Engines of New York Central - Hudson
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Well, its been just a bit over 3 years since I announced this video series and its finally happening! Sorry for the stupidly long wait, for some reason I just never got around to making this. Anyway, you're already familiar with the format of Engines of Amtrak so things won't be too different here. This time around though, I'll be discussing the history of some of the New York Central's more unique motive power. In this first episode, I'll be talking about the railroad's iconic and flagship engine class, the J Class Hudson. These locomotives were built to replace the aging Pacific type engines on passenger trains as the loads were becoming much too heavy. A Pacific could handle 12 heavyweight passenger cars at most and with increasing passenger numbers and company interest in speed, a new locomotive type was needed. This resulted in the first 4-6-4 built in the US. So how did the New York Central Hudsons get their name and how did they perform? You can now find out in this inaugural episode of Engines of New York Central!
Music Used:
Cuphead - Inkwell Isle One
Historical Library/De Wolfe - Hollywood Dreamer
Historical Library/De Wolfe - Sweet Nights
Historical Library/De Wolfe - Rhythm In A Row
Historical Library/De Wolfe - Our Love
Historical Library/De Wolfe - Double Shuffle
Historical Library/De Wolfe - Airspace
Historical Library/De Wolfe - Great Western Railway
Cuphead - Dramatic Fananatic
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Heya, sorry this video took 3 damn years to come out, I just never got around to making it and it kept getting put aside for other videos I had in mind lol. Anyway, I hope you enjoyed this first episode and please let me know what you think. I know the format is essentially identical to Engines of Amtrak but still, I appreciate any feedback I can get if just in case I can improve something. More commentary videos hopefully coming soon as well. I haven't had the energy or motivation to make big videos like this recently due to college projects, but I'm gonna try my best to keep commentary videos coming. I'm also gonna try to stick to my plan of 1 "Engines Of" video per 1-2 months so for example, next month in October or November, I'll do the remake episode for Engines of Amtrak Metroliner. Then after the Metroliner remake, I'll do the Engines of New York Central Mohawk episode, and repeat the pattern for the Engines of Amtrak remakes that remain and new Engines of New York Central episodes. But of course with college in the way, this schedule might not always work out. Thanks for your patience in the time it took this video to be made, very sorry once again, but thanks for watching!
@nathancorcoran5347
2 жыл бұрын
Also my Aunt does have a Lionel model of the New York Central Commodore Vanderbilt locomotive.
@That_Thicc_Cat
2 жыл бұрын
You’re good, don’t worry just try not to do it again lol
@zyancuerdo7392
2 жыл бұрын
Maybe you could do the NYC motors that takes express to a specific waypoint on the railroad like the ones that on park Avenue I believe
@Pensyfan19
2 жыл бұрын
You know what they say, better late than never. Fantastic video nonetheless!
@NateTh_Great
2 жыл бұрын
The wait was worth it
I've been looking forward to this for a while! Excellent video!
@scottishtrainsandbuses2744
2 жыл бұрын
Hey coaster!
@A_Lazy_dude
2 жыл бұрын
Same!
@danielferrovias
2 жыл бұрын
Love your videos coaster
@Railfan-hq4yj
2 жыл бұрын
Hello CoasterFan
@theaustinleeytchanneltalytc
2 жыл бұрын
Yoo!!!! You're here!
What a horrific shame. Rail history is so frustrating, because so often, it ends with "There were none preserved". It drives me crazy! Lovely episode, though. Very informative, a great introduction piece for both the series and the locomotive.
This needs to be one of the steam engines that get built in the same vain as the A1 Peppercorn in England or the T1 here in the US.
@Leatherface123.
2 жыл бұрын
Indeed With the sculon disk drivers
@James-Railyard
2 жыл бұрын
@@Leatherface123. and the centipede tenders and maybe a removable streamlined jacket but that would be a later decision.
@genesisrailfan1507
2 жыл бұрын
Hopefully the new Hudson get a new build without that ridiculous Niagara styled smokebox doors.
