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Enough is Enough! The Line Has Been Crossed!

In today's furious rant, I share my frustrations with the Milwaukee Fuel M18 framing saw. In my experience, when set to its maximum depth, it doesn't clear a speed square, which is a crucial tool for making precise cuts. Compared to the West Coast-style saws like the Skil Mag 77 or my DeWalt Flexvolt, which easily clear a speed square and have the blade on the left for better visibility, this is quite disappointing.
I'll also address some of the feedback I've received, suggesting I use my other hand (even though I'm right-handed) or avoid setting the saw so deep. These suggestions, in my opinion, miss the practical reality of needing to use a speed square for deep cuts. Join me as I share my thoughts and frustrations. Let's discuss! Many of our videos are comedic & satirical & not intended to cultivate antisocial or unlawful behavior.
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  • @Ravespillo
    @RavespilloАй бұрын

    This is how the U.S. Forest Service fights the whole internet.

  • @wranglerstar

    @wranglerstar

    Ай бұрын

    his made my chuckle, thank you , beloved,

  • @Ravespillo

    @Ravespillo

    Ай бұрын

    @@wranglerstar Furious Rants give me great joy, so I'm glad you got something good back!

  • @chuckray8389

    @chuckray8389

    Ай бұрын

    Problem with people is they are too much peoplie,😂 stop being people and just be smart!

  • @alexanderwhite298

    @alexanderwhite298

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@wranglerstar I did a quick search online and I think you have a left-handed saw there instead of right handed one. I typed in Milwaukee left handed circular saw and got pictures of both left facing saw blades and right facing saw blades. I did the same with right handed circular saws and got similar results. I think you're just tired and hungry and thirsty so just go on the porch with a cold glass of hard ice tea and rock your worries away in a rocking chair.

  • @lonnielacaillade2019

    @lonnielacaillade2019

    Ай бұрын

    East coast guy here that marks the length with a pencil puts a square line on the mark and cuts the lumber. Yes without using the square as a guide.

  • @mattfinn27
    @mattfinn27Ай бұрын

    I've experienced this flaw on other brand cordless and corded saws before. I believe this is a problem with Engineers who've never actually used a saw in a production environment while trying to make tools more "streamline" and compact.

  • @mr.clancy1598
    @mr.clancy1598Ай бұрын

    Flip the speed square 180, the saw blade will clear the material before hitting the lip of the square - I am an east coast man. Continuing to solve west coast problems

  • @aaronwidder4458

    @aaronwidder4458

    28 күн бұрын

    😂exactly!

  • @lidlett9883
    @lidlett9883Ай бұрын

    You're not wrong. It does have a major flaw. It's not a wormdrive Wormdrives were first known as a 77 skill saw. That red thing is a circular saw. Circular saws are for hobbyists. Skillsaws are for men with calloused hands

  • @LordVader407

    @LordVader407

    Ай бұрын

    Every saw with a round blade is a circular saw. The type of circular saw is what changes the name. Miter saw, chop saw, brewco, wormdrive, Cut off, are all types of circular saws. Skill is a company that makes saws.

  • @bk7278

    @bk7278

    Ай бұрын

    Worm drives suck

  • @jasonperkins1654

    @jasonperkins1654

    Ай бұрын

    Skill saw is a brand . Not a mechanical name for a saw. Real men know the difference

  • @daviddoesit2341

    @daviddoesit2341

    Ай бұрын

    Aye they cooking u 👆🏾👀😳

  • @lidlett9883

    @lidlett9883

    Ай бұрын

    @@LordVader407 in a word NO! Just because they have blade the spins in a circular motion does not make them a circular saw. When you go to a tool store and ask to see a miter saw they do not show you a circular saw. They will show you a small 6¼ circular saw that is not a worm drive. At the age of 16th my father gave me a all metal body 77 Skillsaw. In 1979, I said to him but dad I was hoping for a car. He looked me smiled and said"Son that saw will buy you many cars" and it did.

  • @earthboy9622
    @earthboy9622Ай бұрын

    I'm lefthanded - Finally an advantage! Now on to scissors.

  • @escapetherace1943

    @escapetherace1943

    Ай бұрын

    WISS makes some good left handed scissors. We're winning, pal!

  • @Prepare2Prosper

    @Prepare2Prosper

    Ай бұрын

    We need to form a special interest group and lobby congress. We are clearly an oppressed minority

  • @robb8331

    @robb8331

    Ай бұрын

    there are left handed notch trowels

  • @josh857

    @josh857

    Ай бұрын

    Sinistrophobia is real 😢

  • @christopherd5941

    @christopherd5941

    Ай бұрын

    Where’s my left handed hammer, damnit!?

  • @zeroskill.
    @zeroskill.Ай бұрын

    i came expecting the manifesto, severely disappointed

  • @LKS-1976

    @LKS-1976

    Ай бұрын

    Ditto

  • @SeanMurphy00

    @SeanMurphy00

    Ай бұрын

    Haha same here… speaking of manifestos, I highly recommend Ted Kazinsky’s Manifesto if you haven’t already listened to it.

