[ENG SUB] 新加坡人不生小孩,是自由还是无奈?Why it's so hard to have children in Singapore | 双声道

新加坡生育率2023年跌至0.97的历史新低,在龙年会不会回弹,不少人都关注。
新加坡人不愿意生孩子,到底是因为生养孩子的负担太重,无奈放弃,还是为了追求自由的人生?
本期《双声道》尝试了解新加坡人在婚后,选择生与不生到底有哪些考量,并从中探讨生育率持续下滑的背后,社会需要做出哪些调整。zb.sg/ADBQ
Fertility rate in Singapore has fallen to a historic low of 0.97, sparking debates on why Singaporeans find it so hard to have children. Do Singaporeans choose to be child-free because they feel constrained and burdened by having children?
In this episode, our hosts explore the dilemma of having children in Singapore and find out what society as a whole can do in a bid to turn the tide.
00:00 过了35岁,新加坡人就不愿生孩子?Is having a child after 35 years old a hard decision?
03:12 39岁做IVF,为何怕针怕痛也要生? IVF journey of a 39 years old working mother
06:30 结婚17年的夫妇为何选择丁克?Double Income No Kids, is it an easy choice?
10:17 如何对职场妈妈更加友善? Is our workplace conducive to working mothers?
11:10 不生孩子是自由选择还是负担太重?Is going childless a personal choice or because the burden is too heavy?
15:53 生育率不断下滑,亲家庭政策还有效吗?Are pro-family measures still effective?
#生孩子 #生育 #IVF #BabyBonus #Childfree #Childless #dink #人工授精 #人工受孕 #leehsienloong #李显龙 #children
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  • @waikiankhoo8746
    @waikiankhoo87462 ай бұрын

    在新加坡读书做工的总结就是:累。不想我的孩子经历我经历的事。

  • @chewsoo9657

    @chewsoo9657

    2 ай бұрын

    移民去美国😊

  • @seantan4702

    @seantan4702

    2 ай бұрын

    我的论述支持者

  • @donnylimlin5348

    @donnylimlin5348

    2 ай бұрын

    US is even worse

  • @myliferecords214

    @myliferecords214

    2 ай бұрын

    ❤❤

  • @jq7956

    @jq7956

    Ай бұрын

    Totally agree

  • @SHxxxxT
    @SHxxxxT2 ай бұрын

    又要女人生多点,但是也没有提供更好的support network, expect mums to work like they don't have kids and take care of the kids like they're not working at all. 又要马儿跑又要马儿不吃草 。

  • @Darklightwithlight

    @Darklightwithlight

    2 ай бұрын

    做梦什么都有😂😂😂😂😂

  • @jocelyncao9233

    @jocelyncao9233

    19 күн бұрын

    Cant agree more

  • @arqiusino6897
    @arqiusino68972 ай бұрын

    有时候小孩孝顺才行,不孝顺的太多了

  • @user-do6gt4cs5t
    @user-do6gt4cs5t2 ай бұрын

    羊毛出在羊身上,妈妈又要上班又要照顾孩子。😢。

  • @Ziiqing
    @Ziiqing2 ай бұрын

    就是因为养育孩子的开销不小,我和我的男朋友提早商量过了,养得起(在我们的定义就是自己的开销不受影响的前提下+有能力投资和存下紧急备用金)才生。生也顶多生一个,因为我们不愿意降低自己和孩子的生活质量,不想要为了基本开销都需要货比三家来应付家庭支出。在尽可能的情况下我们不想要成为我们的下一代的负担,不管是金钱上或者是精神上。我们要独立退休,可以照顾自己,而且讲真的如果生孩子就是为了他/她牺牲自己的自由和未来人生的选择,换做我是孩子我也会怨恨我的父母。别提什么孩子需要感恩父母,她/他没有选择来这个世界,既然要带他来这个世界那就应该提供他需要得环境和资源来成长。

