25’ and died. I’d hit him right in the heart. The point is, the .222 is more than sufficient to kill Deer or even Black Bear…. but placement is key.

To PHR.. Brother God Bless Ya..I dont all you have been or going on in life , but I can sure relate. Hopefully you can get this fall..I will be praying we both do n those with simliar things ..

Here in Alberta, Canada, the smallest deer cartridge is .230. So, a 223 is off limits, as is a 22-250.

@arthurshingler2025

Ай бұрын

Same as here in Virginia.

@jwdundon

Ай бұрын

Oregon down on the Left Coast of United States has a lot of liberals moving into it thank God they haven't screwed with calibers and straight wall cartridges yet. 22 caliber or bigger for dear, 24 caliber or bigger for elk....

@Lee-JayGessell

Ай бұрын

Not in Saskatchewan tho .223 n up including 22-250

My dad bought me my first deer rifle at 12. It was a Remington 7400 in 30-06. You'll be more than fine with either.

I had my 270 rebarreled to an 18” 30/06 #5 contour with a 1/8 twist and load 208 grain bullets. I have also used a lot of off the shelf 150/180s. I love that rifle, only shoot suppressed, recoil isn’t an issue. I was an early .260 Remington fan, but now a 6.5 creedmoor is my go to. But my only bears are black bear and most of my shots are under 250 yards, I wouldn’t consider it a big bear cartridge.

Seems to me that Hornady should've said something... But, I could care less about this under performing ammo since you still have the tighter tolerances that contribute to accuracy... I just don't think that the elk on the other end is going to complain much about being shot with that 200 fps slower bullet. Most of my handloads are slower anyway since I load for accuracy instead of just speed. Good job and yes do a suppressor episode!

The powder will come, I love my 7 mag but I bought the prc for the down range ballistics. I love their match ammo ,their 108s and EOls ..my desk is stocked full of them

I love your shows. I know you might have covered it before, but could you talk about shooting discipline and the problem with buck fever and using a large capacity, semi-auto for hunting deer and other medium to large, and fast game. Everyone is different. During a sudden and unexpected period of excitement, some people panic and lock up or overreact. Others, not always but sometimes because of training and experience, switch into an unemotional mood and react calmly and deliberately. I have an M1 Carbine. Years ago I took it hunting and one of my many brother-in-laws saw it and decided to get one. He was a very experienced hunter and had taken a lot of deer in the past. He took his M1 Carbine hunting in brush country and, when a buck suddenly broke cover near him, he dumped a fifteen-round magazine at the running deer. He and I decided right then that he needed to return to his lever action Marlin 336 to hunt deer. I have no problem with people using large-capacity semi-auto rifles for pest control of smaller or shorter animals such as hogs. They are short animals and any misses go into the ground near the animal. But a miss on a large and fast-moving game animal like a deer could result in a tragedy as the rounds that miss the target could travel a long distance.

Ron you hit another home run with this one. Maybe you should've been up at bat for those University of Kentucky Wildcats baseball team in the College World Series! Still, a first time in the series. Go Cat's!

Ron P.S. instructor's are using this now, specially with greener recruits. Yes they got the idea from me but I'm just a sudynim, not a brag there!

I just got my cva cascade in 30-06 out and compared to the 308 I already had, the increased recoil very minimal. I did have a bit of flinch but if I keep on the rifle I can easily get over that flinch. I love that cascade. I'm not a great shot yet but I'll tell ya, an inch at 100 is super good for me!

Ron. I watch all of your podcasts often more than once. I glean tremendous knowledge and other insights on my own experience. It’s why I cherish being a patreon. Why is you do not do talks regarding those of us that shoot single shots exclusively. I own several ranging from .22LR to 458wm. I have several that I use more than others. ie) 30:06, 7mm, 358win and now a 35 whelen recently I watched you video with your knew 7mm single shot. You know the attributes of the single shot. Would you not agree they deserve a bit of recognition and love. Please keep up your magnificent videos You do not just entertain, you educate and that benefits all of us. Loyal patreon. Cailean Scotland.

@RonSpomerOutdoors-Podcast

Ай бұрын

Thank Cailean. I do try to give the single shots some love, but for a true believer perhaps not enough. Will keep trying.

