Thank you everyone for your comments. A number of people have asked for a data as a backup - but you have to remember that when it comes to predicting the durability of engines, the best way to do that is to take the engine apart. You will then clearly see the residue of the oil, condition of the inner components etc, and often times the condition of the engine itself does not correlate with the condition of the engine oil. So it is very deceiving - and dangerous - to assume that the engine is in good condition due to the good condition of the oil (through data and analysis). People like AMD from Car Care Nut, myself as an automotive engineer, and Mr. Takumi Kurosawa (Nissan GT-R engine leader) have all taken hundreds of engines apart and correlated the condition to the frequency and type of engine oil used. That's the best type of "data" and most accurate way to predict the engine condition (you can see it). Because I have taken apart hundreds and hundreds of automotive components apart, I know exactly what needs to be done to take care of automobile components and parts (not just engine), and my recommendations are based on these experiences. My two good friends AMD and Mr. Kurosawa will back me and support me as they have the same insights and ideas as in this video. I hope this helps you understand how I came up with my recommendations. At the end of the day, you are free to decide what to do based on your own experience and knowledge. I am simply sharing my insights based on 35 years of working with cars inside and out.

@dproulx222

3 ай бұрын

Criteria A - Maximum Longevity (10 - 20 years) - 400,000 to 800,000 kms - or even longer. Change oil every 3,000 miles / 5,000 kms (6 months or earlier) Criteria B - Good Longevity (4 - 10 years) 160,000 to 400,000 kms Change oil every 5,000 miles / 8,000 kms or once a year or earlier - whichever comes first. Criteria C - Minimum Frequency (1 - 4 years) 40,000 - 160,000 kms People leasing or financing - who don't value longevity are recommended to follow the interval in their owners manual. Oil is able to keep its lubrication properties for a very long time. However, oil does get dirty and air and gas contaminants do get into the mixture Hence, why time is just as important as distance. I have huge respect for David, AMD from The Car Care Nut Channel and every mechanic who offers sensible advice. I live in Alberta, Canada and drive a Corolla Hybrid. I use a 4 month oil change interval. January - April May - August September - December I drive less than 15,000 kms annually (suburban 60% & highway 40%) Car has been rust-proofed and PPF added because the Alberta government has a ton of salt and sand added to the roads during the long winter months. The same applies to much of Canada. Toyota Corolla Sedan owners are advised to use 0W-16 oil... The weight is written on the oil cap. Criteria A - Phenomenal owners Criteria B - Fantastic owners Criteria C - Are not bothered about the longevity of their vehicles and less likely to maintain them - Zero respect. Thank you David & The Car Care Nut

@garymaclean6903

3 ай бұрын

Are you trying to say that engine oil analysis does not give good information on the condition of the oil? You seem to also be saying you cannot tell how good the oil still is based on these tests? Are you saying this evidence, that you can also 'see' the actual test results, such as amount of contaminants, amount of wear particles, etc., somehow isn't reliable in predicting both whether the oil is still in good condition, or how much longer it will protect your engine? What actual evidence are you basing such a claim on? Long-haul truck companies routinely use these engine oil services to evaluate their oil's condition. Are they wasting their money?

@briankalagher6687

3 ай бұрын

Thanks for this comment. There is something that has been bugging me with oil analysis. Like it might be missing some important things? I feel like we tripled the oil change mileage and at the same time added direct injection, turbos, and some questionable fuel with ethanol. I don't think oil capacity has increased much at all. Which all points to it being harder on the engine oil. I also feel that longer drain intervals will lead to more oil leaks but I have no proof of this. A major oil leak is almost as bad as an engine failure if it costs me $7000 to take the engine out and fix it. It just seems too easy to keep doing 5K oil changes instead of that. Thanks!

@AutomotivePress

3 ай бұрын

@@garymaclean6903 Thank you for your comments, I appreciate you've taken the time to reply. However, you've completely misunderstood what I was trying to say. Yes the oil analysis will tell you the exact condition of the oil itself. However, at 3,000 or 5,000 miles, the oil would still be in good condition and would not have deteriorated enough to be a concern. Testing at these mileage would be waste of time. I would say beyond 7,000 miles the actual condition of the oil would matter. But unlike long-haul truck industry, you would not normally need to test the oil to see how long "you can keep driving" while keeping the same oil. You would normally try not to extend that much just to save a few quarts of oil - this might matter to long haul trucks but in automobiles, the cost of oil is cheap enough that you can change them out while the oil is still in good condition. I have taken engine apart, tested oil, tested various parts, and examined data to know this as a fact. You cannot compare long haul truck industry methods to modern consumer oriented automobiles where you don't need to prolong the oil until the oil is almost end of life.

@ROGZI3L

3 ай бұрын

Thanks for the information. What's your recommendation on a car that isn't driven on the road but I start it every few.monyhs so it runs and keeps seals from drying out. It sits with synthetic

Great advice on how to make an engine last. Personally I don't care if I'm planning on keeping my vehicles basically forever or if I'm going to get rid of them every 50,000 miles. I'm going to treat every vehicle the same. I want to know when someone purchases something I bought new, broke in, and maintained, that they're going to buy something that could last another quarter million miles. I don't care if that person is a grandkid or some stranger I'll never meet. It's just the right thing to do.

@dproulx222

3 ай бұрын

Agree 100% Much respect to the people who take care of their vehicles. Especially those who change their oil at frequent intervals as outlined by David and AMD from the Car Care Nut channel. Furthermore, the people who change their cars more frequently generally have higher incomes. So an extra oil change per year shouldn't put them in any financial hardships in the first place..

@bertblue9683

3 ай бұрын

Agreed. Everyone should have this mentality. It's poor behavior and shows lack of compassion to your fellow citizen to do otherwise.

@dbown1959

3 ай бұрын

Thank you for your post, there are a lot of people who will never be able to buy a new car and they are so lucky to buy a used car from people like you. I think your post is as important as the video itself, if not more.

@derek2479

3 ай бұрын

100% agree. I'm disappointed that a channel like this would even encourage screwing over used car buyers.

@jonhansen4745

3 ай бұрын

@@derek2479 I don't believe that is what David is advocating and I definitely didn't mean for what I wrote to come off that way.

2007 4Runner. Oil and filter change every 5k and transmission flush every 60k. Currently 343k miles. Runs and drives as good as the day I got it. Burns no oil, no leaks, transmission is milky smooth. Wouldn’t hesitate to jump in and drive it from Georgia to California and back. Just a great vehicle made in a place where they value work ethic.

@TheBandit7613

3 ай бұрын

Time to switch to 3000. Just from wear and tear it's getting more blowby which is introducing more unburned fuel into the oil and contaminating it faster. Go for 500,000 and more... I have 435k on my cheap Hyundai, changing every 3000 and trans oil every 30,000 My trans oil changes are simple drain and fills. Drains one gallon per change.

@bertblue9683

3 ай бұрын

You've bought the sweet spot of peak Toyota engineering. 2006-2009

@TheBeatenPaths

3 ай бұрын

Awesome!!! I'd be interested in knowing how often you change your transmission/diffs/transfer case fluids. And at what mileage did you do the first changes?

@Kdavis8377

3 ай бұрын

@@TheBeatenPathstranny every 60k, all diffs every 20k, I lube all the lube points every oil change . Seen many 5th gen’s with 150-200k miles still running strong as well.

@poppyneese1811

3 ай бұрын

On the transmission do you do a flush total fluid Change or what’s in the pan?

I'm an "A" guy. I've always bought new, kept them for 10+ years, although nowadays I use synthetic and go for 4-5k miles. I am disappointed in the "C" recommendation. This is why I don't buy used. The attitude is basically "I don't care if who gets it next will have a long-term car. I got mine.".

@tubedude92

3 ай бұрын

couldn't agree more..very well said 💯

@njackson18

3 ай бұрын

I was thinking the same thing. Basically C is encouraging bad maintenance.

@JHKCF

3 ай бұрын

Why is it bad to use the manufacturers recommendation? Unless they want the car to fail so you have to buy another one. If that’s the case why would you be a repeat customer if the engine failed prematurely on their recommendation?

@nowayout8639

3 ай бұрын

@@JHKCF Basically every driver have different driving conditions which does not fit the ideal manufacturer oil change interval. You may have short trips like driving to work every day for 5 minutes which does not allow the engine to fully warm up. You may be a driver that does mostly city driving and that effects the engine oil. On the other hand you drive mainly highway driving which is good for the car. Then weather plays a part in which dusty and extreme freezing condition or very hot desert condition will effect engine oil wear. So the 10,000 mile oil change the manufacturer recommended is not ideal for that driver that drives short trips mainly in the city. On the other hand the driver that drives mainly highway for an hour every day the 10,000 mile oil change in mostly warm weather above freezing would be good for the engine.

@davepaturno4290

3 ай бұрын

​@nowayout8639 There are historically two schedules of maintenance for oil/filter changes. One is for those who drive in clean conditions and on longer trips. The other schedule is for what is considered to be harsh conditions with short trips and lots of dry dust and or sand.

