Epoxy Floor Failure/ Moisture Remediation/How To Fix/Moisture Barriers/
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@JB-mh6xz Жыл бұрын
Bro great insights most people just look for install videos this gave depth to proper preparation prior to laying epoxy
@surfaceit805
Жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@kotpepe5 ай бұрын
I'm just starting an epoxy coating business and this video is a masterpiece! Keep the good work.!
@surfaceit805
5 ай бұрын
Thank you 🙏🏻
@bw45622 жыл бұрын
Appreciate your honesty. Nice repair! Nice work
@surfaceit805
Жыл бұрын
I appreciate that!
@itzaes1210 ай бұрын
I would do shotblaster to orep instead of diamond grinder
@ddmercantile2 ай бұрын
What did you use to strip off the old epoxy? Any chemical or just mechanical and what is your machine/pad?
@donaldsandersonjr3 ай бұрын
Why is there a heavier chipped floor underneath this floor at :56 ??
@nathanduty7857 Жыл бұрын
I would love an update on your solution from a year ago, verifying longevity and proper diagnosis/solution. Thanks for the video. Like the music
@surfaceit805
Жыл бұрын
We do projects regularly with this contractor. No reports on any issues this far.
@romeopangan87572 жыл бұрын
Pano mag repair ng dati sira efoxy pain
@tressagoritz22102 жыл бұрын
Great video. Really appreciate your honesty. I had my floor done last month. It was done during 4 days of rain. Water got in just at the front. Would love your opinion on best way to fix. Option 1 screen the entire floor and apply top coat. Option 2 tape only first foot where water damage and fix just the first 2 feet THANK YOU SO MUCH
@surfaceit805
Жыл бұрын
If epoxy gets wet after being installed to soon it may have effects on sheen and dry times if it dries at all. I’m not sure exactly what the damage is but I would suggest removing the epoxy from the front strip of the garage and do a solid color coat as a border under the garage door. In many cases we do this to match the exterior color of the house when the door is closed.
@johnmacarthur6022 Жыл бұрын
If that happened tome one time I would make sure to use my moisture meter EVERY time!
@eddiem50402 жыл бұрын
Great video, what did you use to clean up the control joints like that? So perfect 🤔
@dipanpatelmd
Жыл бұрын
Touche. How did you grind the joints before placing new coatings??
@starfloors4032 Жыл бұрын
Before install epoxy coatings we always measure moisture level of the concrete. This is the best way to avoid such problems.
@grantpointer4645
Жыл бұрын
A moisture test only gives information on current conditions, moisture conditions can change over time. There is no way for the contractor to know what will happen to the concrete slab in the future.
@barbaramcintyre9315 Жыл бұрын
So did you have to repair the floor on your dime, or did the contractor pay? Especially with the exterior slab slanted towards the house it seems like the contractor should pay you.
@donaldsandersonjr3 ай бұрын
why didn't we see any water oozing out when you popped the bubble at :54 seconds?
@calebeeduardo9859 Жыл бұрын
So if you were to apply the Slabloc 100 to begin with would that have still happened? Or did you already use the slabloc100 to begin with however it just wasn’t effective? I ask because I’m new to Epoxy and I got a project coming up where a client has a small water problem in his basement so I’m trying to find the best solution in terms of what products to use
@surfaceit805
Жыл бұрын
This one did not have slab loc 100 with the original install. For your project I would definitely do a moisture test. This will give you the data you need to choose the correct moisture barrie.
@calebeeduardo9859
Жыл бұрын
@@surfaceit805 awesome. Would you recommend the slabloc 100 in my case though?
@prefersoxygen9373
Жыл бұрын
The moisture barriers will not work in control joints and joints around the exterior where there is a water problem. The moisture testing is important but if one area is too high, failure of epoxy is imminent and then it will spread as moisture always does. Water problems in basements are tricky to mitigate. Be careful
@surfaceit805
Жыл бұрын
@@calebeeduardo9859 Slab loc 100 has a bout 22 lbs per square in of resistance. Which is a lot. But I do agree with @prefers oxygen in the comment below. Basements can be tricky to figure out. In some cases the exterior walls can be the issue, or poor drainage around the exterior walls of the basement. A failed or damaged exterior waterproofing membrane could be the cause, allowing water to flow where it is not intended. It would be wise to do some investigation around the exterior along with a moisture test.
@user-vx7tj7kv9c Жыл бұрын
What should be done if an epoxy based moisture mitigation barrier is applied and there are a million bubbles in the moisture barrier coating? Will this still perform like it should?
@surfaceit805
Жыл бұрын
Yes it should, sand the bubbles are pour over it. It mostly likely out gassing from a really pours slab.
