I don’t know how this monstrosity made it to market. Seriously though, looks like Homer Simpson made it for his brother.

@Alan.livingston

10 ай бұрын

With a face like that you’d want it to be cheap.

@CaspianSea-wt5kw

10 ай бұрын

I think it gets pass appearance laws that's why it look like this.

@christopherrobert92

10 ай бұрын

The hi points of Australian straight pulls 😂

@daz75au

5 ай бұрын

And what rifle have YOU ever made?..marge!!...

@Shyguy327

Ай бұрын

@@daz75au😂😂😂 you sound like one of Ron’s lackeys

One thing about it is if you run out of ammo you could use it as a club by swinging it by the barrel

@mcmxcau

2 ай бұрын

Haha I always say this 😂

Great to see Aussie innovation but some work is needed on the ergonomics and aesthetics, great review keep up the good work.

Just glad to see an Australian made firearm.

I held a heavy barrel at Ron’s up at Gympie….it’s solid alright, good on him for having a crack,…I don’t hate it 🙂👍

Great review, we have to remember that this is the first design and things will improve with honest reviews/feedback. Ron is I believe old school and comes from a time when things lasted and weren't throw away as many thing made today are hence "built like a tank".

@KipKil1igan

9 ай бұрын

A lot of things are "built like a tank" and aren't ugly af

I’m all for Aussie made but this looks like in the movie ‘Predator’ when predator finally takes off his mask to reveal his hideous face

Im glad to see another Ozzie made firearm. Its looks are not my cup of tea but good on them for giving it a go. Some tweaks and it can be a good alternate option.

Clicked faster than you can say “the AR can be bent over the knee”

Its a no for me.... but good to see aussie innovation kicking off

You might think it ugly, it is a bit scary though. If my corridor got invaded by Zombies or Wild Boars, in the bush, with a proper Tactical Sight it comes to sight at the right hight with correct eye sight height and relief, spot on, without looking all over, to place the dot correctly, saving time. Spot on for me. It might be fussy for the right ammo, but a 1in10 twist means heavier ammo can be used because of greater bullet bearing surface. I don't think it ugly. It looks just right for the scrub,l with it's short heavy barrell not catching branches, and in tight scrubby corners it'll knock of game, as your eye, when set up, correctly falls right on the dot and target. Suggest you use "Red Dot Tactical Sights" instead of Optical Target Scopes. Good shooting. :)

Looked to be a very reliable simple desighn, pit about the nerf quality stock, silly pattern, poor trigger, raised piccatinny, and chonky proportions. It would be very easy to vastly improve this firearm and i hope they take all of the constructive criticism on board. None of the Australian firearm manufacturers have got close to a 10 out of 10 i hope this changes soon.

Shoots like my Lithgow 223. Ugly as sin. I'd consider it just for the fella that made it. If he ends up doing a second model I'll seriously look at it then but since I'm in WA we probably wont have firearms for to much longer if the shooters over hear don't put in a bit of effort so I probably wont have to worry.

@jakesoros2376

10 ай бұрын

What's happening over there in WA?

@ckg1776

10 ай бұрын

@@jakesoros2376What isn’t happening.

@ilikesundays4312

10 ай бұрын

@@jakesoros2376 Majority Labor in both houses doing whatever they want. They don't like gun owners and the police minister has a special hatred for us. So much bullshit being spouted in the media that is very friendly to them that is being used to justify changes that will severely harm our ability to do what we love lawfully. And out of 90,000 shooters not many actually seem to care.

@eddx5758

9 ай бұрын

@@ilikesundays4312 the way this country is going with its attitude towards guns. They’re going to be outright banned within the next 10 years, and I hate how people in the gun community. Don’t even care about defending it I really wish our people in our country had the same stance on guns as people in 🇨🇭🇨🇿🇱🇹 do it it’s ridiculous how a person can’t even get a semi auto rifle like they can in those countries

Some of the things like the trigger guard I'd definitely agree could be improved as well as the mag release. The weight doesn't bother me but I've carried a full wood 303 plenty including running in the bush. In fact I'd go for heavy profile barrel even for big days in the bush. That's just me though.