Own two Lexus, 17yrs old and 13yrs old. Change oil and filter every 6mths or 5000miles, with mobile 1 full synthetic. No engine problems at all, to include no oil burning. I use the same interval for my son’s Prius Prime. Other than 1 hr of time, the cost for oil change is about $40 (I do my cars oil change. Can’t trust jr. Mechanics). That’s cheap for worry free engine.

@charley95sheridan44

3 ай бұрын

Couldn't have said it better myself, I also own 2 Lexus's with Mobil 1 stacked to the ceiling in my basement. Oil is cheap and motors are not. I just bought a dozen Toyota filters recently. In my 45 years of driving, no one has ever changed my oil but me.

@ernie451

3 ай бұрын

I'm from England, i change my oil every 10,000 miles i have no issues either

@matthewronson5218

3 ай бұрын

Lexuses.

@noahdunaway

3 ай бұрын

@@charley95sheridan44 I agree, I’m 73 and the only person to change the oil in all my vehicles, even the numerous new vehicles I bought I have never let the dealership give me a free oil change. When I lived in town with a lot of short trips I changed oil and filter at 2k miles and after I moved out in the country I started going to 3k miles. I also use Mobile 1 0w40 European blend oil which has a very good additive package that I prefer, also it’s just under $5.00 per quart when you buy it in the 3 jug carton from Wally World.

@jimliu2560

3 ай бұрын

A lot of people who don’t have garages (condos, apartments , townhomes) are forbidden to do any car work….. leading to longer oil changes…

Small point of disagreement , The MOST important filter on your engine is NOT the oil filter but rather its the air filter . By a ratio of media filtered ,the air filter works harder that ANY of your filters . Not to diminish the importance of the oil change but rather ADD the air filter onto the list of IMPORTANCE on your maint program! rule of thumb: it takes only ONE oz of dust to destroy 100 Cubic inches of engine displacement

In a previous job I got to visit the lab where a very well known brand of oil was formulated and tested. The chief engineer told me that if I wanted to have virtually zero engine wear I should take the recommended service interval and halve it. So 12k miles becomes 6k and so on. I followed his advice and my last car was 19 years old when it had to be scrapped due to rust. But the engine still ran like a sewing machine.

@TheRealSykx

3 ай бұрын

You wasted your money on excessive oil changes when you should have been spending it washing the car so it wouldn't rust

@Haawser

3 ай бұрын

@@TheRealSykx Trust, 19 years of salty winters is not bad. It wasn't the exterior body that rusted, it was everything underneath. Brake lines, exhaust, springs, brackets, subframes, ABS rings etc. Wasn't worth replacing all of it.

@enzoh7763

3 ай бұрын

​@@Haawser ,, same here , 19 yrs of rust on mechanic components. Doing another round of rust removal this summer and will do some protection again . Any suggestion on the protection ?

@Haawser

3 ай бұрын

@@enzoh7763 Waxoil or Dinitrol is easy to apply. It's just not as permanent as I'd like. Have to redo the stuff every couple of years. But worth it.

@factsnotfeelingssendit5961

3 ай бұрын

​@@enzoh7763spray diesel with a oil mix 70/30 70 diesel

I'm glad to hear you quote AMD, the Car Care Nut, as I follow his recommendations to the letter for my Toyota. Thank you!

@metzmatu8409

3 ай бұрын

I too follow AMD and learn alot from him. 👍

@BangBang-hk4rg

3 ай бұрын

AMD is the man! 👍

@Shawn-ky2tw

3 ай бұрын

Ahmed is the man and his recommendation is a flat out 5k interval.

@luckyguy600

3 ай бұрын

Except for a few things like what oil to use. But hey go by the manual as best as your conscience can manage it. OW- O8, OW-16 ... sorry no can do.

@kirtg1

2 ай бұрын

​@@Shawn-ky2tw if you can, what is Ahmed's channel...thanks

I let the dealer from whom I purchased my 03 Toyota Sequoia change the oil every 5k miles. I purchased the lifetime oil change plan, which cost me only $500 and a $10 environmental fee per oil change. At 301k miles, the 4.7 L engine is still going strong.

@DavidSmith-qg4dd

3 ай бұрын

Nice video

@michaelclark9762

2 ай бұрын

Not bad. You're currently at less than $19 per oil change including the environmental fee.

@garydale8874

Ай бұрын

Have had several dealers, cheat, and not change filter, have caught several doing this, so change myself now

@michaelclark9762

Ай бұрын

@@garydale8874 Some manufacturers and service managers recommend only changing the filter every other drain interval [not me, I don't do that].

@garydale8874

Ай бұрын

@@michaelclark9762 They might recommend that, but when I am paying them to do both, they should.

David, my 4Runner’s have lasted many trouble-free years as I have always changed the oil and filter at 3,000 miles. Thank you for your expertise and recommendations.

@DanielJohnson-ec8rk

3 ай бұрын

3,000 is what I did for decades while using conventional oil. With full synthetic it’s a waste of money and go 6,000

@nightingaleofsorrow9349

3 ай бұрын

A 4Runner can run forever! Every 5-6,000 miles is fine! You would be surprised the engine will be just fine! 🚙

@srf6161

3 ай бұрын

I use Amsoil signature and go 10k....never had a problem

@albetherechillin

3 ай бұрын

Nothing wrong with doing it more often. Props for being on top of it.

@smedleybutler1969

3 ай бұрын

@@srf6161 It is better for your car to use a cheaper oil and change it every 5000 miles!

I have a 2003 Highlander V6 with 160,000 trouble free miles. I change the oil every 5000 miles. I like this number and recommend it to friends because it is easy to keep track of. Whenever the car hits the next 5000 mile increment it is time to change the oil. I also keep a spreadsheet of all maintenance ever done but find the 5000 mile increment easy to remember.

@JohnSmith-yv6eq

3 ай бұрын

Mostly long commute every day on the Interstates? @@motleydude73

@gardnerberry113

3 ай бұрын

Plus, 5k is also a good time to rotate your tires. I just bought a '23 Ram EcoDiesel (last ones!) and I'll do the first change at 1.5k, then 3k, 5k and every 5k afterward. My Retirement Ride, lol! 👴🏻

@MikeKayK

3 ай бұрын

@@motleydude73 What brand oil & filter do you use? How many months does it take you to hit 10k miles? Is it mostly highway miles or stop and go? Long trips or short trips? Do you live in a colder or warmer climate? Lead foot or drive like a grandma? Top tier gas or not? Planning to keep the car until 250k miles or 450k? All of these make a difference. Remember there's no one right answer for when to change the oil to minimize risk of issues, it's completely conditional based on those and other factors. On top of that it's simply about risk, there's no 100% guarantee of issues (or lack of issues) regardless of how often you change oil, or when those issues will arise. This is why it's a never ending "debate." People think THEIR way is THE way for everyone.

@MikeKayK

3 ай бұрын

@@motleydude73 Nobody does? Dude how many people think it's "normal" for higher mileage cars to burn oil?

@metalrooves3651

2 ай бұрын

this is the BEST EFFING REPLY HERE!these anal people changing oil at 3.234 miles because they have time on their hands,and 3,235 miles is too much!@@motleydude73

My step father was a master mechanic and I tend to take amazing care of cars regardless of how long I intend on keep it. I 100% agree with your recomendations

My typical oil changes consist of 3000 mile or 3 months for good conventional oils. 4000-5000 miles or 6 months with good synthetic oils. I’ve been a heavy line tech with Ford for 15 years and worked at independent garages for 14 years……have seen a lot of damage from people not changing their oils frequently enough….typically it was lack of proper oil changes or lack of oil that caused 90% of all my work concerning internal problems….even repeatedly changed engines in customers vehicles for not changing the oil again after the first engine replacement …..some people just never learn.

@charley95sheridan44

3 ай бұрын

Nailed it! 👍

@mem1701movies

3 ай бұрын

What if a garage put 5w30 in a Ford engine that called for 5w20?

@OhSoddit

3 ай бұрын

@@motleydude73 Specs on my VZ Holden are 5w30 or 10w30. I'm running 15w40. (it is a WORN engine). It runs quieter, and uses less oil. No change in fuel economy.

@markcole6475

3 ай бұрын

@@motleydude73 that’s not good practice at all…..any oil will get contaminated with fuels and lose lubricating abilities… I worked in the automotive field for 30+ years and retired from it recently ….heavy line tech….every engine I knew of that people were changing oil at long intervals had engine problems at some point…..Amsoil , mobile 1 or whatever the so called best oils were ..

@metalrooves3651

2 ай бұрын

i dont know what KMs are....we are an american youtube channel here.@@motleydude73

If you are driving stop and go suggest changing every 3000 miles. Highway driving 40 miles or more a day every 5000 miles. 😊

2012 Hyundai Elantra 1.8 just turned 500K original engine , only used Amsoil top tier oil and Amsoil filter changed it every 11-12K it now uses two quarts between changes , no complaints.

