Engine Thermostat Testing and How They Work

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Car or Truck Thermostat Test and Showing You How They Operate using Hot Water from a Kettle

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  • @jonstone6923
    @jonstone692310 жыл бұрын

    I like this video. I've a car to replace one on, its funny to see a car heat up to just slightly above cold and when you start to drive it it gos below cold position. T/stat stuck open for sure, hose coming from t/stat to radiator is the coldest line on the system. Radiator water takes for ever to warm up. But the t/stat is 15 years old too. Lol!

  • @RockysRoadshow

    @RockysRoadshow

    10 жыл бұрын

    Greetings Jon Stone....Thanks for your nice comment, my Friend....Let's see now....I will put myself in your place, as it applies to what you Described about the Vehicle with the "Symptoms" that you posted in your Comment, and, what I would come up with, in as far as a "Reason, or Reasons" that may be causing that "Cool" running Engine, as mentioned in your Comment....I have Learned over the years, to, "Not Assume Anything", without having a Closer Look/Observation at the Subject at hand....In the Past, just like Others, I would do the "Point the Finger, Blame Game", and, quite often, I made Mistakes....Like they say, (and they sure were Right), and that is..."You, (actually "i"), "Learn from Their Mistakes!"...lol...(Yes-Siree-Bob, I did, and, still Do, Learn from my Mistakes)...cuz...it happens to be one of a Human Beings "Traits!"...lol. In the Past, I would have Assumed (or Blamed), the Thermostat (for being Stuck Open as well), given the "Over-Cooling -Symptom" that you were talking about. Here are some things that I would be Thinking about, as for the Engine Not Warming Up to Operating Temperature. The very First "Thing" that I would be Checking-Out, is, the "Cooling Systems-Coolant Level (Coolant = Antifreeze/Water Mixture)...."Warning", "Never" Open the Radiator Cap when the Engine is "Hot!", because the Coolant is "Hot" and under "Pressure", and, if a Person were to Remove the Radiator Cap while the Engine is "Hot", the "Escaping", and "Pressurized" Coolant will "BURN" You!!! (I just wanted to "Warn" the People that may not already know about "Hot" Coolant, and, the Dangers that are involved with the Pressurized and Hot Liquid). Now then, I would make sure that the "Coolant" is "Cold", for starters. Then, I would Remove the Radiator Cap, to see that the Coolant Level was All the Way Up to the Filler Neck (where the Radiator Cap gets attached to). Please, Don't Assume that the Vehicles "Coolant Level" is Alright, and to the Correct level, just be looking at the Coolant "Over-Flow" Reservoir (usually, just a Plastic Jug, that accepts any Extra Coolant that the Radiator lets out)....There is an Exception to this, and, whenever the Coolant Reservoir is "Above" the Level of of the Radiator itself (Example = the Older 1970-ish Chevy Vans, where the Coolant Over-Flow Jug is "Above" the Radiator), and, if you Opened the Radiator Cap, in these Vans, all of that Coolant would "Flow" Out, and, all over your Engine Compartment! (unless you Drained it First, that is). Some of the "Older" vehicles, kinda like in the 1960's and Older, Never had a Coolant Over-Flow Bottle/Jug when the Vehicle Rolled-Out-Of-The-Manufacturers Assembly Plant. If that be the case, then, the Coolant "Level" was usually Kept from about "1" to "3" Inches (Ballpark Figure) "Below" the Radiator Filler Neck (the Opening where the Radiator Cap gets Attached to), when the Coolant was "Cold", to allow for "Expansion" of the Coolant. If you tried to Fill this Style of Radiator to the Top of the Radiator, then, once the Coolant got Hot, it would usually "Puke" (lol) Coolant out of the Over-Flow Hose, and onto the Ground! Please