  • @Darklightwithlight

    @Darklightwithlight

    2 ай бұрын

    生一个啦😂。没办法啦。一个收工

  • @xiaoxiaojibai
    @xiaoxiaojibai2 ай бұрын

    u ask lawrence wong, he also child-free

  • @jocelyncao9233

    @jocelyncao9233

    19 күн бұрын

    他肯定是想要孩子的,可是男性高攀女性的代价就是没有后代。

  • @sunsetbay154
    @sunsetbay1542 ай бұрын

    生育率下降,可是我们的人口一直在增长~ 政府一支引进外国人口,搞到整个环境都非常拥挤~ 每当周末,商场都是挤得水泄不通,要带娃出门都是一件苦差~ 带娃去看医生复诊,排队,大人和小孩都累~ 在一个拥挤的环境,压力又大,消费又是全球最贵的城市生长,后果是会越来越少人会想生小孩~ 最后如果政府真的想解决生育率下降的问题,请不要再找一些专家来给提议,直接访问年轻夫妇来给一些意见~

  • @tankman20064

    @tankman20064

    2 ай бұрын

    好事啊😂

  • @Humorousguy64

    @Humorousguy64

    2 ай бұрын

    政府多弄几个PR or CITIZENS 就行了

  • @Namewee4896

    @Namewee4896

    2 ай бұрын

    新幣強啊 非常棒棒

  • @johnnyquest6894

    @johnnyquest6894

    2 ай бұрын

    同感!

  • @whatislovebutonelonggame5406

    @whatislovebutonelonggame5406

    Ай бұрын

    做零售的开心到笑不拢嘴

  • @Zebiuiui
    @Zebiuiui2 ай бұрын

    我生活都这么辛苦了,哪儿来的心情考虑国家的经济发展呢?

  • @agnesang1474
    @agnesang14742 ай бұрын

    自己的经历过的酸甜苦辣不想下一代也来承受

  • @seantan4702

    @seantan4702

    2 ай бұрын

    又一个,谢谢

  • @seantan4702

    @seantan4702

    2 ай бұрын

    @jiayaocai

  • @Namewee4896

    @Namewee4896

    2 ай бұрын

    你的下一代會比你堅強。

  • @agnesang1474

    @agnesang1474

    2 ай бұрын

    @@Namewee4896 我被逼爬上墙,孩子也吃了非常非常非常多的苦,是我们做父母造成的,很自责。

  • @bite-sizerecap4304
    @bite-sizerecap43042 ай бұрын

    Kind of ironic someone who does not want a child being judgemental about realistic choice of child care options for the modern working mom 😂

  • @Mi_Mi1990
    @Mi_Mi19902 ай бұрын

    Why? 1 - too expensive to have kids in SG 2 - Both parents have to work and both sides of the parents and relatives cannot help as all staying apart. Different from last time where all stayed in the same Kampong, so can help. 3 - SG is a stressful country to have kids as it affects physically. 4 - As a developed country, this is one of the con because both genders want independence.

  • @hoongleetan1254
    @hoongleetan1254Ай бұрын

    馬玉宣,你很勇敢。赞。🎉

  • @tuckloongwoo8614
    @tuckloongwoo86142 ай бұрын

    我认为无论男女哪一方愿不愿意生孩子都应该早早在决定要结婚之前就坦白讲清楚,把它纳入决定要不要结婚的条件之一。

  • @donnylimlin5348
    @donnylimlin53482 ай бұрын

    When u wants to hv kids , not just money , u need to hv more time to takea care of them

  • @jamieatelier
    @jamieatelier2 ай бұрын

    工时是世界数一数二的长 假期数一数二的少 何必生来受苦

  • @musingwanderer2765
    @musingwanderer27652 ай бұрын

    The man needs to step up and help with housework and kids if wanna have kids. Else the mum has to work to spilt bills with the husband , take care of kids, do housework. 1 woman show. For what Sia ?