Let us know if PHR gets out hunting!! Ron you are a class act!!

.375 H&H bolt action is a grate choice. 300 gn. Nosler partition bullet. There's no substitute for horsepower. As for recoil; with modern-day recoil break systems will do just fine. Use a "Lead Sled" which will help tame recoil too. The only time recoil is a problem, is at the target range. When your in the field you will not notice it. Your concentration is on the animal and not the rifle.

Hoping to get a moose this year with the 7 PCR!! will let you all know how that goes if we do get one Cheers 🙂

@drakeslocum2564

Ай бұрын

I hope it does well for you. I plan to take a Whitetail with mine.

Hello Dakota, you are doing now, (eg. what I wish I had done;) for the first 6 years, after I'd finished college. As for a rifle selection, I'd suggest you seriously consider the tikka Hamer in 280 A.I. Get one with a scope appropriate to the hunting style you intend to do. For example, a 1-8 for closer to mid range hunting ( or if you're going to be tracking) Otherwise, a 4-16 should suffice. Please Note : If you're expecting to work as a guide for brown bear. Get a 375 ruger & an aftermarket takeoff barrel in 7prc. That way with the use of a muzzelbreak you'll have everything covered.

7PRC 175 ELDx Peterson Brass CCI MLR primers 68.5 gr H1000 3.26 COAL (Guide reccomendation) 24" barrel Velocities measured on a Garmin Xero 5 - 20 round groups 3000 fps 8.5 SD 16 ES .75 MOA off bench 1 MOA when I was shooting Hell of a cartridge as far as I'm concerned. Also hearing that Federal is getting advertised speeds. Working up a 195 berger load next.

30-06 all day long and twice on Sunday. Will do anything you need done in Alaska and with lighter bullets you could handily shoot small game. Biggest plus, no lousy belt on the case!

You are correct Ron in the state of Victoria Australia you must use a minimum of 270 with 150 grain or bigger for Samba deer hunti g

Hey Ron I just finished up watching .30-06 week I've always been a .06 fan since I was a little boy but do you think the next time you do a caliber week we could get the 7mm-08

I shoot Hornady 338 Lapua 250 grain ELD-M for plinking at my local range. Using a Garmin Xero chronograph it averages 2928 and the boxes is 2900. It’s a 27” Brux Barrel that has been hand lapped. So, I might be getting a few 2-4% fast speeds than an “Off the Shelf” rifle.

What might be a lot easier than doing a suppressor comparison would be to check out different hearing protection. One example is walker. I use the earmuffs and not only do the cut down the sound they enhance sound around you at the same time. There are a bunch of these styles out there nowadays and even some earbub style. I don't have anything against silencers but that would be a much cheaper route and you don't have to worry about a tax stamp.

Shaw sells complete rifles available in left-hand, 35 Whelen. I have a left-hand Shaw MK VII in 338 federal. Built on a savage action. Very nice rifle and no barrel swap needed.

My deer gun is a 22-250. Last 2 iv shot were heart shots at 100 yards it did the job

300 Win Mag with a suppressor is how I would go( and have taken to AK). Big enough for about anything up there, and with a can it'll soften the kick. My second choice would be the 7mm Rem Mag, which I also have.

22 centerfire cartridges are legal in Wyoming for deer, antelope, mountain lion, and wolves so long as the cartridge length is at least 2 inches and the bullet weighs at least 60 grains, FYI. That changed about 10 years ago. Other big game still requires 24 caliber.

On the history correction, that gentleman failed to mention what our military stated was the main reason for their advantage with the 7x57. It was their use of smokeless powder. All of our ammo was still black powder. Black powder gives your position away with every shot. We couldn't see their positions.

The caller is incorrect on case capacities of the 7PRC vs 7mm Rem mag. The 7 PRC has a slightly less case capacity than the Rem mag.