  • @LKS-1976

    @LKS-1976

    Ай бұрын

    @@SeanMurphy00 great read. Good ole Uncle Ted

  • @rammbostein

    @rammbostein

    Ай бұрын

    I thought he would show us a partially armored Komatsu D335A with the rest of sheet metal waiting to be welded on

  • @ryankc3631

    @ryankc3631

    Ай бұрын

    Yeah, thought he was calling up the Minute Men.

  • @motorrad2
    @motorrad2Ай бұрын

    jesus christ, I framed for years and never used a flippin' square as a guide when cutting beams

  • @capg5806
    @capg5806Ай бұрын

    I am a right handed carpenter, and I own a “left-handed” porter cable, circular saw that I’ve had for almost 18 years. It’s the best circular saw ever because I can actually see the blade and see my cut.

  • @narutobroken
    @narutobrokenАй бұрын

    Milwaukee makes another model with the blade on the other side

  • @scottverge938

    @scottverge938

    Ай бұрын

    Yep, but it's not as common.

  • @RedundantBuoyancy

    @RedundantBuoyancy

    Ай бұрын

    ​@scottverge938 yea people don't know the difference

  • @scottverge938

    @scottverge938

    Ай бұрын

    @@RedundantBuoyancy so it seems.

  • @KansanWolf

    @KansanWolf

    Ай бұрын

    What is the model?

  • @scottverge938

    @scottverge938

    Ай бұрын

    @@KansanWolf you'd have to look it up on their website but I'm almost certain it exists, if not you could buy their worm drive saw like the dewalt he's using in the video.

  • @r.rodriguez4991
    @r.rodriguez4991Ай бұрын

    Looking online it looks like there are left and right handed versions of the saw.

  • @narutobroken

    @narutobroken

    Ай бұрын

    Yeah I don’t understand the outrage, he bought the wrong tool

  • @johngreydanus2033

    @johngreydanus2033

    Ай бұрын

    Is that "right"? Pun intended. That would be so awesome, he will have to rant at himself now.

  • @michaelhislop4840

    @michaelhislop4840

    Ай бұрын

    Yeah they do

  • @tommychong1173

    @tommychong1173

    Ай бұрын

    Yup they certainly do. Or any 6 1/2 inch saw also left hand sighted

  • @kaptainkrunch6179

    @kaptainkrunch6179

    Ай бұрын

    Maybe we'll hear about the left handed scissors he bought next.

  • @greatamculture
    @greatamcultureАй бұрын

    Suggestion…flip the speed square so that it s pointing toward you on the other side of your work. By the time the body of the saw reaches the stop on the speed square you should have a full cut or at least nearly a full cut. Follow through on each side to complete. Give it a try and let me know what you think.

  • @mastershepherd3777

    @mastershepherd3777

    Ай бұрын

    That's how I do it.

  • @logicVSpassion
    @logicVSpassionАй бұрын

    As a pro framer... The better saw depends on the application. For rough framing, a wormdrive is superior. For trim and bevel cuts, a circular saw (the Milwaukee) can be a better option because this style of saw has better precision and stability than a wormdrive. In practice, this saw is usually used with the wide side of the table toward the workpiece. The best framers I know use both, even just for cutting fascia and decking.

  • @jfarmer1672
    @jfarmer1672Ай бұрын

    You clearly need to grind the lip of the speed square down with the bench grinder…. Just like Midwest man.

  • @johngreydanus2033

    @johngreydanus2033

    Ай бұрын

    But then you need 2 of them, one for left and one for right.

  • @dustonstine7549

    @dustonstine7549

    Ай бұрын

    Why would you compromise a tool whenever the engineers should actually be doing their job properly and listening to customer and contractor feedback?

  • @donaldmatthies6026

    @donaldmatthies6026

    Ай бұрын

    @jfarmer1672, I live in the Midwest and hell no! Why wreck a tool like a speed square to accommodate inferior junk, you are wrong on this one!

  • @jfarmer1672

    @jfarmer1672

    Ай бұрын

    @@dustonstine7549 I think you should look above your head…. You might see the joke…..

  • @johngreydanus2033

    @johngreydanus2033

    Ай бұрын

    @@jfarmer1672 I got it HA HA HA, I've had a search and apparently saws are classified as left or right BLADE.

  • @edzachary8657
    @edzachary8657Ай бұрын

    Framing crews don't use their speed square as a guide, we don't need it

  • @quickchicken506

    @quickchicken506

    Ай бұрын

    You lie much?

  • @waynewebb7377

    @waynewebb7377

    Ай бұрын

    so that is why there are no square corners or ceilings in most houses...

  • @winnebagochaingang7172

    @winnebagochaingang7172

    Ай бұрын

    Square a pencil mark on whatever you wish to cut…genius!

  • @edzachary8657

    @edzachary8657

    Ай бұрын

    @@quickchicken506 I have never seen one framer on any job I've been on put down their speed square as a guide to cut on a line

  • @edzachary8657

    @edzachary8657

    Ай бұрын

    @@winnebagochaingang7172 he was using it as a guide to cut on that pencil mark, genius

  • @JamesKonzek-xr5zy
    @JamesKonzek-xr5zyАй бұрын

    A little flavored lip balm & Mr Wranglstar here will be dolled up lookin' like George Michael.