@DaimosZ
2 жыл бұрын
there have been a few attempts at building a new Hudson before but sadly nothing came of either one of them given one of those two projects was spearheaded by Penn Central of all companies, and the other done by a bunch of schmucks on Facebook who didn't have anything to show of their project other than lip services, I hate to say it but I think the Hudson's will never come back alas
@Ilikesteamtrains
11 ай бұрын
Better be Commodore Vanderbilt
*When the world needed it most, he delivered*
I completely agree with you about the Hudson being the epitome of a steam locomotive. I would love to see a video on the Niagara. That was a phenomenal locomotive. Thank you 😊
@saltbombcreations8336
2 жыл бұрын
Looks almost just like the Union Pacific FEF series. One of them being 844.
@T3ki1a_
2 жыл бұрын
An American steam locomotive*
@sitarnut
9 ай бұрын
YES! Niagara !
@ShinGhidorah17
5 ай бұрын
@@saltbombcreations8336 The NYC Niagaras look better than the UP FEFs, imo.
The 5429 style of locomotive is my literal favorite steam locomotive of all time. So good.
My absolute favorite locomotives and railroad! I've closely examined their history for years. The Hudsons were gorgeous yet extremely efficient. They were the epitome of aestheticly pleasing locomotive designs aswell as the epitome of locomotives with 6 drivers. It's a massive disgrace none survive today. Excellent video!
@melissamartin1926
2 жыл бұрын
My grandfather was on the 999
@chesapeakedproductions3009
2 жыл бұрын
NYC not preserving a Hudson: Disgraceful, disguising, and despicable
It’s a damn shame that all the Hudsons have been scrapped, since they were so popular. Should’ve saved one, or, someone could build one from scratch like the T1 Trust
@LegoMannnnn
5 ай бұрын
I know, I completely agree with you. Hey, at least we still have 611
@jamesholton2630
2 ай бұрын
Only a tender from one of the Hudsons was preserved. The tender was from the 5313 (formerly 502).
This is a certified long hood classic
this is amazing work! The Hudson's have a lot of history. Sometime hopefully a replica of a Hudson will be built in the future.
@blairterry9435
2 жыл бұрын
I agree.
@JohnGeorgeBauerBuis
2 жыл бұрын
It is worth noting that there are multiple Santa Fe 4-6-4s surviving, and at least one is being restored to operating condition.
@nathancorcoran5347
2 жыл бұрын
@@JohnGeorgeBauerBuis That is good news.
@nathancorcoran5347
2 жыл бұрын
There kinda is a replica. The Sonoma Traintown Railroad in Sonoma, California has a 15-Inch Gauge 4-6-4 “Hudson” that is almost based on the NYC Hudson. But numbered 5212, which no Hudson’s have a that number.
@Whoasked-bc5ui
10 ай бұрын
Fun fact: they were going to rebuild an NYC Hudson from the ground up but that plan was scrapped (pun not intended)
Thank you for an excellent video. I live in the UK and admire US steam locos. A great shame no Hudson was preserved. I appreciate that we cannot keep examples of every piece of railroad equipment, but it would be wonderful if one Hudson and one Niagara still existed. They, together with the N&W J class and Pennsy T1, were very much the pinnacle of steam locomotive design and efficiency. Perhaps a trust will be established to build one, as has happened in the cases of other extinct types. I'm looking forward to seeing the T1 that is currently being built.
AYOOO ITS HERE
@JoyceLund
2 жыл бұрын
Hi dead end productions
Great video on the iconic Hudson! I still learned a few new things from this! If a Hudson did survive into preservation, even a streamlined one, it would no doubt be a celebrity! I think it is very possible that a replica of a Hudson, streamlined or not, is possible. If a Pennsylvania T1 is being revived, then so can the Hudsons! Whose with me on this future?!
@moosecat
2 жыл бұрын
While I salute the efforts of the group making a new T1, I would have preferred seeing a Hudson. Although the T1s were definitely distinctive (internally and externally), they weren't really successful, as they gave the Pennsy fits trying to solve the troubles they had. Pretty much the entire run of 52 locomotives was withdrawn from service within a decade.
