England's Radical Reformation

England’s Reformation was supposed to bind the nation into a single ‘Church of England’. In fact the country was shattered into a kaleidoscope of religious variety. Amid the confusion, a few English people embraced radical possibilities: mystics turned religion into an allegory, separatists created democratic, self-governing communes, utopians explored ideas ranging from pacifism to full-blown revolution.
This lecture traces how this radical edge of the English Reformation helped shape some of the most apparently secular aspects of the modern world.
A lecture by Alec Ryrie
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  • @MrTefli
    @MrTefli2 жыл бұрын

    Alec Ryrie consistently has the highest level of information and ability to make convey his topics in an interesting and vivid manner, of every lecturer I have ever heard.

  • @juanfervalencia

    @juanfervalencia

    2 жыл бұрын

    absolutely true

  • @gamerhegel7780

    @gamerhegel7780

    2 жыл бұрын

    Check out Isaiah Berlin, he's so great

  • @Tom_Tom_Klondike
    @Tom_Tom_Klondike2 жыл бұрын

    I can't believe how lucky I am to have found this amazing lecture series. Thank you so much!

  • @robotniqueee
    @robotniqueee2 жыл бұрын

    As an American who grew up without religion I still find myself transfixed by Professor Ryrie. Such an amazing speaker.

  • @nomadpurple6154

    @nomadpurple6154

    2 жыл бұрын

    I would love to hear him talk about the descent of the CofE in England. I'm sure it would be an interesting well researched view and relevant as the 2021 census will likely be the first to show self-identified Christians ceasing to be the majority .

  • @isaactomangrief9158
    @isaactomangrief91582 жыл бұрын

    He makes us wait months and then uploads it in the middle of a workday! Have pity on us, Alec!

  • @juanfervalencia

    @juanfervalencia

    2 жыл бұрын

    hahahaha, true

  • @isaactomangrief9158

    @isaactomangrief9158

    2 жыл бұрын

    I think waiting all day to watch a lecture about fringe protestant movements shows my years of being a nerd are certainly coming to a middle

  • @armchair_contrarian
    @armchair_contrarian2 жыл бұрын

    very interesting lecture, looking forward to listening to more of your work.

  • @Steamforger
    @Steamforger2 жыл бұрын

    Brilliant as always. Thank you, Alec!

  • @turdferguson3400
    @turdferguson34002 жыл бұрын

    Please add this to the alec ryrie playlist!

  • @blitzempestcontrol1759
    @blitzempestcontrol17598 ай бұрын

    Extraordinary source of interest. Subtle but clear exposure of the graphic failure of past and current "christian " religions to stay true to the roots. Most greatly appreciated

  • @Mrch33ky
    @Mrch33ky2 жыл бұрын

    Excellent Series! Belongs in the Pantheon of Great Lectures!

  • @catherinemarygrandjean5572
    @catherinemarygrandjean5572 Жыл бұрын

    Brilliant, and great story teller,,something musical in the reading. At first the voice captivated me..a lot like Richard Armitage. I looked into selections on Audible but discovered Dr Ryrie is not the narrator..so..no sale. Wishing him success and gratitude,,very pleasant and exciting,

  • @pastorchrisstewart6141
    @pastorchrisstewart6141 Жыл бұрын

    a great lecture series, I really enjoy Alec Ryrie as much as I enjoyed Dr. James White's Church History lectures!

  • @Mewzyque
    @Mewzyque2 жыл бұрын

    @GreshamCollege can you add this video to the Alec Ryrie series watchlist?

  • @danremenyi1179
    @danremenyi11792 жыл бұрын

    Excellent Alec ............................ Thank you.

  • @lenwilkinson672
    @lenwilkinson672 Жыл бұрын

    A brilliant lecturer.enjoyable as are all his talks.

  • @alexanderwinberg642
    @alexanderwinberg6422 жыл бұрын

    Always fascinating to listen to 😊

  • @2sudonim
    @2sudonim2 жыл бұрын

    Henry VIII was doing the Brexit shuffle centuries before Brexit!

  • @peterdollins3610
    @peterdollins36102 жыл бұрын

    We only have scraps of the Putney debates so there is no way of knowing.

  • @chrislambert9435
    @chrislambert9435 Жыл бұрын

    See Minute 50.25 This is a major mistake, by the Lecturer. What made the formation of The Church of England, was King Henry and His disputes with Rome

  • @kingcrazymani4133
    @kingcrazymani41332 жыл бұрын

    Someone within my group of forensic psycho-social historiographers should find whatever descriptions we have of the Ancient “War system” (12 tribes +1) and if possible try to map whatever the pledges were of the various Protestant sects to the ancient system. In that system, religion was viewed as being a business. The Roman Catholics had pledges and sub pledges (parish level pledges). All odd stuff. Maybe it is time to start surfacing some of that. I can already hear the screaming of heresy, especially from atheists…. Unitarians were so far as I know, the only sect that had multiple pledges. Explaining a number of reasons why many New Englanders became Unitarians. Thanks for the lecture. As always, enlightening.

