Emulation Handhelds still cannot beat a DS Lite with an R4

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My first dive into handheld emulation was an R4 cartridge for the Nintendo DS Lite. All these years later, I still keep coming back to it.
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  • @WulffDen
    @WulffDen4 ай бұрын

    People in the comments are reminding me of something important I left out of the video: the "timebomb feature" some of the sketchier R4s have. This will prevent you from saving or sometimes even booting your R4 after a certain amount of time. This is not something that I've experienced, but it seems some of you have. There are ways to circumvent this, but I think the easiest one is to just wipe the MicroSD completely and just start with a fresh Firmware, like the TwilightMenu that I outlined in this video and linked in the description.

  • @appleua4807

    @appleua4807

    4 ай бұрын

    EDIT: (People have told me the DS lite does not have an SD slot, so none of this is valid. I assumed because the dsi had one the lite would as well) You can also just use an sd card and use twilight menu. Twilight menu also comes included with a lot of emulators for other devices. This also works with the newest update unlike some older r4 cards. You of course already know this. [the setup is a lot harder than using an r4, but if money or reliability is an issue this way is recommended]

  • @psychonauts0

    @psychonauts0

    4 ай бұрын

    As someone who used to be very well engrained in the Nintendo homebrewing community, said timebomb can literally be circumvented by setting back the clock on the DS, it does not do permanent damage to the console nor the flashcart itself, it just reads the date and if it's past a certain date is doesn't boot. Going for a third party launch is definitely the way to good to prevent it still, especially since the base launcher on a lot of these flashcarts tend to struggle to load games with heavier anti-piracy features. I remember back in 2017 or so I had a hell of a time finding a menu which was able to load one of the later Professor Layton games without triggering the anti-piracy.

  • @ChannelOfElveman

    @ChannelOfElveman

    4 ай бұрын

    These timebomb carts generally support RetroGameFan firmware though which naturally circumvents the timebomb

  • @persechini

    @persechini

    4 ай бұрын

    @@appleua4807 Came here for this comment. I don't know about DS/DS lite, but from the DSi onward at least you could set TWLmenu form the console sdcard and never worry about the R4. The R4 is only being used to launch TWL anyway, I don't think any guide even mention using factory firmware from the flashcarts

  • @JukeIndustries

    @JukeIndustries

    4 ай бұрын

    The BEST is the “New” 3DS (not xl) I have my R4 cartridge for DS. It’s modded with the H Shop with 256GB for the 3DS, and then I installed retro arch for full speed NES/SNES/GB/GBC/GBA/Game gear/Genesis games. You could even do more consoles in retroarch, I just don’t play anything else. That’s the ultimate build I personally have and the one I sell at my Etsy store. It has almost the exact same perfect form factor of the DS lite. The “time bomb”’is almost a non existent thing anymore. If you do have one it’s easy to remove. Edit :forgot to add in GBA under retro arch.

  • @a.b3762
    @a.b37624 ай бұрын

    The DS Lite still being able to perform this well over this many years makes us DS fans proud

  • @atomickid

    @atomickid

    4 ай бұрын

    What is funny about this is that the PSP is also still an emulation monster. In conclusion, this era of handhelds is still relevant all these years.

  • @orp5us

    @orp5us

    4 ай бұрын

    this comment is AI

  • @natalya_volochay

    @natalya_volochay

    4 ай бұрын

    I guess electronics like this, can work up to 100 years, if they kept in perfect condition. Nes was released in 1985, and they are still working. Its like the quality of product, that Nintendo was looking for

  • @BleakVision

    @BleakVision

    3 ай бұрын

    Even the original battery in mine still holds up. Like 4 hours in DS mode and 6 hours in GBA mode. More than enough for my average session.

  • @user-wk7jk5of4f

    @user-wk7jk5of4f

    3 ай бұрын

    @@natalya_volochay Yeah almost forgot that t the Nes is almost 40 years old

  • @timaaaahhhh
    @timaaaahhhh4 ай бұрын

    3:57 Factor spilled broken glass shards into many of their meals and tried to hide it from customers, only offering the bare minimum notice via email and we had to BEG for refunds.

  • @yoshimansxl

    @yoshimansxl

    4 ай бұрын

    Everyone upvote. Let it be known in mass.

  • @SlyAceZeta

    @SlyAceZeta

    4 ай бұрын

    Just to add, this was 2-3 years ago and was apparently the fault of their rice supplier, only affecting specific meals. That seems to have been the end of it, as I can't find anything about it in the two years since.

  • @TheFriskySquid

    @TheFriskySquid

    4 ай бұрын

    Factor also mass spammed advertising using AI and it was disgusting.

  • @timaaaahhhh

    @timaaaahhhh

    4 ай бұрын

    @@bananatoofat Um.. Bob is entertaining?

  • @MustacheMerlin

    @MustacheMerlin

    4 ай бұрын

    reminds me of how people are still advertising betterhelp even though they sell your therapy info to advertisers.

  • @SendFoodz
    @SendFoodz4 ай бұрын

    in college, when I didn't have a cellphone, I would turn on my DS Lite, and using AIM or MSN I would message my friends. this was BEFORE smartphones (Android /iPhone), it had an MP3 player I would play over AUX in my car. there's a world where Nintendo DS rather than the flip phone evolved into the modern smart device, it was already much closer to the goal.