@moonlightaurora2943

20 күн бұрын

That's awesome. Wonder if it's valve seals or rings, amazing oil.

@ralphwood8818

6 күн бұрын

In the early 80s Amsoil had a very good bypass filter. They had Bobby Unser saying this oil change is forever. At the time I was using Amsoil 10 40 with a Frantz oil cleaner. I quit draining oil routinely in 1963. I believe the Amsoil bypass filter was better than what they have now and too expensive.

Toyota owner's manual says 5,000 miles under severe conditions. They define severe as a hot climate, a cold climate, or a lot of stop & go city driving. I have also read that it should be changed at 6 months, regardless.

@Resistculturaldecline

3 ай бұрын

Yep, what they (and others) call severe is actually the average owner's usage.

@mikeprice8307

3 ай бұрын

10k these days. I leased a Corolla and they wanted to change it at 10k intervals

@OhSoddit

3 ай бұрын

@@mikeprice8307 One of the (growing) problems is "MARKETING". It's a sales pitch, to offer longer-interval servicing as a requirement (hence cheaper and less inconvenient to the owner). The executives go to the engineers and ask what is the MINIMUM oil change distance to get the vehicle *past warranty* - not necessarily what is optimal for an extended life of the vehicle. (In fact, it's in their interests for a car to "fail early" - so you go and buy another one, rather than keep it 25 years!!). What 'sounds best' to a new buyer, 3,000 mile / 6 month changes, or 10,000 mile / annual changes? Most experienced mechanics will advise oil changes at HALF the manufacturers recommended distance.

@bertblue9683

3 ай бұрын

Don't go 10k

@Resistculturaldecline

3 ай бұрын

@@bertblue9683 A lot of modern cars will be dangerously low on oil by 10k, in addition to the oil being full of fuel and contaminants by them. Unless someone drives 90% on the interstate sitting on cruise control 200 miles a day, 10k just isn't a great idea.

Engine longevity & wear/tear (as well as carbon sludge accumulation) also depends on how the vehicle was driven, whether top tier fuel was used & even whether or not engine uses at least some partial port-injection instead of 100% direct-injection (aka likely carbon sludge magnet). Lots of long, open highway miles, or mostly short trips and/or city-driving stop/go traffic miles can each have a lot of impact on engine health.

@TheRealSykx

3 ай бұрын

@@DaveP-uv1ml it's less about pressure and more about air velocity and temperature. The air is moving fast enough and hot enough to burn off the carbon deposits at those higher RPMs

@TheRealSykx

3 ай бұрын

@@DaveP-uv1ml I would mostly be repeating myself here.. a carbon deposit is not fully oxidized carbon, fully oxidized carbon is CO2, which is a gas.

@tommurphy4307

Ай бұрын

a good, hand-built motor should last 500K minumum, but you'll have to build it yourself if want to do it affordably.

Another thing to keep on top of is cooling system maintenance. With many if not most modern engines one overheating incident is all it takes to cause major and expensive damage. Gone are the days when you could just let it cool down, chuck some water in the radiator and all is well.

@user-jk5nz9cd2k

3 ай бұрын

yes, eventually antifreeze loses it's corrosion preventing capabilities. My F150 is now using a different coolant than what was originally in it from factory.

@tommurphy4307

Ай бұрын

only if you use the right coolant and water- the interval is 100K on newer cars now.

Sure, the oil manufacturers certify their oil to last 10,000-20,000 miles depending on product, and they make high mileage filters, but I change my oil every 13 seconds just in case.

As a 'European' i love watching this content(and the discussion) as over here, annual maintenance - which is basically an oil/filter change plus look over on a 2 post - is the norm. A lot of European cars have variable servicing which push frequencies up to 2 yearly/20,000 miles. Really! Could this be because 80+% cars here are leased and the first owner will be chopping îr in after 3 years, so who cares about longevity? I would say that that tribology is so much more nuanced than given in this video. API standards require oils to meet minimum ASTM test criteria AFTER many hours of simulated usage: Heat - gross/integrated operating temperature, heat cycling - base oil & additive oxidation; wear rate; dirty carrying capability; lubricity (fuel dilution doesn't help here); water exposure Etc etc So depending on the use case, 100 hours or 1000 hours could see your oil dipping below the minimum requirements and hence not protecting your engine. Are you a fleet, where extending intervals by 3000 miles could save you 10s of thousands? Or is it your one car that gets you to work all day and you can dispose of the oil for free?

First thing: manufacturers recommendation on severe service schedule is my baseline. I typically do a 5k mile OCF using whatever synthetic OEM spec oil I can get on sale, a high quality filter, and the occasional lab analysis. I also do other fluids at 60k for trans, 90k for coolant, and brake fluid every three years. Service on 4wd transfer case and differential is approximately every 30k - 50k depending on the component. I’m not afraid to go longer on the OCF if on a long over the road trip and have done an 8800 mile change with lab analysis showing the oil still held additives and no degrading wear byproducts. Excellent summary sir. Grease is cheaper than steel.

I get my oil changed every 6-months because I usually only go out driving twice per week & only drive about 3200-3400 miles total per year. So my oil is getting changed every 1600-1700 miles. 😝 Probably overkill, but its not breaking the bank to change the oil/filter twice per year.

@dproulx222

3 ай бұрын

You're a good person... Much respect.....

@bobhawkins3387

3 ай бұрын

Can I buy your used car?

@jere4524

Ай бұрын

I'm a low annual mileage driver. I bought my 2014 Subaru Outback new, and I've put 46,000 miles on it in ten years, and I've put about 1,800 miles on it in the last six months. The oil looks dirty at 1,800 miles compared to my Lexus which always looks clean at the 6 month oil change interval. I use Wix XP filters and Mobil One on each vehicle. Neither car has been to a dealer except for warranty work. I do my own oil changes and maintenance, and by the way, I'm 76 years old....still crawling under the cars. 🙂

I used to work in a car dealership, and this is an endless argument with people which I never quite understand: You pay huge money to purchase, or lease a vehicle and then you simply refuse to change the oil at a relative small cost in comparison. I have always changed my oil at regular short, and reasonable intervals in my personal vehicle, and when I have occasionally taken people for rides the first thing they generally comment on is "gee, this thing really runs smooth" well duh, no wonder.

2017 RAV4 with mostly highway miles with a road warrior job. Full synthetic, the oil didn't even start getting dirty until 6,000 miles. I added half cup of Seafoam or Marvel Mystery to the crankcase the day before oil change and made sure it was warmed up fully. It is my suspicion that the sludge buildup in/on the piston oil wiper rings are what cause these engines to fail prematurely and start burning oil. As it was mostly highway miles, I usually changed oil at 9k-11k intervals. Call me crazy, but 205,000 miles currently and no oil burning issues. Toyota filters from dealer, oil is not black...maybe dark brown before changing. YMMV but I'm very happy with this vehicle.

@dongjuang4196

2 ай бұрын

I think you are the wisest man not to do unnecessary frequent oil changes. Really crazy are those who change every 3000miles.

@sawmanbigtreeslayer2360

Ай бұрын

I have a 2020 Rav 4 with the 2.5 liter. I been doing the Mystery Marvel right in oil. Same thing. Oil looks clean at 5000 to 6000. I am using Mobil 1. 0W-16 weight with the high end Fram filter. I do notice that at 74,000 miles when you punch it in Eco mode it will redline like the transmission is stuck in 5 or 6th gear. I believe these have an 8 speed auto transmission. I have feeling that its not good on these motors to run right up to 6200 rpm. Creates a ton of heat. I wonder if that is why these engines fail at lower mileage? The Mobil one is rated for 10,000 miles. I have been doing it at 7500 miles.

@user-ff5ge7hx2c

Ай бұрын

You listen to to many videos and have a false idea of what's in your pan, if you change oil regularly there is NO CRAP in your pan

@Frank-rb2ry

12 сағат бұрын

@@sawmanbigtreeslayer2360 I'm also 2022 Rav4 2.5L 8AT, I don't drive too much, so I usually change once a year.

Thanks for the video! I just have my 2023 GX460 serviced for first oil change from the dealer. They told me to go back for the next service after 16000 kilometres. I was shocked. I guess I will go back to the oil change for another 8000 kilometres.

@RJ2878

3 ай бұрын

Dealers typically follow manufacturers recommendations. Better if possible to learn to do yourself, then you make that call. The manufacturer makes their cash selling new cars.

@jsfbay1

3 ай бұрын

@@RJ2878 Or take your vehicle to an independent shop if you can't properly dispose of the old oil. And, at an independent shop, you can ask them to use specific oil, whereas a dealer or an oil change shop will buy whatever the cheapest oil is (AMD from Car Care Nut surprised me when he said even the dealerships buy the cheap stuff and don't necessarily use their brand specific oil.)