  • @chrislambert9435

    @chrislambert9435

    Жыл бұрын

    Many New Englanders became Unitarians because Unitarianism is a simply theology for simpletons, they were simpletons

  • @kingcrazymani4133

    @kingcrazymani4133

    Жыл бұрын

    @@chrislambert9435 John Adams, a US Founding Father, and once ambassador to Britain and later the 2nd US President, his wife and son John Quincy Adams are all entombed in the Unitarian Church about 4 blocks from both my boyhood home and my current home. They might take issue with this point if we were able to awaken them so that they might speak. They might not take issue. Although there were zombie-equivalents walking around Quincy in the late 18th Century, there are more today whenever I walk around. And most of them are not Unitarians. My point here was about pledges. Once really important during the 1783-1788 period. For reasons still currently undiscussable.

  • @chrislambert9435

    @chrislambert9435

    Жыл бұрын

    @@kingcrazymani4133 Was it Unitarian when they were alive ?

  • @learkingofalbion8520

    @learkingofalbion8520

    Жыл бұрын

    @@chrislambert9435 Yeah, so far as I know when I last looked 5 years ago. You would probably believe that I was under the delusion that the Adams family were Anglicans. The Anglican Church is much newer and a bit closer to where I am now. I don’t know where the church met in the 18th Century. The oldest church in Boston is Kings Chapel, near Beacon Hill. Kings Chapel is Unitarian now. I think it was formed as Unitarian in 1630s or thereabouts, judging from dates in the cemetery. Not long after Winthrop brought the Puritans here. I suppose I could look it up, but as Professor Ryrie probably knows, many things in New England were changed around to hide things. A process that continues to this day.

  • @chrislambert9435

    @chrislambert9435

    Жыл бұрын

    Lear, Iam from old England, infact Norwich

  • @eleonoraformatoneeszczepan8807
    @eleonoraformatoneeszczepan88072 жыл бұрын

    Communication, or lack thereof, interference with ... seems like ... sigh ... Would this pass, as tragic? A reply, to the, 'surprise inside': ... a leap ... yes ... I love you ... know ... tea ... to be ... two archetypal ... courageous ... equally attracted ... intellectual and loyal bodies ... worth the same weight in salt ... equal in mass ... folk in and folk with pen ... interconnected ... in trinity ... with an enduring magnaminity ... dancing with spirit ... to the same rhythm ... to a tune that is current ... in unity ... a leap ... Odysseus: the man, best suited to cope, with a crisis. Penelope: the woman, struggling, in a crisis. My dear Odysseus ... 'toot sweet' ... help, normellie, please ... Love always ... your Penelope. 💝

  • @eleonoraformatoneeszczepan8807

    @eleonoraformatoneeszczepan8807

    2 жыл бұрын

    Coincidence, yet, when "we will attend the property on Tuesday the 22/2/2022 ... to take possession." and no finances to move, physical systemic medical conditions, haven't seen school age daughter since 2018, no trustworthy solicitor, in Australia? Help, please ...

  • @lewis123417
    @lewis1234172 жыл бұрын

    I think we all know who the modern day Puritans are

  • @michaeltowslee4111

    @michaeltowslee4111

    2 жыл бұрын

    please define who these people are.

  • @chrislambert9435
    @chrislambert9435 Жыл бұрын

    This is a most unsympathetic presentation of the Lollards . . . Chris ... Norwich, England ... from The Old Meeting House

  • @grantbartley483
    @grantbartley4832 жыл бұрын

    This sort of history shows what a mistake it is for Christians to hold to the doctrine that 'the righteous shall live by theology'. Christ saves, not the finer details of doctrinal exactitude.

  • @chrislambert9435

    @chrislambert9435

    Жыл бұрын

    If the Theology brings them "enlightenment" then this enlightenment ushers them into the assurance of Redemption

  • @grantbartley483

    @grantbartley483

    Жыл бұрын

    @@chrislambert9435 Yes. But then it is like the ladder to Christ. We do not worship the ladder.

  • @chrislambert9435

    @chrislambert9435

    Жыл бұрын

    @@grantbartley483 Christ is the Eternal Word John1:1

  • @grantbartley483

    @grantbartley483

    Жыл бұрын

    @@chrislambert9435 So.....?