@regularguy7266
2 жыл бұрын
@@moosecat that's why the T1 Trust was made, because the PRR T1 wasn't really a proven design like the Hudsons. They already proved their worth, now we need to see what a T1 can do. Part of the reason why T1s weren't proven was because the crews back in the day were so used to aging K4 class Pacific's. The Trust is making the adjustments to operate the T1 at its best potential, such as a different Type B Rotary-Cam Poppet Valve Gear instead of a Type A, improving the springbed, the T1 being built as an oil burner, and training their crews how to operate a 300 PSI Duplex steam locomotive.
@samuelbenge524
Жыл бұрын
They should streamline NYC Mohawk #3001
@ivanthevaluable2559
Жыл бұрын
I'm all in.
@DovregubbenProductions-vn3vy
11 ай бұрын
I’m with you. Actually I want TWO replicas. One streamlined and one unstreamlined.
One of my favorite NYC locomotives are the little 2-4-4t D class engines. Their funny little designs make me happy and it's always fun seeing the US make use of tank engines.
This video is amazing most of the time I think of the streamlined Hudson locomotives and or unstreamlined Hudson locomotives
Missed fact: The j3s were given an added combustion chamber, a conical boiler for higher steam pressure and slightly smaller cylinders as improvements over previous classes
Oh man! The Streamlined J-3s Hudson was my favorite train when I was a kid after seeing then time and time again on I love Toy Trains. I still wish we still had at least 1 left.
@samuelbenge524
Жыл бұрын
The proper term is loco or engine. The train is the consist. That's literally putting the cart before the horse.
@samuelbenge524
Жыл бұрын
Funny thing is I'm a teen and I still am obsessed with railroadania
The Hudsons were great, and were iconic, beautiful, and great runners. Thank you very much for making such wonderful videos like these even while you are busy in University. This is a great new series I have been highly anticipating. Perhaps at some point you can make a "Engines of Pennsylvania Railroad" series, that would also be nice.
@ratdude747
2 жыл бұрын
...and which would allow him to cover one of my favorites, the PRR GG1. Four different owners over the years (PRR, PC, Conrail, Amtrack), and many more years of service than one would expect from a class of locomotive. Only retired because the frames were cracking to pieces.
@adityasanthanam1945
2 жыл бұрын
@@ratdude747 It is one of my favorites as well.
@nathancorcoran5347
2 жыл бұрын
They are amazing too.
I am a life-long New York Central fan and modeler and very much enjoyed this video on NYC Hudsons. Thanks for making it and posting it on KZread. I look forward to your Mohawk (and hopefully Niagara) episode. Carl
Yoooo the series everyone has been waiting for leesssss gooooooo!!
@雪者
2 жыл бұрын
Yee
Totally forgot this was going to be a thing, huh. Good video. Maybe you could talk about the history of the FEC? It’s a super obscure railroad that has remained under appreciated.
A new series. Nice! You’ve joined in the steam club! I say that because I’m also doing my own series of this kind for locomotives used by the Pere Marquette. I’ve so far done the Ten-Wheelers, Atlantics, Pacifics, Moguls, and Consolidations, and am about to do the Mikados next, then the Santa Fe’s, and finally the Berkshires this Christmas
I've always seen that class of locomotive mostly in I Love Toy Trains and they are such beautiful looking steam engines on the New York Central. I was sad to hear that all of them have been scrapped after many years of good working service. They still look beautiful with their art-deco streamlined casing or their first early appearances. When Connor was first introduced in Thomas the Tank Engine via King of the Railway, I was surprised to hear that he was based on that class of engine that I've watched in childhood and why else, it's a class of steam engine I remember from nostalgia, and I like him over Caitlin (mostly for that reason, nothing against Caitlin as she is still another great character. There's just something about Connor from what I can remember mostly from what I saw).
@andrewtheberkshireengine4385
2 жыл бұрын
Connor is based on NYC j3-A Dreyfuss Hudson Caitlin is based on B&O P-7
@ArnavKhode
2 жыл бұрын
@@andrewtheberkshireengine4385 I wish they could’ve had Connor acknowledge that he’s from America and that he came to the Mainland to avoid being scrapped, as all of his Hudson brothers vot either cut up or managed to survive. Besides, he should’ve spoke about what it truely meant to be a famous streamliner, rather than just do races with Caitlin.
