I know im in the minority, but I really like Prometheus and Covenant. Yes there are plot holes. Yes there's a lot of questions. But they're both beautiful films and important to the over all story. Im so looking forward to Romulus. I have a feeling they're going to nail it. Fede seems to really appreciate the franchise and seems to be a true fan, so one would think he knows what the true fans want to see in a new Alien film, and i really hope he delivers. The trailer was absolutely perfect and looked like they're off to a good start. Will def be in theaters seeing this night 1. By far my most anticipated film of the year

@angeltzepesh1

23 күн бұрын

Prometheus was one of the best Alien movies, i would even put it above Aliens. Covenant was meh, some things made 0 sense and i put it in the same camp with Alien 3 and Resurrection. But if Romulus is a straight up reboot, it would be such a waste.

@louloubelle1330

23 күн бұрын

I love them too better than predator alrhough is good aliens n prometheus are excellent

@Aerie925

23 күн бұрын

I loved Prometheus and Covenant had in enjoyed Covenant. I felt like with covenant they were trying to placate to the studio and fans that don’t like the philosophical questions being asked so with covenant they tried not explore that the way that they should. But I’m all for the existential.

@kenten

23 күн бұрын

I thought both movies were a giant mess, but the parts I liked about them were the David / experiments / engineers stuff, and I really wanted to see where it was all going. So any threads that pick up on that will be welcomed by me.

@funghoul9124

23 күн бұрын

@@angeltzepesh1 i agree. prometheus is one of the best looking movies ever made also. the production level is crazy. i love that movie. i have it above aliens too. aliens is great but overrated like a motherfucker. i accept covenant as is because i know he compromised to get it made but i wish they let him finish what he was doing the way he wanted.

We need a film where they go to the Engineers true homeworld. Engineers in Alien Covenant are not our Engineers

@guty6663

23 күн бұрын

ong

@mikegraham4255

23 күн бұрын

Yes. The concept of the Engineers is a trillion times more interesting than David and his experiments. Covenant and this next bug hunt are soooo disappointing.

@kybone25

23 күн бұрын

​@@mikegraham4255Well said

@Ogkrptonite

23 күн бұрын

No never go there…it’s best left as a glimpse like the yautja homeworld. Somebody gonna fuk it up🎉

@jessewjames-ym1rc

23 күн бұрын

​@@mikegraham4255absolutely

To me it seems more and more that David is trying to recreate the Xenomorphs but he is NOT the original creator of them. Neither are the Engineers. They were also trying to recreate the Xenomorph or Deacon. But the origin of them is still more ancient than we realize

@lfyoung

17 күн бұрын

I’ve always believed that the xenomorph species is one of the first species in the universe and the alpha engineers found their home world and believed them to be a god. These xenomorphs were kind and benevolent but these alpha engineers figured out how to properly use the goo. It wasn’t black but gold and they created their own world and beliefs around these xenomorph’s and gold goo. They created the engineers from the prometheus and covenant movies but didn’t teach them how to use the gold goo. These alpha engineers left this universe and the beta engineers tried to copy their creators but created the black goo we know today in the newer movies. Just my take on this

@spacepope87

14 күн бұрын

Exactly. Even a deleted scene shows a picture of a Xenomorpg before David created one.

@xyoungdipsetx

14 күн бұрын

Love this comment.

@marcstubbs5865

3 күн бұрын

Ridley Scott said he was enough with the fan gymnastics

Given the quality and coherence of movies these days, the explanation for the blue mist could be as simple as ”we thought it looked cool in Alien so we put it in this movie as well, something for the fans to notice” without any consideration to if it makes sense inside the world of these movies.

@JM-zo5me

22 күн бұрын

That would be awful.

@angeltzepesh1

22 күн бұрын

@@Glocktologist just like in Covenant where they all took their helmets of without any kind of worry. Aren't the crew supposed to be scientists, are they really that dumb?

@RaikenXion

22 күн бұрын

I do agree one thing I've noticed in recent years is that Fans put way too much thought into these big, franchise movies than the actual Directors and their writing teams. I would like Fede to connect it up but Im simply not going to build my hopes up; I did that massively with Covenant and with quite a few other movies, especially starwars and been let down. Not again!