@OhSoddit

3 ай бұрын

I'll second the opinion for a "learn to do it yourself" (IF POSSIBLE). I have permanent partial disability (leg) and I can still do it no problem. I have a 2006 Holden VZ. If I'd KNOWN just how easy it is to do when I bought it, I'd have ALWAYS done it myself!! (For the Holden VZ, you don't even need to raise / jack the vehicle (can reach the sump plug with a socket wrench without ever being truly "under" the car), and the oil filter is easily reached from above (under the bonnet)). It took me 10 mins to watch a 10 minute "how to" video on youtube, and about 10 minutes to do the actual oil & filter change. Now obviously this depends on "your vehicle" / design as to how easy it is (or isn't), but if you CAN do it you'll most certainly be better off. Even if you need to buy any tools for this purpose, you'll soon recoup the cost in savings from dealer charges (hint, wait until auto stores have a "discount / sale" on oil or filters, and buy them CHEAP even before you need to do a change). If none of this is possible, I'd still recommend you locate and MARK the oil filter in your car (so you can be sure it's a different one when you pick your car up) - too many dealers have been caught out NOT doing the work they charge the customers for (and the "quick lube" places are even more shady). My car has "issues" at 220,000 km's (potentially facing a complete engine rebuild), I've been told by multiple mechanics if I'd had the oil changed at HALF the manufacturers recommended 15,000 km, none of those issues would have happened (I went 50,000 km's without a change and now it's "sludged"). Oh, and if you do stick with dealer service (I've had bad experiences), INSIST they change the oil FILTER as well - not "just the oil".

@JohnSmith-yv6eq

3 ай бұрын

You need to ave proof of a professional doing the oil and filter changes re warranty. You can insist that the dealer do it "in between" their recommended service points if you are paying for it. Then there is no problem... they have changed the oil and filter...you have the receipts. If they do it as part of the service free re the warranty then they can do the next change for free at their stipulated 16k...you've done it at 8k... You get it done and pay for it at 24k They do it free at 32k etc. They can't argue with it....

@jsfbay1

3 ай бұрын

@@JohnSmith-yv6eq I thought that there was a law that said you could do the oil changes yourself - but keep the receipts. Maybe I'm wrong. Or maybe I'm thinking of the part where you do not have to take your vehicle to the dealer for service during your warranty, you can take it to your favorite private shop.

The number one beneficiary of this advice is the companies making and selling oil period, end of discussion.

@ralphwood8818

12 күн бұрын

True

25 year old Honda Accord, oil and filter changed every 3,000 miles and it still runs perfectly.

Run full synthetic. Change ever 5,000 miles. You can't go wrong.

Driving habits, driving conditions (Highway or city), climate, driving usage (off road, tow, commercial...etc), age of vehicle are all important factors missed here, with respect. I run a showroom condition 2015 AWD MDX in 🇨🇦 with 120,000km's on it. It's cold here and I do city driving mainly, I run full synthetic oil. The Acura maintenance minder is pretty advanced (It monitors many items) and I trust it. It kicks in at about 6,000miles (9,500km) and that's in line with the owners manual and what I believe personally.

Having spent 42 years in the automotive industry, 32 of those as a shop owner with employees, I agree with your general service interval assessment. Especially for those who don’t read their owners manual. The whole service interval thing has become such a contentious thing. The automotive manufacturers have fallen into the word game, making up and changing definitions. With the 10 and 15,000 mile service interval Almost No one falls into the normal service interval. The normal intervals consist of starting the vehicle in Temperate conditions, driving a short distance to the freeway. Driving at freeway speeds for an extended period and a short distance to your destination. No cold or hot start conditions, no extended, driving on surface streets to get to the freeway. No stop and go traffic, no heavy loads (including passengers) , no short trips, no mountainous, driving, no towing, etc. All that would be under severe conditions, which applies to most of us, that is a much shorter service interval. Also what people don’t understand is that there are other things in their owners manual that are supposed to be done before that 15,000 mile oil change, brake inspections, tire rotations , fluid checks etc. Having a service done at 5,000 miles intervals rather than 15,000 miles intervals can save you money. If you use 15,000 miles as an interval and your tires or brakes only have 6000 miles left, they will sell you tires and brakes before you need them. Not to mention any other issues like belts, leakage, lights etc. A vehicle is an investment you need to protect. On a different note, I love that guy who was arguing with you about oil analysis. At no point did he say he was taking a sample between oil services or what type of driving he does. I love the guys who say “ I do 15,000 miles between oil services, but I do 15,000 miles in two months. Back to the beginning, it’s not the miles but the type of driving. 😊😊

As a mechanic for over 35 years, I agree 1000% with what you said. Spot on.

When I purchased my IROC (305) back in '88, I decided that I would change the oil & filter every roughly 1.5kmiles. I have done so for 35yrs with the only change being that I switched to synthetic about 7 years ago.

@JohnSmith-yv6eq

3 ай бұрын

So every 6 months or every 12 months (Sunday good weather summer cruiser?)

@vicentee2687

3 ай бұрын

it weird to me when people say it's a waste of money you can never go wrong changing the oil plus oil changes are cheaper than a motor

@willg.5168

2 ай бұрын

It'd be nice for that beaut to be ran on the highway every now and again to keep it exercised 👍🏽😏

@ralphwood8818

6 күн бұрын

Its hard to believe someone would be ignorant enough to drain oil every 3.000 miles. You can find filters that clean oil for less than 300 bucks. My oldest bypass filter is almost 60 years old and cost me about 30 bucks. My Australian Jackmaster Classic has already paid for itself. Gave up the oil change racket in 1963 with a Frantz oil cleaner and Standard Delo 30W.

These oil topics are very essential. It is also good when opinions are backed up practically and scientifically. If people have good oil change and car maintenance culture overall, the vehicle will have more potential to run longer without causing super expensive repairs due to oil burning issues and end up on the junkyards as a result of it. Thanks

@OhSoddit

3 ай бұрын

A lesson I learned the hard way myself. Changing the oil at HALF the manufacturers recommendation (i.e. twice as often) is still much, MUCH cheaper than a rebuild or new engine - and will typically PREVENT the problems that require a rebuild or new engine. Manufacturers extend the service interval as a sales pitch (looks cheaper and less inconvenient to the buyer), and have NO interest in keeping your car healthy past warranty - if it kept running fine for 25 years, you wouldn't buy another one....

@nicholaspetre1

3 ай бұрын

@@OhSoddit So much true!

@frankg6578

3 ай бұрын

​@@motleydude73don't be a troll, you missed the whole point of this video.If you are comfortable with rank/criteria 3 then go for it. Don't spew your "absolute nonsense" crap here.

I changed my oil 4 times a year. No matter how much I drive. Once every season.

For what it's worth. Here is my experience. I have 4 European Cars, and one Toyota Tacoma truck in our household. In the European cars I always used the exact Mobil-1 0W40 they specified. All my cars except Toyota are past 350k miles. Toyota I use the dealer supplied oil and NEVER anything else. No engine trouble in any of them. I follow a German Engineer's advice and only change oil and filter around 10,000 miles. Had absolutely no trouble and the engines are as new. It seems the American 3000k standard is largely a money making racket as the oil are recycled and there is a huge market for turning oil changes every 3000k.

Interesting. I own a 2005 Honda CR-V with 92,895 miles. I just had my oil and filter changed at my local Honda dealership earlier today. They recommended I get my next oil change in 5 months or when I drive another 5,000 miles. Their recommendation and my expectation for this car lined up with what you discussed in your video. Your breakdown was appreciated. Thank you.

@pliedtka

3 ай бұрын

The 2.4L used in CR-V is one of the worst Honda engine and every mechanic knows they will burn oil if the owner will go more 6000 miles/10,000 km on oil changes. While Toyota fixed the oil consumption issues in their 2.4L, by updating pistons and rings, Honda did pretty much nothing. I changed/rebuild dozens of those engines, at least 3-4 every year. In fact there's a one waiting for us this month - it will get low mileage engine sourced from Japan, since it cost the same head/valve job and installing new rings. The same goes for automatic transmissions - they hold less fluid and require more frequent ATF changes. 50k km is the norm. My recommendation max 5k miles OCI on synthetic oil. And if you live in southern US, 5W-30 since it boiling temp is usually higher than 5w-20 oils and doesn't get baked as easy in your oil control rings.

@fugarte2862

3 ай бұрын

@@pliedtka Even more reason to stick to what the dealership recommended

@18_rabbit

3 ай бұрын

except that older cars/engines benefit from MORE frequent oil changes than standard/original. Furthermore, increasingly over past 20 yrs of the lengthened OCI's, mounting evidence has risen of engines becoming damaged before they were expected to. E.g. in toyota or honda engines, not lasting anywhere near as long as other same engines do when oil changed more frequently and closer to original classic intervals of 3-4K if car is daily driver. Out of my dozens of high-caliber mechanics, they also say more frequent is better in most cases, partly bcuz various factors of engine systems in past 25 years, as well as reduced quality of engines vs 35 years ago, warrants more frequent OC's if u want the engine to last the often-possible extremely high mileages or high-years that Honda and Toyota can. It's cheap insurance that's for sure.

@phxrsx

2 ай бұрын

You can go a year if you don't hit the 5000.