  • @SamSam-nj3ur
    @SamSam-nj3ur2 ай бұрын

    I don't understand why the government caps the working mother's child relief instead of using a percentage. While this cap aims to encourage median to lower-income women to have more kids, many women in Singapore now have higher earnings. Consequently, the cap essentially discourages higher-income mothers from having more children. Policies to boost the fertility rate should cover women from all income brackets. Do you think it is easier to increase the fertility rate among women with median low incomes or those with median high incomes?

  • @freddygomez3968

    @freddygomez3968

    2 ай бұрын

    most social policies try to benefit lower income households, all else being equal. "Easier" if referring to financial status, does mean that the child relief is a bigger percentage to lower income mothers and definitely helps out more as compared to a mother with more earning power.

  • @Humorousguy64

    @Humorousguy64

    2 ай бұрын

    Let them show how many grangchild they have

  • @xysg1

    @xysg1

    2 ай бұрын

    Offer free education and healthcare to babies born from 2024 to their age of 21 will solve this issue

  • @sallyah1392
    @sallyah13922 ай бұрын

    现在的年轻人都向往自由和享受,对生孩子总是想太多,以其总想推迟或避免担起这方面的责任。

  • @donnylimlin5348
    @donnylimlin53482 ай бұрын

    It is not children not filial . It is the environment for children to be not filial 😊

  • @Humorousguy64

    @Humorousguy64

    2 ай бұрын

    Filial or not long way to go from rising up a baby ..just a senseless excuse

  • @xxx-bx4tt

    @xxx-bx4tt

    2 ай бұрын

    Or maybe they do not need to be. Children didn't choose to be born. With the exception of r***, parents chose to have children. Children owe parents nothing. If children wanted to look after their old parents out of love or whatever, that's great. Otherwise, the parents should live with their decision, whatever the outcome. Stop calling parental love unconditional when you had already slapped all those T&Cs to it.

  • @MsLilac88
    @MsLilac8810 күн бұрын

    Hello, I feel that parenthood can be fulfilling but challenging as parents have to work very hard to support their family. 😊

  • @user-sm3eq6zd8z
    @user-sm3eq6zd8z2 ай бұрын

    如果国家帮我把小孩拱到上大学 我就考虑生😂

  • @Yiyu_Huang
    @Yiyu_Huang2 ай бұрын

    国家越发展,GDP越高,生育率越低

  • @donnylimlin5348
    @donnylimlin53482 ай бұрын

    Sg fertility rate 20 yrs ago low and our population still grows means no need for baby at all

  • @OJYang
    @OJYang2 ай бұрын

    问题是马艺瑄是新加坡人吗?不是要探讨新加坡人生育率低吗。。。哈哈

  • @jocelyncao9233

    @jocelyncao9233

    19 күн бұрын

    我也奇怪新加坡女人很少有这么漂亮的,原来是大马人😂

  • @Humorousguy64
    @Humorousguy642 ай бұрын

    Yes something like these benefits should prove gov sincerity...not just talk and talk ..

  • @user-gg8ti3oz9n
    @user-gg8ti3oz9n2 ай бұрын

    Foc for Singaporeans and others as long as one of the individual is.

  • @linhwang6651
    @linhwang66512 ай бұрын

    女人不想生孩子,任何事都可以成為理由。想有孩子的男子结婚前必須知道女方是否是有生孩子的欲望。動物自動生下一代,人類能有選擇,就有人選不要下一代,因此除了適者生存的規律,還有自我淘汰的現象,這是達尔文沒有發現的。

  • @user-sm3eq6zd8z

    @user-sm3eq6zd8z

    2 ай бұрын

    所以真的很感谢那些生小孩的人, 他们和他们的下一代都要为整个社会提供劳动力,付税金,辛苦一辈子,真的很伟大。

  • @xxx-bx4tt

    @xxx-bx4tt

    2 ай бұрын

    人类自我淘汰?人类自以为是还差不多。一直认为自己的存在对着世界有多大的贡献。人类完全消失,让环境有机会恢复到原来的状态,说不定对着世界才是最大的贡献。

  • @Minimalist_BevSG
    @Minimalist_BevSG2 ай бұрын

    Sora Ma is Malaysian

  • @jessicalang7320

    @jessicalang7320

    2 ай бұрын

    Is she a Singapore PR?