  • @CyberDragon10K

    @CyberDragon10K

    4 ай бұрын

    Moonshell on CycloDS was my MP3 player during college/post-secondary. Loved rocking that.

  • @batmabel

    @batmabel

    4 ай бұрын

    I remember when my parents would take my notebook at night and I would spend HOURS chatting with my high school girlfriend through MSN on the DS lmao

  • @TheJarlath9

    @TheJarlath9

    4 ай бұрын

    the things i like about the ds is its reliable and just works

  • @adamkane7513

    @adamkane7513

    4 ай бұрын

    ​@@batmabel Talking to a girlfriend for hours? That's a simp's chore. Whilst you were talking to her she was likely taking another boy's jiz.

  • @plainoldpants3783

    @plainoldpants3783

    4 ай бұрын

    That's neat, but I think you're describing a DSi, not a DS Lite.

  • @Smithson52
    @Smithson524 ай бұрын

    I remember my Dad buying both my sister and I original R4 cards for our Nintendo DS Lites back in 2007. Thinking back it's crazy my dad found out about them. I still have it to this very day.

  • @robertg6339

    @robertg6339

    3 ай бұрын

    No time bomb?

  • @garburias

    @garburias

    3 ай бұрын

    ​@@robertg6339Time bomb only exists on the bootlegs R4.

  • @mckinleyostvig7135

    @mckinleyostvig7135

    3 ай бұрын

    Real R4s don't have time bombs ​@@robertg6339

  • @robertg6339

    @robertg6339

    3 ай бұрын

    @@garburias oh. Didn't know that. How can you tell if it's bootleg or not?

  • @garburias

    @garburias

    3 ай бұрын

    @@robertg6339 The labels, if it comes in plain colors (like black, white, etc.) then it's fake. If it comes in black label with grey circular pattern then it's a legit one.

  • @dottyorb
    @dottyorb4 ай бұрын

    From what I can remember the GBA CPU is used by DS games as a secondary CPU, but what you can't do is access the DS CPU from the GBA Slot, meaning that flashcarts and stuff that go in the bottom slot can only run GBA homebrew, whereas flashcarts in the top slot can run DS and GBA homebrew. Because the GBA CPU is used by DS games it had to be included in the 3DS so that it could play DS games, which is why GBA Virtual Console games on 3DS actually aren't emulated, which is why they don't support the features that other Virtual Console games on 3DS use - because they run natively.

  • @Flashcardsinfo

    @Flashcardsinfo

    4 ай бұрын

    The "GBA core" is used for stuff like I/O with DS games, yes. But DS games can't run GBA homebrew or games. The DS slot is too slow for that. Also, you can run DS software in some cases from GBA slot. Early DS hacking was done with a "hacked slot-1 device" (e.g. PassMe) or a custom firmware on DS and a GBA cartridge which was booted in DS mode. This feature is missing on modern GBA flashcarts.

  • @VeshSneaks

    @VeshSneaks

    4 ай бұрын

    @@Flashcardsinfoif I remember correctly (it’s been a while) there was also a method using the memory expansion for the DS web browser to load GBA games, because the extra RAM on the expansion was enough to load any GBA game and gave it full access to the GBA slot for the required speed. It’s been like 15 years since I messed around with a DS/R4 though. I should pull mine out…

  • @Flashcardsinfo

    @Flashcardsinfo

    4 ай бұрын

    @@VeshSneaks Possible. The DS Web browser RAM expansion has 8MB which would fit many games (but not all). But saving wouldn't be possible because the RAM expansion doesn't have hardware for that

  • @BrunodeSouzaLino

    @BrunodeSouzaLino

    4 ай бұрын

    They are emulated on the New 3DS though, which is a similar move between the first PS3 and the later PS3 models in regards to PS2 compatibility.

  • @Flashcardsinfo

    @Flashcardsinfo

    4 ай бұрын

    @@BrunodeSouzaLino You can emulate them on 3DS with mGBA, but you can also play them natively with VC injects or open agb firm. The 3DS CPU even has a GBA flashcart "baked in" to support the games

  • @404Fil
    @404Fil4 ай бұрын

    I think people forget the 2DS XL is a thing which is basically a 3DS without the 3D

  • @gabe5918

    @gabe5918

    3 ай бұрын

    Damn good console as well. I own 6 different 3ds’ of all the variations and stick to a purple 2ds xl because its sleek, light, and a solid middle ground between the New3ds and New3ds-xl.

  • @muckpuppy

    @muckpuppy

    3 ай бұрын

    i love my 2ds xl....i had a 3ds xl for years but even w the 3d off it was hard to play games for more than 40 min at a time without getting a migraine (i get them chronically)....i do not have that problem with the 2ds at all : ) cant tell you why but im very happy about it. it's also lighter and fits in my bag easier....just wish there had been some more colorways and accessories released before the line ended lol

  • @gabe5918

    @gabe5918

    3 ай бұрын

    @@muckpuppy Tbh the only gripe I got with the 2dsXL is the edges where your palms rest against it. Not many people talk about it but dang it does feel like it’s sloooooowly cutting into my hands.