Folks, "Do-Not" leave any "Antifreeze" Puddles on the Ground, because, if someones "Pet", or Animal Drinks, even a very Small amount of Antifreeze, it usually "Poisons" them, and in many cases, they "DIE!" Another "Variation" to Cooling Systems, is that, some have what is called an "Expansion Tank"....That is where, and in most cases that I have seen in the past, is where, what Looks like a Coolant Over-Flow Plastic Bottle/Jug, but be "Warned!", if indeed, it happens to be an "Expansion Tank", it will be under "Pressure" with "Hot" Coolant inside it, and, like I said previously, "Never Open" anything (and, in this case, a Radiator Cap) that is Containing "Hot" and "Pressurized" Fluid!!! (as you can see, "Safety" is the "First" thing to be Considered!). If your Coolant Level is way too "Low", then, whatever Coolant gets Heated, it might not be "Enough" (Quantity), to make its way, to either the "Thermostat", and/or, the Coolant "Temperature-Sensor" (aka, Coolant Temperature Gauge "Sending" Unit)....If that be the case, then, the Thermostat would remain "Closed" (unless the Steam Temperature, if any, might just make that Thermostat Open somewhat)....The "Upper" radiator Hose would not feel warm, or Hot, if there wasn't any Warm or Hot Coolant in it, Right? As for the Coolant Temperature "Sending" Unit (be it the Gauge Only one, or might be the Same sending Unit that causes the "Idiot" Warning Light to come on, on your Dashboard, if so Equipped?, or, the one that the Vehicles "Computer" (if it has one), Absolutely Needs the "Sending" Unit "Immersed" (in contact with) the Coolant! (if Coolant Level is Too Low, and Not in Contact with the Sending Unit, the "Computerized" Equipped vehicles will more then likely stay in "Open Loop" Mode!, causing a very "Rich" Air/Fuel Ratio Mixture Indeed!). Just make "Sure", that your Engine is "Not Over-Heating!!!" I Never "Assume" Gauges to be "Accurate" at All Times. Case in point...I had an Oil Pressure (Gauge) "Sending Unit" Sending the "Wrong" Signal to the Oil Pressure Gauge!. Turned out to be that, the "Sending Unit" Failed (as in Malfunctioning), and, when I Replaced the Oil Pressure Sending Unit (Dud, lol), then, my Oil Pressure Gauge was able to Show me, that, Hey Man, your Oil Pressure is, and always was Good!...lol. Also, I currently have a "Cold" Situation myself as well. My General Motors Mini-Van has a Weird Heating Problem. New Radiator, New 50/50 Coolant, Water Pump is good, "2" Brand "New" Thermostats, at first 180 Degree Fahrenheit, then, I switched to 195 Degree Fahrenheit, still, same Hot/Cold Heater Core Output "Personality!"...lol. The Heater Core will usually give off some Heat, but not as much as it should, and, at times, almost No Heat at all! (Yes-Siree-Bob, Temperature Gauge, and, Upper Radiator Hose were Hot!). Now, I have to "Yank Out" that (known to be) Troublesome Water Control Valve that is on the Firewall, that supplies the (Hot, or, Not so Hot Coolant...lol), to the Heater Core, and, Bypass it with some Metal Pipe/Tubing, and, some Hose Clamps. I have already done the Custom "Bypass" Thing-Ah-Ma-Bob Procedure on a comparable Vehicle, with "Fantastic" results! (maybe Too Hot...lol). Story Time is getting near the End now (as all of the Folks reading this post, are thinking)...(Oh my, come to think of it, I Can't Read "Minds!"...lol). So then, Jon, make sure that your Coolant Level is "Correct", and, that there is "No Trapped Air" in the Cooling System, as, that will cause unwanted problems, such as, Lack of "Heat-Output" from your "Heater Core". Make Sure that your Coolant is "Cold" before you "Check" your Coolant Level, my Friend! Maybe, once you get that "Old, and in place Thermostat" out of your Vehicle, please let me know if it really was "Stuck" Closed, or otherwise, Thanks. Take care, be Safe, and, have a good one.

