ENGL Fireball 100 vs SE Founders Edition!

Thanks for watching my comparison of the ENGL Fireball 100 vs Special Edition Founders Edition! Let me know your thoughts in the comments below! Cheers!
My review of the ENGL SE FE: • What Makes This Amp SO...
Gear used in this video:
- ESP LTD Phoenix Arctic Metal
- ESP LTD Phoenix Deluxe 1000
- Gibson Les Paul Custom
- ENGL Special Edition Founders Edition Tube Amp
- ENGL Fireball 100 Tube Amp
- ML Drums by ML Sound Lab
- Cubase 13 Pro
- OwnHammer Impulse Responses
- RedSeven Amplification Amp Central reactive load
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An original song of mine with me on vocals: • My First Song w/Vocals...
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  • @SonicDriveStudio
    @SonicDriveStudioАй бұрын

    Thoughts guys? Comparisons with the SE, Savage and Powerball II coming to the channel in the near future also! Stay tuned!

  • @juliandelrio

    @juliandelrio

    Ай бұрын

    Powerball II Is my main amp and i love It! I tried the SE First version...it's Amazing too 😅

  • @SonicDriveStudio

    @SonicDriveStudio

    Ай бұрын

    The Powerball rocks!

  • @guitargogden

    @guitargogden

    Ай бұрын

    @@SonicDriveStudio Don't forget about the Amp Room ENGL Savage Mark II Suite plug-in!

  • @metalvisionsongcontest7055

    @metalvisionsongcontest7055

    28 күн бұрын

    Yes, the comparison to the Powerball II would be useful to me, as well. So far, you’ve always used the Fireball 100 as a reference.

  • @CrustyBollox
    @CrustyBolloxАй бұрын

    They both sound amazing, but for me the Fireball is much more raw and aggressive sounding.

  • @davidcastonguay2927
    @davidcastonguay2927Ай бұрын

    Hey Jon, another good comparison video with nice riffing! Maybe my ears are playing tricks on me, but the differences seems to be quite subtle. Personally, I love simple amps even tough the trend in the amp market is focused toward complex designs. The Fireball 100 is the winner for both price and tone according to me. You did an awesome jobs, keep up the good work!

  • @benbrandt3
    @benbrandt3Ай бұрын

    100w is soooo much power. I adore my Ironball SE; literally has everything I'd ever need in a single head and LOUD AF. ENGL is one of those brands that were never much on my radar but I'm 100% a believer now - both sound freaking amazing.

  • @geraldrauch1701
    @geraldrauch1701Ай бұрын

    hey jon, great video as always!!! i've had a fireball 100 for about 6 months now...absolutely love it...play a stereo rig and pair it with either my mesa mark IV or my badlander 50W (w the legendary tones mr. scary mod installed)...pure tonal bliss with lots of sound options...cheers brother!!!

  • @DC-lp5je
    @DC-lp5jeАй бұрын

    Being the newest top of the engl line, the se is awesome. I pair a fireball and a smolenski stereo and the tone is crushing.

  • @FreidaAmplification
    @FreidaAmplificationАй бұрын

    I bought a FB 100 back in March, and your videos had a lot to do with my decision! Great tones and demos as always sir! I decided to buy the XXL Engl cab as well. Still trying to gel with the engl cab, but it needs some breaking in.

  • @MetalheadOv666

    @MetalheadOv666

    Ай бұрын

    If it’s v30 loaded they swapping 1-2 speakers out for creamback 75s or Redbacks depending if it’s a 212 or 412. I’d definitely go either way Redbacks and promise you’ll LOVE it wayyyy more!

  • @danomnihility2453
    @danomnihility2453Ай бұрын

    Been waiting for this comparison- excellent job and right on point! The only thing i think to maybe state is how much low end the Fireball 100 has. I have that and a 570 preamp- which sounds pretty close to the SE FE. Would be cool to hear those two shoot it out. I think in a live setting at show levels the SE can fine tune to the room a bit better, the clarity is phenomenal. I hope Engl endorses you since you do so much killer work!