@aaronbreeds5132

21 күн бұрын

actually the explanation of the blue mist is that Scott originally had in mind to have something more complicated as a "protection" element and was not really doable, but the set had this blue light from a concert that either happened before or after the shooting and they found that it looked very interesting... so it was kind of a "sure thatll work" thing that ended up being very iconic

@aaronbreeds5132

21 күн бұрын

@@RaikenXion for sure we drastically overthink this stuff... if you've been involved in any kind of storytelling or script writing on this level you know that its hard enough just to make a film work, and the deeper backstory is not nearly as fleshed out in the minds of the writers or directors as we like to think

Prometheus is one of my favorite movies, but not as part of the whole xenomorph lore. I was really fascinated by the engineers--the idea of seeding our worlds and our search for a creator. I hope they continue to touch on that.

@J0MBi

19 күн бұрын

If it had been completely unconnected to Alien it probably would have been a much bigger success and would have avoided all the backlash from guys who just wanted to see cool marines with PULSE RIFLES making xenos explode

@lea-anne9133

18 күн бұрын

I was hoping the new filming the franchise was going to be the engineer origin story. Thats what we needed. Romulus looks like Alien with teenagers, it's basically just a cash cow.

@Metisp

16 күн бұрын

If only we would had gotten the 3rd part of the Prometheus trilogy: Awakening. Awakening was suppose to lead into the 1970s Alien.

@xyoungdipsetx

14 күн бұрын

I agree.

@themilosh895

12 күн бұрын

​@Metisp ive heard Ridley helped with this film to get green lit on Awakening with full funding.

Kroft is here! 👽

The ‘wolf’ on the door, is related to Romulus and Remus (the two children under the wolf in the very same image - that same image is a very famous historical image taken from the story of Romulus and Remus). Also if a theory only links the new movie to the Prometheus story arc via a deleted scene then surely - straight off the bat - the theory is moot, because quite simply a deleted scene cannot be considered canon ….because it was deleted from the final presentation. Therefore, it didn’t happen.

@nebulaneptune20

22 күн бұрын

I wonder if that means that there are characters that are supposed to represent "Romulus" and "Remus" (outside of the space station names)

@pbibbles

22 күн бұрын

I had to check if someone else had already said this. Thank you.

@christophmahler

22 күн бұрын

"a deleted scene cannot be considered canon ….because it was deleted from the final presentation." No. There is a 'theater version'/'radio edit' and then there is a 'director's cut' - and the references in question go back to at least Alien 3. WY DAVID is just a missing link that explains why the company is aware of the species in Alien 1 and concerned with protecting and refining _a bioweapon_ - whose destination appeared to have always been Earth where 'a culling could accelerate evolution' (as a theme of a 'predator-prey dichotomy', playing out in every movie plot - where a predator species literally rapes and 'impregnates' protagonists).

@Primatron

21 күн бұрын

This. I don't think Kroft is familiar with Romulus and Remus. And this new movie is trying to get away from the previous two films.

@Noddyunplugged

21 күн бұрын

@@nebulaneptune20 The station itself is said to be divided into two distinct halves with or areas and they each have a very different aesthetic and levels of technology, etc. Familiarise yourself with the biblical story of Romulus and Remus and that should help bring it together for you without me giving too much away about the station, etc.

Great video. But. I really don’t get the hate for Prometheus. I thought it was a magnificent work of art. And I love the idea of these engineers and how they seed planets for whatever reason. And I absolutely love the idea of man’s great achievement’David’ developing a God complex. I think it’s great. lol. Anyway love the channel bro.

@warborn_inc.

23 күн бұрын

I agree...I love Prometheus and Covenant. Are they flawless...No...but as blasphemous as it is...I can pick out flaws in Alien and Aliens as well. I think the David arc was great and I really wish we had gotten the third part of that trilogy. I'm still looking forward to Romulus but it's a shame we won't likely ever get a true ending to the David arc

@CharlyDavis5594

23 күн бұрын

I totally agree with both. Also, and regrettably, I don't think Romulus is going to have any connections with the previous two.

@baki2332

23 күн бұрын

@@warborn_inc. agreed 100%

@Dirt33breaks

23 күн бұрын

Same here its a masterpiece. But the public just want pointless lore -less horror. I yearn for our episode 3, our revenge if the sith , if you will

@CharlyDavis5594

23 күн бұрын

I must admit, as much as I long for the film that finally connects to the first movie, I'm loving all the prequels about engineers and the origins of life in the universe.