This is the most logical explanation on the topic I’ve seen.

Thank you, David. Your recommendations for oil change intervals are good reminders for all of us that doing proper maintenance is the best way keep your car running in top shape. I follow AMD, AKA The Car Care Nut, and watched almost every video. His technical reviews are among the best. From what I have seen, frequent oil changes can prevent castrophic failure no matter how long you plan to keep it.

I don't do high mileage and most of it is stop-go with the occasional 20 mile run. I change the oil and filter every year when I give it a pre-MOT service. The car is 22 years old with 82,000 miles on the clock and runs sweetly with never an issue. The same goes for my 3 classic motorcycles ( combined age over 120 years) which have never had an engine issue in my ownership. At only around £20 per oil change, it's certain;y the most cost effective service item for long engine life.

Thanks David for your expertise. I change my oil and oil filter in my Toyota at 5,000 miles.

@noonyab3780

Ай бұрын

You should be changing the oil in your Tesla every 1k if you want it to last. 5K is far too long for a Tesla!

@70diezel

Ай бұрын

@@noonyab3780 I don’t have a Tesla. And Tesla suck. I drive Toyota, the best.

I find remembering to do the oil change is critical. I've got five cars in my "family fleet". The cost of oil for the car is a fraction of the cost of the fuel I put in a car, it doesn't hurt I shop for oil on sale, get good quality oil filters inexpensively and change the oil myself. All that said, I like an interval of 3,333 miles. So, my entire fleet gets oil changes when the odometer ends in 3,333 miles, 6,666 miles and 9,999 (10K) miles. They're all on the same schedule, so I can tell at a glance when I'm due for an oil change on any of the cars I'm responsible for.

@jerryyoung6494

3 ай бұрын

At first, I thought this sounded ridiculous. But the more I think about it, it’s awesome! I’m definitely starting this

@bertblue9683

3 ай бұрын

When changing oil at 3,000 mi was the standard, it was easy to just add the first two numbers on your odometer and if it was divisible by 3, it was time to change your oil. 3000 3 + 0. 42,000 4+2 96,000 9+6

Oil / Filter changes in severe usage: 4 times per year. Change each season. Normal usage: 2 times per year. Every 6 months.

I had a Focus I got rid of with 240k miles and changed the oil every 10,000 with synthetic oil. At the time I sold it, it was still running strong.

I would add, if you change your oil every 3000 miles, don’t bother with buying expensive brand oils, buy the right viscosity of whatever is on sale. Same for filters.

@thomasroberts8024

3 ай бұрын

Indeed. Costco has their house brand, Kirkland Signature, which varies between $3.09 and $3.99/qt depending on whether or not it's on sale. This oil is blended and packaged by Highline-Warren (formerly Warren Distribution, in existence since1922) and is listed in the American Petroleum Institute (API) registry as passing all the API and ILSAC requirements, along with the GM Dexos 1 requirements. A kind employee of Blackstone Labs which tests tons of oil samples annually says the results they find with Kirkland show it performs as well as any other good brand and the additive is package it contains is much like the popular brands. HE USES IT because of the good deal. I use it for the same reason! And yes, in my Lexus RX, not an old beater of some kind. The view down the oil filler pipe with a flashlight shows nice and shiney parts with no varnish of any kind at 55,000 miles.

@brianaustin1328

3 ай бұрын

@@thomasroberts8024 thanks for the feedback!

@averyalexander2303

3 ай бұрын

In general I'd agree, but make sure the oil still meets whatever specs are listed in the owners manual. Also, for severe usage such as extreme cold starts, racing, lots of hard driving, heavy towing, particularly hilly terrain, or maybe even lots of heavy traffic, using something a bit better than the cheapest oil you can find may be worth it for the added protection. Same is true IMO for boosted engines. Changing the oil on time is most important, but if ultimate longevity is the goal, I do think there is a time and a place for premium oils.

@DeepOceanDiver

3 ай бұрын

Most filters have no return rubber valve.. It that's stiff cheap stuff not working/closing as it should, engine runs on start few sec without oil pressure at all..

@enzoh7763

3 ай бұрын

​@@thomasroberts8024 ,, Thanks for writing that comment about Kirkland engine oil. Previously , I was using branded oil , Until covid event, They up their price and sales are fewer in between ,. So I just switch to Kirkland , Since I change every 5k km's . But ,, but the filter , Oem and others have price difference of less than 5% only . Good relation with parts people at "stealer-ship" , has its benefits .

In the good old days, when cars and oil were both crap, it made sense to change oil and filter often. Cars and oil are both much better now. I bought a new Acura in 2006. Acura said 10,000 miles on conventional oil and 20,000 miles on the filter. I changed synthetic oil and filter every 10,000 miles. I sold it last fall with 223,000 miles on it. Oil analysis was fine. Performance was perfect. I never added a drop of oil. EPA estimate was 27-34 MPG when new, but I was still getting 35-37 MPG. Just how much better off would I be if I changed the oil over three times as often?

@robertdavis9986

3 ай бұрын

Agree. I've used Amsoil signature series which requires once per yr or 25,000 miles. I"ve put over 250,000 miles on it without a hiccup. Car is over 20 yrs old...still gets 38mpg highway..and a Toyota.

@MikeKayK

3 ай бұрын

You wouldn't be any better off, kudos to you for doing it right. But someone with that same Acura who lives in a very cold climate, makes mostly short trips, drives with a lead food, uses low quality gas and cheap oil & filters, will probably never need to do oil changes because they'll be constantly topping off with fresh oil as their engine burns through it. This is what people don't get and why this debate continues to rage on. How quickly your oil gets contaminated and breaks down is CONDITIONAL. It's not set in stone.

@americanme3239

Ай бұрын

Yeah.. but back in the old days.. we could afford a vehicle. 😅😂

@redbaron6805

Ай бұрын

Same here, but these rules of thumb are not vehicle, driving or environment specific. Certain cars will do fine with 10,000 oil changes if you live in the right area and drive lets say 50 miles to work each way. I have an Acura myself with around 150k miles on it and it still runs like new, and I change the oil every 10k miles with full synthetic oil. But, that car was driven for hundreds of miles at a time on the highway, and it was in a relatively mild climate. If it was used for a lot of local short trips, the oil change interval would be much better at 5k miles...

@rustynail7866

20 күн бұрын

The EPA mandated pushing the longer period to cut down on toxic waste. Manufacturers would prefer it more often.

After working in engine development the biggest problem is people put the wrong oil in.... It's the acea number that counts NOT 5w 50 or whatever temperature range your country requires. I use the EXACT oil the manufacturer states and it gets changed ever 2 years or 20000 miles... I don't do that many miles in the car only about 5 or 6000 miles a year. But it's always clean, never burns any and hasn't missed a beat in 10 years.

Excellent, simple video, thanks. I am a retired mechanical, lubrication, and powertrain engineer. Engine owners must understand the engine is one of the dirtiest oil environments of all oils, and it is the contamination amount that defines when to change oil - not how good the oil itself is. Advertising 25,000 mile engine oils to most engine owners, those that plan to keep their cars, is incorrect. Use a good quality API Group III synthetic oil and change oil and filter every 5,000 miles. There, done.

Every six months since mine sits in the garage most of the time. I only drive a few thousand miles a year living in Chicago.

@JohnSmith-yv6eq

3 ай бұрын

But you drive in snow and rain and salt on the roads...

@BrianNC81

3 ай бұрын

I had a truck that only got used 4-5 thousand miles a year and I would change it once per year with synthetic. Ran like new 17 years later when I sold it. Oil really doesn't go bad sitting in the crank unless you take a lot of short trips and moisture builds up.

@khoayeuha

3 ай бұрын

Once before winter. Once after winter.

Thanks David. I love this topic. Really appreciate your views as well as a few others like carcarenut, fordbossme, and motoroilgeek who all say similar things. 6 months and 5K is the most i will do if I'm doing lots of highway driving.

Just did an initial break in oil change at 1200 miles on my 2024 4Runner and plan to keep it as long as possible. Also sprayed Blaster Surface Shield lanolin undercoating inside and outside the frame, underside, and in door panels.

Hi David. Excellent simple explanation with your three categories. My dealer in Toronto recommends a 8000 K interval. I alter this by changing oil and filter myself at the 4K mark. Makes it easy to remember. I always use synthetic primarily as it is easier on the engine for cold winter starting.

This is a really great video, alot of people guve their 2 cents without really giving any weight to what a person does with their car. I've got a 23 IS500 that I've already changed twice and it's only got 4000kms on it. Now that it's broken in, I don't plan on ever going longer than 5000kms. I plan on keeping this car basically forever as It might be the last if it's kind. I also have a highlander, which I plan on keeping 4-8 years. I change that between 8-10 thousand kms. I'm using amsoil in both cars.

@bobhawkins3387

3 ай бұрын

You know, you touched on a point which will become more poignant in the coming years. And that is the possible scarcity of vehicles with ICEs. I am holding onto mine like they’re gold (they might be soon), and maintaining them to the highest degree. Plus, I’m tired of spending 50+k for a set of wheels.