  • @Hisdudeness799
    @Hisdudeness799Ай бұрын

    When you’re right you’re right.

  • @dinneryeti

    @dinneryeti

    Ай бұрын

    No, it goes on the left!

  • @chuckmiller5763
    @chuckmiller5763Ай бұрын

    And Milwaukee makes a rear handle saw, just like the Dewalt rear handle, just like Dewalt makes a battery sidewinder like that Milwaukee sidewinder that will not clear the square at full depth either.

  • @narutobroken

    @narutobroken

    Ай бұрын

    Yeah I don’t understand, Milwaukee makes probably six different versions of those saws, with blades on either side and with the worm drive handle in the back

  • @geoffkeller5337

    @geoffkeller5337

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@narutobrokenHe's doing it for views

  • @matthellcat2494

    @matthellcat2494

    Ай бұрын

    Agreed

  • @illiniwood

    @illiniwood

    Ай бұрын

    @@geoffkeller5337 No, I read the comments on the video he's talking about. They're pretty bad. There are truly a lot of dolts in this world. I've worked with a few myself. To be fair, for some, I've too have been the dolt at times.

  • @genewitch

    @genewitch

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@geoffkeller5337wtf else would you film a video in 4k and edit it and upload it. You're a genius, bro

  • @jimmyhoffa70
    @jimmyhoffa70Ай бұрын

    I'm a 57 year old East Coast carpenter. I can't believe the point hasn't been made about bevel cutting. Most people prefer a right bevel saw for long point measurements. There's got to be a reason why most saws on the market are right bevel and why they changed from the original old SKIL design, right ? ( even SKIL makes them ) My only irk with them is, being right handed, the narrow part of the table is on the material when trimming doors and counter tops.

  • @dennisminnick6677
    @dennisminnick6677Ай бұрын

    I’m a left handed west coast guy. Worm drive saws used with my left hand my entire career. I just got used to it.Semi retired now at 76. Also I miss work. Blessings.

  • @zekefrye706
    @zekefrye706Ай бұрын

    Third generation carpenter here. I put the fence of the square on the opposite side of the board than you. The cut will be well established and nearly finished before the motor hits. I just raise the rear of the saw slightly to finish the cut. It also gives more of a reference edge to guide the saw starting the cut in narrower boards with the tip of the square hanging off towards you. It’s just habit and second nature now. However I rarely use that method. It’s faster for me to strike a line and cut straight than to line up a square. It’s especially easier if the wood has tension and you need to back up multiple times to relieve the cut. Fooling with a square while cutting isn’t effective or efficient enough to be my go to method. Enjoy your channel from time to time btw.

  • @BizzaroInc

    @BizzaroInc

    Ай бұрын

    this is answer for why the motor is on that side

  • @user-iu9uj1yz2f

    @user-iu9uj1yz2f

    Ай бұрын

    Bro, I'm not a professional carpenter, and even I can tell what you're saying about adjusting during a cut sounds stupid. You, sir, are hilarious. The indian dude at the beginning of the comments got it right. That saw by milwaukee is for the hobbiest.

  • @An_Attempt

    @An_Attempt

    Ай бұрын

    @@user-iu9uj1yz2f The thing is professionals tend to get odd habits in their trades, and carpentry can be an interesting blend of science and art. No two seem to do things quite the same.

  • @zekefrye706

    @zekefrye706

    Ай бұрын

    I don’t comment on videos much. I was just trying to help. It’s not an uncommon technique that I mentioned. Maybe I wasn’t clear. I don’t stop during the cut to adjust the sole. I don’t let off the trigger. I don’t slow down. With the motor running, I keep the front, bottom of the sole referenced on wood and the left side of the sole referenced on the square. I simply lift the rear of the saw while finishing the cut. I’ve built somewhere in the ballpark of 20 million dollars worth of multi million dollar luxury lake homes and countless smaller projects. The motor on the left or right (I own both) matters more to me when cutting certain bevels. I hope that’s less stupid and hilarious. Sorry if you didn’t or don’t gather what I’m trying to say. I was only trying to help.

  • @zekefrye706

    @zekefrye706

    Ай бұрын

    I don’t comment on videos much. I was just trying to help. It’s not an uncommon technique that I mentioned. Maybe I wasn’t clear. I don’t stop during the cut to adjust the sole. I don’t let off the trigger. I don’t slow down. With the motor running, I keep the front, bottom of the sole referenced on wood and the left side of the sole referenced on the square. I simply lift the rear of the saw while finishing the cut. I’ve built somewhere in the ballpark of 20 million dollars worth of multi million dollar luxury lake homes and countless smaller projects. The motor on the left or right (I own both) matters more to me when cutting certain bevels. I hope that’s less stupid and hilarious. Sorry if you didn’t or don’t gather what I’m trying to say. I was only trying to help.

  • @zactillett9820
    @zactillett9820Ай бұрын

    I miss the furious rants. Please bring them back full time.