I dream one day of seeing an alien movie that covers in extreme detail the time between Dr. Shaw rescuing David and Dr. Shaw dying.

@itiswrittenministry4131

8 күн бұрын

A series would be nice

@wretchardkimball9049

2 күн бұрын

I just threw up in my mouth

The whole David Creator plotline really is one, if not the, biggest let down in Ridley Scott‘s career. It has robbed the Alien franchise of its biggest mystique. So sad.

@black_dragon274

18 күн бұрын

If Alien Covenant is a mess, it means that Alien Romulus is even more terrible.

@Dellaluna13

17 күн бұрын

I’ve preached about the need for the Alien films to maintain some mystery, but sadly too many fans want all the answers spoonfed to them.

@bonchbonch

16 күн бұрын

How so? The black goo IS the mystique. The xenomorph always had to be bioengineered because it doesn't make sense that it's so well adapted to targeting humans.

@spacepope87

14 күн бұрын

They were around before David. He just replicated the formula. What's so hard to understand about that?

@xyoungdipsetx

14 күн бұрын

@@spacepope87exactly

Prometheus was going in an interesting direction. Then they gave up on that and ruined the entire anthology retrospectively.

I don't really think David 'created' the Alien. To me, from the movies, it seems more like the Alien creates itself with whatever is around being a catalyst to be used. So more of what would be David moving the Alien along its natural path with refinement. Or something like that. For example, there was a mural in Prometheus that depicted a fully-formed Alien that looked not at all much different from the standard Alien we know and love.

Ridley NEEDS to relase Directors cut of Prometheous & Covenant. FOX kept pressing him after the home relase of Prometheous but he never got around to it.

@czeszko865

2 күн бұрын

i wish too, but i think it's to late :(

@spacepope87

Күн бұрын

@@czeszko865 I know.

It'd be so great if they add David or the engineer homeworld in the post credit scene

As soon as I finished watching this video I had opened my email and found my download for the Aliens Expanded documentary ❤ anticipating any videos you may post about it!

David is Dr. Frankenstein. Man creates it's own worst nightmares.

@J0MBi

19 күн бұрын

Frankenstein - The Modern Prometheus (1818). But it's really Peter Weyland who is closer to Frankenstein and David is his Monster.

From what your saying the Engineers already created the Xenomorphs and eventually abandoned them, David was just trying to recreate what they destroyed. I mean in hp Lovecraft the Shoggoths were the creations of the Elder Things so it’s not really that different in my opinion.

i believe it when i see it. They talked so much shit about these amazing Movies and Scotts revolutionary perspective, that i would be not suprised if the movie will be just a dumb stylized actionmovie that is working sorta well before they release the follow up. (re: force awakens) I loved all the ideas Scott had for his series but well, the suits dont like people dreaming big so they cut em short. I think it will be the case here as well. I would be suprised if they make any conections to Prometheus at all. But i would love to be wrong! And i like your creative optimism :)

@J0MBi

19 күн бұрын

Personally I don't think Scott would be attached as producer if it didn't connect up to all his 3 films.

@PaleVillian

18 күн бұрын

That looks more like a bear than a wolf on the door.

Great work as always! I always head to your channel first to get caught up on everything Alien. Appreciate the hard work and time. I know as a creator how much goes into each of these. So hats off!

Damn I hope you're right man. Ridley Scott supposedly said that Romulus was "bloody brilliant" and given that he always complained that other Alien movies didn't explore the space jockey and origins of alien, I take it as another hint that Prometheus and Covenant aren't completely retconned in this

I think the blue mist might have more chances of being a coincidence, but I'm intrigued to see more about it

David was going to Origae-6, not the Engineer home world, the Engineer home world as stands now in the story is Planet-4, it could be rectified later though

great job brother...now I can look forward to it without reservation.

Thank you for another awesome video Kroft!

Whatever David does isn't super unique and it definitely doesn't mean he's a "creator", he's like the people from Jurassic Park lol

Great work again my friend 🙌

Never click a video so fast!!! ✌️

Always enjoy these!

Kroft: "...on the other hand I might be overanalyzing these details" Well, we'll see, won't we?

I'm SO glad to know this connection!!!!! Thanks a lot for your excellent material!