@85CEKR

3 ай бұрын

@bobhawkins3387 ya, I agree, I don't know what the future holds, but I think now more than ever, maintaining your ice's engine for the long haul is more important than ever.

@metalrooves3651

2 ай бұрын

the brand is pretty well irrelevant !I buy the prettiest can..yelloow is good.Weights arent nearly as important as people think!THERE IS so much " mechanical mythology" involving oil!ONE GUY TOLD me mixing weights was like putting half inch marbles in with 1 inch marbles..the half inch will never share the load!!! His bud said " that makes sense"....I said...NO,I DOESNT!

@5abivt

2 ай бұрын

When I bought my 19 bullitt new from the dealer I had changed it 8x by 4000 miles 😅

@ralphwood8818

14 күн бұрын

I learned at a young age oil is supposed to stay clean and filters are supposed to get dirty and be changed. The problem is the only filters that clean oil are depth bypass filters. All after market. I have a Australian Jackmaster Classic on the Pontiac Torrent. The other engines and transmissions use Motor Guards. Gulf Coast juniors and The flat head Ford V8 canister filter on the Ford diesel tractor. The Motor Guard on the old Ford f250 390 is almost 60 years old. I have 2 older than dirt Frantzs that I will put on a lawn mower. They need new gaskets. You guys are suckers. LOL.

Need a transmission oil change interval video. Interview an Aisin transmission engineer!

@thetayz72

3 ай бұрын

Agreed, we mainly just hear people harp on engine oil

@enzoh7763

3 ай бұрын

Agree too . Since mine are over 10 yrs old , I do trans and gear oil change every 50k km. That is after 250k mileage . I wonder , is this "good" interval ?

@samrapheal1828

Ай бұрын

Hint: Use Factory oil (less problems w/Asian - Euro transmissions), an independent shop utilizes that strategy. Been a client of this shop for 28 yrs. Spent 20 yrs as a auto tech/machinist at a much earlier portion of my life.

@ralphwood8818

10 күн бұрын

About the first thing I do when I buy a car is put a good filter on the engine and transmission. Then I need a quart of new oil added. Im wondering why the Pontiac calls for Asian fluid. It has a Toyota transmission. Have to crawl under the car to get to the dipstick. They dont make Motor Guard oil cleaners now. Had to modify a M 30 compressed air filter. The 3.4 engine has a Australian Jackmaster Classic. I dont believe in allowing lubricants to get dirty then draining them.

I have 2011 Toyota Corolla, it has 165k miles on it & have been changing oils/filter every 5k miles sometimes 6k miles, and still runs great.👍

People, most service centers at dealerships don’t know anything about oil. Seriously. There was once a time where paying more, a lot more, to have a dealership service your vehicle was worth every cent as they hired skilled mechanics and did top quality honest work. That’s no longer the case, hasn’t been for a long time. Today you still pay through the nose at a dealership for service but they give zero F’s about the quality of work they do, zero. Change your own dang oil. Some things can’t be avoided, recalls etc. but otherwise do as much work as you can on your own vehicle that way you know it’s done with pride and done well. It’s 2024, you can figure out how to do most things on your own.

@efil4kizum

3 ай бұрын

+2 from someone that has used Toyota dealerships service almost exclusive since 1995... until i saw the shittti work done by them hacks

David, The cheapest engine is very expensive but the most expensive oil is very cheap. I spent a premium to acquire a FIRST CLASS Toyota engine and I have no intention of using second, third or fourth class oil to lubricate it. I use the best oil on the market and follow the oil manufacturer's severe service oil change interval. After nearly 19 years my 1ZZ-FE runs as well as the day it left the factory. 😁

@floydwilliams3321

3 ай бұрын

100%

@PeterV-

18 күн бұрын

What oil do you use and say is the best on the market?

@rightlanehog3151

18 күн бұрын

@@PeterV- Amsoil Signature Series.

@ralphwood8818

5 күн бұрын

​@@rightlanehog3151 Amsoil I knew that was coming. Amsoil is a good oil. The filter is what matters. I started in 1963 using Standard Delo and a Frantz oil cleaner. I cant seem to wear out an engine. I use a Australian Jackmaster Classic in the Pontiac with Walmart Super Tech. Change the filter and add a quart of oil every 6.000 miles. Mostly highway miles. No turbo.

Going off Blackstone UOAs I change my oil every 25,000 miles running Red Line (POE base) or Amsoil signature series (PAO base) heavy duty 15w40 and the 2 micron Amsoil bypass filtration system. At 25k it still has plenty TBN and anti wear additives left with minimal wear metals and fuel dilution. It probably would be safe to run 30k intervals but 25k gives me peace of mind. I’ll change the full flow filter every 12,500 miles. For that I use the Purolator Boss

@fitnesspoint2006

Ай бұрын

i understand there can be varnish build up from long interval changes even though the TBN and wear additives are good

@andymike6575

Ай бұрын

@@fitnesspoint2006 That’s a fair concern. I plan to pull the valve cover off soon at 80k and inspect. I’ll report back!

@ralphwood8818

8 күн бұрын

There is almost nothing in a modern engine large enough to be removed by a full flow filter. I have no way of measuring microns.The Australian Jackmaster Classic claims 1 micron. Motor Guard has always claimed submicronic. I believe Gulf Coast filters claims 1 micron. I have all of them in use. I gave up allowing oil to get dirty then draining it in 1963 with a Frantz oil cleaner. I normally dont drain oil.

@andymike6575

8 күн бұрын

@@ralphwood8818 interesting…you’re talking about bypass filters, correct?

@ralphwood8818

6 күн бұрын

Yes bypass toilet paper filters. Toilet paper is high quality cellulose. They are trying to hide the fact that they are toilet paper filters. Jackmaster puts a high quality roll of Australian toilet paper in a sock and charges 20 bucks for it. I use Great Value 1000 from Walmart in mine. Most use Scott 1000. People assume toilet paper comes apart in oil. It gets stronger in oil. I started with a Frantz in 1963. Went to the top loaders in the 80s. The Jackmaster needs a firm roll. It has no center tube. They depend on the 1 15/16 core seal at the bottom. All I have used is the classic. Not familiar with the Ultra or the bigger models. I sold Frantz Motor Guard and Gulf Coast filters years ago. Motor Guard only makes compressed air filters now. I think Gulf Coast filters only makes paper towel filters now. When I was selling Frantzs Gulf Coast filters had Frantz 3 stackers all over the Gulf of Mexico. At some point the Frantzs went out of production. We also lost the FAA approved AeroFrantz. In 1963 I was working in a full service Standard station. A Standard oil engineer told me to use a Frantz and Delo. Delo came in 20W and 30W. Couldnt use multi grade in a diesel.

I change my every 4-5000. My Chevy van has 200.000 miles. Still runs great , worth keeping, just too expensive to replace.

I use royal purple full synthetic in my Elantra with 185,000 miles on it. I keep my cars for life.

Excellent summary and sound advice. Thank you

Thanks David, awesome breakdown for each oil change criteria :) 100% true results for "criteria A" with a 2001 Camry replacing oil/filter every 3-5 K kms since new and now the car has almost 500 K kms and still runs like the day it was born 😀

@bobochan4699

3 ай бұрын

just wow!

@ralphwood8818

2 күн бұрын

My 84 Subaru went 250.000 miles without an oil change If I changed the oil every 3.000 miles it would still have gone 250.000 miles. That car had a Frantz oil cleaner. It never saw dirty oil. The contamination was in the filter or thru the PCV.

The oil in the Marquis gets changed every 3,000 miles like clockwork. The car has 497,000 miles. Good advice. GREAT VIDEO!

My cars done 140k miles turbo diesel, last one turbo petrol did 220k miles. Both on annual oil changes, approx 10k miles annually, fully sync, never a problem.

The bigger question I believe, is do you drive 3 miles to work every day or 30.

@Welcome0002

12 күн бұрын

3000-4000 miles or every 6 months, as long as you do highway driving of 20-30 miles every week to burn dilution of oil by water and gasoline.

@ralphwood8818

5 күн бұрын

I use bypass depth filters on everything including lawn mowers. Even with filters that clean oil short trips in cold weather is a engine killer. In Idaho no problem I drove 36 miles one way to work. Years ago when I sold depth bypass filters I sent filters to placed like Norway and Northern Canada. Frantz at one time had a heater. I think it was a Alaska package. Kind of like a electric blanket. Not such a problem with modern synthetic oil.

@ralphwood8818

5 күн бұрын

The PCV cant do its job until the oil gets hot.

I change the oil in Mustang Mach E every 1,000 miles. It has been very reliable

I concur 100% with these recommendations. This confirms exactly the same recommendations from our Chief Shop Mechanic at one of my old Honda Dealerships. And Honda has built more engines that any other manufacturer. Thank you, sir.👍

Thank you David. Much appreciated.