  • @WorsePoke

    @WorsePoke

    3 ай бұрын

    I've been searching for an used 2ds XL, trust me, they know... Because I can't imagine them not knowing and putting 200$ USD as a price

  • @404Fil

    @404Fil

    3 ай бұрын

    @@WorsePoke yeah probably because alot of people don't have em so they get upcharged, some of my friends didn't even know it existed, If people knew about it there would be more available for resell then they'd be priced like $150 or $100 because that was the orignal price range when it came out. Supply and Demand my friend no one is selling a rare item for less than retail.

  • @Ice_2192
    @Ice_21924 ай бұрын

    R4 + Everdrive on an OG DS = Powerhouse

  • @mak_707

    @mak_707

    4 ай бұрын

    Diamond is unbreakable.

  • @anotherthing

    @anotherthing

    4 ай бұрын

    DSTWO + EZ Flash Omega DE = Big Powerhouse

  • @whisperingwooper1763

    @whisperingwooper1763

    4 ай бұрын

    Facts but instead an ez flash omega definitive edition now it’s perfect

  • @andrebrait

    @andrebrait

    4 ай бұрын

    Once upon a time there was the EZ-Flash 3in1. It's a mess to get working sometimes and it essentially requires you to use a 3rd party tool to get games into it (GBAExploader) but it works nicely and you can have it flush in the DSL.

  • @anotherthing

    @anotherthing

    4 ай бұрын

    @@whisperingwooper1763 That's what the DE stands for. "Definitive Edition".

  • @SumTr011
    @SumTr0114 ай бұрын

    I love my DS lite with R4 to this day. Something about the form factor, library of games, good battery life, and yes...nostalgia.

  • @liamwoods2090

    @liamwoods2090

    4 ай бұрын

    I know what you mean still got my R4 and lite...That clip noise when you close it 🤌😇✌️🖖

  • @azure315
    @azure3154 ай бұрын

    Personally, I think the New 3DS XL is the best handheld, VC injection makes older games run perfectly (except for some obscure gba games), and you can stick a r4 in there for ds games

  • @losttechwetlights7493

    @losttechwetlights7493

    4 ай бұрын

    I heard R4s for Ds is Iffy and difficult is that just half truths or our propaganda? I have seen a few for under $125 used and was tempted to try and make a handheld emulator with it for the kids

  • @captainharpoon

    @captainharpoon

    4 ай бұрын

    ​@@losttechwetlights7493If your 3ds is already hacked you can make any r4 cart work

  • @kchorro2012

    @kchorro2012

    4 ай бұрын

    ​@@losttechwetlights7493I bought the first one I saw for my New 3DS in like 2018 and it's still working like a charm to this day 👌Only the games with DS-exclusive accessories are somewhat incompatible (like Guitar Hero)

  • @TheMysteryDriver

    @TheMysteryDriver

    4 ай бұрын

    @@losttechwetlights7493a done card is like $8 or so on Ali. That's all you need.

  • @dragoon1090

    @dragoon1090

    4 ай бұрын

    You don't even need an r4 on a 3DS. Just use Twilight menu.

  • @dannewhall5256
    @dannewhall52564 ай бұрын

    I gave up on a lot of handheld emulation devices after modding a 3ds. Really the DS and 3DS are such great handhelds, I'm glad the still get the nod when it comes to emulating. Also the pink gold DS lite looks so nice

  • @Mazapan404

    @Mazapan404

    4 ай бұрын

    Personally, some SNES/GBA hacks are hit or miss on my New, but it works pretty good all things considered

  • @richardhunter9779
    @richardhunter97794 ай бұрын

    DSi is also worth considering. It can do all this stuff without having to buy flashkarts, just a regular SD card and a GBA BIOS will be fine.

  • @Joel-bt4tt

    @Joel-bt4tt

    4 ай бұрын

    I tried adding a GBA BIOS for Metroid Fusion and Zero Mission but they still wouldn’t work.

  • @MrGoldenfresh

    @MrGoldenfresh

    4 ай бұрын

    ​@@Joel-bt4ttthen you didn't do it right. It's literally a drag and drop into a folder.

  • @Flashcardsinfo

    @Flashcardsinfo

    4 ай бұрын

    GBA compatibility will be worse because it's not native. But yeah, the DSi is a really good console and I prefer the DSi screens and feel over the DS lite ones

  • @JordiumZ

    @JordiumZ

    4 ай бұрын

    @@Flashcardsinfo It is native actually if you use GBARUNNER2 on twilight menu the dsi just doesn't have a cart slot

  • @giuseppeciccotti7714

    @giuseppeciccotti7714

    4 ай бұрын

    even with the 3ds

  • @mememe37
    @mememe374 ай бұрын

    I've fixed like 20 DS Lites and yours has the best screen I've ever seen, no wonder you like this one so much.