They def. need to bring back the Engineers. I want to see Xenomorph (aliens) vs. Predators vs. Engineers, vs. humans.

2 Kroft videos in a week? Feels like Christmas 🎄 🎉

At the end of Alien: Covenant David isn't headed to the Engineer homeworld. He was headed on the ship's original course towards Oregai 6, a planet already colonized by humans and undergoing terraforming.... bringing death.

@icestationzebraassociates2460

2 күн бұрын

This is what I really wanted to see in the next film. This looks okay too, but I found David's story fascinating.

You have to checkout the "Alien Covenant Prologue" scene I did with legos, its on my short video list. Its amazing.

@patrickbateman4541

23 күн бұрын

All I see is slot machines

@NorthLVLowRoller

23 күн бұрын

@patrickbateman4541 gotta scroll down a bit, its the only lego one

@bartekino

23 күн бұрын

kzread.infoJf1P96dbNDQ this one

@leerhode1021

23 күн бұрын

@@NorthLVLowRoller. I couldn’t find it either. Has it been removed for some reason?

@NorthLVLowRoller

23 күн бұрын

@leerhode1021 there's a ai art I did with a Xenomorph playing a slot machine (stands out much more) the lego video is on the row above on the left.

We need a movie on who created the engineers .

@DontKnowDontCare-y2b

23 күн бұрын

We would only need a film explaining who created them as well, we need an explanation as to who created the universe

@k2you21

22 күн бұрын

Gladiator 2 .

this makes me so happy

Jeez guys it’s pretty obvious what Fede is doing. He gets his shot at an Alien movie and he’s not linking Romulus to Prometheus or Covenant by putting the gaps of the those 2 movies in this new one. But think about this, how long can these guys keeping making these movies and not exploring the SJ in the cockpit. My prediction is that at the very end of the movie we will see David or an Engineer. There is absolutely no way Fede could make another movie with Aliens chasing idiots on a ship. The next movie has to tie LV-426, the space jockey , and God himself , David.

@mrscanlan.5016

8 күн бұрын

YES I Want To SEE HOW THE Prequel films turn out, think the next film could be a great mixture of things in that next film to see where David8 lands and starts to carry on with his experiments, While the Joint company is on it's way to link up with David8, Weyland Yutani and also have a lot of Japanese people in it too with the company Yutani being Japanese, when they land with david8 ONLY the Owner's know what he is up too while the others just think it is a colonizing mission to back the Covenant ya know, then also half way through the film the VERY LAST Bio engineer's land on that Planet 4 the one David8 WIPED out of life, see what happened via hologram technology in that city's buildings with the same tech it has on their ships a, so in the last act we will see the engineer's on route to go kill David8 while The on coming Weyland & Yutani on the planet with David8 doing their dirty deeds in the back ground and we see a MIGHTY clash of small army's of the Bio Engineer's like ( 25 to 50) of them with like a few hundred of the company's/David8 new improved Alien's and the Weyland & Yutani's Company's bodyguard's solider's like 50 - 100 too all clashing , and at the end of the film nearly all die apart from one Bio suited engineer with a QUEEN Alien inside him, that David8 tricked that engineer to have him in before David8 gets destroyed with a smile on face, his last words be like , Good luck my Queen', or something like that !!!! think it would be a good mixture of story space travel from the new joint company's side of things revenge for the last bio engineer's and a great MINI WAR ACTION TO End the film !!!!!

The only way to truly connect Prometheus and Covenant to the other movies, is the fact that it has to be David in that seat, in the derelict. And that he birthed the Queen. Somehow. Remember, silicon based lifeforms....

@maximusmorphine2418

22 күн бұрын

David is much too small to be that being in the derelict...

@MAB-nj8wf

22 күн бұрын

@@maximusmorphine2418 True. It might seem fitting otherwise..

@davebear9825

21 күн бұрын

This Ultimately could have been the Conclusion. Ridley Scott had indicated that we was 2-3 more Movies away from ALIEN. He indicated that the Xenomorph has some evolving to do before we get to ALIEN. He said that the Xenomorph in ALIEN Covenant was more Organic and not Biomechanical like in ALIEN but we eventually will discover why the Xenomorph is Biomechanical. And we would eventually discover who the Space Jockey was. And so YES it could have been likely that David (in a Walter Model Body) could have been the Space Jockey and/or where the Biomechanical Xenomorph came to be.

