EP 03 Not a Dog, a DINGO // How the Dingo is different to our domestic Dog
Hi there everyone, my name is Zali! Welcome to The Dingo Channel or for those subscribed, welcome back!
In this video I introduce you all to Pumbah the alpine Dingo from The Dingo Discovery Sanctuary and Research Centre. Pumbah and I will be showing you just how vast the differences are between Dingoes and domestic Dogs.
Pumbah has his own instagram (@pumbahthedingo) be sure to check it out!
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If you want to learn about Dingo ecotypes and colours, please check out our previous video.
Many thanks to Lyn Watson and the team at the Australian Dingo Foundation.
Hope you enjoy!
SCIENCE
What is a dingo - origins, hybridisation and identity. Dr Kylie Cairns (2021)
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Taxonomic status of the Australian dingo: the case for Canis dingo Meyer, 1793.
Dr Bradley Smith, Dr Kylie Cairns et al. (2019)
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AUSTRALIAN DINGO FOUNDATION
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It may be difficult to spot the differences of Pumbah from a dog, but what isn’t difficult to spot is that Pumbah is a good boy.
@burgundyhome7492
Жыл бұрын
@Roseluck Serendipity I got confuse as well. Whenever she's saying "pumba", the warthog came to mind. ;-)
@Proxyincognito
Жыл бұрын
@@burgundyhome7492 Its like naming your cat "Dog" :P
@JaysSavvy
Жыл бұрын
Dingoes are literally dogs. This lady doesn't know what she is talking about.
@josecoope2211
Жыл бұрын
@@JaysSavvy Exactly, all mammals in Australia were marsupials. Dingoes were brought there by people.
@BSills-fe8ze
Жыл бұрын
Pumba is the damn dingos name. It’s not a pumba. Pumba’s don’t exist except in the fucking Disney movie. AND EVEN THEN THAT WAS A WARTHOGS NAME! Not the name of the species. the actual fuck? Jesus read a fucking book.
I have a half dingo, half yellow lab. Smartest dog I've ever known. Scary smart! He's also the highest maintenance dog I've ever known. He is perfectly trained and does every command spot on. Until something catches his attention out in the woods. Then he is gone, and his training non-existent. When he comes back (a day or two later) all his training is magically back. : P
@deweywallace6314
Жыл бұрын
I have an Australian Cattle Dog that is a part Dingo. Same story as your dog.
@Graybeard_
Жыл бұрын
@@deweywallace6314 Good Luck! My dog (Griffey) was featured in a Humane Society website. I called expecting the familiar, "Oh he was adopted within a hour of posting his picture", much as I'd heard over the last six months. Instead I was transferred to the director. She began asking me questions. Then she shared that Griffey had been returned to the shelter twice even after extensive training by their on-sight trainer. She said he had one more chance, but they weren't going to release him to just anyone now. She said the new owner would have to meet some strict criteria. I said I'm a retired middle school teacher and administrator. She said, "He's yours." : P
@bjblitz5448
Жыл бұрын
@@Graybeard_ 😂
@johnfleming7879
Жыл бұрын
sounds like a fascinating animal- Hounds are naturally independent(stubborn) , and intelligent. combined with the characteristics of the dingo are awesome
@kfl611
Жыл бұрын
I think he's a cat-dog. Pays attention when it suits him, and is in his own world when it suits him - like a cat.
One thing that dogs and dingos have in common is that they're both ridiculously adorable.
@Emper0rH0rde
5 күн бұрын
And that's also the scary thing about dingos. They look they could just be somebody's lost dog, but they're wild animals, and they're not safe to approach.
That dingo is so chill. He must really love her because she is picking him up, tugging his hears, and pulling his legs and it doesn't even phase him.
For an animal that's hard to train this dingo sure is well behaved.
@jakeelwood612
Жыл бұрын
Looks like a dog , can mate and have pups with a dog, that thing is a dog.
@thedingochannel
Жыл бұрын
We are so lucky to have Pumbah at the Australian Dingo Foundation. He is so relaxed around humans he knows.
@dreamwolf7302
Жыл бұрын
I've trained a cat, and a wild crow. Wasnt easy, but the key is to keep at it. any animal can be trained, with enough effort.
@thedingochannel
Жыл бұрын
Absolutely. Pumbah doesn’t have any recall and wouldn’t do anything on command unless there is something in it for him. So harder to train than a domestic dog, but quite similar to a cat’s behaviour.
@kfl611
Жыл бұрын
He sure seemed calm and relaxed - and happy.
"Training a dingo is like training a cat." Yup. Had the joy of befriending a dingo. She was wicked smart. And she would have nothing to do with training,
@thedingochannel
2 жыл бұрын
Hahah yep, so typical 🐾
@eaglesquedingo2112
2 жыл бұрын
I have actually trained my dingo to do quite a lot. Very quick learner. She has even learnt to say hello and I love you. I took her over an agility course and she took to it extremely well. Still haven't mastered recall though lol...
@thedingochannel
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah they are so smart! It’s usually just a matter of if they don’t want to, they won’t, even though they know what you’re asking of them. Yep, recall seems to not be on the agenda of all the Dingoes I have met haha
@alexia3552
2 жыл бұрын
@@eaglesquedingo2112 The pros and cons of intelligence haha
@eaglesquedingo2112
2 жыл бұрын
@@thedingochannel Very true lol... It's all on their terms. I think it is a good thing they are exercising their will, true to themselves:)
Reminds me so much of the Shiba Inu and other Japanese Breeds! The pups are indistinguishable and just as deadly in the teeth portion of growing up! :)
@chrisper94
Жыл бұрын
Yes, coz it's a dog. Sheesh🤔
@greensage395
Жыл бұрын
@@chrisper94 Sure, all Dogs look alike...gotcha!