  • @theryankruger
    @theryankruger4 ай бұрын

    I took my DSi out of my desk drawer a few weeks ago, bought a ten dollar micro sd card with an adapter, and loaded up twilight menu. Because it's apparently a little more powerful than the DS lite to support the camera, it runs everything pretty well! Just make sure your ROMs are clean. Edit: After a bit of finagling I was able to transfer my saves of stuff I had played on RetroArch on my laptop over as well. I'm just getting into this kind of stuff and was intimidated at the thought of having to buy a new handheld emulator/ second hand DS Lite plus R4 and flash carts simply due to cost, but it was SUPER easy to breathe new life into this console I've had since I was 8, and now I can play any game I could've wanted as a kid. And Rats! AND! I can revert back to normal DSi functionality and menu if I ever really want to. Literally the most painless mod you can imagine, if you can even call it a Mod. So, if you are like I was and have your childhood DSi hanging around and are feeling discouraged by the lack of GBA port, never fear! You too can emulate some great games! Would a 2DS like Bob suggested be better? Yeah, probably, it can do all this plus play 3DS games. Someday I will play MarioKart 7 or Samus Returns, and my life will have meaning again, but until that fateful day, I'll use my 10 dollar emulation box and be contented. If you've made it this far, thanks! This is really just a little 2am love letter to the DSi for coming in clutch and being a much needed distraction in during midterms at university. Now back to some Advance Wars

  • @RedBeerdN8

    @RedBeerdN8

    3 ай бұрын

    DSi is always my recommendation for first handheld softmod. Easy and VERY effective

  • @Danielsworlds
    @Danielsworlds4 ай бұрын

    I use a DS Lite with the EZ flash Omega in the Game Boy slot add an R4 in the DS slot and I can play every Nintendo game from the DS backwards

  • @grambottle033
    @grambottle0334 ай бұрын

    2:53 Dammit, Bob, I didn't need that kick to the gut.

  • @kinggoddavid5104

    @kinggoddavid5104

    4 ай бұрын

    Dam that did hurt

  • @kimkrimson

    @kimkrimson

    4 ай бұрын

    The GBA is 23 years old now... You're welcome 😢

  • @Swordie100

    @Swordie100

    3 ай бұрын

    @@kimkrimson*got an n64 when they released* Help

  • @DarkTyyp
    @DarkTyyp4 ай бұрын

    The DS is still one of the sleekest and sexiest consoles to ever exist. Still one of my favorite consoles

  • @AUGUSTIN-MUSIC

    @AUGUSTIN-MUSIC

    3 ай бұрын

    Facts

  • @floki2095

    @floki2095

    3 ай бұрын

    How ?

  • @AUGUSTIN-MUSIC

    @AUGUSTIN-MUSIC

    3 ай бұрын

    @@floki2095 cuz it’s sleek and sexy that’s how duhhh

  • @Rdott82

    @Rdott82

    3 ай бұрын

    ​@@AUGUSTIN-MUSIC😅

  • @AUGUSTIN-MUSIC

    @AUGUSTIN-MUSIC

    3 ай бұрын

    @@Rdott82 😉

  • @garrynorth6269
    @garrynorth62694 ай бұрын

    The R4 carts come with a built in time bomb that stops them working after a year or 2, simply change the clock on your DS back a few years and the R4 cart will work again.

  • @quarteratom

    @quarteratom

    3 ай бұрын

    Literally genocide.

  • @namesurname4666

    @namesurname4666

    3 ай бұрын

    this only happens to some ones, and in case you could change the firmware to ysmenu or similiar to remove the bomb

  • @Wavystarj

    @Wavystarj

    3 ай бұрын

    @namesurname4666 if you change it to the firmware bob used in the video will the timebomb thing be fixed?

  • @namesurname4666

    @namesurname4666

    3 ай бұрын

    @@Wavystarj yes

  • @mckinleyostvig7135

    @mckinleyostvig7135

    3 ай бұрын

    The actual R4 brand ones don't. But now it's pretty much impossible to tell if what you're buying is legit or not.

  • @laserbeamlightning
    @laserbeamlightning4 ай бұрын

    What a throwback. Having an R4 in 2007 was life changing

  • @ocell
    @ocell4 ай бұрын

    The DS Lite with an R4 was my first Nintendo handheld. I played the hell out of it. My house was burgled by some kids 10 years ago, and the DS is one of the things they took. I've always wanted to replace it, and now this video has me REALLY missing it. It really is a fantastic setup.

  • @dakotaaesoph
    @dakotaaesoph4 ай бұрын

    I just bought a GBA SP and swapped the shell, threw a USB C port on it (messed up taking off the old connector so no USB C audio, but oh well), put an IPS screen in it and man it really makes a huge difference. I would definitely recommend that over a Gameboy Micro

  • @bencaldwell746

    @bencaldwell746

    4 ай бұрын

    If you ripped the pads you can bypass them to the audio test pads and get audio working. Use some enameled wire.

  • @onyxosprey

    @onyxosprey

    3 ай бұрын

    That's a project I'd love to try someday, it sounds like fun.

  • @killzoneliberation

    @killzoneliberation

    3 ай бұрын

    Game boy micro is also crap.

  • @MadBrax
    @MadBrax4 ай бұрын

    I’ve got a DSI LL for my original DS games and a Black Friday N3DS for everything else. I am so happy with that pairing as I can play basically everything I want on there. For everything else? I’ve got a deck and my switch oled! So good!

  • @Burning-Embers
    @Burning-Embers4 ай бұрын

    After having played DS games on a 3DSXL, I got exactly this setup with an R4 and an EZFlash. It looks incredible and feels incredible to hold. There is also a gbaswitch file that you can install which gives you a button in your R4 menu to switch to the GBA slot. Some flashcarts require you to instantly boot to them, so it's really handy.