The weird thing is there's no technical reason for the weird raised pic-rail on the receiver. (The castle-nut catch could easily be on the underside or at the side.) The chunky but tubular BCG is lower profile than a Warwick square-profile, or Taipan or Wedgie with a pump-rod, and of course there's no DI 'gas-key' or even AR-charging-handle as a reason to have it so awkwardly high and out of alignment with the forestock top pic-rail. At least get rid of the pointless dot-pattern (unless Ron's trying to be 'indiginous', it does nothing except trap mud) and at least cut some gripping-cuts in the equally pointlessly oversized magwell so you can grab the sides of the mag not just stress the floorplate.

Good video, the rifle is reminiscent of a proto-type. It seems robust in use and your criticisms are valid.

What in the California compliance

@RNA0ROGER

10 ай бұрын

Based on the lack of self loading it would be pretty easily compliant as are all manual loading firearms.

Just proves you can make anything with Lego

Pietown Represent ... please note also converts to a bong in 30secs.

Would love to see Ron and his team make a Genesis 2. Taking on all the constructive criticism. Ergonomics closer to that of an AR15 or AR10 would be a terrific improvement.

Very good mate

Lol went and brought this today. I got little hands so the trigger guard was fine and loved the heaviness to it . If you run out of ammo you can always beat down your target 😂

Yep still subscribed.

Not my style I’m a timber guy but great to see another Aussie made rifle 👍

Early days, give it time

I love the idea of the rifle but theres a giant list of changes I would like to see before I would even consider it. standard AR mags, larger trigger guard, Mlok instead of forced quad rail, Ambidexterity, less weight. It seems to be priced well at the very least, but I dont know who this rifle would suit.

Good to see Mr Owens designs again. ❤

I'm hearing the term "built like a tank" a lot with this rifle. Kinda glad the rifles I own are built more like rifles than tanks... on account of the lack of tank-like duties they need to perform. I get that it is built solid, but at the cost of such a high weight... i'll stick to other rifles. Great to see another Aussie made rifle, but I'm just not sure what market this on is aimed at. Too heavy for field shooters, not accurate enough for precision shooters (although that could possibly be improved with handloads). Pretty sure the tackicool crowd wouldn't go for it.

@AGRSSV1

10 ай бұрын

Yeah I don't understand the cringy driving over a rifle marketing. Being able to be driven over isn't a quality I look for in a rifle.

@dirtyfox5060

10 ай бұрын

If I want a rifle for precision shooting, I'll stick with my LA102.

@riki5848

10 ай бұрын

This is 100% spot on. I don't know what place in the market exists for this rifle. It's not going to be the first choice for field shooters as it's too heavy, it's not suitable for precision shooters due to the trigger /accuracy and the tactical crowd won't want it because of its inability to take pmags and its ergonomics. The only way I can see them successfully marketing it is maybe as a jack of all master of none for the rare person that wants to do a bit of everything but only wants one rifle.

It looks like a prototype of something intended to look more streamlined in final production, almost as though they gave up and just went with what they had. Maybe just a good bash up truck gun that won't break but time will tell. The price is definitely more realistic for what it is though. Oh and anyone that uses firearms in cold weather will hate it.

🇦🇺😎👍Great honest review

A nice idea but it really needs a bit of development work, as it is it looks like a bit of a Franken monster. If the whole bottom was redesigned to be more ergonomic and the handguard as you said was m-lok compatible I would seriously think about it.

Compared to Rons pistol, this is simply beautiful...

I bought one in 308. It is for target shooting so the weight for me is an advantage. It weighs a bit less than a M14 or SLR and with the left side cocking handle brings back many memories. I like that the mags are very cheap as in $40 odd rather than $200 each and there will be higher capacity ones available shortly I am told. I will also be buying the pump action conversion when it is released in a few months. I looked at the opposition in 308 and there were all 3-4 times the price. I remember the early AAAs and LD T2s were a bit weirdo looking too.

4,3 kg same weight as the SLR without magazine

@CJBrunt

10 ай бұрын

Yeah, that might be deliberate as some kind of misplaced Boomer nostalgia (and I'm a GenXer who carried one for 10years), but this is the same weight in a 16" .223cal.