@omarisawesome1996
3 ай бұрын
@@chrisper94ya this video triggera me as a fan of taxonomy
What an article say: “ The question remains: when dingoes arrived in Sahul, were they domesticated or only semi-domesticated canids? Are they domesticated animals gone feral or wild animals not yet domesticated? There is no clear indication when the unusual traits of dingoes arose, due to the paucity of fossil or subfossil remains.” Furthermore the article states that indigenous people make a difference between ‘bush dogs’ and ‘camp dogs’. Bush dogs are self-sustainable, while camp dogs are dependent on humans. Very interestingly in a single life time a bush dog can become a camp dog and the other way too. Maybe the dingo does not fit the strict criteria of an domesticated animal like a sheep or a cow, but they shared a long history with humans too. I saw a video about foxes being domesticated. It took a lot of generations to do, but the first step is to lose it’s innate fear of humans. Maybe domestication goes in steps? From losing fear to becoming co-dependent into becoming fully dependent. Maybe the dingo only partially “transitioned”
@timsbike4887
2 ай бұрын
Well Dingoes were introduced to Australia by humans from Asia so that would suggest they were a domestic dog that then became feral.
That was so interesting, thanks very much. I've lived in Australia for 64 years and I never knew 90 percent of this. Thanks again for the brilliant vid.
@dude-jk2hn
Жыл бұрын
Life works in mysterious ways for some humans.
@yourfinalhiringagency3890
Жыл бұрын
It’s all false
@BalefulBunyip
Жыл бұрын
@@yourfinalhiringagency3890 No it's not all false. That's false 😄
@yourfinalhiringagency3890
Жыл бұрын
@@BalefulBunyip Just think, if dingos are not dogs Bc they were separated from the maj species for thousands of years, are the aboriginals still human? There are lots of false facts in this vid. Many dog breeds have thicker heads than chests. All dogs including dingos were historically domesticated at least some point in their ancestral history. Diff breeds eyes face diff directions, dingos are not different because of this. The airport scenario would overload every single dog unless trained well, dingos can be trained well. The most impossible to deny evidence that they are the same species as other domestic dogs is that they can create viable offspring together. They are dogs. 😂
@BalefulBunyip
Жыл бұрын
@@yourfinalhiringagency3890 no they are a genetically different species. We can tell them apart by their genes enough to give them a different scientific name or we wouldn't do it. The dog is canis lupus familiarus the dingo is canis lupus dingo. Also it is also very difficult and in some cases impossible to train dingoes, they would make absolutely terrible detection dogs at airports for example. I once talked to two dingo handlers at Healesville Sanctuary who were walking a pair of dingoes that they had raised from pups, they said that if they let them if their leashes they would disappear over the horizon and never be seen again. Training an adult dog is easy, training an adult dingo is almost impossible.
Pumbah is such a relaxed and trusting animal. Good natured too.
@thedingochannel
Жыл бұрын
Pumbah is very unique as a Dingo who is quite relaxed around humans he knows. We are very lucky to have him at the Australian Dingo Foundation.
@repealsection230forbigtech4
Жыл бұрын
@@thedingochannel that's not true, dingos are descended from the Indian Timber Wolf, canis lupus pallipes. They are not native to Australia and arrived in Australia as semi domesticated canids brought by a population expansion from India roughly 3500bce to 2500bce. 11% to 30% of Australian Aborigine DNA is from this expansion/colonization from India.
I rescued a blue heeler from animal control not too long ago. She's so flexible it's unreal. She should be a cheerleader! Thanks for sharing this informative, interesting video!!!
Finally a video properly explaining the differences! ❤ thank you
What a beautiful creature. The dingos nice too.
@autonomousindividual7780
Жыл бұрын
You animal. You can't compliment pretty women anymore.
@mikere555
Жыл бұрын
cringe
@lowerquadrant4647
Жыл бұрын
You speak truly, sir.
@fdblade1529
Жыл бұрын
lol
@animerlon
Жыл бұрын
I see what you did there, sneaky.
Whiskers, extreme flexibility, going into whatever small space their heads can fit in. Yap, some cat software and hardware there. Also that Dingo was amazingly patient/well trained. Not many actual dogs would put up with being hung by their legs for a demonstration.
@spvillano
Жыл бұрын
Well, they've a step up on me. I'm notorious for sticking my nose in where it won't fit. ;) Then, she slaps me...
@constantinosschinas4503
Жыл бұрын
Yeah but she said they release dopamine when out of balance if i am not mistaken. So the dog is like sniffing happy pill when hanging.
@downundanow5569
Жыл бұрын
They can't be trained really, not like a dog. You can ask them to do something and they might do it, or they might not. Pumbah is an excellent example of a dingo. He is happy to be hugged, hung upside down or have his front leg moved parallel with his spine, but when he gets tired off it he'd be gone and no calling to him would get him to come back.