Also make sure you use a scope with good eye relief and mount it correctly so you don’t get scoped. 😊

If trying to go go from 30.06 to 35 whelen don't rule out a rebore. Very affordable. I have 2 done by JES bore service. One is an 1895 bored from 30-40 to 405 winchester. The other is a 94 winchester bored from 30-30 to 38-55. Great work, great accuracy

Hi Ron, I love your content, you do a very good job reducing complex shooting issues to a common man’s understanding of ballistics. However I note a few aspects that lead me to believe you don’t fully understand some of the nuances that do not matter at traditional hunting ranges but matter a lot at longer ranges. I would be happy to help you fully understand some of the nuances. To be clear, I am biased, the chief engineer for Berger. I work hand and hand with Brian Litz. So, deep into the technical nuances. But if you would like to understand more I think I could help you.

it’s really just a slightly better designed 7mag . if I was to buy a new 7mm I’d probably go the prc but if I had a 7 mag already I wouldn’t replace it with a 7 prc. it just doesn’t do enough better to justify it .

Hi Ron Love your content on hunting and cartridges. Can you do some content on how to prepare your game animals. Or does KZread ban this type of viewing? Thanks Alex

A hard spot to be in as a business. As an analyst, the appropriate recommendation would be to update the ballistic data table on the box as it pertains to the lot of manufacture. However, this is an additional cost to reproduce the digital media on the box, so I am good with the official statement, but a bit too late and not well disseminated.

Dakota, try a 338-06, a little bit bigger bullet and the recoil is manageable, better yet, 338 Win Mag, train in to it, but man-up, a flinch is all mental, if recoil is that troublesome, you may want to reconsider an Alaska Life Changing Move. It is not a place to be undergunned.

Hello Ron have you tried the recoil pad from Jim Harmer (Backfire)?

ron spomers history is spot on!? wth...

Ron, I actually thought about the younger generation being Digital minded .😊 After my comment on the clock principal. The Savage 110 Axis II with the accuracy trigger. Mauser 98 and 03A3 any 3006 /270 long action would work to convert to a 35 Whelen. There are many Sporterized Mil Surplus rifles that can be had for less dollars . Or buy a CVA Scout Rifle in 35 Whelen the barrel is threaded it's drilled and tapped and comes with a compensator for under 500.00 bucks for the stainless steel models and under 400 for the blued actions but may not be threaded.

@doylethorn9251

Ай бұрын

The 35 Whelen is a standard length action. There are three action sizes, Short, Standard, and Magnum. I would be careful with Military surplus rifles for the conversion. With handloading, you can easily over pressure the old actions.

@clintonlayne9253

Ай бұрын

@@doylethorn9251 The Mauser 98 and the 03A3 can handle the pressure. Some Spanish actions were known to be too weak for the conversation s..

Banish 30 is awesome - Silencer Central for the best hunting cartridges

0:15 that’s me (except I moved to the PNW) I went with 30-06

All ammo manufacturers have issue with velocity accuracy. If your at all serious about shooting youll chrono your ammo. But I only rounds thats I have handloaded myself. But in my world 0.001 of an inch counts. Thanks Ron

Appreciate you mentioning RSTV, but consider that a good number of people come to YT and the member was mentioning that there's an extraordinary amount of advertising on your channel. I write software for a living, free software that is used by people like you on the Internet all the time. I hope you support Open Source Developers yourself, as without them there would be no Internet.🤔

I always thoroughly enjoy your videos, Ron. This despite you being a “Fudd“ and me being more of a military mindset, though highly interested in hunting. Anyway, I am going to gun con next weekend in Iowa and I was wondering if there was any chance you might be attending that event?

@RonSpomerOutdoors-Podcast

Ай бұрын

Thanks Alf. Unfortunately, I will be home recording more videos next weekend. No Iowa gun con for me. But you enjoy! Thanks for your support.

Another You tube content creator Mason Leather on KZread has found most printed ammo on the box no matter what caliber is usually slower they claim.

@kellym3531

Ай бұрын

Many were shot through a Tikka, which is known to run slow.