  • @sihanchen7552

    @sihanchen7552

    2 ай бұрын

    @@jessicalang7320 That makes no difference. She is still a no good lousy foreigner. The topic is about Singaporeans giving birth.

  • @jq7956

    @jq7956

    23 күн бұрын

    Sg fertility rates why interview a pr ? Doesn't make sense.

  • @sihanchen7552

    @sihanchen7552

    23 күн бұрын

    @@jq7956 If her child is Singaporean then will be relevant loh.

  • @jocelyncao9233

    @jocelyncao9233

    19 күн бұрын

    Of course, since Singapore women wont be that beatiful.

  • @Jon-bf2rs
    @Jon-bf2rs2 ай бұрын

    太忙了没选择。

  • @12347873
    @123478732 ай бұрын

    不生就没死的未来,没老病死及世间的苦海,火化的将来。

  • @jeejack3319
    @jeejack33192 ай бұрын

    是谁曾经讲过两个就够了!大家记得吗?

  • @Teolianchoo

    @Teolianchoo

    2 ай бұрын

    90年代,第三胎以上就会罚款。 而且数育费,只有优惠两个而已。

  • @queksiewkiau7726

    @queksiewkiau7726

    2 ай бұрын

    口号:一个就够了,两个刚刚好!

  • @chenghuisg
    @chenghuisgАй бұрын

    when living is so hard, cant even afford a HDB, how to support kids??

  • @NiKohLiau
    @NiKohLiau2 ай бұрын

    Sometimes is kids accompany parent and not parent accompany kids. Bring them to shopping or travel can bring us happiness

  • @tankman20064
    @tankman200642 ай бұрын

    2 citizenship. 这样生在外国。23岁后才来啦😂。学外劳。不是人多了啦😂。

  • @yiyifan
    @yiyifan2 ай бұрын

    那么压力,谁想在新加坡生孩子呢。我都已经为孩子在欧洲读书铺路了。

  • @Namewee4896

    @Namewee4896

    2 ай бұрын

    還沒香港與日本一半的壓力

  • @yiyifan

    @yiyifan

    2 ай бұрын

    @@Namewee4896 我干嘛要和世界最糟糕的国家比,这不是有病吗

  • @donnylimlin5348
    @donnylimlin53482 ай бұрын

    $640 is still unaffordable

  • @manlly9664
    @manlly96642 ай бұрын

    打针根本不算什么,这点都怕,最难是心理问题

  • @Humorousguy64
    @Humorousguy642 ай бұрын

    不生就是没家庭。很孤独就对了。何必结婚呢

  • @huinitay5201
    @huinitay52012 ай бұрын

    Cos expensive then non citizen no benefits at all

  • @raino1989ify
    @raino1989ify2 ай бұрын

    抛开那些顾虑高龄生子,经济条件差的那些不说,但是还是有很多年轻有经济条件和有能力抚养小孩的人不想生就是怕小孩会打扰他们高质量的二人生活罢了。在未来的10-20年新加坡有那么多孤独老人死在自己的家而没人知道的新闻只会越来越多罢了

  • @thelaoniang

    @thelaoniang

    2 ай бұрын

    没有问题 自己的选择啊☺️ 没有小孩 快乐了那么多年 晚年孤独终老那几年是我应得的😂

  • @thelaoniang

    @thelaoniang

    2 ай бұрын

    而且就算有小孩 劳心劳力+费钱照顾他们十几二十年 也不一定保证老了不会孤独终老啊 太多孩子把父母丢进养老院 一两年多没来看一次 养这种孩子 不如把钱存下来 以后我还可以自己入住高级养老resort 找人打打牌 游泳 看书 享受晚年生活🙂 哈哈