A wonderful video; very informative and well made. Thank you so much for sharing this with us all. Pumbah is an absolute heartmelter 🤗
We rescued an American Dingo from a pound that labeled her as a Gr. Pyrenees/Shepherd mix. I've had dogs all my life and knew immediately she was neither of those. After much research, I came across a canine site that asked, "does your dog look like a Dingo?". When I looked at the picture, I gasped. Our little rescue (4 mos. at the time) looked exactly like an Australian Dingo! In fact, she looked almost exactly like the one in this video. They are considered a "primitive" or "pariah" dog with a pure bloodline -- no intermixing with domestic breeds. I read the article and was amazed. She has all the physical characteristics of an Australian Dingo and live in the southern states, primarily the Carolinas and Tennessee (where ours came from), and run wild through their forests, plains, and swamps. Because they den, people collect puppies they come across while the rest of the pack are out hunting. This is how then end up in shelters and miss identified, often as Shepherd crosses. However, unlike the Australian Dingo, American Dingoes (also called Carolina Dogs or Yellow Dogs) are extremely adaptable and easily trained, as they are extremely smart. It only takes one or two times showing them something before they grasp the concept. Our girl, now 8, is a voracious natural hunter. We have absolutely no woodchucks on our 50 acres. She kills every single one she sees/ finds with a snap of the neck. She even attacks coons if she spots one. She is driven by all her senses, movement instantly catches her attention, her ears are always on a swivel, and her nose is constantly testing the air. While she is excellent at conserving her energy, if she sees something, she will take off with an instant burst of speed up to 30 miles/hour. My husband is an avid hunter and takes her rabbit hunting with him. The first time we did this, I had her on a long lead, like one of my horses old lunge lines. My husband spotted a rabbit and shot, our girl ran in the opposite direction of the shot, until she smelled some blood. She instantly stopped, turned around, and ran straight for the rabbit in his hands. The rest of the way home she kept trying to pull at the feet and grab it from him. She has never been afraid of guns since. She instantly understood what it provided. At just 8 mos., while out hunting with "Dad", she chased down a rabbit running on the trail, swiped its hind legs out from under it with one of her front legs causing it to lose its balance, and then dispatched it. Amazingly, she was so proud, she brought it to my husband. I was there and witnessed the whole thing. She has never been trained to do any of this. Another couple things to get used to with these canines is that they can jump up to 4' from a standstill. Freaked me out the fist time she did it, as she cleared our back fence with ease. We used to let our fields grow up quite a bit for the ground nesting birds. I'm only 5' and the grass/weeds would be up to my mid chest. However, Zoe would go out and leap and bound over the grass just playing and looking like a deer except she has a longer, hooked tail bouncing behind her. We have trained her to obey commands using a vibration collar. It only takes about two times of vibration to get her to understand a command. Therefore, while on our property or when we go hunting, she is off-leash with just her collar on. However, we soon realized that she moves silently in the woods despite going under heavy brush or over logs. I mean you hear nothing. We tried putting a bell on her as suggested on a Carolina dog site, but then she refused to even move. We resorted to removing the tape from her dog tags so they would jingle (we taped them because she sleeps in our room). Another thing is the snout pits dug by the females. I came out of our hoop house to check on her one spring and discovered 12 little snout pits at the western end of the hoop house. I had to fill them all in...lol. She is also the only canine we could never train to a large kennel at night. From the time she was a pup, she would go crazy and cry to the point we were afraid she would hurt herself. So, no crate for her. She also hates to go to a boarding kennel when we go away (which is rare). We make sure she gets an actual run, but we have to physically pick her up to get her inside the facility. This is understandable because she was in an SPCA with her 5 siblings for a while. The 3 males we immediately euthanized. The females traveled through 4 different rescues and 4 different names within 2 weeks after being pulled from the shelter. She was traumatized by the time we got her and didn't answer to any name. We kept her last known name, and I trained he to answer to it by using food, as she is very food motivated. We also tried to get her various types of dog beds, but she just threw them around and ripped them to shreds. Finally we found out she likes just plain velour throw blankets like the ones you get at Walmart for $8.99. She will always use her feet and mouth to get them in just the right configuration to plop onto. Otherwise, she will mash herself up against the living room furniture in seemingly impossible positions. I think this is because they naturally den and she likes the security of something pressed against her. Lastly, we had to train her to bark because they are naturally very quiet. Whenever someone drove into our yard, we would all start "barking" like crazy. At first she just looked at us like we were nuts, but she soon got the idea. I must say, of all the dogs I've had in my life, this girl is the most unique and has taught me a lot. I've been blessed with a rare find and she is a great companion. Now I keep my eyes out for possible "Carolina Dogs" on pet adoption sites to let the facilities know that they may have a CD and how to treat them, because they are NOT your typical dog and need a lot of freedom and understanding to be successful in raising them.
Magnificent creatures, and sooo loving and protective of our family. It's a huge privilege to have one in our lives.
@chriswesterfield2042
Жыл бұрын
Can they revert back to wild and aggressive ways?
@keithoades5516
Жыл бұрын
@@chriswesterfield2042 If you flog any canine with sticks, cattle prods and kick it long enough you will end up with a snarling mess of teeth with a bad attitude. My people have bonded with dingo's for thousands of years because we respect and look after each other. The love and protection flows both ways as a result.
@spvillano
Жыл бұрын
@@keithoades5516 therein lies the difference in views. Some consider an animal of any sort a possession, to do with as they will and living creatures must obey blindly. The wise consider an animal as a partner, working together for their desired goals. That's how we ended up with domesticated dogs in the first place, then abused the privilege of that partnership into the mess we see today.
@spvillano
Жыл бұрын
@@chriswesterfield2042 can you? I most certainly can. For me, a vacation is time to disappear into the woods for a week or two, with only what I have on my back. Being on North America, what's to be found is rather plentiful and mostly not harmful. Which also means, I won't hunt elk, mule deer or moose, too much weight to eat being 700 lbs, 250 lbs and 1500 lbs respectively, so we leave one another alone (although mule deer aren't in my region, whitetail deer are and are on the menu at 100 lbs or so, the large bucks not so much and if I need antlers for tools or handles, they're easily found after rutting season). And I'm now of an age that I use a cane to walk! So, when faced with the right conditions, any animal can revert to wild and aggressive ways.
@HkFinn83
Жыл бұрын
@@chriswesterfield2042 there’s actually very little difference in wild and domestic canines in terms of behavior.
The assertion that the ancestors of the dingo never went through the domestication process flies in the face of most archaeological, biogeographical and genetic analyses.
@mabamabam
Жыл бұрын
Also the head wider than chest part.
@Ay-xq7mj
Жыл бұрын
Yeah I think its more than possible we simply helped spread canines. They are one of the oldest domesticated animals on earth.
@bronwenhook6088
Жыл бұрын
Don Hanna: Could you expand on that?
@almcdonald8676
Жыл бұрын
Yes it seems kinda odd to assert that a dingo is different to a “domestic dog” given the massive variety of canis vulgaris
@Bob_Adkins
Жыл бұрын
Not only that, but most dingos are not genetically pure, because they readily breed with domestic dogs. That could also explain the difference in the individual temperament of dingos.