  • @steveb9525

    @steveb9525

    20 күн бұрын

    I used to work at The Gaylord hotel and convention center. My coworker said “I wish this place would burn to the ground.” Lol

  • @JesusCristo-pp5xf
    @JesusCristo-pp5xfАй бұрын

    Pro carpenter tip. The front table of your saw is a square. Line it up with your lumber and plunge cut. No square needed. Very fast, especially with the guard pinned back, but only for pros. Seriously. Also one side of your table is 1 1/2” the other side is 3 1/2” so you can rip lumber without snapping.

  • @ericarachel55
    @ericarachel55Ай бұрын

    Porter Cable used to make a smaller saw called the "saw boss" it has a left side blade configuration, it is my favorite saw, all saws should be made like this, and I used a speed square often for cuts, you are 100% correct

  • @mw6886
    @mw6886Ай бұрын

    When I first got my Milwaukee, I was so confused. Still hate it to this day.

  • @D2O2

    @D2O2

    Ай бұрын

    Makita sidewinder has the blade on the correct side.

  • @365JohnDoe

    @365JohnDoe

    Ай бұрын

    Same haha! now I need to sell and get their right hand saw

  • @StrungOutOutdoors
    @StrungOutOutdoorsАй бұрын

    East coast men cut straight without a square😉

  • @RealLifeProduct

    @RealLifeProduct

    Ай бұрын

    Exactly. When I was a framer we just free hand it. Sometimes use finger as guide for long, short width rip cuts.

  • @paladin252

    @paladin252

    Ай бұрын

    Because us east coasters ARE straight!

  • @LordHumungus-eg2dw

    @LordHumungus-eg2dw

    Ай бұрын

    Been a carpenter all my life and I get a laugh every time I see someone use a square like that. If you can’t follow a line maybe try harder

  • @IdahoEagle77
    @IdahoEagle77Ай бұрын

    100% right. That saw motor is a horrible design. It’s not just the motor… having to bend so far over to see the saw blade on the other side is ridiculous.

  • @prideland1210
    @prideland1210Ай бұрын

    You just got the wrong one. Should have got the left-blade version.

  • @mikewilcox8866
    @mikewilcox8866Ай бұрын

    I don't use cordless saws and probably never will. And i don't use a square to make cuts. Draw the line,use your eyes, make the cut. Has been working fine here in South Carolina for all of my working life. Just saying.

  • @scottverge938

    @scottverge938

    Ай бұрын

    Dude you really should try a cordless saw, they're fantastic.

  • @user-iu9uj1yz2f

    @user-iu9uj1yz2f

    Ай бұрын

    Fantastic is a little much. Their more convenient at the cost of power usually.

  • @mobius972

    @mobius972

    Ай бұрын

    Too complex for a west coast man

  • @scottverge938

    @scottverge938

    Ай бұрын

    @@user-iu9uj1yz2f I can't say I've ever needed more power. Does it slow down a bit in some difficult cuts sometimes. Sure but it's more than worth the trade off for not dragging that awful cord around anymore. I don't even own a corded circular saw anymore.

  • @EthanYork82
    @EthanYork82Ай бұрын

    Hey Cody I am not telling you not what to do but I am left handed and I use a right handed saw I just flip the speed square to the other side and can cut it all the way through. Just a thought

  • @neighborhoodprepped7862

    @neighborhoodprepped7862

    Ай бұрын

    I was thinking same thing? But not sure that will work either? But was my 1st thought

  • @The-Next-Topic

    @The-Next-Topic

    Ай бұрын

    That's how I do it. Plus if your speed square is large enough it gives the shoe more of a fence to make a straight cut.

  • @iron3624

    @iron3624

    Ай бұрын

    @@neighborhoodprepped7862 it does work lol by the time the blade makes it to but to the speed square the piece is generally cut

  • @DILLSN0OB
    @DILLSN0OBАй бұрын

    here i was thinking the revolution was underway. Nope just a saw rant. Love you wranglerstar.

  • @MrJohnyBoy00
    @MrJohnyBoy00Ай бұрын

    I do not know about others but I have always had the blade where I am able to see it and not on my blind side. I was taught in construction to cut a 2x4 held up by my right foot, as I am right handed. You are right, always have the blade so that you see it while cutting and not on your blind side. Those saws are great for left handed users but not safe for right handed workers. Continue the great work and GOD Bless You and Yours

  • @benjamintodd3323
    @benjamintodd3323Ай бұрын

    The next complaint is about a left-handed whistle. it blows lol.

  • @tommychong1173

    @tommychong1173

    Ай бұрын

    It blows dogs for quarters

  • @WalnutAlley
    @WalnutAlleyАй бұрын

    I’m pretty sure Milwaukee makes a rear handle left cut saw. You bought the wrong one.

  • @1docg
    @1docgАй бұрын

    Today's tech makes it very easy to make a "right handed AND a left handed" saw. Given a choice almost everyone will pick a saw where they can see the blade while cutting. The speed square issue is also a silly design flaw.

  • @strongjambbyprospeed9499
    @strongjambbyprospeed9499Ай бұрын

    Most of the pros used worm drive saws with the blade on the left. But they are no longer worm drive saws, it's just a configuration to mimic those saws. But I also have to say that the pro framers who have been around for awhile don't rely on speed squares to get a straight cut. They either follow a pencil line or just judge it with their pool eye after they've been framing for awhile. So just take it down a notch and go with whatever works for you. Anyway, all the home owners and weekend warriors are cool with those saws!