@beavismagnum

Ай бұрын

He almost always uses a shorter barrel. When using the test length barrel most manufacturers are pretty accurate except Hornady

@awsomedude12345678

Ай бұрын

All tests are with 24 or 26in barrels Not to mention different types of rifling and different qualities of manufacturing produce tighter barrels which also contributes to velocity Hornady uses high quality 26in match barrels to test yeilding the highest velocitys possible but the problem is it tends to outperform similar cartridges that Hornady copies like the 7mm rem mag. Long story short is that when people actually go and compare the two in real world scenarios they find that the rem mag outperforms the prc (it has a larger capacity so of course) The real problem is when people complain about it instead of clarifying Hornady calls everyone plebs gives a non apology and claims they did it all to help us poor consumers Honestly i wasn't even mad at Hornady until i heard their apology

I'm using KZread Premium and it is commercial free, worth every penny IMHO. The biggest advantage to 7 PRC is seldom spoken about. The chamber tolerances to meet SAAMI specs is much tighter than the 7 Rem Mag, this helps with accuracy over a wide range of manufacturers. For handloaders this is a real boon to achieving the best results. For left handed shooters the new Beretta BRX1 straight pull looks like a winner. The end user can shift from right to left hand bolt and ejection with no tools other than a pointed bullet to ease the releases. Not sure about the calibers as you can change barrels at home once the kits become available.

I'll hear it from the audience but buy a 6.5 CM or PRC or a 7mm Rem Mag and chose your bullet wisely. I do like the 7mm-08 too and used to have one. I regret having sold it.

Hey Ron: I would like to see some reviews on suppressors since I am in the market for one.

Would enjoy a deep dive on suppressors. A new rifle I just bought has a threaded barrel and have always wanted a reason to put on a suppressor! But just don’t know all there is to know about them

Dacota is rit! I started with a .22 and grue to 12 gage! Yep!

For the guy trying to call shots. Put a blank target down on the table beside the shooter than get the shooter to hand you ghe spent cartrige. When he does just use the spent cartrige to put down on the target beside him/her to indicate where the last shot landed on the cartrige. In that way they only have to scan the table to see the called shot.

7RM for Alaska should do pretty well!

I feel recoil at the range but not in the woods while I’m shooting at game.

"Exert From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia" In 1913, following the lead of French and German Army commands in developing the spitzer or pointed-tip bullet shape, the Spanish ordnance authorities issued a redesigned 7×57mm cartridge with a spitzer bullet (7 mm Cartucho para Mauser Tipo S).[21] It was loaded with a 9-gram (138.9 gr) spitzer bullet fired at a muzzle velocity of 850 m/s (2,789 ft/s) with 3,251 J (2,398 ft⋅lbf) muzzle energy from a 589 mm (23.2 in) long barrel. It had a maximum range of 3,700 m (4,046 yd).[20] The new spitzer bullet style was partially responsible for the cartridge's improved performance as it significantly reduced air drag within normal combat ranges and withstood higher accelerations in the barrel. Reverse engineering the trajectory from the previous sentence indicates a ballistic coefficient (G1 BC) of approximately 0.33.

Hi Ron, Rigby was actaully not Brittish but Irish... John Rigbys' grandson moved the Rigby business to London in the late 1890s buildig the .275 Rigby on Mauser 98 actions and as you rightly pointed out the Mauser 7x57 cartridge... In my Mauser collection I actually have a Mauser that was build on one of the first year 98 actions (serial numbers 1-900) in 1898 (hence the name Mauser 98' action) in the UK but not marked Rigby .275 but 7mm.. the only one we know of in existance... Interestingly I am actually in the process of working with one of the ex Rigby Best gunsiths on a rifle that we think will surprise the rifle world somewhat... maybe we should do the unvail on your show what do you think ?...

Decota - maybe a 6.8 Western with the 175 grain

Tikka t3x is available in left hand I am pretty sure.

Then Hornady should put a sticker on the 7 PRC ammo box explaining this???😮😮😮

Hi Ron great vid as always but small correction Waterberg is in South Africa not Namibia.

I recently just got into hunting. I LOVE elk meat I tried from someone passing through. I want to hunt, but I have no idea really how to cut, clean, “field prep”. I’m in Oklahoma, is there any mentorship programs? One good trip with an experience person is what I feel I need.

Call a lot of hockey on Hornady’s response. Hornady would have been welled served to come out and say they have not came close to the speeds they still print on their boxes of ammo. I guess Federal has a crap ton of the powder that burns quicker. What Hornady was getting to begin with on the other powder simply isn’t the same as now. The real rub is that they do not update their figures!