  • @jonstone6923
    @jonstone692310 жыл бұрын

    I have been thinking you are absolutely right about the water level. Before I flushed the system and refilled, the water was only half way full in the tank while cold. The ford websites say it is OK and good to fill the tank to full when car is cold and refilling. I'll put more in it and squeeze the return hose to t/stat to help purge any possible air that could be left in the system.

  • @RockysRoadshow

    @RockysRoadshow

    10 жыл бұрын

    Greetings Jon Stone....Thanks for your comment....If you are using Water-Out-Of-the-Tap, or Hose, then, this Water has lots, did I say LOTS? (lol) of Air in it, as in, the Form of "Tiny" Air Bubbles....I always keep a few rinsed out plastic Milk Jugs, Full of Tap Water around here....That way, as the Water in these Jugs sits still in storage (some of them for Years now!...lol), will "Lose" the Tiny Air Bubbles over a period of time (those tiny little air bubbles should rise to the top of the Jug, with time), and, I use these Jugs of Water, with the Tiny Air Bubbles Removed, to Fill my Vehicles Cooling System....The "Less" Air that you add to the Cooling System, the Less Air that you have to "Purge" (get rid of), making the, "Get-Rid-Of-The-Air-In-The-Cooling-System", that much Less of, one of those "Need-To-Do-Chores!"...lol. Make sure that you have the Heater, or, Heaters (if you have a Rear Heater in your vehicle as well, that is), "Heat Control/s" Set to the "Heat" Position, while you are trying to "Purge" your Cooling System of all of that Unwanted "Air". Some, if not Most Heater Core Type Heating Systems, will "Stop" the Flow of "Coolant" in the "Hose/Piping" Liquid Coolant Circuit, "Trapping Air" in those there Liquid Coolant Transport Hose/Pipes, if the Heater "Controls" Are-Not Set to the, "I-Want-Heat-and-I-Want-That-Heat-Now!!!" Position...lol. Sometimes, it can take Days, or, even Weeks, to Fully Remove all of that "Unwanted" Air, from a Vehicles Cooling System. Check to see if all of the Hose Clamps are Tight, and, that the Hoses are in good condition as well, or, it may very well turn into, another Movie, called, "Lets-Chase-The-Air-Out-Of-The-Cooling-Systems-Pipes-And-Hiding-Places!!!"...lol. Good Luck there Mr. Bubbles!...lol Take care, be Safe, and, have a good one.

  • @hiliberate
    @hiliberate9 жыл бұрын

    great video ... thanks for the time effort to make it.

  • @RockysRoadshow

    @RockysRoadshow

    9 жыл бұрын

    fred james Greetings fred james....You're welcome, and, thanks for watching.......There are..."So Many Different"...Vehicle Engine..."Thermostats"...for the Many Different Engines, that are...Liquid Cooled...having a...Radiator...full of...Coolant (Anti-Freeze & Water Mixture)...............................The Thermostat, that You saw in this KZread Video of mine, are about as Simple and Basic, as they can be, Compared to some of the Other Thermostats, that are made for some of the Other Engines/Cooling Systems out there, as I've seen, in some Automobile-Parts...Pictures, in the past....................................Not only do..."They"..."Look quite Different"...from the "One" in this Video of mine, but, there are quite a few..."Different Temperature Ratings"...that, were/are, available, as far as the Thermostat, that is seen in this Video of mine, is concerned, and, there might also be, a few "Different Temperature Ratings", for the Other Types of Thermostats out there, as well perhaps....................On some of the Online, Automotive Parts, Sales Establishments, Web-Sites, I've seen..."OEM" (Original Equipment Manufacturer)...."Thermostat Temperature Rating"...as in, the "Thermostat/Temperature Rating", that was probably "Installed", in/on the Vehicle, when Brand New, by that particular Vehicle's Manufacturer, and also Listed, at times, were some, oh, shall we say, "Alternate"...Thermostat...Temperature Ratings, which could be, a Higher or Lower Temperature Rating, as Compared to the "OEM" Thermostat's Temperature Rating, as I've seen, with my Own Two Eyes...lol.......................................I can't really say, that I've ever had a Bad or Faulty Thermostat, but, what I can say, is, anytime, that I had, an Engine..."Running Too Hot or Over-Heating"...it, as I see it..."Boils Down to Two/2 Things" (like that Pun, do Ya...???...and Yes...I just Couldn't resist...!!!...lol)...oh and, those Two/2 Things are, the..."Tiny Tubes/Passages, in the Radiator"...over quite some Time (Many Years), started to get..."Plugged-Up/Restricted"...by Corrosion usually, and then, the...Coolant (Anti-Freeze & Water Mixture)..."Could Not Flow"...as..."Fast and Volume-wise"...as "it" Needed to be Doing, in order to..."Keep the Engine Cool Enough/at Operating Temperature"...!!!....................................The "Other" Thing, is when, the..."Coolant Level gets Way Too Low"...probably, due to a "Leak"...or..."Lack of Maintenance"...as in..."Not Checking the Coolant Level"...Often Enough...oh and..."NEVER, Take a Radiator Cap"..."Off of a Radiator"..."When the Coolant Is HOT"...because, the..."Hot and Pressurized Coolant, Inside the Radiator"...will..."Come Shooting Out, and "BURN" a Person"...!!!...Yikes...!!!.................................So, there You have it, and............Till next time.........Be Safe, take care, and have a good one.