  • @gasdga
    @gasdga4 ай бұрын

    I love the R4, I was like 10 when I was using my DS Lite alot and my Dad felt bad for not wanting to buy me some games I wanted (understandably so, shit was expensive) and one day we came home from school to find out he out us a new "game" the R4. From then on buying games obviously was a non issue and he was happy to find games for us since we were still VERY new to navigating the internet. Probably the one of the best things he got for me and my brother, and it was the exact same R4 you're showing off. Never thought I was going to see it again lol, my old ones been lost to time and I sadly have no clue where my old DS is but it was a lot of fun while I had it. Thanks for reminding me of that cool piece of tech.

  • @probablybobi

    @probablybobi

    3 ай бұрын

    He's a good dad

  • @rotallyPumpered
    @rotallyPumpered4 ай бұрын

    I had an R4 back in the day, but gave it away after feeling guilty over stories about how piracy was hurting publisher relationships with Nintendo (GTA: Chinatown Wars was the big story I remember). I've been thinking about picking up another one for years. I can't justify paying those second-hand Kirby Superstar Ultra prices.

  • @gabe5918

    @gabe5918

    3 ай бұрын

    Cant hurt their feelings anymore lol. Just do it and have some fun!

  • @theshinken
    @theshinken4 ай бұрын

    R4 is nice, but I'm still glad I got a Supercard DSTWO. You can fluidly emulate DOS with a fast i386 in protected mode with the extra CPU and play the classics like Commander Keen. With the stylus, even Dune 2 controls surprisingly well. Not many other RTS on the DS so I loved that. The Neogeo Emulator also just works which is awesome. A Supercard DSTWO plus an overclocked GBA flashcard for extra RAM can run Quake 2! Quake 1 also looks way better this way.

  • @SomeSpicyCheese
    @SomeSpicyCheese4 ай бұрын

    The coincidence of this video coming out the same week I finally got around to modding my 3DS is not lost on me

  • @RainbowPigeon15
    @RainbowPigeon154 ай бұрын

    I recently got my r4 and I've been playing my nintendo ds daily for the past three weeks. It's great to finally play all those games I never got a chance to own

  • @acalthu
    @acalthu4 ай бұрын

    I have a white DS Lite with an R4i and EZ-Flash. An unbeatable combination. Also have a N3DS XL and 2DS, so the entire gamut is covered.

  • @remakeyourself
    @remakeyourself4 ай бұрын

    Dang dude, your story about how you got the DS Lite, what you played on it vs Emulation, the R4 Card... It's almost exactly my same experience with that device. Still have my DS Lite on the counter next to me - with the R4 card in!

  • @kalvin.
    @kalvin.4 ай бұрын

    This just brought back so many memories, and I have my 3DS XL and Gameboy Micro (which I didn’t realize is rare now??) still working

  • @shawnkichta7076
    @shawnkichta70764 ай бұрын

    Thanks man! I have one of those laying around in a drawer somewhere from my daughters. I will have to dig it out and give it a go.

  • @pokemonmasterlindsey5538
    @pokemonmasterlindsey55384 ай бұрын

    Love these videos when I’m at work, thanks Bob! It must be Thursday I have my Wulff Den hoodie on.

  • @MacRokunii
    @MacRokunii4 ай бұрын

    i remember learning about flashcarts when i was younger, and i ordered an Acekard 2i. it arrived the day before i left on a vacation so i was able to load it up with roms and play them during a long car ride that summer.

  • @willfultrain6779
    @willfultrain67793 ай бұрын

    Man, I wish I still had mine, I've got a dsi xl and a "new"3ds. I used to be really bad about the trade-in thing constantly getting rid of stuff for the "newer and more exciting" thing. Which I've come to realize was a mistake, so I've been trying to rebuild my collection.

  • @BigBaller226
    @BigBaller2264 ай бұрын

    I have a homebrew 3DS with H shop and an R4 with 300 DS games on it, perfect combo for the 3DS

  • @rehana545
    @rehana5454 ай бұрын

    I was born in 2005 and the ds lite was my first handheld which my parents only got me coz I kept nicking my sister's. Loved it to bits and still have it.

  • @zinkpopovitch9519
    @zinkpopovitch95194 ай бұрын

    I still have my SupercardDSTWO drains the battery like nothing else but worth every second

  • @keatonlovlyn2848
    @keatonlovlyn28484 ай бұрын

    A video of this quality perfectly reflects the quality of the original DS lite sir! Excellent work as always. Have a new 3ds xl and have been enjoying the heck out of all the titles I missed for that console…as well as the gba and snes. Working my way thru Zelda the minish cap atm and loving it. I do think I want to pick up a new 3DS original for the small form factor when I’m on the go. Plus I freaking love the 3D effects of the games that use it.

  • @luigimaster111
    @luigimaster1114 ай бұрын

    Note about the screen yellowing: It's just the digitizer, very cheap and easy to replace with modern repo parts, and something you can theoretically remove entirely on a gba macro build, might wamna replace it witha piece of similarly sized acrylic or glass to protect the lcd though.

  • @kyr0x
    @kyr0x4 ай бұрын

    3DS DOES have GBA hardware, it's only missing the gamecart slot, but it can run GBA games natively via VC injects or via open_agb_firm.