22 caliber is legal for Deer, Antelope, Mountain Lion and Gray Wolf in Wyoming!

Hats off to Hornady for bringing us the PRC’s. If you don’t like em, don’t buy one. Shame on their management for not being transparent about the velocity being lower on the 7 PRC. I have a Fierce Rogue in 7 PRC with 20” barrel that still shoots around 2850 FPS. That’s fast enough for me. With modern heavy aerodynamic bullets the lower muzzle velocity helps the bullet retain weight on impact, and might save a little meat, and still gets the job done on long shots. Hunters and shooters have never had it so good. The 6.8 Western is doomed if more bullet manufactures don’t start making bullets for it. I never liked the .270’s anyway.

@awsomedude12345678

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Shame isn't good enough if a Company lies to you you should try your best to avoid said Company. Its like paying for a hostage if you dont vote with your wallet things will get worse. The only way to keep Companys accountable is to withold funds Like budlight and Disney

I have not had a short action magnum, but I’ve heard they don’t feed well no matter which one you choose. I don’t own one nor have I known anyone that owns a 7 PRC, but many are not achieving the velocities that we should be getting not matter what powder. example if you’re looking in their Hodgins reload E manuel it shows different powders achieving over 3000 FPS with 175 grain bullet. … but yet a lot of people online are not able to achieve this without going over max pressure (5 to 6 grains over max just to achieve 175grn pill=3,00 fps… has been more like 2850 fps reality with 24 “ barrels. it so either manufactures or changing their powders or something else is gone goofy. you will not see much of a difference between the 7 PRC, the 7WSM, and the 7 Rem mag. What you are gaining is a better-designed factory chamber. The longer freebore will allow a reloader to make better use of modern bullets. The 7 PRC’s modern design will lead to a much better selection of factory ammunition

Aloha Ron, try doing a comparison of the Hornady eld-x, and the federal eld-x. I have not been able to get the federal's here where I live but I have run the Hornady's and also the Federal Terminal Ascent rounds through my CVA Cascade xt, which has a 24 inch Barrel. Out of my rifle The Hornady's are getting only 2790 FPS average on 5 shots, while the Federal Terminal Ascent is coming in at 3008 FPS on 5 shots. Federal advertises 2950FPS on their box. Just wondering what you think? Aloha!!

@Matt-en1kn

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Yep I'm getting 3,000 with the terminal ascent also

I wonder if Daniel, claiming that the stripper clip for the Mauser is superior to the Krag Jorgensen reloading system has ever done a comparison between the two? I’d bet that a mad minute comparison would find little difference between the two systems. I, also, haven’t done the comparison, but I would love to do so when I find a Krag to test (my preference would be to find one in 6.5x55 as was intended). I’ve loaded rifles with stripper clips before and it’s rarely ever very fast. The Krag system has its advantages, particularly logistically, as you don’t need to manufacture the clips and supply ammo in clips to the forces. That would be a fun video to watch, anyway. As Ron pointed out, it may not really have even been a competition between the Krag and the Mauser as much as it was a competition between the trapdoor Springfield and the Mauser. Also, it’s worth noting that in the military(not just the military), any poor performance on the field, if it can’t be blamed on a particular officer, is usually blamed on ‘outdated’ equipment. It will never be blamed on the higher-ups, ever. Also, I’ve also seen people say that it was black powder vs smokeless powder, but the .30-40 Krag was the first smokeless powder cartridge in American use (the 8mm Lebel was the first smokeless powder cartridge) so that might be accurate only if you assume the comparison between the .45-70 and the 7x57, but not the .30-40 Krag.

Live in Alaska and shoot 7prc. Ive taken grizz and Blk bear with 175 eldx

The 7 PRC probably used a powder initially that hornady can't get now in sufficient quantities-- say, Reloder 26, which is known both for its high speed and its scarcity. RL26 would definitely be in the range for this cartridge and would be among the highest MV powders with a 175. I don't see this as a bait and switch at all. I see this as Hornady dealing with the same baloney shortages we've all been facing.

Please do a suppressor show!

Love your videos! But consider slowing down on the 60 minute ones in favor of 30 minutes or so... Just a thought!

I would like to collect these boxes. I think they will be worth money someday.