They just need a bit of adjustments to design and a variant for nsw aswell as work on the accuracy on the rifle for other brands of ammo

G'day mate, good review. Could you do a review of the 'ATA Turqua' please. At just over $1000 it seems to offer a good entry point for people and good features as well. But hardly any talk about it. Would like to hear your opinions. Cheers.

Hey Ozzie, I reckon this one might pique your interest for a recommendation. PATRIOT ORDNANCE FACTORY TOMBSTONE 9MM.

I think the use MDT accuracy international magazine because it’s more designed as a target rifle and the magazine length on the AI mags is longer

I’m an MSR fan. I’m also a fan of things made in Australia. We don’t have enough of them and the fact that some states have an appearance law actually makes me a bit sad. However, that rifle needs so much shit shaved off it it’s ridiculous. The lower, what’s going on there, is it a billboard? The forend needs m-lok and to be extended to fit the barrel. Especially for the 16inch model. And that big square chunk hanging off the pistol grip back strap/ comb whatever… that would snap me in so many ways lugging it’s heavy arse out in the bush I’d be inclined to bury it if my hands weren’t covered in blisters. I’m sorry but that’s not a very appealing rifle. But yeah. It shoots, cool.

@TheKetamineSquid

10 ай бұрын

i'm fully with you there. saying that - this isn't anything like my style of firearm. i can't think of a time where i've ever shot more than 2 or 3 shots in a minute out of anything other than a rimfire, so i certainly can't see myself having any use for this. but then again, the rifles i like are wooden stock sporter barrel rifles with iron sights and fixed magazines, so i am a bit of a luddite in that sense.

@flatlander0151

10 ай бұрын

@@TheKetamineSquid I like them all personally. I appreciate all form of firearms. Even the ones we will never be allowed to have, but that’s cool. I’m old enough to appreciate how they look in books.

Ah, Looks like something you would find at your local BCF store, To throw under the wheels of your 4wd, when your bogged at the creek!. Ugh!

Looks goofy what with the large magazine well? Prob for 308 magazine?

@Alan.livingston

10 ай бұрын

That was my thought, so they can use the same blank for all the versions. Would look heaps better and weigh a bit less if they hogged out some of that excess material on the 223 version.

Imagine thinking that people will actually want to buy these things. I understand the restrictions that Australian manufacturer/shooters are operating under, but that thing is a disgrace. They won't sell even ten of them.

Leyland P76 much?

I work there at the gun shop

Good lord that is uglier than the taipan! I didn't even know that could be possible... 😐.

I would rather have an ugly gun that works then a pretty one that doesn't. Also weight is a sign of reliability, if you're out of ammo you can always hit him with it👍

@davesmith3304

10 ай бұрын

and the price that's a plus I am sure they will adapt the appearance etc to be more pretty in the future but reliability is more important

Schmidt & Bender scopes are absolutely brilliant, I have one mounted on a nice Austrian rifle that shoots nice tight groups, shame about Mr Owen's Enfield.. I was hoping he might give Lithgow a run for their money .

@TheKetamineSquid

10 ай бұрын

i have one on an Anshutz and it pairs really nicely with the rifle

@Shyguy327

10 ай бұрын

You are joking right ? Give lithgow a run for their money 😂😂

@TheKetamineSquid

10 ай бұрын

they're not even in the same market. one sells hunting rifles, the other sells tacticool straight pulls.@@Shyguy327

.The .223 or 5.56 is a nice round...but ANY 5.56 even my 5.6 x 50 magnum single shot benchrest sako L461 action runs like a bag of 5h1T...without handloading for accuracy...back in the "old days" when on 130,000acres and before martin and tasmania... a mini 14 was ALLOWED..with a 1 in 14 twist ...YOU need 82grn projectiles to get a 3 leaf clover at 100+...so im guessing groups were with a factory "style" ammo... its a nice rifle...congrads to ron..jase..terry and the boys after ALL the b/s they've been through...and while your in gympie at owens...go and check out rons museum....👍😁...

Wouldn't have been too bad if it didn't have that waffle iron sides.