It’s clear to me that the canine line that evolved into dingos is related to our semiferal Indomalayan dogs. They have many similar characteristics, especially the narrow elongated chest, flexibility and almond eyes, and functioning whiskers. Other polynesian dogs like the extinct kuri seemed to have diverged further.
i learned _WAAAAY_ more than i expected to. what a good idea for a video. thanks for making it!
They actually look very similar to the Indian common street dog, but the street dogs usually have even lesser fur than these if they are not from a colder region.
@wilfdarr
Жыл бұрын
Ya I'm in China and we have a few here that made me do a double take. But they act like dogs...
@mortenrl1946
Жыл бұрын
It would be interesting to do some genetic testing on street dog populations, figure out what is actually running around out there 🤔
@wilfdarr
Жыл бұрын
@@mortenrl1946 All sorts: the other day there was a mini opoodle running with the local feral pups, rocking some great elastics in his bangs. Definitely not feral, but if he plays his cards right, his genes too will be running around in the not so distant future!
@stephencoleman3578
Жыл бұрын
I have a Filipino street dog and it looks exactly like a dingo, just smaller. It has a different personality than other dogs, it's more jumpy and nervous. Even though she is 8 years old now, she is still playful, too playful sometimes.
@mandyconnecteddogs
Жыл бұрын
I'm in south Africa and we have a similar thing in the lesser populated areas.... dogs but not quite
I love the flexibility of the Dingo, my Kelpies have some similar features with their almond eyes and upright ears. Love your show thanks.
@thedingochannel
2 жыл бұрын
Kelpies are gorgeous! Thanks for your support ☺️
@lionelhart3839
Жыл бұрын
@@thedingochannel Thanks for your devotion. Could you please check out this channel and the killing of Dingos by the channel presenter. Please advocate for change and re-educate their mindset,that they are not wild dogs,when not in captivity,but as you said, Native Fauna of this land. Thanks. There are a few episodes of this trappers videos that have killed many Dingos. Watch "Get here in a hurry mate! 3" on KZread kzread.info/dash/bejne/gJqbt8-nlpW1dNY.html
They look incredibly similar to Korean Jindos. Korean Jindos are super smart and agile as well.
@justicedemocrat9357
Жыл бұрын
Dingoes originated from Asia and migrated to australia with humans 50 thousand years ago that's why they are closely related to shiba inus and jindos.
@bravefitchick7184
Жыл бұрын
I actually fostered 2 Shiba Inu/Jindo mixes rescued from Korea. Although we found them an excellent home that was familiar with the Jindo, they were NOT the right dogs for me. They would never cuddle and didn't like cuddling. They were born on a dogmeat farm, so they were basically ferral. It was a wonderful experience fostering them and still miss them
@Ryder-qe3ld
Жыл бұрын
@@justicedemocrat9357 50 thousands years??? More like 3 - 6 thousands years ago
@slamyourheadin9449
Жыл бұрын
@@justicedemocrat9357 and it was from China. Say the country next time…
@olorin4317
Жыл бұрын
@@Ryder-qe3ld You might want to read up on when humans first settled Australia.
This was so interesting to watch. Funnily, the most shocking thing for me was how flexible they are. I quickly had to check on my Irish Terrier and he could do the same thing with his legs, who knew. I suspect some dogs possess some of these traits but not in an all-in-one package. Dingos are awesome! Thanks for sharing the knowledge.
The dingo is an introduced species and is thought to have originated in south east Asia. When it arrived in Australia with Aboriginal people it was a domesticated animal used for hunting, to keep humans warm on cold nights and as a companion dog. It is believed by scientists that the dingo once it became feral, was the sole cause of the extinction of the mainland thylacine and it then replaced the thylacine as a top level predator. In THAT regard, dingos are no different to dogs.
@wlg2677
Жыл бұрын
Correct Dingoes are dogs and they did went through the domestication process.
@jeffredfern3744
Жыл бұрын
Canis familiaris. A dingo is a dog, just a basal dog.
Pumbah looks so cute, loving and calm. Give him a pet for me. Thanks for posting this video.
Excellent information thank you. I learn something every day, and I love Pumbah. What a beautiful animal.
He just looks so much like a dog to me that when his arms and legs were lifted up I actually screeched! dogs sure don't bend like that! Pumbah is such a good boy though, I have now fallen in love with Dingoes!
@downundanow5569
Жыл бұрын
Pumbah was shown eating something out of Zali's hand very briefly at 2:06 showing that even their necks are just as flexible. As far as I'm aware, Dingoes are the only Canid that have 360 deg vision.
@Itstime1231
Жыл бұрын
Wild dog vs domesticated dog still dog
I have the pleasure of sharing life with a wonderful coydog named Tanuki. She is an AZ ranch pup, 2nd gen coydog. She shares a ton of similarities as the Dingo, which I admire.
@spvillano
Жыл бұрын
I got to know a wolf-dog, the owner was nervous about our meeting, but we hit it off. Understanding canine body language goes a long way!