  • @eggsamich
    @eggsamichАй бұрын

    Hmmm how about the fireball vs the invective?! Great video. I was ready the whole time to hear you say you preferred the 100. Edit: jk found your comparison video! Thanks

  • @BikFlofer
    @BikFloferАй бұрын

    I honestly did not expect the SEFE to sound that much better. It sounds so much more defined and refined on all the channels.

  • @HighImpaktAudio
    @HighImpaktAudioАй бұрын

    Great video as always my friend! I agree that the SE sounds more refined. Having more in those mids really helps it sound massive. And the Fireball is definitely more raw and harrier sounding. Which I get that same sound out of my fireball 25. Sometimes I like that raw tone though depending on what I'm playing. I don't know if I can choose between them though haha 😅

  • @manos6426
    @manos6426Ай бұрын

    Engls are beasts!!!!!!! Excellent tones as always Jon. I suppose these 2 (Fireball & SE) would sound great also together Left/Right in the mix.... What was the tuning of the last bit?

  • @dnast01
    @dnast01Ай бұрын

    Ive had few amps and currently own the EVH5150 6L6, Marshall JVM410 and Engl FB 100 and I just love the Engl its my go to most of the time. Very versatile and has the best clean tone to use a pedal platform if needed too.

  • @b121977937
    @b121977937Ай бұрын

    Awesome RIFF !!!

  • @rzproject123
    @rzproject123Ай бұрын

    Great! Next time we look forward to a comparison with ENGL Savage...

  • @SonicDriveStudio

    @SonicDriveStudio

    Ай бұрын

    It's coming!

  • @kelvindam3306
    @kelvindam330624 күн бұрын

    So hoping for some highgain captures of these in a comming QC pack :)

  • @honeybadger1810
    @honeybadger1810Ай бұрын

    Man, turn on the mid boost on the fireball and kick the presence/ mid knob up a bit and you'll be just about there. For costing twice as much, the SE only sounds a little better.

  • @shredward666
    @shredward666Ай бұрын

    ENGL is the GOAT 🐐

  • @SonicDriveStudio

    @SonicDriveStudio

    Ай бұрын

    Mmmmmeeeeehhhhhh! (Goat noises, not the meh as in "not great" because we all know how great ENGL Amps are!)

  • @bradhill935
    @bradhill935Ай бұрын

    awesum as alwayz...now for the biggie...all your Engl amps togther in one big shootout!

  • @cizmar1972
    @cizmar1972Ай бұрын

    I have the Fireball 100 and the high gain tone sounds so good. I play deathmetal and it sounds brutal, especially with the "bottom" button engaged. I put a 10 band EQ in the FX loop to refine it some. I would love to get the SE Founders Edition someday.

  • @BaritoneGoatStudio
    @BaritoneGoatStudioАй бұрын

    I think the Gibson through the FB 100 was my favorite tone in the video. Lead 2 on the FE does seem to be highlight off that amp. I also really dig the Deftones like riffs in the second high gain mix!

  • @LucasLeCompteMusic
    @LucasLeCompteMusicАй бұрын

    I liked the Engl the best

  • @hakarl_
    @hakarl_Ай бұрын

    It's gotta be the original Powerball for me. They have the Engl sound I originally fell in love with. Savage Mk2 also seems interesting, would love to test it

  • @DeanBaco
    @DeanBacoАй бұрын

    The Fireball 100 is an awesome firebreather! I had one here for a while and, from memory, the FB100 is the rawer amp of the 2, which I really like. I wouldn't make a choice based on sound in this case, both are awesome sounding amps, but these are 2 very different worlds. If you're trying the SE you probably want the plethora of options/sounds available so at that point the FB100 is not an option, I guess. But, cool comparison for sure, cheap(er) doesn't equal cheaper sounding :)