  • @jocelyncao9233

    @jocelyncao9233

    19 күн бұрын

    ​@@thelaoniang你去看看没有小孩的老人养老会是什么下场吧。美国有一部电影就是说这个的。

  • @hoongleetan1254
    @hoongleetan1254Ай бұрын

    到外國去生活,有更好的生小孩的條件吧。

  • @kaiweimama
    @kaiweimama2 ай бұрын

    如果产假6个月,baby bonus 15000,应该可以考虑要二胎😂

  • @seantan4702

    @seantan4702

    2 ай бұрын

    @jiayaocai

  • @Namewee4896

    @Namewee4896

    2 ай бұрын

    大馬產假6個月

  • @donnylimlin5348
    @donnylimlin53482 ай бұрын

    If U can't afford to raise kids , why need to care the country economic development?

  • @satoai2181
    @satoai21812 ай бұрын

    马艺宣不是马来西亚人吗

  • @qxz42113

    @qxz42113

    2 ай бұрын

    非常爱蹭热度

  • @RC-fe1jt
    @RC-fe1jt2 ай бұрын

    why not let single women to choose if they want to have babies or not...government should give the same funding to single women.

  • @Charmaine296
    @Charmaine2962 ай бұрын

    太贵了新加坡

  • @Humorousguy64
    @Humorousguy642 ай бұрын

    要不要生不需要听政府鼓励或国家。。。要完美的家庭就一定要孩子

  • @gongboshao9917
    @gongboshao99172 ай бұрын

    还是不生小孩 更幸福

  • @seantan4702
    @seantan47022 ай бұрын

    網上負面資訊太多了,嚇到了大部分人。 其實各有利弊與好壞。 擁有小孩是學習成長的一個過程。 那些被嚇傻的一群,懼怕麻煩懼怕負擔。 不覺得就是躺平一族的文化嗎?

  • @咸菜Choi

    @咸菜Choi

    2 ай бұрын

    他们没有躺平,他们在认真生活

  • @seantan4702

    @seantan4702

    2 ай бұрын

    @@咸菜Choi 认真的怕这怕那 😳

  • @咸菜Choi

    @咸菜Choi

    2 ай бұрын

    @@seantan4702 你真的有看影片嘛,那几个不想生育的女性都不断在提升自己,无论是学习 工作还是生活,这就是你理解的躺平一族吗

  • @seantan4702

    @seantan4702

    2 ай бұрын

    @@咸菜Choi 别急,我没针对这几位女性。也不分男女。核心问题是做工啥的也能计划。但是为啥不计划?怕麻烦?怕疼?怕负担?怕约束?怕负责?怕承担?都不怕,那是为什么呢?借口可以千千万万个,解决方法也可以哦。

  • @caligula4725
    @caligula47252 ай бұрын

    可以找外劳生,新加坡那么多

  • @Namewee4896

    @Namewee4896

    2 ай бұрын

    找雞籠生啊

  • @tobyc8668
    @tobyc86682 ай бұрын

    Ok now. who to blame for bringing in the rat race in this current era??

  • @ledinhdong7743
    @ledinhdong77432 ай бұрын

    讲还是说?

  • @hellbeckham
    @hellbeckham2 ай бұрын

    女人的錢就是好賺

  • @privateeye7559
    @privateeye75592 ай бұрын

    開放海外兵團進來。

  • @tankman20064
    @tankman200642 ай бұрын

    不用你40来生这样辛苦。外劳有人。

  • @HenneyToh
    @HenneyToh2 ай бұрын

    新加坡人要求高,以前的人一个月几百块就能养孩子买房。

  • @qw0048002

    @qw0048002

    2 ай бұрын

    是不是让孩子活着就可以了😂

  • @linhwang6651

    @linhwang6651

    2 ай бұрын

    馬來人依然生多吧。

  • @freddygomez3968

    @freddygomez3968

    2 ай бұрын

    也不纯粹是要求,你没听过通货膨胀吗?以前警察还穿短裤嘞

  • @popeyesailor1836

    @popeyesailor1836

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@qw0048002 婴儿时期:活着就可以了。儿童时期:无忧无虑就可以了。少年时期:学校的功课能交上去给老师,每天能见到心 仪的学妹学姐就可以了!青年时期:犯法的事不要做就可以了!