@tomindenver1331
Жыл бұрын
We had a high-content coy-dog for 13 years. So many of the characteristics described in the video apply to our girl, Matty. After she passed, we got a red heeler cattle dog who was also verrrry different from most domesticated dogs. Long live pointy ears. :)
@equarg
Жыл бұрын
I got “attacked” by a Coydag. It was HILARIOUS. Stopped at a garage sale while wearing my motorcycle helmet, which some dogs apparently dislike, and this “strange” medium small dog ran out and started chewing up and down my leg (wearing chaps) like a cartoon character eats meat off a bone 🍖. All I could do was raise an eyebrow in confusion.🤨 Why? I felt NOTHING. Felt like a hand going up and down my leg. The owners were absolutely DISMAYED and grabbed her apologizing the entire time they dragged her into the house. The were stammering about how she was a toothless 14 year old coy dog (with rabies shots) and I just about almost died laughing on the spot.🤣💀 I told them THAT explained why I felt nothing. My leg, my chaps, and my feelings were not hurt at all. In fact was I was gonna cherish that encounter for the rest of my life. It was adorable. Owners:😳…..Ok. She is NOT suing or threading to kill our puppy…..yea? They told me how she was trapped by a Montana farmer, and since she acted more like a dog then a coyote, he decided to find her a home instead of shooting her. She was a really pretty girl, interesting coat pattern. They also gave me a great deal on some books.😏
Every single fact was so was fascinating!!! And visually seeing their flexibility and dopamine fall response was hilarious. Now I think about them as their own unique entity. Definitely not a wolf or dog. EDIT: If you feel the urge to put a smart*ss comment about how it's still a dog, just google it and read an article by the Smithsonian museum. Everything she said is correct. Go tell it to the Smithsonian experts, not me.
@VitalityMassage
Жыл бұрын
Despite the differences, they are DEFINITELY dogs. Just not domesticated. Everything about them screams DOG.
@spvillano
Жыл бұрын
@@VitalityMassage yes, but wild dog, not domesticated as you pointed out. When they arrived on the continent, they were barely at an early domestication stage, which today is still considered quite wild. So, one can tame them easily enough with cooperative behavior, domesticated in any way, nope. Any other approach simply turns a relationship into an adversarial one, which isn't a good idea with any predator.
@coppulor6500
Жыл бұрын
I wonder if I get a dopamine boost if I hang upside down. how funny would it be if this became a thing because of dingos.
@josecoope2211
Жыл бұрын
100% dog, all mammals down under were marsupials, except the ones people brought with them.
@josecoope2211
Жыл бұрын
@@spvillano Previously domesticated they came with people. They didn't chase people there in their boats.
I really enjoyed this video. Sounds like a very nice companion for someone who doesn’t like to live in a city. I had a dog once that was half coyote. It was in the 1980’s and I was working in the middle of a large town, building a condo (carpenter). My dog came up at lunchtime with a live fish, maybe nine inches long, and laid it down in front of me. Another time she brought me a bologna sandwich in a brown paper bag. She was an amazing animal. The wild part of her made her one of the best dogs I ever had.
It's really remarkable how cool Pumbah is with her demonstrating his physical features! 😄
What a great analysis of Dingos. Thanks for producing this. I was surprised how friendly and flexible he is, Wow.
The part about their heads vs their chests was really interesting. I never looked at my dog thoughtfully enough to realize this important difference!
Pumbah is an absolutely awesome representative, and educator, of his species. Zali presents him well and is so knowledgeable, to boot. Very informative video.
Love this, what a sweet wild fur baby. Obviously he is very fond of you
Marvelous animal! They can probably give us insight into what pre domesticated dogs were like.
That is different. Great explanation. He really seems to love and trust you...so you're probably quite nice. Great video.
Our pups are a mix of queensland x aussie shep x bordercollie x mcnabb herding dog and chow chow. Some how, in about 40 tp 50 percent of our pups, we get ALL these dingo/indigenous dog qualities...hunting insect, flexibility, even as much as poomba...excellent sight and smell capabilities...VERY SENSITIVE to touch and very mischeivious...this also lends to assist dogs...so far we have one a seisure detect dog, one a hearing assist dog, 1 an emotional support dog, and one lets its owner know when a multiple sclorosis episode is coming on...my dogs climb trees, they den, go limp when picked up as pups...they dig up insects, toads, kill squirrels, have taken on a bear...best dogs in the world, this 5 way mix is incredible
Very informative. What a beautiful, amazing creature. Thank you!
Thanks for this video! Pumbah is such a good boy!! Please tell him that! And nose boops if he likes those. 👍
Great video, I’ve learned a lot about Dingos. No wonder they can survive so well in harsh conditions.
Such a beautiful animal. Thanks for the info. Always knew they were special, and never assumed they were just feral domestic dogs.
Wow! Thanks Zali, I was always fascinated by these beautiful creatures. I knew they weren't originally feral dogs, but I had no idea of the many differences between tham and our own beloved companions. Pumbah just exudes charm and elegance. I am looking forward to learning more from you. I wish you rainbows Zali.
If it is a Canis it has been inported in Australia at some point in history. Dingo is now native, I would never doubt that. Just like the fox is. Ever looked at a pack of Indian wild dogs? I could see those evolving to dingoes and it wouldn't take 500 years in Australian nature and climates.
@sobakathehusky
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, they are dogs lol. But I get her point. They’re dogs whose lineage is far separated by many generations of survival. Funny how people have such short concepts of time (obviously limited by lifespan). Starts with Dingo isn’t a dog, then domesticated dog. Looks like a coyote and husky met and had some fun to me. Cool breed though. Definitely a dog, genetically a canid. Dingos are dogs, undomesticated dogs, 100%.
@wilfdarr
Жыл бұрын
"Undomesticated dogs" is probably the most accurate way of putting it I've heard. I do get her point though that they are nothing like a dog and you need to leave your expectations at the door.
I got a rescue pup last year from the local vet in my town. A litter of pups headed for another state were handed in due to covid restrictions stopping them from travelling to their destination at the time and they needed urgent rehoming, or at least that was the story. They were handed in as kelpie x healer pups. My dog is now a year old and it's clear by his blue spots and patches that he's definitely part blue healer, but he's definitely not the other half kelpie. I've been trying to figure out what his other breed is so I can better manage him, as he's a lovely animal but he can be a bit of a handful. It was the extreme flexibility in his paws and the strange ways he uses them - definitely not like a dog, it's more like a cat! I've even seen him pick up things with his front feet like he's got fingers. That brought me to watching this video in the first place. After watching this video and running him through some "tests" including measuring his head vs shoulders, testing his flexibility, even measuring the angle of his eyes, I now admittedly still very sceptically suspect that I may have a blue healer x dingo. I think I need to do a lot more research on dingos! Please make more videos about them.