@mrscanlan.5016

8 күн бұрын

OR After the next film that comes after Alien Covenant, that in the end of that film i say it is a engineer that crashes and lands very badly with a Queen egg hugger inside of him, and it burst's out ONLY to be a Queen, then the Queen laid those eggs in that Derelict ship, what we see in the fist Alien

@mrscanlan.5016

8 күн бұрын

@@davebear9825 YES, I Like to think it is one of those engineer's that has a bio suit molded into himself like the one we see in Alien prometheus film, and it had a face hugger inside him with out knowing , inside that bio engineer it has a Queen egg, so when it pops out and grows into the Queen and laid those eggs in the derelict ship we see in the first Alien film

The blue mist acts as a suspension field or dampener for the eggs to keep them from popping in transit

Great video! I think at one point, you said something about David resurrecting old technology. You don't like the idea of David creating the xenomorphs, and I don't either. Instead of creating them, he could have reverse-engineered them from pre-existing Engineers' records. They banished the "wolf", and David resurrected it. All of this would be possible because of an Engineer ship crashing on a planet, releasing the black goo. And once the local fauna was changed, humans come along and encounter it--with an AI android picking up where the Engineers left off. After reverse-engineering the Engineers' "wolf biotechnology" David sends the info to Weyland, and the rebirth of the wolf continues. So many events needed to happen in order to lead to the events of the Alien movies. Also, perhaps the derelict spacecraft was the one that was on its way to deliver its payload of xenomorphs to Earth, but crashed before it could. The Engineer in Prometheus rips off Weyland's head because he knows that Weyland comes from the planet that he was on his way to destroy. Man, all of these details about origins and explanations really makes this IP feel more and more like X-Files lol

Great video as always 👏🏻

"Romulus" was the name of the founder of ancient Rome. The "wolf" image is an ancient image of the legend of the founder of Rome, which said he and his brother were raised by a "mother wolf". It's interesting and that's there in the movie for a reason

Love your videos on this

Great theory video!!

Superb video

To be fair, there is still a major unknown of the xenomorph. Even if we accept David having created the iteration of them we are familiar with, it is still the product of a flawed copy of dna from a species we are missing half the origin of. The original Deacon, the Engineers 'lord' was created from an engineer seemingly accepting a still unknown facehugger. That the engineers were so focused on the Deacon's blood after its death or loss, would imply that they didnt have or didnt know Where that facehugger that Made The Deacon came from

dont get wrapped around the axels about " blue mist". Its just a blue beam of light set at a height just outside the stasis field to observe the surface so when something breaks its the line in the dark its still visible. It would of most likely been apart of an alarm at some stage to let the space jockey know if the stasis field was comprimized. when you think about the size of the room they are in and how ineffiecient it would of been to fully illuminate, the simplest method would be a laser. The mist itself is just the normal humidity which the biproduct of the eggs. you mentioned blue mist waay too much, its in alot of sci fi. infact the scanner droid in Aliens uses one to scout the pod ripley was in.

I really hope that this theory is not true and this film goes back to the original storyline without the engineer intervention. Having said that, I'm not holding my breath for any alien reboot anymore.

Big fan of Prometheus and Covenant. Hoping for a mini series or movie for the 3rd prequel. Would be great if they reference David in this movie somehow. I’ll watch it regardless!

Thanks for the music from Breath Edge, a brilliant video game.

Sounds like you didn’t listen to the plot spoilers for Romulus before making this video. Might wanna catch up.

3:08 the image on the door is of the twin brothers Romulus and Remus suckling at the Wolf Mother. Romulus killed Remus, and went on to found the city of Rome, and the Roman Empire.

@mrscanlan.5016

8 күн бұрын

I wonder if they cloned the big chap, and very very late in the film we see that clone also a twin of the big maybe, but don't show us the audience that they cloned it??? i know the two ships are called Romulus and Remus, just hope see another version of the big chap

The director of Romulus: "there's no blimmin' 'Engineers.'"

where can i find this background theme music??? its awesome

I can actually see the previous films connecting to Romulus, and I also believe since I saw Alien Covenant, I also believed that David recreated the Xenomorph species with his experiments with "The Pathogen" since the drawings and some of the dried out bodies weren't part of his experiments, the cave inside the engineer world from Prometheus already showed an organism similar to the Xenomorphs into the wall of the main cave where "The Black goo" was storaged. The only way to know about this answers is to wait for the movie and see how the Xenomorph outbreak took place on the Romulus station.