  • @andyridley2236
    @andyridley22366 жыл бұрын

    My car has an electric heated thermostat is their much point in that ?

  • @RockysRoadshow

    @RockysRoadshow

    6 жыл бұрын

    Greetings...Andy Ridley...........Thanks for watching...........An..."electric heated thermostat"...you say...???...very interesting..........If you can tell me, what vehicle...???...that, you have there, as in...Year...Make...Model...Engine size...etc...then...I'll do what I can, to find a reasonable answer for you...and.......till next time........Be Safe, take care, and have a good one.

  • @jonstone6923
    @jonstone692310 жыл бұрын

    I believe I found dads issue on his truck. Man am I stupid!! He has oil leaks that are draining on the plugs! I completely over looked that, when I changed his plugs a while back it ran smoothly for a bit with a little studering. That is definately one issue to fix. How stupid of me...

  • @RockysRoadshow

    @RockysRoadshow

    10 жыл бұрын

    Greetings Jon Stone....It's nice to hear from You again, my Friend, and, Thanks, for watching this, and perhaps, my other videos as well....What's all this talk about the word "Stupid?"....I have yet to meet a stupid Person, as I find, no-matter what the mental capacity of an Individual, happens to be, at any given time, do as I do, and, You'll find out for Yourself, that, even mentally handicapped people, have a wealth of Intelligence that they possess, but unfortunately, due to their affliction, they may be unable to communicate their thoughts, in a manner, that both, You and I can understand....Just pay close attention to these unfortunate Folks, and keep a close eye on their body language and facial expressions, and, like I find, You'll be Totally Amazed, by what You observe! Now then, let's continue, shall we... You were saying about "Oil" draining onto the (Spark) Plugs... ...Was this Oil draining on the "Outside" of the Spark Plugs, or, was that Oil draining onto the "Firing End?" (aka, Electrodes). As I see it, if, that Oil was coating the "Outside" of the Spark Plug/Plugs, there isn't really much of an issue, if the Spark Plug "Leads/Wires" are made of "Silicone" or its equivalent... ...but... ...if, by chance, those there Spark Plug "Leads/Wires" are something that should be on display at the "Smithsonian" (Hmmmmm, was that an Institute, or a Museum...lol), or, in other words, if those spark plug "Leads/Wires" are made of that "Hypalon" (spelling?), Stuff, then, as I see it, if that Oil happened to be coating this "Much Older" spark plug Lead/Wire "Outer Jacket" Material, I would be willing to "Way-ger" (aka, "Bet", kinda like One does in Las Vegas, or, maybe even Reno!...lol), that, over an extended period of time, that so called "Draining Motor Oil" that You mentioned, actually "Did Leak All-Over" that Much Older "Hypalon" (again I say, Spelling?) Stuff, I would be Thinkin' that, some form of "Deterioration" was an the "Horizon". (but hey, that's just me)... ...where-as... ...if, that "Draining Oil" made its way onto the "Firing End" (and again I say...aka, Electrodes...lol), of One or More "Spark Plugs", then, that's a Scenario that "Must be Addressed!" (aka, get it Fixed, Eh!). Motor Oil can cause all kinds of problems, when it starts "Coating" the "Firing