  • @tankman20064

    @tankman20064

    2 ай бұрын

    生多没钱生活。马来人也一样。😂😂😂😂😂

  • @user-fx8lj9pm4w
    @user-fx8lj9pm4wАй бұрын

    依桃,你有没有想过,如果你妈妈没有你,她离去的时候会多么凄凉。因为有了孩子,离开人世时有人办理后事,清明时有人惦记着。你周围的朋友现在看似带孩子辛苦,但老了以后你会看到他们的孩子有人挂念着,去医院复诊时有孩子带着,即使去了老人院周末也有人去看你。然而你和你老公却注定了会孤单两人,如果你丈夫先走了,就只有你一人。 不生孩子才是真正的不负责任。我问你,你老了谁养你?难道你想加重全新加坡人的负担吗?能生而不生的夫妻才是真正的不负责任。你害怕自己没办法把孩子带好,这根本是个借口和过度的担忧。我不相信,如果父母人品端正,能教出一个多坏的孩子。你现在享受的轻松,总有一天会变成你晚年的悔恨。

  • @moonstarsun633
    @moonstarsun6332 ай бұрын

    Govt turns blind eyes to the high cost living. Gst increase, FT come snatch rice bowl. So who's fault?!

  • @Humorousguy64

    @Humorousguy64

    2 ай бұрын

    If they can support new born till secondary 4 on school fees than maybe is fair

  • @jimw8615
    @jimw86152 ай бұрын

    Educated people think too much. I learn & receive more from my children than I give them. Having children is my blessing. Wat sacrifice u are talking about? Don’t be too self centred

  • @Humorousguy64

    @Humorousguy64

    2 ай бұрын

    Having children n produce a family is all are human nature ..why be a couple without family? Selfish thought

  • @user-ul8oj7ny1s
    @user-ul8oj7ny1s2 ай бұрын

    新加坡女人要为国家做出贡献,多生孩子。

  • @aichoontan3238

    @aichoontan3238

    2 ай бұрын

    请问,妳生了几个?

  • @popeyesailor1836

    @popeyesailor1836

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@aichoontan3238 我猜:最少三个!

  • @tankman20064

    @tankman20064

    2 ай бұрын

    生不出啦😂

  • @popeyesailor1836

    @popeyesailor1836

    2 ай бұрын

    @@tankman20064 三个够了!

  • @SHxxxxT

    @SHxxxxT

    2 ай бұрын

    国家又为新加坡女人做了什么。。

  • @davidzheng3700
    @davidzheng37002 ай бұрын

    Free housing for families with children, possible or not ?

  • @paulinesim2254

    @paulinesim2254

    2 ай бұрын

    作梦, 你以为生孩子怎么了不起mah😂😂😂

  • @Humorousguy64

    @Humorousguy64

    2 ай бұрын

    Tan gu gu

  • @jocelyncao9233

    @jocelyncao9233

    19 күн бұрын

    ​​@@paulinesim2254生孩子就是了不起,不生孩子人类50年become extinct。

  • @kevina2907
    @kevina29072 ай бұрын

    60 到 70年代, 一人做工养活7口人。不要给自己借口。不要生结婚干嘛?无子就是过。再不生,新加坡完了。

  • @user-or4jr4qj2t

    @user-or4jr4qj2t

    2 ай бұрын

    现代人讲究要培养高质量的孩子 生活成本那么高 有的人觉得没办法给孩子最好倒不如不生

  • @Namewee4896

    @Namewee4896

    2 ай бұрын

    你的懶叫有沒有幫忙生啊

  • @Hannahnanana

    @Hannahnanana

    2 ай бұрын

    @@user-or4jr4qj2t我觉得这个只是好听的借口而已。不生是因为想要自由,想要更高质量的生活。有了孩子就会被绑住,无论是精神、时间、金钱,都回不去单身的生活。

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