when kroft speaks, the world listens

@Cornyboa

23 күн бұрын

I heard he talks about movies 😏

Awesome that you caught the wolf on the door

Interesting. If you’re right. I think Romulus is a “rescue” mission to the planet that David goes to. David secretly has taken over Weyland Yutani since weyland and vickers are dead. He hacks the mainframe and changes directives. He turns all of the people in stasis on the ship into xenomorphs without perfecting them and making a queen. So he orders Romulus to come investigate and makes his queen on the Romulus. The blue mist link could be David as he his the only being with vast knowledge of the engineers. Expect fastbender to be in this movie. Ridley loves surprises. He takes the queen on Romulus to the planet that ripely goes to in alien. Has the queen hibernate while he orders the civilization and mining operation to occupy the planet. Hence linking all three prequels to alien. I’m proud we got this far. After the low box office sales of Prometheus I didn’t think Ridley would get his trilogy prequel. I always felt David made the covenant come to that planet.

Live the Alien movies, all of them. "Prometheus" and "Alien Covenant" were awesome too! Need the 3rd movie "Alien Awakening" and show us the Engineer home planet

The thing is, the trailer shows us an alien we haven't seen yet. The one that faces off with Cailee is NOT Big Chap.

@icestationzebraassociates2460

2 күн бұрын

This is correct. Big Chap wears what appears to be Adidas Top Tens which you can see in the scene where he's crawling into the engine in the final face off.

You should work for the Studio! It could be a good use for them, then you know more about the franchise as they ever will! 😄

My idea for a third alien covenant/prometheus movie is as follows: The engineers are the main characters in the movie and comes to the planet that was in the Prometheus movie. There they find Weyland inside the crashed spaceship. They have a blue elixir(which both heals and gives eternal life) which they empty all over him and bring him to life. But while doing this the Deacon from the Prometheus movie sneaks into their spaceship and hide it self in one of the ventilation chambers. In the next part they arrive at the planet from alien covenant and find the other robot(Walter) who is david's twin.The engineers use the blue elixir and repairs him. Once awaken the engineers and Weyland get to know all the horrible things that David has done, and weyland says "we have to stop David" . They set course for origae. When they arrive,they scans all the planet,and finds the planet is full of hostile organisms except on a high mountain where they discover that there are humans inside a cave. Inside the cave they meet a herd of children, who tell that when they had lived on the planet for over ten years, they began to be attacked by Xenomorphs and all the adults died or were turned into these creatures. There were also great giants developed by someone the children calls David. The engineers get ready to wipe out all the Xenomorphs that David has created, but the great giants manage to escape with one of the engineers' spaceships. The engineers and Weyland hunts the spaceship and manage to force the spaceship down on the planet lv426.Where it start sending a distress signal. The engineers return to Origae to find David, but discover that he has escaped. In the last part we see David arriving and meeting an unknown alien species on a tropical like planet. At the same time Nostromo leaves a nearby planet with the cargo of ore. But when he and the unknown aliens have left the spaceship,the deacon slips out of the ship and is seen running toward the nearest settlement. And that makes the cliffhanger that ends the third movie. The ending movie could have a duration about five hours ?

Excellent analysis, I think you may well be right about the Engineers /Romulus connection. As frustrating as it is that we may never have a sequel to Alien Covenant Alien Romulus hopefully will fill in some blanks.

I enjoyed this video but I think the links will be just subtle nods but not direct connections. I think this will be an accurate and well thought out story that doesn't break canon but doesn't tie in or build much either.

Thanks for creating this, sir. I share your belief that the mystery of the alien has become over explained. I too loved the original Lovecraftian horror, and the suggestion that these Space Jockey creatures stumbled across them millions of years ago before the eons of time fossilised the original pilot. I think that’s what made it all so eldritch and unknowable for me. It truly felt more “alien” when I had no concept of where it or even the Space Jockeys came from.

@christophmahler

22 күн бұрын

Alien 1 made man look smaller in the universe, with ancient threats and struggles truly alien - as it should be in comparison to 'UN Waggontrek in space' - but the first movie had already established that the corporation new about the species, with the android as it's agent. Therefore it shouldn't surprise that Scott came up with 'hallucinating AI' DAVID as a link to take man down a notch - though with a maze-like plot and world building (from the movies, the engineer species appears to be completely superfluous, the xenomorph may as well have evolved, naturally).