  • @majestyzx9081
    @majestyzx90814 ай бұрын

    It's kinda crazy with the advancement in dedicated emulation devices that the DS lite & PSP3k are still two of the best options.

  • @scottrutland3107
    @scottrutland31073 ай бұрын

    I have a golden retriever puppy and every time I feed her I mimic Bob's "ya hungry". So she got excited about the factor ad 😅

  • @rosie7032
    @rosie70324 ай бұрын

    i’d never done any emulation before finding your 2DS wedge short! i followed the set up video and now my ugly little doorstop plays all the old favorites i’d lost over the years 🥰 thanks!!

  • @Slamgod
    @Slamgod4 ай бұрын

    Still play my DS to this day. I have handheld emulators( geezus do I have handhelds ), but my DSi xl and R4 is one of the first units I reach for when taking multi day trips. When I want GBA, it’s the lite. You can’t beat ‘em!

  • @1Dudeon1bike
    @1Dudeon1bike4 ай бұрын

    Hey Bob! Miyoo mini can now run drastic emulator and NDS games! Just some slowdowns and hiccups but not bad at all!

  • @gbamck

    @gbamck

    4 ай бұрын

    Yup, came to say this. The OnionOS guys worked hard to get DraStic working on the Miyoo. Yeah, sure it's only one screen but it's workable for the majority of games and there are layout options.

  • @1Dudeon1bike

    @1Dudeon1bike

    4 ай бұрын

    @@gbamck trying to figure out my "save data cannot be accessed/ saved" error on some NDS games but some work fine

  • @johnsducks9816
    @johnsducks98163 ай бұрын

    My first experience with an R4 card was at ymca camp when I was 9 years old everyone always brought their ds and played Pokémon and Mario party together, one day one kid showed up with a loaded up r4 and we were all so amazed, the kid that had it used the built in cheats to get a bunch of shiny Pokémon and immediately became the most popular person in camp but the power got to him and he started charging people 1 dollar per shiny that kid made bank

  • @alexwstowers
    @alexwstowers4 ай бұрын

    With the r4 wood (probably others too), you can boot straight to the DS cart and it then lets you choose if you want to use the slot 1 (DS) or slot 2 (GBA) cart. This still bypasses the DS menu and you can also adjust stuff like brightness from the same boot menu

  • @Yamato09097
    @Yamato090974 ай бұрын

    I’ll be back when the ds lite can drink

  • @TechHouseVids

    @TechHouseVids

    4 ай бұрын

    In the eu it already can

  • @MannyDemaga
    @MannyDemaga4 ай бұрын

    Dude, the DS was my first console… you saying that is 18 years old hits extremely hard 💀

  • @braddahl2098
    @braddahl20984 ай бұрын

    100% agree its such a great system / factoring in it's flash cart options / real backwards compatibility. It was sweet getting my M3 real cart with plenty of life cycle still in the system during my college years. There was definitely no time bomb in that as it still works and with it's gba cart it came with runs the gba roms natively. I do find the OG DS a little more comfortable to use with it's trigger style.

  • @SirWiggy12
    @SirWiggy123 ай бұрын

    Just put Hshop on my New 3DS XL last week and I'm having more fun with it than I ever have. Well worth it, and thank you for bringing it to my attention!!!

  • @LITTLE1994
    @LITTLE1994Ай бұрын

    Emulation in general can never beat real hardware.

  • @NottJoeyOfficial
    @NottJoeyOfficial4 ай бұрын

    GBA Runner is running GBA games with the GBA hardware, it just does it through DS mode. It makes the DS mode access the GBA backwards compatibility. I would like to mention Twilight Menu. Twilight Menu is an amazing software for DS, DSi, and 3DS that lets you run many things. The thing it is best for in this case is that you can run DSiWare on a DS or DS Lite. It's amazing that this was able to be done, and I love it. This is why it works on DSi and 3DS as well. You're using it, but the features here are amazing and there was no mention of it in this video. DSiWare on those older DS consoles is really cool! Glad you enjoy your DS Lite and R4!

  • @myownbiggestfan
    @myownbiggestfan4 ай бұрын

    I bought my DS Lite in the brief time I lived in Tokyo. They had only recently come out and were in big demand and always sold out. We were in Akihabara one weekend and they just happened to have them in stock. I can't remember what the pirate system I bought at the time, but it required a GBA cartridge that had the SD card reader in it. I should dig it out of storage. I loved it.

  • @myownbiggestfan

    @myownbiggestfan

    4 ай бұрын

    EZ Flash! I should have waited until I finished the video before commenting.

  • @WillC1020
    @WillC10204 ай бұрын

    Interesting to see this video, a few weeks back I was cleaning out stuff in my attic and found my red and black DS lite with the same black R4 card. I decided to charge it and to my surprise, the battery is still in great shape despite owning it for many years

  • @christopherhughes8128
    @christopherhughes81284 ай бұрын

    I’ve lost count of how many times I’ve gifted a DSi + R4 combo. It rules. I’m excited because I only this week discovered the GBArunner2 you mentioned. Soon I’ll be loading up a bunch of GBA games on my micro sd.

  • @stephentruett
    @stephentruett4 ай бұрын

    Still can't believe there were ever believers in the lie that a New 3DS was required to play SNES games...