Almost always keep my vehicles for 10+ years. Growing up in West Texas and New Mexico it was super important to keep the oil and filters fresh. The air filter as well and the box vacuumed out. A follow up on radiator care would be welcomed. Engines seem to have come full circle in their operation. It used to be important to warmup a carbureted engine and then it became less so with direct injection. Now with all the turbochargers it’s back to a warmup stage before pulling out.

@froggy0162

3 ай бұрын

Warming up in the driveway has always been bad for engines. It prolongs the time running cold and a rich mixture washes oil off the bore. It’s best to get it warm as fast as possible and that means driving gently as soon as you start it and back out of your driveway. It needs 5 seconds for oil pressure to stabilise and get to all parts - that’s it. Obviously don’t beat on it until the oil (not coolant) temperature is about 50 degrees Celsius

@mikeprice8307

3 ай бұрын

@@froggy0162 bs

@froggy0162

3 ай бұрын

@@mikeprice8307A well argued and thoughtful response. I especially enjoyed your technical analysis and deep understanding of the engineering involved. Well played sir.

@thomasroberts8024

3 ай бұрын

West Texas/New Mexico. My family had a farm 46 miles south of Portales for a few years. Dry-land, no well. Then moved 35 miles northeast of Clovis. Irrigation! But, centrifugal filtration along with the oil bath for the final stage was the going thing. People who've never had to dig the oily dirt from the bottom of an oil bath would not believe how much accumulates. And not just farm tractors. My '55 Pontiac also had the oil bath and you couldn't run too long without maintaining it. After I got something with a modern filter, it didn't take long to start dragging mom's vacuum cleaner out to the garage to clean out the box!

@garyallman3039

3 ай бұрын

@@froggy0162 You can't drive gently from where I live. After the first 0.2 miles, it is up a steep grade with lots of turbo boost. Fortunately, my car is kept in the garage so it is at least 50F when I start it up.

The only thing I would add is checking oil levels regularly too. All engines "consume" oil, some more than others. By the time one's low oil indicator comes on one could have already caused damage, .. even in not immediately catastrophic. At a minimum, one should check oil level once a week. If one is going on a long trip, check it before and during the trip. After a while you will understand the catachrestic of your car and can adjust accordingly. And, as long as you're at it, one's weekly oil checking routine should include checking tire air pressure too. Otherwise, everything mentioned and the recommendations are spot on. Changing one's oil regularly is the single best thing one can do for engine longevity.

I have a 2023 Acura tlx type s. Just reached 15k miles…the car is so much fun to drive. I change my oil every 2500 miles. I really love my car, it brings me a lot of joy so I go all out on maintaining her.

If OEM milage intervals in your manual are based on OEM oil, and that OEM oil is already a full synthetic, I'd argue it's best not to grant any sort of leeway just because you're getting full synthetic. I typically hit the 6 months point long before I hit the milage anyway, so I'm saying that with no skin in the game 🤣 Many owners manuals also list a "standard usage" and "heavy usage" maintenance schedule. With standard being in the 10-12k miles/1yr, and heavy being half of that. And it's very easy to fall into the heavy usage category. Trying to convince my family they fully meet the criteria for heavy usage has been an uphill battle, even though they want to keep their cars to infinity and beyond.

Have been driving for over 20 years, always change engine oil and filter when around 10k km. Using well-known brand fully synthetic for all my cars except 1 using semi synthetic. But that 1 car will have an oil change interval at 7000km. No major problem so far. Own several cars, each been driving for more than 5 years.

I love this piece of advice. I'm criteria A and I currently have 2 cars. Both use synthetic oil and both get oil and filter change twice a year independently of mileage. I typically drive between 3000 and 4000 every semester. I organize myself and I perform my own oil change mid-year and I take to the dealership once a year so that they plug it in and lube doors/etc. Greetings from Argentina! Nacho.

‘’I bought a new ‘’2023 TRD OFF ROAD PREM’’….I had the oil 1st oil changed @ 1000 miles….next oil change will be at 5000.00 ..got underneath my 4 runner..1st. Thing turned my spare tire upside down so I can check the air in it and also sprayed rust on top of the spare tire. Then undercoat the rest of the truck. I will tell you this truck rides fantastic. ‘’Thank you …for all the reviews and videos on these amazing automobiles. Thanks. God Bless and many prayers to family and friends.

@jpking0

Ай бұрын

Don’t most new car engines come with a special factory oil with additives in it that help keep the engine lasting and help with break-in? Most mechanics I hear this information and that’s why it’s recommended for most new cars to not change the oil until 6000-7500 miles at least?

David, Excellent video and your time and effort to make it is most appreciated. I need to ask a question. I recently purchased my 11th Honda, in this case, a 2024 Honda CRV Hybrid Touring model. I live in Saskatoon Saskatchewan and get really cold winters and very hot summers. Having purchased the vehicle at the end of October 2023, we had to endure a brutal December. While I park underground in heated parking, I still need to venture outside in those temperatures, park it, and leave it sit for several hours, before restarting to drive it home. The CRV has active grill shutters that assist with getting the engine up to temperature as quickly as possible, in addition to giving me cabin heat, even though the vehicle operates in battery only mode at times. My question is, should I trust the Honda Maintenance minder or go with my gut and change it more often. My concern is that the number of on/off cycles of the hybrid system means that I am more likely to not have the engine up to operating temperature for long enough periods of time to purge the crankcase of unwanted blowby and contaminants. I would really appreciate your thoughts on this question. As others have said, the cheapest engine is really expensive, however the most expensive engine oil is cheap. Thank you.

The manufacturer recommendation will find those common failure points where cleanliness is critical. AMD just repaired a Tundra with a sticking timing chain tensioner.

@charley95sheridan44

3 ай бұрын

That was a great video. I'm 3 hours from Amd's shop and only have him service my cars.

@pliedtka

3 ай бұрын

How about some BMWs or Audis - not only chains are problematic but also labour intensive. Engines are very expensive for them, oil and chains relatively cheap.

65 yrs old here. Dad was a mechanic had his own garage. Never had an engine blow up since driving at 1976. Only ever changed oil once a year usually 8000 miles. Buy the cheapest but correct grade oil. My vw did 350k miles and still going. I will do once a year as I have done.oil used to be cheap it’s now astronomical. Never had a new car either so always inherited other peoples neglect.i think engineering now is so superior with fine tolerances and just last longer. The problem in th uk is keeping car for 30 yrs the chassis will have rotted, emissions failure at mot.and suspension needs renewing due to appalling roads. Interesting vlog but am sticking to my schedules due to success

I am onto my second Turbo Petrol car, the first one had a RB30 motor and always changed the oil n filter at 5,000kms, most people who had the same car as me were rebuilding their turbos at around 160,000kms, before I got rid of my first turbo car it had 260,000kms on it and never had a problem with turbo play or actual engine. My second turbo petrol current car is an i30N Performance Luxury Model, I also change my oil n filter every 5,000kms it never blows any smoke or needs extra oil before oil n filter change. So IMO if you want your ICE to last you for how ever long change your oil n filter every 5,000kms, and Air filter every 20,000 max fuel filter 30,000kms, run some injector cleaner at least once a year and you should have an ICE which will last you for a long time.

While I can't prove this applies generally, I know I personally would pay more for a used car with a maintenance record showing oil and filter were changed every 3-5k, max 6 months. Just my $0.02.

Love this topic. Love the categories. Assume we can get a car to 500,000 miles. Assume oil changes are $40 per change. Assume you do it yourself. The differential cost to change it every 3,000 miles vs every 5,000 miles is only $2667 over the 500,000 mile life of that engine. If you drive 25,000 miles a year it will take you 20 years to get to 500,000 miles. It will cost you $11 a month more to change oil at 3,000 vs 5,000 mile intervals. I had a 2017 Ford F150 with the Coyote V8 5.0l engine. I changed oil meticulously trying to maintain 3,000 miles. When I sold it I had a spreadsheet of all maintenance I did on that truck. My mean time between oil changes was 3,400 miles. I had 157,000 miles on that truck. It ran as good as new and I am not exaggerating that. It had the old 6-spd trans and after 75,000 miles I started to suck and fill one quart of trans fluid every two oil changes. This turned out to be very easy to do once I set myself up for a quick “takt time” operation. At 157,000 I sold it and received TOP DOLLAR for the truck of $28,000. It was a basic XLT trim by the way. The guy who bought it now has over 200,000 on it. He is also maintaining it the way I did. We stay in touch and we hope to see that motor at least reach 300,000. I find that to be a very reasonable expectation. My old boss had an F250 with the 6.2l. He drove tons of highway miles. He also loves his truck and maintain 3,000 mile oil change intervals. That truck now has 330,000 miles on it. It is his daily driver. His bird dog owns the back seat and is his constant companion in that truck. David. Thanks for a great video. I hate when people tell me that their book recommends 10k mile oil changes. I try to explain why I shoot for 3,000 but they don’t understand the micro physics of sliding parts separated by an oil film. This I’ll never be able to convince them. That’s ok. I just won’t buy a car from them!