  • @leviguimond
    @leviguimondАй бұрын

    Cody, I use a speed square with an "east coast" saw. I put the square against the top edge of the board and the saw makes the cut before the motor hits it. I pull on the square and push on the saw. It works great. At this point I'd rather cut with my makita circular saw and a speed square than a chop saw. Especially cutting framing lumber and 1x boards.

  • @gearheadted5110

    @gearheadted5110

    Ай бұрын

    Nice technique. I have a couple of Makita saws, both are right-handed and silky smooth.

  • @Veritas84Aequitas
    @Veritas84AequitasАй бұрын

    Northeast Canadian here... You're right, but also sounds like you could use a coconut soy latte from Starbucks to keep that toupee in optimal positioning fella 👌

  • @lupastuff

    @lupastuff

    Ай бұрын

    And another short belly shirt . 😂

  • @Veritas84Aequitas

    @Veritas84Aequitas

    Ай бұрын

    @@lupastuff 😂

  • @ARF.Racing
    @ARF.RacingАй бұрын

    I own this same exact saw, and its great for me as I am left handed. They do make their circular saws both in right and left handed versions, as well and a rear handled worm drive saw too.

  • @crankymac1484
    @crankymac1484Ай бұрын

    As a right handed framer/carpenter I absolutely agree and find clearance an issue. A worm drive saw is far superior in many ways. The only thing I think you’re missing is that Milwaukee (fuel) makes that exact sidewinder saw for both right and left hand. You can buy it with the blade on either side.

  • @thomasgarrison3949
    @thomasgarrison3949Ай бұрын

    From a USMC & US Army Veteran 1974-88, Disabled American Veteran in 1988. I'm legally blind in my right eye, but I still use the right handed circular saws, If Milwaukee had had made the saw to go over a Speed Square, I might be interested.

  • @markofexcellence5209
    @markofexcellence5209Ай бұрын

    Makes sense to me. Amazing problems to have though, we live in the best time in human history

  • @Jarmann369

    @Jarmann369

    Ай бұрын

    Okay…

  • @ds29912

    @ds29912

    Ай бұрын

    We really do.

  • @Owen2108

    @Owen2108

    Ай бұрын

    True, running from a cougar, lions or wolves are all probably much worse than the clearance on a circular saw. I of course, still agree with Wrangerstar that the 'pro' line shouldnt have such glaring deficiencies.

  • @austrianpainterhidingfromt5920

    @austrianpainterhidingfromt5920

    Ай бұрын

    I don't know, they're trying to cut your son's PeePee off... not great times.

  • @byronn.2885

    @byronn.2885

    Ай бұрын

    Also the most expensive time ever…

  • @smev4341
    @smev434128 күн бұрын

    You are absolutely right. I used this on site, and as you say you don’t want to be messing about and wasteing time playing about with tools. The other lads on site agreed, so we buried the saw in the concrete footings on site. That was the end of that.

  • @freedom-fg3ph
    @freedom-fg3ph28 күн бұрын

    East Coast man here. Your point is fair however, this is a 2 handed saw, that's why there is a knob on the front. Of all people, you (as a West Coast man) should appreciate a good knob grip. Scribe your lines and then make your cuts.

  • @kyleallen6653
    @kyleallen6653Ай бұрын

    "I'm a competent carpenter" - I only had lay the same tongue and groove flooring 3 times!

  • @Marcel41021

    @Marcel41021

    Ай бұрын

    He overestimates his ability.

  • @needaman66

    @needaman66

    Ай бұрын

    😂😂😅

  • @outfitr9703

    @outfitr9703

    Ай бұрын

    He can do some stuff but he's not a carpenter!

  • @larrymashburn7789

    @larrymashburn7789

    Ай бұрын

    I have never seen a competent carpenter use a speed square to make cuts. Most use Larry Hauns method and just square the front to the board.

  • @fsmoura

    @fsmoura

    Ай бұрын

    Ohhh, buuuuurn! Mr W will have to go without the toupee for a week to repair the singe! ( oДo)🔥

  • @disco4535
    @disco4535Ай бұрын

    "Just have to cut with your left hand!" The cope is incredible

  • @johngreydanus2033

    @johngreydanus2033

    Ай бұрын

    So funny if it is actually a left-hand saw!

  • @johndoe-so2ef

    @johndoe-so2ef

    Ай бұрын

    Fanboys are going to be fanboys.

  • @Arlatube

    @Arlatube

    Ай бұрын

    So all corded circular saws aka sidewinders(non worm drive)were always for left handed people?...wow. That is really what you believe?

  • @vim_usr2753
    @vim_usr275321 күн бұрын

    As a Southpaw, I love the Milwaukee. For right handed folks you’re absolutely right.

  • @BacktotheBasics101
    @BacktotheBasics101Ай бұрын

    My father has been a carpenter all of his life and uses what we call the Carpenter saw, which is the Milwaukee version in the video. But I grew up using a framing saw, which is the yellow saw in the video. I agree with you, I don’t understand how anybody could use the carpenter saw. The framing saw is so much nicer. The motor throws the energy into the force of your arm and wood or whatever you’re cutting and you can see everything so much better without having to Lean over what you’re doing. I suppose everyone has a preference, but me Framers saw is way better.