@e.k.73872 жыл бұрын
Who cover costs of repair? Is water came up later after instalation? Great video! Most of contractors take videos whe everything is fine.
@TheBayAreaSideshow
2 жыл бұрын
The company is responsible duuuuuh🤣🤣🤣
@Helmuesi911
Жыл бұрын
@@TheBayAreaSideshow Which company? The general contractor, the sprinkler company or the epoxy floor contractor?
@JLGibbs50 Жыл бұрын
If osmotic blisters are to form, how long does it take? Say if you haven't witnessed any in 6months, a year etc, are they less likely?
@surfaceit805
Жыл бұрын
I would say yes, less likely.
@memosllcflooringandshowers7612 жыл бұрын
Good video in the case you found there source but how do you cover the expense?
@ilovethenfl510
2 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately sometimes you have to eat the cost that’s why we always moisture barrier now we dealt with this for a long time
@RJ-vq1iv
2 жыл бұрын
What do you use for a moisture barrier if you don’t mind me asking ?
@ilovethenfl510
2 жыл бұрын
@@RJ-vq1iv Vapor Solve, go thick and broadcast sand
@surfaceit805
Жыл бұрын
Fortunately on this project we all split the cost and discounted the labor rate.
@donaldsandersonjr3 ай бұрын
If all your floors get a preventative moisture barrier before installing the system (as stated at 1 minute and 49 seconds) then why did the floor bubble?
@surfaceit805
3 ай бұрын
Nice question… So the MVB I originally put down is more like waterbased MVB primer. If definitely gives the coating a boost in moisture resistance but it’s not a full system on its own. Different MVBs have different ratings. The amount of water running under the slab was too great for the primer to hold back. Honestly with our without the primer any flooring would have issues. The take away from this video is to find the source and fix the problem. A floor under water will fail no matter what you put down.
@Andrew-nq7oy5 ай бұрын
Hi. How did you apply next coat? did you sand mvb and applied epoxy w flakes or just waited till sticky?
@surfaceit805
5 ай бұрын
MVB then epoxy with flake next day.
@mannyamaya88387 ай бұрын
Did you had to do a lot of prep work since it was a new concrete? Degreaser or grinding? Both? Thank you!
@surfaceit805
7 ай бұрын
We grind every floor, new and old concrete. A degreaser or etcher does not profile the concrete enough for a coating.
@mannyamaya8838
7 ай бұрын
@@surfaceit805 Thank you !!
@jackszumski7118
Ай бұрын
@@surfaceit805great information. What diamonds/grit do you use to prep the floor?
@PeteJab Жыл бұрын
This is happening on the fault lines in my basement. Now I’m scared. What should I do?
@surfaceit805
Жыл бұрын
Basements can be tricky. In some cases it’s the exterior waterproofing around the stem wall or block wall that is the initial cause. Otherwise a proper moisture test can be done to determine the amount of moisture vapor transmission and will give you the data you need to properly select a coating.
@johnmacarthur6022 Жыл бұрын
That is on the contractor
@JLGibbs50 Жыл бұрын
Odd question but are the osmotic blisters that you encounter with epoxy coats generally soft or hard? Do they pop or ooze when stepped on?
@acanadianwoodworker
Жыл бұрын
I have water blisters all over my epoxy floors - when you pop them water sprays out! Its crazy
@JLGibbs50
Жыл бұрын
@@acanadianwoodworker are they hard to pop? Or relatively squishy/soft?
@acanadianwoodworker
Жыл бұрын
@@JLGibbs50 They'll crack fairly easily when I walk on them. A few were harder, but a light tap from a hammer broke them open. The epoxy is still quite hard even separated from its substrate, but way more prone to breaking.
@JLGibbs50
Жыл бұрын
@@acanadianwoodworker gotcha. Thanks
@surfaceit805
Жыл бұрын
Definitely delamination due to moisture.
@menswearhous4 ай бұрын
How do you go about finding a good epoxy floor installer?
@surfaceit805
4 ай бұрын
Definitely do some research for your area, I know several installers around the US. Feel free to email me and I may know someone in your area.
@spongebobkevin2 ай бұрын
Am new to this but say you do moisture test and it’s above a certain level , do you just tell the customer they can’t put epoxy on the concrete
@ColbyBrazda
2 ай бұрын
You put down a moisture barrier
@scottpratson7766 Жыл бұрын
Who paid???
@conkreteink350523 күн бұрын
800 square feet per gallon on the mvb?
@surfaceit805
23 күн бұрын
This one is 125sqft per gallon for the MVB. Always check your manufacturer specs as some coverage rates may be different.
@paulwoodling5300 Жыл бұрын
I dont think Ive ever seen an expansion joint going under an exterior wall
@Jaylowrider
Жыл бұрын
It’s a control joint- not expansion joint - control joints tell the slab where to crack, to basically prevent cracks
@paulwoodling5300
Жыл бұрын
Still have never seen this in FL. It really makes no sense. You are just giving water a channel to go under the wall.