  • @mactep1

    @mactep1

    4 ай бұрын

    It kinda works, its a nice as a demo, but its not good.

  • @Austin70000

    @Austin70000

    4 ай бұрын

    Bruh Snes9X on 2ds/o3ds worked great. Never had any problems

  • @JD-fi4nk
    @JD-fi4nk4 ай бұрын

    The DS Lite was my first Nintendo handheld, and I bought it as an adult in my mid 20's to play Pokémon. I now own a 2DS XL, two Switches, a Steam Deck, and an RG35XX Plus. I guess you could say it was my gateway drug into handhelds and retro gaming in general.

  • @jamiecal11
    @jamiecal113 ай бұрын

    Miyoo Mini can play DS games btw. They added it like 6 months ago.

  • @TheScripflipNetwork
    @TheScripflipNetwork4 ай бұрын

    I can't believe how I just put one of these into my wishlist at about 10 dollars when you post this and possibly inflate their prices again 😂

  • @Umamis_Boy
    @Umamis_Boy4 ай бұрын

    Totally in agreement that the DS Lite is one of Nintendo’s greatest (if not the greatest) pieces of hardware they’ve ever made. I owned a PSP and DS lite at the same time back in middle school, and I only really look back at the DS with fondness. It’s experience is timeless.

  • @aesparza26
    @aesparza264 ай бұрын

    Cause of you, I went out and bought a 2ds xl and modded it. Now I have it all at my fingertips. But now I am thinking of getting a DSlite for strictly ds and gba gaming.

  • @Evercade_Effect
    @Evercade_Effect4 ай бұрын

    Thanks for going into great detail and explanations. This might me a good solution for me to get into DS and use my original GBA carts on a good screen.

  • @NiceMilkJugs
    @NiceMilkJugs4 ай бұрын

    i was 5 years old when the ds released. I am now 22 with a job with a ds in my back pack at all times. My ds lite was everything to me, still is til this day.

  • @lain328
    @lain3284 ай бұрын

    Goes over and picks up their DS that's been sitting for 5 plus years... You're still alive. (the battery)

  • @alextx1738
    @alextx17384 ай бұрын

    I’ve been playing Soul Silver on my 3DS but have another copy set up on my DS Lite with a messed up screen for trade evolutions. The colors on the DS lite look so much better with more contrast

  • @Zchordmaster
    @Zchordmaster4 ай бұрын

    I live for the "YAHUNGRY!?" yell in the factor ads. Cracks me up every time. 🤣

  • @ssj4922
    @ssj49224 ай бұрын

    I've owned many DS's from the Lite to the New 3DS but honestly, much of my nostalgic actually comes from the R4 cards and how I was able to play any game I want and more importantly, with any _cheats_ that I wanted. Sad to say though that many of them bricked and just didn't work after a while and not to mention the fact that Even if it did, for certain games like Pokémon it just wouldn't save I remembered the constant times I would be forced to restart my save file over and over until I was sick of it. The there was one game I completed on the R4 though, and it was Awakening, and considering it was my first Fire Emblem game, it definitely left an impression on me. Honestly seeing this video now unlocks all those memories for me and I kind of want to black dip my toe back into the r4 catalog. So yeah Wolfie, what do you suggest for me to buy then cuz while it makes more sense to buy a 3DS given you can play DS games and 3DS stuff but how much you went on about the impressiveness hardware of the DS Lite, I'm open to suggestions. The most important part though is what type of R4 I should get cuz given my experience with them and how flimsy they could be. I'm not too confident though last that long. So which card do you recommend and where do I buy it from?

  • @TheMysteryDriver

    @TheMysteryDriver

    4 ай бұрын

    Just set the date back. That's what bricks it

  • @WulffDen

    @WulffDen

    4 ай бұрын

    It sounds like what you experienced was the "time bomb" feature some R4's have. I think the easiest way to circumvent this is just to format the MicroSD and use the TwilightMenu firmware that I outlined in this video. That way you can be sure there's no sketchy stuff hiding in the firmware

  • @Andres-sp2go
    @Andres-sp2go4 ай бұрын

    I want a ringtone on my phone that goes YAAAHUNNGRRYYYYYYYY every time someone calls ...

  • @CyberDragon10K

    @CyberDragon10K

    4 ай бұрын

    Wouldn't that soundbite work better as a notification noise instead?

  • @margonautica
    @margonautica2 сағат бұрын

    i've been addicted to my hacked 3ds xl-- i just miss how sleek the ds lite was!! the pink ones make me so nostalgic

  • @godminnette2
    @godminnette24 ай бұрын

    When I was 10 or 11, I let one of my best friends borrow my DS Lite. It was the onyx black model. She lost it not too long after, and then we moved away. My brother eventually let me have his DS Lite, which he had gotten a few years after I had gotten my DS Lite. His had the red top and black bottom, but the plastic felt cheaper somehow - and the hinge broke shortly after I started using it for seemingly no reason. Soon after that the touch screen's inputs started to "drift," with everything being pushed horizontally from where I was actually touching. I still have that one to this day.

  • @SansINess53
    @SansINess533 ай бұрын

    I think the reason why ds is really good is because nintendo made the controls feel well but also be in a cooler design and be more flashy flashy in design as well. And because the cards actually had space.