@JHKCF

3 ай бұрын

I’m not arguing that changing oil every 3k is a smart practice. Why not every 2k? Wouldn’t that be even better? Why not every 1k? You don’t know that if you changed every 4k that it wouldn’t have still been running as good as new. We live in an economy where some people have to decide whether to spend their money on food or medicine. Luckily I’m not in that category, but if they go every 6k instead of every 3k, that doesn’t make them a bad person, or an uninformed person or even an unwilling person, maybe that’s all they can practically afford to do. Back in the day it was just the standard to go 3k. So was that interval necessary, or did the oil companies want to sell more oil? It reminds me of Proctor and Gamble way back in the day when they had like 90% of the shampoo market but weren’t satisfied. They decided to just change the instructions on the label to say “rinse and repeat”. So now people that followed the instructions used it twice as fast so they could sell more. Was it necessary? The engineer in this video even said, it’s not that the oil loses its ability to lubricate, it’s cause it gets too dirty. So maybe it would be helpful for the car manufacturers to put a color guide in the owners manual, and recommend a certain stage of oil color rather than a set mileage interval. Just a thought.

@joevarga5982

3 ай бұрын

"I hate when people tell me that their book recommends 10k mile oil changes." I hate when people like you think they know better than the manufacturer. I've owned my 2004 Audi S4 since it had 13,000 miles. It now has 161,000 miles. I change the oil and filter every 10,000 mi. as recommended by Audi, with Mobil 1 full synthetic without issue. I'm even on the original timing chain guides and tensioners. Now tell my how I'm wrong.

@willg.5168

2 ай бұрын

3000 mile o/c with highway driving? Do me the favor of saving that oil and I'll come and pick it up every 6 months so as to continue using that "clean" oil

@joevarga5982

2 ай бұрын

@@motleydude73 It's easier to fool someone into believing that they need to change their oil every 3,000 miles than to convince them that they've been fooled.

@armedmariner

2 ай бұрын

This all got pretty personal and if I caused any of that I’m apologizing. Oil gets dirty every time the piston hits TDC on combustion. The piston rings are totally awesome by design at how they help control the cylinder pressure but they CANNOT hold it all back. Dirty combustion byproducts come past the piston rings and make the oil get dirty. That “dirt” is carbon byproducts. That carbon is pretty abrasive. That dirty oil may still have lubricity within spec range but it is still dirty. David did say that Toyota race engineers think very short mean time between oil changes is better. I believe this is the reason. Yes it is still “slippery” but it’s also now dirty with carbon blow by and that means it is also now a bit more abrasive. I shoot a lot. I’ve studied carbon deposits in F-Class Benchrest rifles. Carbon deposits left uncleaned are incredibly tough to remove. Especially the “carbon ring” just forward of the bullet right before the lands. Carbon can build up there enough to not only open up shot groups but also produce excessive (dangerous) pressures. I’m wondering is someone out there can technically describe what an oil filter is capable of filtering out of oil? Does an oil filter reduce carbon in the oil from blow by? Or is it only good for larger particles? It would be awesome to understand pressure gradients across an oil filter at 2k, 3k, 4K, 5k up to 10k or even 15k. I would think that when oil pressure gradient picks up to a certain point that’s the time to change oil. I suppose that kind of pressure gauge could be installed. I just changed my F-350 7.3l gas engine oil today. I have 58,000 miles on that truck and my mean time between oil changes is 4,600 miles at this point. I am going to stick to that. Personal choice.

When you buy a new car, it normally has about 5 years free servicing anyway. If second hand, check for service history. If none, hope for the best and use synthetic oil and change oil and filter regularly. Don't forget to check air filter too. That's overlooked a lot. 😬

This proves a point I keep mentioning to friends & family. You have to know when to trust the owners manual and when not to. Also, everyone forgets about transmission/differential/transfer case fluids too. This gentleman's drain intervals applies to those fluids too!!!

So the moral of the story is DO NOT BUY LEASED VEHICLES EVER!!!!

@dokada1

3 ай бұрын

I agree it would be better to buy new, instead of lease. But I have been buying off lease CPO Toyota and Lexus because of the lower cost and service history. Although only the manufacture's oil change interval was followed (A) early in it's life, I change oil with (B). Both of these vehicles. 2014 Camry (150K miles), 2008 Lexus ES350 (125K miles) consume very little oil and run great.

@williamiwaniuk5561

Ай бұрын

I would add a caveat that buying a leased vehicle or or a "program vehicle"/ demo or a used vehicle that is no older than three years can be fine, provided that the Carfax indicated proper oil changes and maintenance. In my life, I have never been stuck with a vehicle that was not cared for properly. Additionally, buying new does NOT guarantee success. As an example, I have experienced a Coyote engine that needed a quart about every 1,500 miles; according to the manufacturer, that usage is normal. I had a second Coyote in a different truck that never used oil during an entire oil change interval. I also had a 305 cu. in. that, after the 12k warranty was up, showed 2 adjacent cylinders with wet spark plugs.

That's exactly what I do the criteria a weather I own the vehicle five or fifty years I always change the oil within a six month period!

Thank you for this sir, I'm about to get a new/used car and want to keep it at least 10 years and this really helps me to know what pace to keep with maintaining it, I appreciate it

I use semisynthetic and run it to 7k miles ... car has 11 years and 123 k miles and counting. No tick tick or any strange noises, strong as new.

I can’t remember the last time I saw a vehicle replaced because the engine was worn out. Almost always it’s the car that falls apart around the engine. The transmission fails, all the accessories start failing or the body rusts out, or the cost of repair exceeds the value of the car. Seldomly do I see and engine needing replacement.

@fcnghkkc1

3 ай бұрын

Go to a Kia/Hyundai dealership and you'll love the blown engines lining up for new engines. 😊

@ralphwood8818

10 күн бұрын

I hinted I would like to buy a guys Toyota Camry that belonged to his wife that is in a nursing home. He said its going to his daughter. Her Camry has over 500.000 miles on it and is starting to give her trouble. He said I have a nice Hyundai turbo 4 that threw a rod and is being repaired under warranty. Would you be interested in it.

That's the trouble when you buy a used car.You don't know how often the previous owner changed the oil & filter unless you know the previous owner personally. If you're buying a used car check the oil level dip stick & if you see sludge on the stick, don't buy that car! That engine is on borrowed time & ready to blow!!

This is why I never buy used cars a lot of people choose C through Z and you really never know

I change my oil when I can’t see my oil dip stick level lines through the oil. Fifty five years of doing it this way and never ever had an engine problem. Clean oil is best oil.

Depends a lot on the engine and also driving. The family MB needs oil change every 4 months 😭 due to fuel dilution

Criteria c does not appear to be ethical. The next buyer of the used vehicle will have to deal with the decisions of the first owner. Do unto others what you want others do to you. Criteria c is for those who do not care about the vehicle or others that will take over the vehicle.

@dbown1959

3 ай бұрын

100% nailed it, couldn't say it better.

@KYFHOme

26 күн бұрын

Following the manufacturer's recommendation is unethical? If so, it would be the manufacturer who would be unethical.

My very first car I purchased I kept for about 12 years and did the oil change religiously at 3k. Had no problems.

Have owned and driven a 2014 Volvo V40 T5 (5 Cylinder Turbo) Cross Country since new. Just drove through 44,000km today. Synthetic Engine Oil and Filter changes at the Volvo Dealership every 6 months or 5,000km.

1998 Nissan Maxima. 285,000 miles plus running strong. Synthetic oil for the past 18 years every 5K miles. Running clean and perfect 👍🏼

@ralphwood8818

3 ай бұрын

Took me about 20 years to put 250.000 miles on a 84 Subaru. Never drained the Mobil 1. Changed the toilet paper filter once a year or about every 12.000 miles and added a quart of new oil. A Caterpillar lab said the oil looks good for that many miles but suggested a filter change and a new quart of Mobil 1 every 6.000 miles. They found some caramelization. I removed the full flow fillter when the car was new. The engine was still running good but both head gaskets were leaking oil when I gave it away at a little less than 300.000 miles.

@ralphwood8818

3 ай бұрын

I probably should have put an oil cooler on the Subaru . When in Dallas Texas traffic with the A/C on the temperature gauge was near the red. Wife called me once. The radiater split at the seam.

You are 1000 percent correct don't bother about such criticism

I drove with diesel vehicles over 2,000,000 km or over 1,400,000 miles. I change my oil every 5,000 km (approximately 3,500 miles). May the Lord bless and keep you. (I always buy my cars old with about 300,000 km on the speedometer for about 1,900-2,000€ and drive on them over 200,000 till 500,000 km on the speedometer.)

Thank you David! Great information.

It would be nice to add an addional category for those people that don't drive very much and make lots of short trips. They need to be changing their oil more often or yearly or max every two years, but it is hard to convince some of them.

127,000 miles. Toyota Avalon is 20 years old. Change every 3,000 miles or once a year, whichever comes first. The family had 3 other units, same model and they each went over 250,000 miles. Change the radiator fluid and drain transmission sooner than Toytoa recommends.