@fillup40 Жыл бұрын
Why no moisture barrier in the first place?
@surfaceit805
Жыл бұрын
This did have a moisture primer when it was originally installed, not all floors require a MVB. This was new concrete and new construction in this area, it wasn’t until the landscaping was complete that the floor started having issues.
@Helmuesi911 Жыл бұрын
Who had to pay for this?
@nicholasferrara63555 ай бұрын
Contractors.....
@mikedelaney3473 Жыл бұрын
Sounds to me like the contractor who poured the slab is responsible for the water....if it is new it shouldn't be your responsibility to to repair his problems!
Пікірлер: 72
Bro great insights most people just look for install videos this gave depth to proper preparation prior to laying epoxy
@surfaceit805
Жыл бұрын
Thank you.
I'm just starting an epoxy coating business and this video is a masterpiece! Keep the good work.!
@surfaceit805
5 ай бұрын
Thank you 🙏🏻
Appreciate your honesty. Nice repair! Nice work
@surfaceit805
Жыл бұрын
I appreciate that!
I would do shotblaster to orep instead of diamond grinder
What did you use to strip off the old epoxy? Any chemical or just mechanical and what is your machine/pad?
Why is there a heavier chipped floor underneath this floor at :56 ??
I would love an update on your solution from a year ago, verifying longevity and proper diagnosis/solution. Thanks for the video. Like the music
@surfaceit805
Жыл бұрын
We do projects regularly with this contractor. No reports on any issues this far.
Pano mag repair ng dati sira efoxy pain
Great video. Really appreciate your honesty. I had my floor done last month. It was done during 4 days of rain. Water got in just at the front. Would love your opinion on best way to fix. Option 1 screen the entire floor and apply top coat. Option 2 tape only first foot where water damage and fix just the first 2 feet THANK YOU SO MUCH
@surfaceit805
Жыл бұрын
If epoxy gets wet after being installed to soon it may have effects on sheen and dry times if it dries at all. I’m not sure exactly what the damage is but I would suggest removing the epoxy from the front strip of the garage and do a solid color coat as a border under the garage door. In many cases we do this to match the exterior color of the house when the door is closed.
If that happened tome one time I would make sure to use my moisture meter EVERY time!
Great video, what did you use to clean up the control joints like that? So perfect 🤔
@dipanpatelmd
Жыл бұрын
Touche. How did you grind the joints before placing new coatings??
Before install epoxy coatings we always measure moisture level of the concrete. This is the best way to avoid such problems.
@grantpointer4645
Жыл бұрын
A moisture test only gives information on current conditions, moisture conditions can change over time. There is no way for the contractor to know what will happen to the concrete slab in the future.
So did you have to repair the floor on your dime, or did the contractor pay? Especially with the exterior slab slanted towards the house it seems like the contractor should pay you.
why didn't we see any water oozing out when you popped the bubble at :54 seconds?
So if you were to apply the Slabloc 100 to begin with would that have still happened? Or did you already use the slabloc100 to begin with however it just wasn’t effective? I ask because I’m new to Epoxy and I got a project coming up where a client has a small water problem in his basement so I’m trying to find the best solution in terms of what products to use
@surfaceit805
Жыл бұрын
This one did not have slab loc 100 with the original install. For your project I would definitely do a moisture test. This will give you the data you need to choose the correct moisture barrie.
@calebeeduardo9859
Жыл бұрын
@@surfaceit805 awesome. Would you recommend the slabloc 100 in my case though?
@prefersoxygen9373
Жыл бұрын
The moisture barriers will not work in control joints and joints around the exterior where there is a water problem. The moisture testing is important but if one area is too high, failure of epoxy is imminent and then it will spread as moisture always does. Water problems in basements are tricky to mitigate. Be careful
@surfaceit805
Жыл бұрын
@@calebeeduardo9859 Slab loc 100 has a bout 22 lbs per square in of resistance. Which is a lot. But I do agree with @prefers oxygen in the comment below. Basements can be tricky to figure out. In some cases the exterior walls can be the issue, or poor drainage around the exterior walls of the basement. A failed or damaged exterior waterproofing membrane could be the cause, allowing water to flow where it is not intended. It would be wise to do some investigation around the exterior along with a moisture test.
What should be done if an epoxy based moisture mitigation barrier is applied and there are a million bubbles in the moisture barrier coating? Will this still perform like it should?
@surfaceit805
Жыл бұрын
Yes it should, sand the bubbles are pour over it. It mostly likely out gassing from a really pours slab.