  • @watchchannel8201
    @watchchannel8201Ай бұрын

    I LOVE the east coast impression!!!!! You are rare! Keep the rants coming brother! You sounded like my dad arguing his point to a younger me.

  • @s1urry381
    @s1urry381Ай бұрын

    So it's a left-hand saw. Cool, I'm a lefty.

  • @idontknowwhatimdoing2208
    @idontknowwhatimdoing2208Ай бұрын

    Hey Cody! Ive run into this with my Dewalt, i overcome the issue by flipping the speed square lip to the opposite edge of the lumber, by the time you hit the lip, your done with the cut🤙🏽

  • @terracrafted1231
    @terracrafted1231Ай бұрын

    Peach, brother!! I have had that saw for 6 years and have called down the cleansing fire of God on that saw EVERY SINGLE TIME the motor HITS THE FLIPPING SQUARE.

  • @miker9043
    @miker9043Ай бұрын

    Im a Pro carpenter for 40 years , framing i mark lines with square then put the square in my bag and make the cut . I will only use the square trick on trim and siding thats up to an inch thick with the saw depth adjusted up .

  • @pr0llicious

    @pr0llicious

    Ай бұрын

    Apples and monkeys

  • @aaronmilburn4962
    @aaronmilburn4962Ай бұрын

    Milwaukee makes a correct version now with the blade on the left it’s a fuel version and it works great! Thanks for the videos.

  • @uncledaddy4447
    @uncledaddy4447Ай бұрын

    It’s a Left Hand Saw. The worm Drive saw you have is a Right Hand Saw. It’s that simple. As far as the speed square not clearing, well that is an issue for the Milwaukee.

  • @D2O2
    @D2O2Ай бұрын

    As a lefty myself, I learned to use dads worm drive skil saw right handed. I started framing houses when I was 14 and the first crew I worked on the owner supplied side winders and I hated them for the fact you can't easily see the blade when using your right hand. Bought my own worm drive skill after the first week. Now when it comes to speed squares, I only used them to make the line, then I put it away and cut the line. Takes too much time to line up the square and the saw blah blah blah. Make a line and learn to cut it. We don't use squares to cut plywood. It is rough framing, not finish carpentry. After a while, you don't need a line drawn square, just a mark and you can cut a 2x4 very square by eye. Production is about efficiency, extra motions and tools is not efficient. Study Larry Haun.....

  • @777tjohn
    @777tjohnАй бұрын

    You bought a left handed saw for leftys, should have bought a right handed saw if you cut with your right hand. The square wouldnt have a problem if it was on the side of the blade.

  • @4pingpro
    @4pingproАй бұрын

    No excuses for that but Milwaukee does make a “worm drive” version as well. 🤷‍♂️

  • @foubert45

    @foubert45

    Ай бұрын

    Even my non wormdrive Dewalt clears the square.

  • @4pingpro

    @4pingpro

    Ай бұрын

    @@foubert45 like I said no excuses for this one not clearing just saying they have other options for the “right hand issue”

  • @ThePattersonify
    @ThePattersonifyАй бұрын

    As a left hander I salute the Milwaukee design. Also I love a good rant from a man of conviction. For me this video is a win win.

  • @robertthomas5906
    @robertthomas5906Ай бұрын

    It's what you're used to. I never had a speed square until recently. I'd simply mark the 4x4 with the square and pencil. Then cut. Flip it over and mark it, cut. Two cuts. Cut a few dozen and you're good at it. As long as the saw blade is sharp.

  • @Clayman5577
    @Clayman5577Ай бұрын

    Every great tradesman is ambidextrous, with power tools ,hand tools , and his own balance at heights . It’s a blessing .

  • @RamusHelstein

    @RamusHelstein

    Ай бұрын

    Every great contractor knows to buy the right tool and charge the homeowner for it.

  • @DavidWilliams-jt1im
    @DavidWilliams-jt1imАй бұрын

    East coast men have encountered this same obstacle, but like my dear friend, Ron Swanson, we manned our way through it without all the whining!

  • @michaelakers7257
    @michaelakers7257Ай бұрын

    Being 15 year experienced residential carpenter now a pencil pusher / keyboard warrior sitting in a office from the east coast LOL. I rarely used a speed square to maintain square cuts but relied on the putting my eyes on the saw blade itself as it is cutting either by looking over the top of the saw or through the narrow opening most brands have on the motor side of the saw. A speed square dose serve as a great straight edge if needed. Both standard skill saw and the worm drive saw have their pro's and cons pending the application, operator is left or right handed, or most importantly, personal preference.

  • @bigjoe8922
    @bigjoe8922Ай бұрын

    71/4 skilsaw the reigning world champion of circular saws for rough Carpentry framing ..

  • @BillyMcCord
    @BillyMcCordАй бұрын

    There are a bunch of saws with this issue they drive me nuts !

  • @pyroassassin7795
    @pyroassassin7795Ай бұрын

    Love the honesty its relly refreshing to see someone really say whats on there mind

  • @Walkonwater333
    @Walkonwater333Ай бұрын

    I’ve lived in Maui for 30 years. I lived in Bend, Oregon for 10 years and I lived in Florida for the last four years and I’ll tell you what people are stupid everywhere. Great video and I agree Godspeed brother.