@josiaghylnd2024

20 күн бұрын

Agree. It would be so much better to have the Jockeys just stumbled across them. What could be so strong to put fear in such a powerful and advanced society? That would have been a better plot.

@J0MBi

19 күн бұрын

We might never get a clear answer on this, but the Alien species is remarkably well adapted to impregnating humans. That's incredibly unlikely to happen without some kind of evolutionary interaction - or design.

@christophmahler

19 күн бұрын

@@J0MBi "(...) the Alien species is remarkably well adapted to impregnating humans. That's incredibly unlikely to happen without some kind of evolutionary interaction - or design." It's a very good point - in our contemporary perspective - but it is likely that no such considerations were taken when Giger conceptualized the 'Alien' species life cycle for the first movie - back then it appears to have been a more artistic approach of merging sexuality, violence, technology - and insect social organization - into one image of horror. The human genome e.g. wasn't sequenced when Alien was produced while in 2008 gain of function research had altered the traits of viruses, bringing such technical details of genetic engineering into the public record. One can wonder whether Scott decided to reboot the franchise because of these social events and had then shifted the protagonist de facto from a familiar female heroine to a male android - even more, have the female actors literally slashed when other movies feature all female heroine casts... The movies didn't resonate well if taken at face value, hence the rise of 'Alien Theory' channels on social media where people wonder about the artistic process and the world building.

@J0MBi

18 күн бұрын

@@christophmahler Yeah it's definitely something to consider. Science fiction and art is always to some degree a reflection of the era and context it is produced in, but from what I've seen of the pre-production materials for ALIEN and Scott's discussion of his ideas for a potential ALIEN 2 project a lot of the concepts explored in Prometheus were in Scott's mind for a while. There was an entire religious/sacrifical element that was dropped from the original ALIEN script due to budget restrictions, and both Cameron and Scott mused openly about the nature of the crashed juggernaut and the origin/purpose of the Alien species it contained. As for Giger's designs, I remember reading something to the effect that he had recurring nightmares of the images and creatures in his art and once he created the art works and shared them the nightmares stopped. But as you say they are clearly drawing inspiration from all kinds of sources and touch on all kinds of subjects that people find repugnant and taboo. My own personal take on the shift to focus on David is to give the audience a singular villian character who embodies the specific kind of evil that Weyland-Yutani always symbolised. He takes on the nature of his creator, a man who clearly seeks to gain the power of the gods for his own ends, and David takes over Weyland's work after Weyland's death on LV-223 and seeks that power for whatever ultimate goal he envisions. Where this fits in the context of film protagonists/antagonists I'm not sure, but I reckon that Shaw and Daniels being removed offscreen is best explained with the easily observed audience backlash against the characters, and studio interference in the projects generally. But again this is just another example of the real world conditions a text is produced in shaping the text itself.

Definitely after watching this analysis, the company was definitely aware of the Xenomorph because of David, and they redirected the Nostromo to LV426. Ash was given specific instructions to obtain it but failed, so they sent a secret scientific bioweapons team down to LV426, they brought the eggs back up to do their own research on the Romulus and obviously things went wrong. Not that hard to figure out!

Have you seen the footage of what could be the same ship Ripley floated through space in?

do you have any information about a possible movie with David and the engineers at war because of David's action on the home world

Gladiator 2 will have the engineers

It's pretty clear from the murals and such in prometheus and covenant that David didn't really "create" anything. He developed a new version or strain of something that the Engineers themselves couldn't fully understand. The Engineers may not have developed the black mutagen and xenos either, for all we know they stumbled upon it somewhere same as humans did.

I REALLY hope we get closure for David...

David is the best bad guy ever

What is the music playing in the background?

Imo the blue mist thing is a stasis field of some sort to contain the eggs in the original alien

Yautjas: "Let him (David) cook."

I for one hope you are right on both counts. - The blue mist is absolutely an Engineer tech!!

We need atleast 10 minutes of engineer screentime

I think Prometheus, Alien: Romulus borrows its name from classical mythology.