Who cover costs of repair? Is water came up later after instalation? Great video! Most of contractors take videos whe everything is fine.
@TheBayAreaSideshow
2 жыл бұрын
The company is responsible duuuuuh🤣🤣🤣
@Helmuesi911
Жыл бұрын
@@TheBayAreaSideshow Which company? The general contractor, the sprinkler company or the epoxy floor contractor?
If osmotic blisters are to form, how long does it take? Say if you haven't witnessed any in 6months, a year etc, are they less likely?
@surfaceit805
Жыл бұрын
I would say yes, less likely.
Good video in the case you found there source but how do you cover the expense?
@ilovethenfl510
2 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately sometimes you have to eat the cost that’s why we always moisture barrier now we dealt with this for a long time
@RJ-vq1iv
2 жыл бұрын
What do you use for a moisture barrier if you don’t mind me asking ?
@ilovethenfl510
2 жыл бұрын
@@RJ-vq1iv Vapor Solve, go thick and broadcast sand
@surfaceit805
Жыл бұрын
Fortunately on this project we all split the cost and discounted the labor rate.
If all your floors get a preventative moisture barrier before installing the system (as stated at 1 minute and 49 seconds) then why did the floor bubble?
@surfaceit805
3 ай бұрын
Nice question… So the MVB I originally put down is more like waterbased MVB primer. If definitely gives the coating a boost in moisture resistance but it’s not a full system on its own. Different MVBs have different ratings. The amount of water running under the slab was too great for the primer to hold back. Honestly with our without the primer any flooring would have issues. The take away from this video is to find the source and fix the problem. A floor under water will fail no matter what you put down.
Hi. How did you apply next coat? did you sand mvb and applied epoxy w flakes or just waited till sticky?
@surfaceit805
5 ай бұрын
MVB then epoxy with flake next day.
Did you had to do a lot of prep work since it was a new concrete? Degreaser or grinding? Both? Thank you!
@surfaceit805
7 ай бұрын
We grind every floor, new and old concrete. A degreaser or etcher does not profile the concrete enough for a coating.
@mannyamaya8838
7 ай бұрын
@@surfaceit805 Thank you !!
@jackszumski7118
Ай бұрын
@@surfaceit805great information. What diamonds/grit do you use to prep the floor?
This is happening on the fault lines in my basement. Now I’m scared. What should I do?
@surfaceit805
Жыл бұрын
Basements can be tricky. In some cases it’s the exterior waterproofing around the stem wall or block wall that is the initial cause. Otherwise a proper moisture test can be done to determine the amount of moisture vapor transmission and will give you the data you need to properly select a coating.
That is on the contractor
Odd question but are the osmotic blisters that you encounter with epoxy coats generally soft or hard? Do they pop or ooze when stepped on?
@acanadianwoodworker
Жыл бұрын
I have water blisters all over my epoxy floors - when you pop them water sprays out! Its crazy
@JLGibbs50
Жыл бұрын
@@acanadianwoodworker are they hard to pop? Or relatively squishy/soft?
@acanadianwoodworker
Жыл бұрын
@@JLGibbs50 They'll crack fairly easily when I walk on them. A few were harder, but a light tap from a hammer broke them open. The epoxy is still quite hard even separated from its substrate, but way more prone to breaking.
@JLGibbs50
Жыл бұрын
@@acanadianwoodworker gotcha. Thanks
@surfaceit805
Жыл бұрын
Definitely delamination due to moisture.
How do you go about finding a good epoxy floor installer?
@surfaceit805
4 ай бұрын
Definitely do some research for your area, I know several installers around the US. Feel free to email me and I may know someone in your area.
Am new to this but say you do moisture test and it’s above a certain level , do you just tell the customer they can’t put epoxy on the concrete
@ColbyBrazda
2 ай бұрын
You put down a moisture barrier
Who paid???
800 square feet per gallon on the mvb?
@surfaceit805
23 күн бұрын
This one is 125sqft per gallon for the MVB. Always check your manufacturer specs as some coverage rates may be different.
I dont think Ive ever seen an expansion joint going under an exterior wall
@Jaylowrider
Жыл бұрын
It’s a control joint- not expansion joint - control joints tell the slab where to crack, to basically prevent cracks
@paulwoodling5300
Жыл бұрын
Still have never seen this in FL. It really makes no sense. You are just giving water a channel to go under the wall.
Why no moisture barrier in the first place?
@surfaceit805
Жыл бұрын
This did have a moisture primer when it was originally installed, not all floors require a MVB. This was new concrete and new construction in this area, it wasn’t until the landscaping was complete that the floor started having issues.
Who had to pay for this?
Contractors.....
Sounds to me like the contractor who poured the slab is responsible for the water....if it is new it shouldn't be your responsibility to to repair his problems!