  • @kylegaidos7688
    @kylegaidos7688Ай бұрын

    You bought what ive heard people call a "sidewinder".. (blade on the "wrong" side) Circular saw, not worm drive. Though they so have them in "right" and "left" handed models. You can hold the square the other way.. that is to say, with the fat part toward the front of the board. Another option is to be a big boy and ditch the square.

  • @DavidHain-TX
    @DavidHain-TXАй бұрын

    You are correct. This saw is designed for light home use.

  • @thormidthagahast8914
    @thormidthagahast8914Ай бұрын

    Its for guys who have already chopped of their right hand. They can run the the speed square on the end of their stump. A prosthetic speed square attachment.

  • @fulltism
    @fulltismАй бұрын

    I love that the east coast man accent is a stereotypical west coast man accent 😅

  • @wranglerstar

    @wranglerstar

    Ай бұрын

    It's called inversion, it's I trick I learned from the adversary,

  • @backfromthedead553

    @backfromthedead553

    Ай бұрын

    For the "up coming struggle"?​@@wranglerstar

  • @elihutson4553

    @elihutson4553

    Ай бұрын

    @@wranglerstar please look on their website the have a right handed model

  • @garrettmandujano2996

    @garrettmandujano2996

    Ай бұрын

    @@wranglerstarclassic

  • @rarobertsun1770

    @rarobertsun1770

    Ай бұрын

    I feel like a whining new jersey accent would have been fitting

  • @inspired4more
    @inspired4moreАй бұрын

    This is pretty common with circular saws. Not just a Milwaukee thing. That there is a "left handed" saw. Worm drives are typically designed with the motor on the right, which with circular saws is usually called a "left handed saw." Worm drive saws are designed that way because for a reason, and that's part of the main reason they are so common in construction; it's easier to see the blade and material without the drive in the way. This isn't west-coast/east-coast silliness. It's just the way saws are designed, and I agree that it makes little sense. I've always used "left hand" circular saws for this reason, because the motor is on the right side where I can actually view the saw blade and material I'm cutting. Milwaukee makes both. You would need a "blade left" version of the saw, and that will match what you are used to with the worm drive. But worm drive saws are better, in my opinion, so I'd stick with that one. One other pro-ho tip: When using a saw like that, turn the square around so the lip is at the top, not the bottom. You'll be through the piece before it touches the lip. No need to change the depth.

  • @Markus314159
    @Markus314159Ай бұрын

    When i was a Kid working for my uncle he said that the right side saws were for doing plywood work, so that you didn't get 8 feet of sawdust blown toward yourself. And that the left side saws were for cutting lumber with speed squares.

  • @leederdavid4782
    @leederdavid4782Ай бұрын

    TWO furious rants in one day? I love it! Unfortunately, most non-worm drive saws do not clear a speed square. Frustrating for all of us.

  • @speedywalden
    @speedywaldenАй бұрын

    Last one.... lmfao. FLIP THE SQUARE

  • @user-ki9rx9pp9w

    @user-ki9rx9pp9w

    Ай бұрын

    Yup by the time you hit it flipped you’ve already gone through with the deepest part of the blade.

  • @mrsullivan1709
    @mrsullivan1709Ай бұрын

    East coast carpenter here. I will never use a conventional saw again. All I use is a Skilsaw worm drive. A man’s saw. I never use a square as a guide. I simply scribe my lines and cut.

  • @MrAlexH1991
    @MrAlexH199119 күн бұрын

    Being a guy who’s right-handed, I also NEVER understood how engineers thought it was a good idea to put the blade on the backhand side of the motor… how the hell am I supposed to see what I’m doing like that?

  • @carlzirk
    @carlzirkАй бұрын

    That motor sitting low has messed up my straight cut. Not ok - and dangerous trying to push through. East coast man only cuts 1 x material, so they weren't aware of the problem.

  • @fruitfarmfords8243

    @fruitfarmfords8243

    Ай бұрын

    Hey I cut 2in sometimes. 😂

  • @bigjaz8768
    @bigjaz8768Ай бұрын

    Youre on a rampage today dude😂😂😂

  • @thurumansmith3101
    @thurumansmith310118 күн бұрын

    Thanks. Tbh, as a left-hander, I prefer the milwaukee design. That said, the vast majority of the labor force is wrong handed. I realize not being left-handed is a disability.

  • @appalachiangunman9589
    @appalachiangunman9589Ай бұрын

    I have the same DeWalt worm drive saw, I’ve only had it maybe about one year but it’s been really good so far. As a right-handed man I appreciate the blade being on the left side as I have always preferred to watch the blade itself to stay on the line as opposed to using the little notch.

  • @bradleymorgan8223
    @bradleymorgan8223Ай бұрын

    here's how the US forest service accidentally buys a left-handed saw

  • @camojim5402
    @camojim5402Ай бұрын

    Just get the milwaukee worm drive problem solved. I have the regular dewalt circular saw, and it's configured the same way as your milwaukee. I hated it, so I bought the worm drive. God bless you are correct about the speed square nonsense

  • @moroteseoinage
    @moroteseoinageАй бұрын

    Old man yells at cloud, threatens government employees. News at 11.