  • @torstenbangert4026
    @torstenbangert4026Ай бұрын

    The SE sounds phenomenal

  • @DerSilvano
    @DerSilvanoАй бұрын

    2:26 This sounds phenomenal

  • @kosmajahn2877
    @kosmajahn2877Ай бұрын

    Nice comparision! Btw have you tried Engl Artist Edition? I have one and think it’s much better than Fireball

  • @SonicDriveStudio

    @SonicDriveStudio

    Ай бұрын

    I have not, I really love the FB though

  • @redsilverjack
    @redsilverjackАй бұрын

    Prefer the sound of the founders better than the fireball. As you know I have a fireball and I find it almost there I believe this summer will do some mods on it but for know I use a paraeq on the fxloop and it works just amazing. Gr8 video .

  • @KreativeDevices
    @KreativeDevicesАй бұрын

    🔥

  • @BloodyMikeCore
    @BloodyMikeCoreАй бұрын

    Both amps sound great!!! I did like the SE FE better tho! I'm also impress the way you pronounced "Creme de la creme"! ahah Being french canadienne, that was a near perfect Quebecois pronounciation! xD Love your content! keep it up!

  • @SonicDriveStudio

    @SonicDriveStudio

    Ай бұрын

    Merci! J'adore French! They tought us French in school but I'm not great at it, I just like it a lot! :)

  • @BloodyMikeCore

    @BloodyMikeCore

    Ай бұрын

    @@SonicDriveStudio Don't know about any other things, and is french from France would agree, but that sounded great! Love your good work! Don't be scared to practice! ^^ as long as you like doing it!

  • @hellsing1983
    @hellsing1983Ай бұрын

    Both has the charastic Engl sound, which I love. I do prefer the SE, because of the clarity and how it sits in the mix. But when you wanna go real dirty, then the Fireball is the right pick.

  • @pbosche
    @pboscheАй бұрын

    The Fireball is such a king against Friedman, 5150, Mesa, and others. It makes sense that the only one to dethrone the Engl…is an Engl.

  • @lozovoymax1941
    @lozovoymax1941Ай бұрын

    yep, SE FE sounds more refined in a good way. Like.... new/better iteration of Fireball? It's always hard to me dive in treble/presence balance on fireball for clarity without hi-freq hiss. Looks like you don't have to do that on SE FE. But... Fireball 100 still great amp. It simple, has character and affordable.

  • @robertdonosobuchner3129
    @robertdonosobuchner3129Ай бұрын

    In this comparison the Fireball 100 needs only a bit support of a good pedal. Both amps sounding really great. 🤘

  • @Leychen
    @LeychenАй бұрын

    Fireball is a great amp for reasonable money offering all the "standard functions", and it's more versatile than many people expect. Here in Austria on the local used market there's sometimes Fireballs for like 500-600€ in great condition, best deal for someone who wants a big quality tube amp. The Special Edition ist just insane with all the features it has to offer, maybe even too much for many people but i want to swap my Invader Mk1 for a Special Edition when i can afford it... but in many cases the Fireball's features are actually enough already.

  • @EdwardKayeplus

    @EdwardKayeplus

    Ай бұрын

    Damn. I wish I could find one that cheap in Canada.

  • @Leychen

    @Leychen

    Ай бұрын

    @@EdwardKayeplus The thing is, Engl are located at the German/Austrian border so for me it's basically a local product without import or shipping increasing the price, and if it needs repair i can bring it to the Engl factory myself they'll know how to fix it. So i grew up with old Engls and i have practical reasons to use them but i'm actually not sure if i would play Engl as a Canadian. You certainly have other brands which are rare and expensive in the EU but more reasonable over there, like Revv or Mesa Boogies from the US

  • @EdwardKayeplus

    @EdwardKayeplus

    Ай бұрын

    @@Leychen Oh wow, I was tired and read that as Australia, not Austria. That makes more sense. I can see how they would be a lot cheaper in Austria. Yeah, they are a lot more expensive here. I did manage to buy a Powerball earlier in the year for about 900 Euros with the foot switch, though. I was looking at a locally listed Savage II, but the seller wants $2100 Euros, which is a bit up there for a used amp. Hmm. I had a Revv Generator 120 III for a while, which I bought brand new, but it was still 3200 EUR directly from the factory. I really thought I was going to love that amp, but it turned out to be one of the most dull and lifeless amps I've every used.