I think, realistically, given the lackluster response to Covenant this film will neither confirm nor retcon those films. It’ll be just as you have done - you can make links if you want, or you can say the prequels didn’t happen, and both will make sense.

The Engineer footage at 0:38? Is from where?

1. That is a bear, not a timber-boi (wolf) 2. The blue mist is likely a reverse - engineered (😂) recreation of the engineer's tech which w.y. would be able to recieve the data of within davids reports and backups. 3. Knowing the franchise for life: the "viles" object that andy is holding is likely rather a kind of power unit they need to charge to unlock a door, because.. that's just how alien-movies will alien-movie at the end of the day.

Anybody have, or know, the timeline of dates in the movies of this universe?

Good ideas. Specially the blue myst

I'm very happy about this movie I'm beyond excited at this point

That is totally a "bear" emblem on that door haha... not a wolf... someone on set is getting fired

“Hillloh guys kroft is here” lol

I can't get behind the idea that David is the creator of the xenomorphs for the simple fact that the room with the black goo in Prometheus had a xenomorph in the mural.

@treborkroy5280

20 күн бұрын

He didn't create them, just continued them with an android with a god complex motivations.

@koncise0363

19 күн бұрын

David felt humans and Engineers were not on his level. In Prometheus we basically saw on the ship where the Engineers experiments seemed to have backfired on them. It was David’s perfect opportunity to play God more than his father Weyland. David wanted to perfect what the engineers couldn’t and tame the Xeno which he did in Covenant and the Engineers didn’t in Prometheus which is why they were all piled up dead. David essentially did create the Xeno because more than likely if David does reappear the Xenos will run rampant and David will have full control of them with a flute in his mouth

@ichigen511

19 күн бұрын

@@koncise0363 I appreciate your reply and this makes sense. I am onboard with your speculation. But what is the xenomorph in the mural about? It would seem that the Engineers know what the end game looks like. Is it depicting the thing the Engineers wanted to create but were unable to control? Is that what you are saying?

Nah where did David go with the fucking ship full of eggs, I don’t like the implication that he metaphorically set up a universe with sporadic and random xenomorph encounters, he was smart, he would have executed a perfect plan

@user-sc9li1qt1e

14 күн бұрын

You are right😀 They probably need a new take on the story ? Come up with a story involving a new kind of aliens ? Perhaps the main enemy of the engineers ?

Are you going to address the fact that the 'original script' of Prometheus that you spent several videos analysing has been proven to be a fan made fake?

Prometheus was a good film that suffered fro Ridley Scott's insistence on cutting/editing down the the bone for "pacing". He leaves too much on the cutting room floor (so to speak). Covenant even more so. Scott had the cheek to say Blade Runner 2049 was too long. No it was perfect. It had room to breath for the audience to absorb what was going on. Scott's version would have not made sense as he cut out too much. Same with Prometheus. It needed about 20 mins more. It all happened too fast. Possibly Scott's background in TV adverts? What was great about Prometheus was it riffing on Chariots of the Gods by Erich von Däniken. That whole concept is very compelling. Personally I wish Prometheus 2 (Paradise?) had been made and it wasn't until the third prequel that we fully got back into Alien territory. Stupid studio (and Scott) decision.

No chance this connects to RAISED BY WOLVES, right?

@Fourtune1

23 күн бұрын

Not the same at all

@J0MBi

19 күн бұрын

Probably got a lot of the same themes

@icestationzebraassociates2460

2 күн бұрын

You mean Space Vikings?

There are connections to Prometheus and covenant in this movie. It’s a pretty big plot point too.

The wolf is a reference to Romulus and Remus. I think you are seeing things that aren't there.

Look into the Remus Romulus story, it explains the creature every one is so confused about

Some info for you @Kroft - this blue mist is acting like a stasis field for the eggs. This can be seen in the original AVP games from early 2000s. Primal Hunt expansion pack had the mist i believe.

I can tell by the actors that I will be rooting for the aliens.

6:36 The Blue Mist could be some kind of light to optimize the Egg gestation process??

I hope these connections will be significant parts of the Romulus movie and not just easter eggs or something that is implicitly linked to the plot. In my opinion, the engineers were at least as interesting as the xenomorphs if not a more interesting

Did they ever explain the metal teeth ?

The Xenomorph as the Wolf, I am reading the Inhibitor series ( and so should you ) and the Inhibitors are called wolves by the mother of the human hive mind.