  • @joebruesch4109
    @joebruesch4109Ай бұрын

    Milwaukee 2830-20 Circular Saw Rear Handle 7-1/4" They have that same style saw so you can cut with your right and use the speed square with your left

  • @christiansteele7386
    @christiansteele7386Ай бұрын

    As an East coast man, that red object is not a saw

  • @BattleChemist
    @BattleChemistАй бұрын

    That tool was designed BY and FOR *Sinister* East Coast men.... 🙄😉

  • @mvblitzyo
    @mvblitzyoАй бұрын

    Sir Wrangler , my name is Joe, I do not comment on every video BUT , this along with many other videos, caused an eye bro raise ! For the simple fact, that so many NEGATIVE comments of sad uneducated humans. Think they have all the answers .. As for me and my household, we are VERY greatful for the fact of EDUCATION on many levels, thanks to you ( no father growing for myself ) I made its this far ..around 2010, I stumbled across an interesting man with the true value of life as GOD in my opinion wanted us to live . so many years later, you are offering a FREE PROPER education to all of us, who love and enjoy what a man should value on our beautiful planet we call home .. I strive thanks to you to be a gentlemen and live a life full of learning plus knowing good tools and how to use them ..

  • @FA-tq9ip
    @FA-tq9ip16 күн бұрын

    The benefit from having the blade on the right side is that the bottom plate has more material to rest on when cutting (rather than hanging off the edge like with your DeWalt)

  • @manny2ndamendment246
    @manny2ndamendment246Ай бұрын

    the thin blue line crosses the line every day and we still put up with it because "back the blue"

  • @KeepItSimpleSemperFi
    @KeepItSimpleSemperFiАй бұрын

    100% right!

  • @andrewbainter7697
    @andrewbainter7697Ай бұрын

    I use the same saw at work every day and I completely agree, it's my only problem with the saw. Milwaukee does make a M18 fuel worm drive but I have no experience with one but I'd assume it corrects this problem.

  • @welshwoodco
    @welshwoodcoАй бұрын

    Being from the UK we've never really had the worm drive style, which is probably reason I've always put my speed square at the back of the cut with it facing towards me. But, if a tool doesn't work for you, it doesn't work for you. I don't understand why everybody needs to try and convince you it should. It doesn't, there's a tool that does work for you, so use that one get your jobs done and onto the next job

  • @Mitch2974
    @Mitch297418 күн бұрын

    I have worked in the trades all my life, my Grandfather, Father , Uncle and Brother Where contractors. Growing up and until recently all circular saws where like the Milwaukee having the Blade on the right side. We never used speed squares to make straight cuts we just made straight cuts. This is not to say your wrong but its just all we knew.

  • @thefix2573
    @thefix2573Ай бұрын

    I'm a finish carpenter and I've always wondered why circular saws were left handed, but a Skill Saw can be either. Like they can't flip the motor? Or make a CCW motor? I clamp and cut a lot with my circular saw and the wide side of the saw base can't pass the 3/4 inch straight edge board. I always have to use the skinny side of the deck plate against the straight edge and if you're only cutting an inch off it runs the risk of tipping and overcutting or wavy cutting the finished veneer panel. If Ryobi makes one the others will follow.

  • @Kipperbob
    @KipperbobАй бұрын

    I've been a carpenter since before electric tools were a thing, I see what you're saying, it's just that I've never been in America, I'm sorry but American KZread is the only place I've ever seen people put a square against the side of their saw. I draw a line and cut at the line looking down over the front of the blade, I've never seen your type of saw, you seem to have your own way of doing things in America, if it works for you it works for you 👍, who am I to argue, either saw beats cutting everything with handsaws. I use whatever tools I have at hand, it's the man behind the tool that decides the quality of the work.

  • @jamsky1558
    @jamsky1558Ай бұрын

    Yeah Production time is money. This applies to software engineering also. We have a saying: (roughly translated to eng.) speed of writing code is more important than speed of the software (in development phase) Engineers trap themselves in overcomplication of processes, tools layers. 99% of the end user/customers don't care what's under the hood, how elegantly it was worked on.

  • @johngult6994
    @johngult6994Ай бұрын

    This Westcoast Man is Ambidextrous. Left, right, up, down, forward, back, inside, outside, 5 by 5 we do it all.

  • @TonyBologna240
    @TonyBologna240Ай бұрын

    You said it all at 2:52. If you’re buying a “professional-grade” tool, you should not have to compromise.

  • @StormyWeather93
    @StormyWeather93Ай бұрын

    So this entire rant is based off of personal preference. I'm left handed, framed professionally for 3 years and used saws left and right handed. Also I never needed my speed square for cutting 4x4. I used my square to mark and figure pitch, shouldn't need a guide for framing. But either way welcome to life as a left handed person, adapt and overcome when the world isn't catering to you. Remember as well, the tool doesn't make the carpenter.

  • @jamesdewart1772
    @jamesdewart1772Ай бұрын

    A good worker never blames his tools!!! I’ll give you $20