@samuelbenge524
Жыл бұрын
My BF/cousin's name is Connor. He's awesome
Ive waited so long for my favorite Railway / Railroad to have its main engines talked about! Thanks!
Cool, looking forward to the Mohawk video, I think the L-3s and L-4s were the epitome of 4-8-2 designs
Finally! Father Jared has fed us the all new Engines of Amtrak New York Central!
It took only 3 years and an pandemic but the wait is officially over
Holy shit he actually did it
Thanks for doing this. I love the NYC Railway. Such a classic railroad. It's a pity it no longer exists.
@trainsupporter9088
2 жыл бұрын
My favorite railroad of all time! I grew up by the NYC - it was a class act for sure.
i do love the history side of things.. thanks for putting this together
Absolutely superb history of the iconic NYC Hudsons.... I'm an English rail fan but enjoyed that very much ... bring on the Niagaras ....
10:18 There’s also a train in The rugrats episode murmer on the ornery express that resembles a New York central Hudson
Awesome Video
Thank you AG!! I'm a huge fan of the 4-6-4 both NYC and ATSF a Hudson is a Hudson on any railroad. This is a great piece of work and one I'll watch over and over.
The Dryfuss Hudson is my FAVORITE American Steam Locomotive. If the Brits can make a NEW Peppercorn A1. We CAN make a NEW Dryfuss Hudson!
Even though you didn’t get the episode done until three years later, you did still get there in the end. That being said, I’d say that this was worth the wait.
I didnt know this was Amtrakguy, I thought it was just some other trainz user. Still this is really informative. I font understand why schools can't ever teach like this.
Hey! Awesome video, things look amazing! Great, great video
I can't believe they scrapped every single one of them. Such a beautiful locomotive.
@paulwarner5395
2 жыл бұрын
Yes. In those days no one thought about rail preservation. They only considered scrap value.
I got here as soon as I was notified! Now, this is quality!
been a long one coming, but the wait has been really worth it
Wonderfully done video. Even though as an American I'm more drawn to British designs, there really is something about a Hudson that really draws the eye. They truly do look like the epitome of American steam locomotive design. Especially in art deco design, they really do stand out and leave an ever lasting impression in your mind.
FINALLY AFTER 3 YEARS
Ironically if my Memory serves me correctly I remember A Hudson Locomotive or a type Similar to the Hudson Being used in an Fairly OddParents Episode "Not Sure which Episode" Being used in a typical cartoon fashion and being dropped on one of the other Characters like an Anvil at the End of the Episode. Just further Concretes the famous Icon in pop culture.
I wasn’t even alive for another 40 years after these trains were scrapped, but man, it is an absolute crime they didn’t keep one. The Dreyfus Hudson is by far IMO the best looking train to ever exist. What an absolute shame. At least the Union Pacific didn’t scrap all the big boys.
Conner used to work on the new York Central since he's a Hudson and Caitlin Must have worked on the Baltimore and Ohio once since she's a P-7A
The New York Central Hudsons were magnificent locomotives, both in appearance and performance. They were world famous, so much so that one of the engineers of these engines on the Twentieth Century Limited, Bob Butterfield had his own radio show. I think it's a heartbreaking shame that not one of these engines was preserved. I am building a live steam 3/4" scale model of 5344. So in a way they live on😁 Jack
The beginning of a new awesome series
It’s been a long time since I clicked on a video so quickly! So glad to see your incredible content style applied to yet another iconic railroad fleet! Hope school is going well for you, and thanks so much for the great videos!
If PRR fans are getting a T1 replica than us NYC fans deserve a J3A replica
@sergefeuze9249
Ай бұрын
First of all that t1 is a new build not a replica
@sergefeuze9249
Ай бұрын
Second of all I know who scraped the hudsons
This is really good. It was worth the three year wait.
This is a amazing episode I was waiting *3* years for this and now it’s out :D
HE DID IT!!
I love it that you included the Hudson in Courage the Cowardly Dog!
Awesome video, I love steam locomotives and their history
@CrossOfBayonne
Жыл бұрын
Same here
Well done. I wish that at least one was preserved in a museum.
Oh my god it’s happening
I enjoyed this history of the NYCentral locos -- they sure became icons of late steam in the US. History worth remembering.