@mavv7088
Жыл бұрын
We inherited an animal that was sold to the original owners as a dingo kelpie cross. All I can say is I have seen very little kelpie behaviour. He has the rotating head and the flexible front paws, as well as the jumping and climbing habits. I have seen him clear a 6 foot fence from a sitting start. I have also given up on training him. In my opinion, dogs have masters, cats have slaves, but dingos work on a negotiated contract. If you want them to do something, there has to be something in it for them. Usually food.
This was really interesting, especially the floppy body demo when losing footing! Pumba is a handsome chap.
Greetings from SoCal… 🤓🖐. I am 64 and just learned a lot about Dingoes! 👍👍👍
So cool I never knew any of that about Dingos.
This video has helped me identify the traits of my half Lab half cattle dog. She loves to lay under the coffee table since she was 6 weeks old.She can turn her head around like a owl.She can stretch her back legs straight out.She is always using her front feet to grab things.She only let's me dry her feet.She love's catching rabbits, she stalks them for long periods of time.I think now her dad who was a pure bred Australian cattle dog probably had dingo in him and she is very stubborn when she wants her way.
@1998TDM
Жыл бұрын
Opened my eyes to my rescue dog, too. Her nickname is Dingo.. Her traits and looks seem like a combination of sight hound, bull terrier and heeler. Ridiculously flexible, big upright ears, fast as a whip, loves wriggling into dirty, smelly, orifices and is constantly on point. Nailed her first rat before she was 6 months old. She's turning into an amazing dog.
Wow, many of these i'd never heard before! An outstanding video
Its obvious that you have domesticated Pumba quite thoroughly and made a lovely pet of him - he is beautiful.
@thedingochannel
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your comment Sandra. He sure is beautiful. Pumbah has been tamed, which is different to domestication. To domesticate an animal, selective breeding is involved over generations. Also, he lives at the Dingo Discovery Sancturay, he is not a pet.
In the south eastern US, we have a dog we call Dingoes. They were a land race breed that became feral and were rediscovered in the 80's. Like true Dingoes they adapted to their environment which was the swamp lands of the Carolinas, hence the name Carolina Dogs. Our little boy looks so much like Australia's Dingoes, but god help you if you tried to hold him like that!
@blaiseronstadt6306
Жыл бұрын
I know those, we called them Carolina 🐕 Dogs
@louiserawle8999
Жыл бұрын
The big difference is tho,they are not dingoes.
@uncletiggermclaren7592
Жыл бұрын
You simply have not trained the dog properly.
@jkoysza1
Жыл бұрын
Genetic analysis indicates that Carolina Dogs are closely related to Dingoes. May be that Asian origin, with one group going south with humans and another group going east thru Alaska and eventually to the Carolinas. There are still wild Carolina Dogs in southwestern South Carolina supposedly descended from Native American dogs.
They look and probably are related to the dogs in the Indian and Indonesian continent , came down when there was a land bridge all the way down to Australasia
@marinodejesus8024
Жыл бұрын
They were introduced by people when they entered Australia nearly 5-4k years ago. Not everything she said on the video should be taken as gospel. Do some separate research on your own as well. Their ancestors were certainly domesticated dogs that went feral.
Woooow, what a beautiful animal! Its adaptions are so freaking cool
It's really interesting, because some of the traits mentioned are in certain dog breeds as well. Like the Lundehund that can bend its head all the way back and have so flexible shoulder joints that they can have both legs straight out to the side. It makes me wonder about the ancestor of our dogs and what it was like.
I love how much he Loves u…
What do studies of their genetics tell us? There is an astounding variety of physical attributes among dogs. Wouldn’t it be better to look at genetic info than physical characteristics in deciding whether a dingo is just a type of dog?
@wilfdarr
Жыл бұрын
In theory, but we still don't understand what a lot of the genetic code is telling us, how things interact etc, so we look at what we can see.
@smidgen
7 ай бұрын
the studies say they're dogs lmao
Absolutely brilliant little video thanks for sharing.
Beautiful animals🎉 Thanks for sharing 🙏🙏🙏
Our dog is a Carolina Dog Australia cattle dog mix. She has a lot of the same traits. They really take a lot of flexibility on the part of the human and work. Ivermectin is commonly prescribed to dogs and Carolina dogs don't process that medication well. They look a lot like Dingos because it looks like they and Dingos decended from the same genetic stock. They both adapted to their environment. Wild Carolina Dogs are almost extinct in the wild and there are plans to breed out the traits that are undesirable and domesticate them. I think that by the time they are done they won't be much like the Carolina Dog that can be found in the wild. Melody our "dog" is much like a cat too as far as trainabilty. She does want to please, but she has a lot of instincts. This is what happens when you get a dog like this. We discovered what she was when she almost died from the Ivermectin. We have her now and she is part of our pack. The lady we got her from Had the red heeler and said the father was a fence jumper and it looked like it was a lab. Carolina dogs are also commonly mistaken as lab mixes. I would not recommend these dogs to people and while they are a canine both the Dingo and the Carolina Dog they have needs and instincts that make having them as pets problematic.
Very very interesting. looks to Me like the dingo is as much a dog, as a fox is. Very different yet lookalike animals. Thank You very much Zali
@mabamabam
Жыл бұрын
A dingo is 100% a dog. It will easily have healthy pups with any domestic dog. A dingo is a quite distant breed of dog but still a dog
@HankHopeless
Жыл бұрын
@@mabamabam OK johno,I have to accept the facts. Now that You mention it: I DID know that a dingo could breed with domestic dogs, but for some reason I forgot about it. You are of course right, so thank You for cleaning up the mess i almost created
You and Pumbah demonstrated dingo characteristics very well even the ability to go floppy upon losing footing. Nice job.
Pumbah is absolutely adorable!