I would put money on it Having that lower made like this is the only way to get it past most states scary AR look I had a WFA.1 here in Tas after 14 months they cancelled the registration for it & band it here just on the looks of it. At the time I spoke to the firearms board & was told if it was stolen or someone was walking around in public with it the police only have seconds to react so if they thought it was a semiautomatic they would shoot to kill. So to save anyone getting killed because it looks like an AR they just put all this type in the Appearance laws! Which I still think is crap because the registration of each firearm to the owner is easy to check on their systems if an issue come up🤷🏻‍♂️

@peterfoxall7723

9 ай бұрын

It may be just me, but it is slightly unnerving that the police would apparently decide whether or not they are “ shooting to kill” depending on what a gun looks like and not what exactly the person holding the gun is doing.. especially considering that I have had interactions with a few police where they couldn’t tell the difference between a bolt action rifle or a lever action rifle

It's OK as a prototype I guess...Not really sure that it can do anything better than many rifles that are lighter and better looking.

Looks good, nice rifle

Other than the show pony value this rifle may have I would rather a good bolt action any day.

Being Australian I wanted to like it, but too many negatives for me. The boomer style marketing and launch was so cringe.

seen the heavy barrel at a local dealer and it is built like a tank alright, way to heavy for this little duck.

So what you are saying is you want them to build an AR. 😊

everyone needs to remember this is a good rifle, that with a little work will become a bloody good rifle, and that is there plan, V2 WILL HAVE M-LOK, and be lighter more aerodynamic. I am waiting for the 223 to come out in the sporter profile, but have been told that, "that won't happen till the forend and pick rail and mount have changed". PS looks can all ways be changed

@ayrtonezzy7936

10 ай бұрын

where did you get this info?

@scottrat3537

10 ай бұрын

@@ayrtonezzy7936 the demo day/opening day, it was one of the first things i ask about the rifle. and got told straight away that there is a v2

@scottrat3537

10 ай бұрын

@@Shyguy327 just talking to the people that manufacture the rifle is all. Time will tell

@AGRSSV1

10 ай бұрын

So this is a prototype that they want the public to fund?

The rifle is deadlier when thrown at a home intruder than trying to shoot them with any other factory ammo.

Thanks Ozzie, appreciate you going to the effort of doing the review. I was looking at the Enfield, but it's one of the ugliest guns I have ever seen. It' also looks like it's a prototype and not quite finished. Thanks again, I will not be buying one, Cheers.

Why dont they make them button release... geez

@RNA0ROGER

10 ай бұрын

Mostly because the states and feds would ban hammer them because scary boomstick

@vermithan8198

10 ай бұрын

The UK tried that and they were quickly banned. The Australian government would probably do the same. Would be cool to see someone at least try.

@dustyarain

10 ай бұрын

chimera rifle 223

@RNA0ROGER

10 ай бұрын

@@vermithan8198 I have seen a few but they are more custom items than serial production.

@edwardd9702

10 ай бұрын

Something like a clone of the old HK SL6 but button release would be good. It was conventional looking wood and steel.

Where is it for sale?

@RonOwenGuns

10 ай бұрын

Owen Guns and many other local Gun shops not NSW at present.

@MrSiLenTb88

10 ай бұрын

@@RonOwenGuns thank you, I actually like it, it seems very robust

Did I actually hear half inch with PPU??? That's a 1 April spec comment.

@aynjeleyes

9 ай бұрын

Like all rifles they have there favorite I have been shooting ppu for years in my interarms 223 and mini howa I get half inch easy

@jeremymcadam7400

7 ай бұрын

PPU is actually very good, and very cheap

dear god

There is no way at all that a bloke with thick fingers is pulling that trigger! They ran out of space somewere in the design.

This almost seems like a prototype or something from the early 90's. If they could shave 2lbs off it and improve the looks it might be a winner.

Good to see more cheap Aussie made stuff like this. Pity it defeats the entire purpose of this style of weapon. The weight is unforgivable. What a piece of junk. Plus, man it is ugly

If I took her out on a date, I’d only pay my side of the bill.

Great review, wouldn't have the rifle if you paid me. Sad, but it looks like trash.

@dirtyfox5060

10 ай бұрын

Same here, it can't compete against my wfa. Cheapness can't beat quality.