  • @solarfallmori
    @solarfallmoriАй бұрын

    The SE sounds huge, tho I like the Fireball but with the mid boost on, for me is a game changer and I can get the sound that I like easily :)

  • @josephbutler148
    @josephbutler148Ай бұрын

    Having owned both at the same time, in the room the se is so much more crushing yet also more clear. The inferno, original invader and Morse amps hold up better to the special edition for me and the engl retro is also a killer under rated amp for metal \m/

  • @ivsiguitarist
    @ivsiguitaristАй бұрын

    Very similar voicing but the Founders has a ton more sculpting capability for those that want to go down that rabbit-hole. I'd be totally fine with the Fireball!

  • @justsomerandomguyman
    @justsomerandomguymanАй бұрын

    Some people were saying they prefer their 25w Fireball over the 100w, ironically enough.

  • @enuxs
    @enuxsАй бұрын

    Different guitar cabinets or IRs have a huge effect compared to these differences. I would say the Fireball sounds really great, but if you want more of everything and have the money, you can absolutely go for the SE FE.

  • @ianlahaye9476
    @ianlahaye9476Ай бұрын

    SEFE: Great if you want ONE amp that covers the gamut with razor sharp control and compatibility. FB: an amp that can most likely sound thr exact same as above with a little different EQ tweaks and if you dont mind running a pedal in front to aid in that. Truly the best bang for your buck metal amp in the game. Either way, you ENGL, you win.

  • @gitarspan
    @gitarspanАй бұрын

    Fireball for me. But both great of course.

  • @thanos4480
    @thanos4480Ай бұрын

    Leeesss go!! I bought Fireball couple weeks ago.

  • @SonicDriveStudio

    @SonicDriveStudio

    Ай бұрын

    Awesome amp!

  • @spaceexpireaudio666
    @spaceexpireaudio666Ай бұрын

    I`m so broke Fireball is still a huge budget to me😄 though back in a day it didn`t feel that expensive due to better currency SE looks and sounds like flagship for sure!

  • @marvinrtr
    @marvinrtrАй бұрын

    compare all of your ENGL amps :D

  • @SonicDriveStudio

    @SonicDriveStudio

    Ай бұрын

    I have 2 more videos with my ENGLs coming in the near future! Stay tuned!

  • @gab.lab.martins
    @gab.lab.martinsАй бұрын

    Clean: SE sounds fuller, FB sounds slightly thin. Maybe an eq thing, not sure, but there's a definite difference. Rhythm 1: FB sounds more raw, SE sounds more polished. Definitely from gain structure/compression, cannot be "fixed" with eq. Rhythm 2: FB is scoopy-doopy-doo, even with the mids over noon. Again, SE sounds "less aggressive", more "rounded". Conclusion: SE wins on clean, no question. But for rhythm tones, it's a matter of preference more than one being better than the other. I've always been a Marshall guy, and one of the reasons is because I love how raw, beastly, and uncontrolled their high gain tones are. So I actually preferred the FB in the 2nd sample, but for some reason - I'm guessing pickups - it sounded too scooped on the 3rd one. My hypothesis is that the SE will sound like the SE regardless of what you plug into it, while the FB will let the natural sound of the guitar through more. A JB on the bridge will likely be a lot meatier and midrangy than a Dimebucker on the Fireball, but - and this is based on this video alone - they'll likely sound much closer to each one another on the Special Edition.

  • @Bret_Sanor
    @Bret_SanorАй бұрын

    They both sound good. The SE doesn't sound $2700 better but I think you're paying more for all the features than anything else.

  • @horkyncz
    @horkynczАй бұрын

    SE a little bit fuller and cleaner, fireball more aggressive, both amps get great sound. SE my choice.