I got an Australian Cattle Dog, one year old female, two months ago. She is super smart. I leave her in the bathroom/mud room when I am at work. She has learned how to open cabinets and drawers. Her prey instincts, even with bugs, is amazing. Knowing their lineage with Dingos for which I have much respect she may well be the most amazing and yet challenging pup I have ever had!
@rushthezeppelin
Жыл бұрын
Yeah this explains a lot about heelers. Had a red one growing, insanely loyal, insanely smart and pretty darn stubborn.
@MideanStone
Жыл бұрын
you lock your dog in a room while you are at work? wtf is wrong with you?
The is Australia's wild dog. It is an ancient breed of domestic dog that was introduced to Australia, probably by Asian seafarers, about 4,000 years ago.
@zachburskey8868
Жыл бұрын
Yeah and they're the record holders for successful hunts in Africa.
@natevanderw
Жыл бұрын
If it was 4,000 years, ago, then it would be domesticated as dogs were domesticated 10's of thousands of years ago.
@Inexpressable
Жыл бұрын
@@natevanderw hence why he said 'ancient breed of domestic dog'
@avatr7109
Жыл бұрын
Yea but the important question is.. why cats remained Arseholes
@morganjonasson2947
Жыл бұрын
@@zachburskey8868 you mean australia?
Wow nice info..and nice place to relax and enjoy the nature
Very interesting video, beautiful area there too. Pumbah seems in good hands!
This was fascinating, thanks muchly for sharing. I knew dingos were not just wild dogs, but didn't realize just how different the two are.
They are beautiful! Like a cross between a dog and a fox. That was very informative thank you!
What a fantastic treat it was to find your channel today on my homepage. New subscriber now…. and kinda obsessed with dingos❤️😎
Very informative. I just learned something new today. Thank you.
"They have also never been through the domestication process" juxtaposed with a woman holding a dingo to her face just seems funny to me.
@kathybrem880
Жыл бұрын
And…..she’s wrong
I am an Aussie but that was a really informative video on Dingoes,thank you.
Great review! I learned more than I ever knew about dingos..
It is hard to turn my eyes away from Zali.
I think most of these traits are actually seen in at least some dog breeds as well. Dog breeds can vary so much in their traits, that some of them are probably more similar to a dingo than a beagle…
@Itstime1231
Жыл бұрын
My dog is labeled Korean village dog (per embark) and has similar flexibility as shown in this video with the dingo. Haven't done the tree drop test, she can't climb trees like they do, but I'd say she's much more similar to a dingo than a beagle. Though still a domesticated dog, known as a primitive dog :). Still has almond eyes but more forward facing on her face. If you Google Korean village dog you will see the similarities. They are the free ranging dogs of the region, not as wild as a dingo, just a landrace dog
@DinoPimp
9 ай бұрын
It seems Dingos are actually Canis Familiaris. They have just been feral for several thousand years.
I learned a lot! Thank you for this video!!
I read something once that related that there is something unique about the structure of the skull only found in wolves, dingoes and Rhodesian ridgebacks, I can’t recall what exactly it is. I have as one of my life companions a malamute/Rhodesian ridgeback mix intact female of two years old named Honey, Honey’s build and behavior is nearly spot on to everything described about dingoes. Especially when compared to our other companion Layna who is an intact female pit/lab mix of 8 years old, two very different personalities yet inseparable pack companions. Honey doesn’t bark, she does a cough like sound, a low whoo whoo a sort of crying like sound. She dens, buries everything, eats nearly any bug that falls within her perception and annihilates moles, shrews or anything that burrows with gusto. Perhaps the strain of Hottentot dog from the ridgeback mixed with malamute caused a genetic throwback? Oh, Honey is amazingly flexible and scary smart…. And amazingly destructive to material items in our house if left at home with Layna for more than a few minutes.
I had no idea... thank you for this educational video!
Where I live we have the Caroling Dog also known as the American Dingo. They look just like the Aussie Dingos. I plan to get one in a few years. I recall as a schoolboy my classmates hunting them. Back then they had no idea what they were shooting, I'm sure. I really want to see them make a comeback. There are very few left in the wild.
@laurenvega-cruz4718
2 жыл бұрын
Hunting should be banned. Vile monsters shooting beautiful animals makes me sick.
@Jet_Threat
2 жыл бұрын
They are beautiful. Mine makes similar vocalizations to Australian dingoes. She is independent and not easy to “train.” Everything has to be fair or make sense-she will do tricks for piece of chicken, but if you don’t have something to give her in return, forget about it. She also tries to pick the direction she wants to go on walks.
I’m not sure I believe you when you say they don’t train well - that is one of the most well behaved good bois I’ve ever seen.
@thedingochannel
Жыл бұрын
I don’t blame you haha. Pumbah is one of a kind. Like other Dingoes, he has absolutely no recall and would never do tricks on command. Unless there are treats involved. He is just very relaxed and comfortable around humans he knows well. I’m so lucky to work with him.
@HkFinn83
Жыл бұрын
Big difference between a calm confident animal and an animal that’s ‘easy to train’
Hello Zali and Elliott I’m Patty from Merluna Station, so cool you have a KZread channel and you’re following what you’re passionate about 🥰 New subscriber right at ya! 🙌🏻😘
Brilliant video and presentation, Zali!. I learned more from your video about dingoes than I did from working in association with the CSIRO Division of Wildlife for 10 years. They were a bunch of academic zeroes!! Keep up the good work!
For an animal that has not gone through domestication, it's very tolerant of you, and even affectionate.
@thedingochannel
Жыл бұрын
Pumbah has a very unique personality, where he is very comfortable around humans he knows. I am so fortunate to have worked with him 🐾
@je2338
6 ай бұрын
Because it has gone through domestication. She is completely wrong.
Your definition of "dog" vs a "dingo" pretty matches most of the dog breeds found in grouping "spitzer" which includes the husky and shiba inu (same chest/shoulder patterns).
@tananario
Жыл бұрын
You didn’t listen.