End" of a Spark Plug! Spark Plugs that get "Coated or Saturated" with Motor Oil, will usually start to Act Up, and "Miss-Fire", causing a "Miss-Behaving" Engine, that will be getting "Lousy or Poor" Gas Mile-age/Kilometer-age. Not only that, but, with all that Ignition Miss-firing Goin' On, as I see it, the Affected Cylinder's Combustion Chamber (as in, the Cylinder Heads where the Valve Heads are Hiding), would probably be getting "Coated" with "Carbon", due to all of that "Unburned or Partially Burned" Gasoline! "Lower Compression Engines" (no more then about "8.5 to 1" Compression Ratio), as I have found, can "Tolerate" quite a bit of "Carbon" in their combustion chambers, and all over the Top of the Pistons as well... ...where-as, a "High Compression" Engine, is, as I see it, much more "Sensitive" and less "Forgiving", then, that of its "Lower Compression" Buddy! Some of the "Causes" might be... Maybe, Faulty Valve Stem/Guide "Seals"... ...or... Maybe even "Plugged-Up" Oil "Return Passages" in the Cylinder Head or Heads, and, sometimes this is caused by an Engine with "High Mileage", with the associated "Blow-By" (Blow-By = Worn Compression Rings on the Pistons, allowing the actual "Combustion" inside the Combustion Chambers, to "By-Pass", or "Get-Past" the Pistons "Rings", with the resulting "Excessive" Combustion Gasses, making its way, into the Lower part of the Engine Block or Crankcase). With all of this Excessive "Blow-By" goin' on, I usually find, that the PCV (aka, Positive Crankcase Ventilation) System, "Can't Keep Up", with, "Ventilating" the Lower Crankcase Area (where the Crankshaft is spinning), and, this Excessive Amount of "Blow-By" Gas, ends up, "Rising-Up" and into the "Oil Draining Holes or Passages", and givin' enough time, will start to Form "Sludge", and "Plug-Up" these Oil Draining holes or passages, causing, kinda like a "Swimming Pool" Situation, that, when it gets "Deep" Enough, this Pool of Motor Oil, will eventually find its way, "Past" the Engines Valve Guide "Seals", then Travels Down between the Valve Stems and Valve Guides, and, Your Poor Ole "Spark Plugs", have to try and...Create a "Spark", while being subjected to all of this "Un-Wanted" Motor Oil! Also, a Person just might Experience a "Very Low" Oil Level "Showing" on the Engines Dipstick, if an Oil Reading were to be taken, especially, "Shortly" after the Engine was Shut Down (aka, Engine Not Running), due to, all of that Motor Oil, being "Trapped", on top of the Cylinder Head (below the valve or rocker Cover). I have found, for the most part, that, some Car or Truck Owners, "Do Not" Pay attention to "Regular Maintenance" that is supposed to be done, on a "Time or Mile-age/Kilometer-age" Basis! What usually happens, is, a Problem or Malfunction usually "Rears its Ugly Head", and, the Vehicle Owner (or a Buddy of His/Hers) goes "Hunting" for the "Culprit/Gremlin", that's causing all of this "Mischief"...!!! The Best approach should be..."Make Sure", that "ALL" Maintenance related "Things" are "Done", and up to date, "Before" attempting to, try to "Cure" the Problem at hand, otherwise, a Person, may end up... ..."Going on a Wild Goose Chase!!!" Till next time... ...Be Safe, take care, and have a good one.

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