  • @Melitzaneitor
    @MelitzaneitorАй бұрын

    fireball is a m'f beast, i used to own one fireball 100, i was poor at the time and had to sell it, i bought it for 500 euro used, now im looking to buy it again and they come at least 200 or 300 more used :'(

  • @numbersabcdefg
    @numbersabcdefgАй бұрын

    Ah, yes, but what face plate grill do you like more? I'm going Se-Fe grill all day

  • @JohnWiku
    @JohnWikuАй бұрын

    Great video! Both amps sound amazing! The E635 FB100 at 1.25k is a steal, the E670FE at 3.5k is a cash grab.

  • @SonicDriveStudio

    @SonicDriveStudio

    Ай бұрын

    I think that amps like the SE FE are worth every penny though. You get so many features. It's a premium product!

  • @ordohereticus3427

    @ordohereticus3427

    Ай бұрын

    The difference in features doesn’t come close to justifying the difference in price, especially for the really high gain stuff, where they’re more or less the same with some minor differences that can be mitigated with different speakers or EQ. I slightly preferred the undiluted grind of the Fireball in that department.

  • @JohnWiku

    @JohnWiku

    Ай бұрын

    The features of the SE do not warrant an almost 3x price increase compared to the FB100. For that matter, even though the SE is overpriced, is still more feature packed than say an SLO100, which also do not warrant the price tag of 4.5k considering the lack of anything really. For almost the same type of features, makes the Savage 120 feel like a great price point, anything more expensive that this and it's a clear cash grab, especially with less features.

  • @YsAbTones
    @YsAbTones16 күн бұрын

    Powerball 1 owns them both imo

  • @spoonerluv
    @spoonerluvАй бұрын

    In comparison, the Fireball 100 seemed to lack low end and low mids, but I'm guessing if you flipped through some IR's, you could address that.

  • @ordohereticus3427

    @ordohereticus3427

    Ай бұрын

    Literally the opposite in my listening experience. Strange.

  • @spoonerluv

    @spoonerluv

    Ай бұрын

    @@ordohereticus3427 Maybe I've got inverted ears. I'll ask my doctor to take a look

  • @Margilio5150
    @Margilio5150Ай бұрын

    I can’t afford either but here I am 😅

  • @spoonerluv
    @spoonerluvАй бұрын

    I feel like the old ENGL simulations before people were using AI to capture them really gave me the wrong impression of what these amps sound like. They went from being something I'd never consider using, to something I hope to own someday.

  • @colelewis9940

    @colelewis9940

    Ай бұрын

    How old? To me an Axe Fx ultra ENGL model still sounds better than all these capture devices. I am imagining like a Line 6 Vetta or something.

  • @rubenalonsoviguerassalazar1539
    @rubenalonsoviguerassalazar1539Ай бұрын

    fireball 100 need a litle bit of mids

  • @jjdubois6101
    @jjdubois6101Ай бұрын

    Fireball sounded better

  • @AnimeAsLeaders998
    @AnimeAsLeaders998Ай бұрын

    I thought Engl is pronounced like "Angel"

  • @MetalheadOv666

    @MetalheadOv666

    Ай бұрын

    Like “angle” A 90 degree angle 📐

  • @musicman700
    @musicman700Ай бұрын

    SE Founders Edition sounded better in all of the examples ;)

  • @evur_tweak
    @evur_tweak21 күн бұрын

    SE looks better in the mix. The guitarist should not get into the bassist's territory

  • @svenjeschke5025
    @svenjeschke5025Ай бұрын

    Is there even a bad sounding ENGL?

  • @SonicDriveStudio

    @SonicDriveStudio

    Ай бұрын

    Not that I know of ;)

  • @misterringer
    @misterringerАй бұрын

    Barely a difference at all. Dialed in they are really close. Obviously the big monster is more versatile, but from a pure tone perspective I don't see a point in the big boy.

  • @boblong101

    @boblong101

    Ай бұрын

    Smoother and thicker