@aaronpatterson2369
Жыл бұрын
@@tananario its still a damn dog. Cuz it aint an f'in cat or lizard or a kangaroo or a bird or a spider etc.
Dingos will never know the adrenaline rush from skydiving.
Thank you, that was pretty cool, I can only imagine you truly enjoy and love your relationship. Stay safe and be blessed, crazy times we are living in. Danny in Texas
I’m training my dingo barrajanda to sniff out wild native bee hives. It won’t be easy. Its been nearly impossible to get him to play with me. So scared. I got him at 12 weeks old, his mother was shot by a farmer and he was dumped at a vet
@NathanChisholm041
Жыл бұрын
Native bees are cool mate! We have some Blue Banded Bees here in Perth WA plus other native bees.
Dingo IS a dog : not a domestic one, but a wild dog (like the lycaon or the dhole). But anyway, even wild, it remains a dog.
I'm going to pick up my dingo tomorrow,to say I'm excited is understatement.
Really cool video, informative, and what great training you have done!! 🥰
"Dingoes are not domesticated." Dingo snuggles her and looks up for a kiss.
@GuyFromTheSouth
Жыл бұрын
LOL
@kathybrem880
Жыл бұрын
I don’t know what she means by that claim, they lived with Australian Aboriginal people and migrated to Australia with humans . They breed easily with dogs.
The concensus seems to be that dingos evolved from a domestic dog (maybe mixed a bit more with wolves), that came to Australia via boat around 4,000 years (the land bridge was already underwater at that point), and after that they became more wild. So it's not quite true when you say that "they never underwent the domestication process".
Thank you. I've learned more in this video than I have in a lifetime .
Wonderful video. I learned so much! Thank you.
A theory: thousands of years ago, when the first settlers arrived at Australia, they brought these dogs along. Likely they were from the nearest lands - Southern/Eastern Asia. That's whay even today you can still see striking similarities between dingos and the prevelant domestic dogs of those areas. There are even official breeds that vaguely resemble dingos. However, the fun part is that these domesticated, yet (at that time still) primitive dogs kind of went stray in Australia, and readjusted themselves to the wild lifestyle. Thus, instead of artificial selection, the NATURAL one took place, and we now see the dingos as incredible, flexible hunters and well-adapted survivors. That's also how they evolved to lack some characteristics that us, humans, find useful in dogs (like obedience).
@applasamysubbharao2578
Жыл бұрын
Interesting. So , it is possible to genetic code dingos to dogs around the world and this might give us better proof of human migration. ?
I think Dingos give us a window into the wild canids that we wound up eventually domesticating into dogs.
@patrickmccurry1563
Жыл бұрын
Not really as dingos are descended from dogs brought over long after the original humans entered Australia.
youve made me love dingos. what a fine public speaker and advocate you are.
dingoes ARE descended from domesticated dogs, and they still are dogs (wild dogs). they've been living wild in australia for thousands of years, but their ancestors got there as domesticated dogs. they were definitely brought by humans, and those humans did not bring wild dogs or wolves, they brought domesticated dogs. of course thousands of years in the wild are plenty of time to consider them wild and native australian animals now. they could stick their heads into water holes better if it was natrow, so that idea of having a wide head to better get down in water holes doesn't seem sound. they probably have wide heads for the same reason hyenas do, to fit bigger jaw muscles for cracking bones or armors.
@frankmageean6027
Жыл бұрын
Dingoes are very similar to the feral dogs of Asia which are descended from Asian wild dogs. The people who brought dingoes to Australia 4 or 5000 years ago brought what was basically a 5th generation Asian wolf and set it free. The dingo reverted to type. To this day you can walk around villages in lots of Asia and see feral dogs that have never been with humans apart from scavenging from our campsites. These dogs are basically Asian wolves who have adapted to human civilisation without becoming domesticated. Like the foxes of London and every other large British city. They're wild animals who live in civilisation.
@Ass_of_Amalek
Жыл бұрын
Frank Mageean no. wolves in asia are grey wolf subspecies that fully look like wolves. dingoes and other wild dogs in asia and polynesia look like dogs because they descend from FULLY domesticated dogs, hundreds of generations of domestication (humans domesticated dogs thousands of years before anybody got to australia, they were probably the first animal to be domesticated). and they have had significant continued genetic contact with domestic dogs in places where humans continued to keep dogs. dingoes are no more related to wolves than a shiba inu is.
@frankmageean6027
Жыл бұрын
@@Ass_of_Amalek ok, your definition of wolf is very dependent on whether the canine in question has had interaction with humans. These canines can survive perfectly well with or without humans. They are wild animals that have learned to exploit their environment. Like a jackel, a coyote,a fox. All are wild predators that use humans to thrive but don't NEED humans to thrive. Dingoes, and Asian feral dogs, are able to thrive with or without humans. At what point did the wolf become a dog? At what point did the dog revert to wolf?
@Ass_of_Amalek
Жыл бұрын
Frank Mageean there is no reversion to wolf in wild dogs. they will only ever be wild dogs unless they hybridize with wolves, in which case they are wolf/dog hybrids. "dog" is a very wide category that one could technically apply to most or all canids and is used for species like african wild dogs that have nothing to do with domestication. "wolf" is a narrow category referring to non-domesticated canis lupus and some related undomesticated species. no wild dog descended entirely from domestic dogs, as dingoes are, will ever revert to being a wolf. particularly since clearly they don't even evolve to morphologically resemble them.
@frankmageean6027
Жыл бұрын
@@Ass_of_Amalek Wild wolves would most definitely have mated with native camp dogs for centuries. Canines domesticated humans thousands of years ago. The idea that a male wolf ignored a camp dog bitch on heat due to purity reasons is preposterous. Camp dare wolf descendants. Given enough time and evolutionary pressure the domestic dog will revert to a version of a wolf In the dingoes case, it is more like a Mexican wolf than a timber wolf or Arctic wolf