Thumbs down for me, especially at that price. It’s the exact opposite of a CZ600 trail.

Not gonna be wearing gloves with this thing. Bit odd to not have a threaded muzzle and that inbuilt pic rail means no easy MBUS which is just odd (just make it a single rail and let people buy the rings they need). No MLOk or other modern rail mounts is all strange, seems like a gun design for like the late 80s. Hopefully if there's a Mk2 there can be some streamlining of that lower.

Damn I feel bad for Australians

🇦🇺😎👍Hey mate

Yeah... The aussie gun industry is in trouble if this is the "innovation"were bringing to market. Sorry boys, but why are we building another (uglier) warwick. If you wanted a straight pull, why not make something that fit a rem 700 footprint that was compatible with all the aftermarket chassis's and nice triggers.... that would have been cheaper, easier and and a home run. Worst case, why not use an AR style lower, and design your own upper. Go have a look at what Q is doing and see if you can out innovate them. Would love to support Aussie, but this isn't what the market wants.

utterly hideous. i wouldn't be seen in the same general vicinity as one. that being said, i'm a blued steel and walnut guy, so my judgement on all these new tacticool guns is the same - that being that i don't like them at all. still, great to see another Aussie made rifle and hopefully we can have some more Aussie companies in the future releasing rifles too.

What a dog of a thing...

Looks clunky

"Enfield" 🤦‍♂️

the stock was made in toilet... while taking a big dump

I get not everyone likes it, but if it was your life savings on the line, you'd also try and make it as unoffensive to the appearance laws as possible.

Like others said its great thatits Aussie, but by god is it ugly

Dear Aussie firearm makers, please stop with the wannabe AR style straight pulls for thousands and just make reliable bolt action rifles that aussies can buy. We cannot have semi autos so move on from making expensive copies. Make common calibre bolt actions with 5 and 10 round magazines with a rail installed and be done with it. Nothing against ozzie's review but there to many compromises with copying a design we can't own.

@user-gd7fx4jf5c

10 ай бұрын

💯 % agree fella 👍

@flatlander0151

10 ай бұрын

Dear Aussie firearm manufacturers. Please ignore this bloke. Sorry mate, but you don’t speak for all of us. Lithgow has you well and truely covered on the bolt action front

@RNA0ROGER

10 ай бұрын

We already have a wealth of guns that do exactly that like any gun on Earth. However the AR clones are subject to import restrictions hence why we have these local manufacturers.

@Alan.livingston

10 ай бұрын

Aussies can’t compete with high volume gun makers from overseas so their best chance at building at sustainable market is with niche rifles….. like AR clones for all the guys that like that sort of thing.

@bestestusername

10 ай бұрын

Well done to aussie firearms makers but with so many concentrating on a compromise this no good for Aussie shooters.

Stock looks garbage., mlok forend, cut the extra shit from the lower, flat rail and i would get it. Otherwise wtf

Since when has PPU been "quality ammunition"?

@ph4tboy

10 ай бұрын

I think it's actually good for a manufacturer to quote half MOA with budget ammo. Too many manufacturers quote half MOA only with the most elitist most expensive match grade ammo.

@HillsPatrolTD42

10 ай бұрын

@@ph4tboy yeah, fair point 👍 I just got the impression they/Ozzie were calling it quality ammo.

@jeremymcadam7400

7 ай бұрын

PPU shoots 1 MOA through my Ruger scout. I don't understand the hate

@HillsPatrolTD42

7 ай бұрын

@@jeremymcadam7400 well I didn't say that it is crap in EVERY rifle, I simply pointed out that it is NOT considered "quality" ammo by any stretch. I'm aware that some people have great results with it, but having worked in my LGS, I'm also well aware that probably 95/100 people have crap results and use it only for initial sighting/plinking/when other ammo isn't available, especially some of the older, harder to find calibres. No hate per se, just an observation. If you get good results, even better for you since PPU is just about the cheapest stuff around so you're saving money. Happy shooting.

Just because you can doesn’t mean you should…….

That's one bloody ugly rifle. Not a fan. Poor ergonomic design, the entire "lower" section is just clumsy. Great to see some new rifles to market here, but yeah, they've got to rethink this design.