Thank you for presenting this piece on the NY Central Hudson locomotives, streamliners included. These were classic engines, only to be scrapped as junk when diesels replaced steam locomotives. It's nice to know that previous generations knew such designs provided good rail service. But it would be nicer if people today were to see these locomotives as museum items or be used as excursion vehicles, similar to the Cuyahoga Valley Scenic Railroad in Ohio.
It's been three years since I first saw that and now it's finally here
Great video. Learned a lot from this . looking forward to the next edition.
I've been waiting for this for SO long and its finally here
I do know that the Sonoma Traintown Railroad has a 15-Inch Gauge 4-6-4 “Hudson” similar to the New York Central Hudsons. Only with the number 5212, which no New York Central steam locomotive has this number. It is a shame that none of the NYC Hudsons were preserved. But they are still remembered by the NYC history. The rest of Hudson No. 5313 could have been preserved at Steamtown National Historic Site.
@jamesholton2630
2 ай бұрын
You mean 5313’s tender?
Wow. I honestly can't believe it. This was fantastic! Finally got it! I loved it. Worth the wait!
Thank you Hudson’s are my favs of the New York central
Very nice
It's about time... Thank you for finally doing this.
I’d say the wait was worth every single minute as your content and editing quality has been getting more professional in these 2 or so years. Hell of a video!
@bluebellsfan8704
2 жыл бұрын
Agreed!
I really enjoyed this one. I only recently discovered your channel and have been binging the Engines of Amtrak series. I knew of the Hudson and more specifically the Dreyfuss Hudsons but didn't really know much about them. This was an excellent presentation. Looking forward to the upcoming Metroliner and Mohawk videos. -Shane
Thank you for putting some of my favorites in a video!
I love the NYC Hudsons! These are awesome locomotives.
@jamesholton2630
2 ай бұрын
Me too but none survive into preservation except for the tender from the 5313.
Its here! Great vid!
3 years in the making ? The result is a success !
After 300,000 years, it’s finally here.
Could it be? The series I've been waiting for?
We can thank Conner for being chad
This is wonderful I have been waiting
It was worth the wait to learn about the history like that good job keep it up and I'll keep on waiting for the next one Cody Stacey nicknamed big boy will keep on chugging away over and out all aboard
This was so nice to watch
It Was Worth the Wait!
I just purchased the hudsons on K&L’s website, what a surprise that this was posted 🤣 I’ve recently gotten into the NYC
Thanks dude I love the episode
I can't wait for the episode with the New York Central niagra class northerns.
IT'S HERE
WOW. Amazing video. Thank You for the time and efforts in making this information available for our viewing 👌 Excellent job and looking forward to seeing your next video.
YESSSSSS THANK YOU, YOU HAVE ANSWERED MY PRAYERS!!!
Excellent series, hanks for going to the effort to produce it. Looking forward to the Mikados!
This history helps a lot when contemplating a layout and equipment- thanks!
Cuphead and anime (Love Live Superstar) stuff, you made my day mate
Now THIS is quality content! Good Work! I love this video, Keep it up!
Very well done! I enjoyed it.
After 3 years, Engines of New York Central is finally here!
Great video since I’m a Michigan central fan and a New York central fan this was a great episode and to be honest it was worth the wait because it developed into this.
Thank you for sharing. Great video.
Literally bought the K&L Hudson yesterday, probably is the most stereotypical steam engine ever but I love it.
very interesting and can't wait for the next videos to come.
My love for the NYC Hudson’s came from the old I Love Toy Trains series and I love them even more now, thank you!
@WesternOhioInterurbanHistory
2 жыл бұрын
I actually own a Dreyfuss Hudson (Lionel 221 Pacific) that was used in the show.
@samuelbenge524
Жыл бұрын
@@WesternOhioInterurbanHistory Look out! You're going too fast! That was fun! Can we do it again?
@Jeremiah_Rivers76
5 ай бұрын
NYC 5452 and NYC 5428 are my two favorite Hudsons. The Commodore Vanderbilts, as far as I know, didn’t have numbers in _I Love Toy Trains._
Good old me memories of Railroad Tycoon. These are the longest, coolest locomotives.
Finally! About damn time!