  • @patrickholt2270
    @patrickholt22702 жыл бұрын

    I'm somewhat disappointed by the lack of Bible referencing for the radical reformers' political innovations, particularly pacifism and communism, or at least a goal of wholesale redistribution of wealth from landlords to peasants and so forth. The absence thereof lends itself to religious relativism, that pretends that all religions have the same core ideals and that there is nothing special about the Bible in terms of the origins of socialism, which is a debt that Engels specifically recognised. The issue of moral and spiritual purity, or just real, convinced faith and having a universal church so as to attempt a Christian society is very real. As far as I can make out, the position of Calvinists and pre-denominationalists is that if they can establish the beacon of light in their own conduct, then that should in due course attract everyone else, much like the New Jerusalem idea in both Old and New testaments. Of course, perfection of conduct eludes most believers too, although individual saintlyness helps convert many, although that's hardly confined to Protestantism. However, people are subject to pressures on their conduct from the structures of society and the processes of economic activity. Greed cannot be avoided while being forced to maximise profits as a business owner or shareholder, for instance. The greed is built into the structure and the means of income, regardless of any conscious moral intentions of everyone involved. So the goal of a fully Christianized society requires both the moral reform of individuals on the Congregationalist model, and the reform of the economy and the laws of the secular state to eliminate, as far as possible, those structural causes of sin, and those laws written by the wicked for the purposes of wickedness (the accumulation of private wealth and the perpetuation of relative poverty). I feel that neither Catholics nor Congregationalists are more to blame for the failure of Christendom to deliver, and for the purists to deliver Christendom.

  • @TazPessle

    @TazPessle

    2 жыл бұрын

    It's a lecture not a sermon

  • @patrickholt2270

    @patrickholt2270

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@TazPessle There is no difference except the range of reference. Since the subject is church history, scripture is an essential reference in the thinkers' thinking and the movements' motives.

  • @chrislambert9435

    @chrislambert9435

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes Patrick, This is a most unsympathetic presentation of the Lollards . . . Chris ... Norwich, England ... from The Old Meeting House

  • @chrislambert9435

    @chrislambert9435

    Жыл бұрын

    Patrick, this is our brief presntation of our History History, The Old Meeting House built 1693 in Norwich In Western Europe From around the 6th Century unto the 16th Century, there was primarily only “one Church” and this Church was headed up in Rome, it was know as the Roman Catholic Church, Catholic meaning a/ universal & worldwide b/ Including everything positive & Christian c/ Past, the present and eternity. This Church was/is headed up by the Popes & Cardinals, in a Pyramid system of Governorship. They taught that there should be and must be only one church in & throughout the world and that this Church should be headed up in Rome, by the Pope. Therefore, during these Centuries the Church was managed and controlled by Rome Rome owned the church property & land, and controlled the clergy in all of England In England In the 16th Century, no small dispute arose, between the King of England, Henry the VIII, and the Popes of Rome. This dispute was mainly focussed on Henry’s Marriages. He wanted the Pope of Rome, to annul his marriage(s) but the Pope was not altogether willing. As a result mainly of this dispute, Henry Kicked out Roman Catholic rule and control of the church in England, He took control of the churches, land and Clergy. Henry made himself the Head of the Church of England. So, the churches in England, became known as “The church of England” ! it was no longer the church of Rome, but it became the church of England under King Henry VIII. This became what was later called the Reformation, so under Henry the church was reformed. It was reformed to become a national church, in contrast to a Catholic & Global church headed up in Rome. The boundary of the newly reformed church became the boundary of the Nation state, hence church “of England”. From then onwards, the church of England was owned and controlled by the King and His Ministers. This was the Nationalisation of the Church During this time, in England, the Bible was translated into English, it was printed and fully released in the English language, making it accessible to all English speaking readers During the following Century after Henry’s so-called Reformation As time proceeded, many Bible believing Christians and Christian church leaders in England. Began to increasingly see from reading the New Testament, that the Church should be Independent & Self Governing. They came to steadfastly realise that the church in/of England should not be something owned and controlled by the Monarch and the Monarch’s Government, rather the church should be Independent and self-Governing, and that the bible taught that there should be local assemblies/churches, that are Independent & Self-Governing. This type of Christian & Christian church leader, was sometimes called; a/ Separatist b/ Non-Conformist c/ Dissenters. One of the most distinct early non-conformists was a man called Robert Browne bn 1550s died 1633, he was the Master at the Great Hospital in Norwich and is famous for stating in His book entitled “without tarrying for any” that the church should appoint its own leaders. These non-conformist Christians tried many times to meet together, have their own-independent assembly church life, independent from Government control. They were often severely persecuted, and like Robert Browne, John Robinson and hundreds of others, they often fled England to live in todays Holland (later the American Colonies) where they could freely have their own church-life. After a long and varied struggle, Later with the Act of Toleration in 1688, a deal was struck and the English Monarchy William & Mary permitted, the building of “houses for worship” for non-conformists use

  • @chrislambert9435

    @chrislambert9435

    Жыл бұрын

    Patrick, The lack of Bible referencing in the early part of this Lecture could not be more "gappingly obvious" on the subject of why many did not believe in the administration of Peado-Baptism, plenty of New Testament references were/are available, such as Acts 2:38 Peter Said to them; "repent and each one of you be Baptized" many Lollards could say "how can babies Repent" ? This is a simple quote from the NT to support the way that some Lollards saw it ! see also Acts 8:12 "Baptized both men & women" never any example of babies getting Baptized ! The example of Baptisms are set up for us the read & follow in the NT

  • @juanfervalencia
    @juanfervalencia2 жыл бұрын

    I will say the same, brilliant as always @steamforger