  • @TheFallingFlamingo
    @TheFallingFlamingo4 ай бұрын

    Emulation handhelds and a DS Lite still can't beat my galaxy fold 4 with the USB-C Gamesir X2. DS and GB games are small enough file sizes that I can keep the entire console libraries on my phone and still have 300gb worth of space to fill with regular phone things.

  • @HUYI1

    @HUYI1

    4 ай бұрын

    yeah i still have the NES, SNES e.t.c on my fold 4 so i can play them when i'm bored while i'm on the go

  • @MetalJody1990

    @MetalJody1990

    4 ай бұрын

    I don't have an attachable controller for my phone, so I'm very limited on the genres that I can play comfortably. I just stick to pinball games such as Dragon's Fury.

  • @user-mv2wk6mx4n
    @user-mv2wk6mx4n4 ай бұрын

    I’m gonna dig up my DS Lite + R4 combo now! 😄

  • @JS-sv4ol
    @JS-sv4ol3 күн бұрын

    Bought a 3DS XL before they were retired after college - one of the best purchases I ever made. Recently got a 2DS to try home brew and worked amazing; I’m so happy to have access to a whole library I never would have dreamed of.

  • @elgarcia7307
    @elgarcia73073 ай бұрын

    The 2DS is Not Ugly 🤦🏻

  • @Mike-sp7zv

    @Mike-sp7zv

    2 ай бұрын

    The New 2ds xl isn't. The 2ds is.

  • @dragtogo2735

    @dragtogo2735

    Ай бұрын

    It's ugly like a non flipping screen Game & Watch that doesn't fit in your pocket better then a regular flipping screen DS that isn't a 2.

  • @Joner603

    @Joner603

    29 күн бұрын

    @@dragtogo2735 The widescreen game and watches look so much cleaner than the dual screen ones ✋😭

  • @dudefish80

    @dudefish80

    6 күн бұрын

    ⁠@@dragtogo2735 it's targeted towards kids and people on a budget. The removal of the hinge is for durability and to make it cheaper. It isn't made to fit in your pocket. Just like the Nintendo switch.

  • @jwill7998
    @jwill79984 ай бұрын

    A hacked 3DS is better.

  • @NoBody-qf5np

    @NoBody-qf5np

    2 ай бұрын

    Yeah but Nintendo can remotely brick those. A DS Lite is pretty much untouchable. At least to my understanding

  • @jwill7998

    @jwill7998

    2 ай бұрын

    @@NoBody-qf5np Not if you don't update the firmware

  • @NoBody-qf5np

    @NoBody-qf5np

    2 ай бұрын

    @@jwill7998 Yeah, but for a lot of people that requires regressing your device back to old firmware, and that's a whole process -- Not to mention, I've accidentally updated before, it's not unheard of. You're right, a hacked 3ds is generally better. But this is way more accessible, and just as fun (in my opinion)

  • @atlasthechamp82

    @atlasthechamp82

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@NoBody-qf5np Nintendo abandoned the 3ds so that isn't even an issue anymore. Even back then, nintendo only bricked devices that played games before their release date

  • @HyperSonic1999orJTH
    @HyperSonic1999orJTH3 ай бұрын

    I have a dsi xl and seeing gba on its screen is fantastic as it has perfect 2x integer scaling, meaning it can fill the majority of the screen with no stretching.

  • @MrPaulArens
    @MrPaulArens3 ай бұрын

    Rght there with you Wulff. I just happened to pull my DS Lite out from the bottom drawer a few weeks ago. A new stylus and battery and my old DSTT cart was up and running. I am using it for my commute and frequent business travel and it is great how portable the DS is when the Switch takes a whole compartment of my backpack. Playing Castlevania DS right now. Battery life is insane with a new 2000 milliamp-hour battery.

  • @jacobjude6319
    @jacobjude63194 ай бұрын

    I need that arcade machine you have in the background, I’d love to play my DS games on there

  • @GameJunctionMedia
    @GameJunctionMedia4 ай бұрын

    Appreciate the video! Big DS & 3DS fan and I’ve been wanting to grab the R4 Gold cart. I’m opting to go that route over collecting the physicals anymore (for now.)

  • @Eric-gv4di
    @Eric-gv4di3 ай бұрын

    I think this is what I’m gonna end up doing. I just found my old DS Lite and I had a conversation with one of my buddies who’s really into retro emulation and he told me I could use my Lite as an emulator. I didn’t believe him at first but it looks fairly simple and I’m gonna try it out. Thank you for the instructions on how to do so!

  • @glitchwolfe
    @glitchwolfe3 ай бұрын

    This video makes me kind of nostalgic because I'm pretty sure the DS was the first console I ever "modded" back in the day (first a failed paint job, then a reshell, then a flash cart). The cart I ended up with was an Acekard 2i, which thankfully works just fine on a 3DS. Honestly kind of jealous of that original R4 cart, I always loved the design of that label!

  • @awartskibenor
    @awartskibenor3 ай бұрын

    I dug out my dsi recently. After updating from Twilight v.19 to v.26, its so smooth and responsive. Im really enjoying playing on here again!

  • @lucarosas6927
    @lucarosas69274 ай бұрын

    ive always tought the same since i got my lite back at 2006,after very long time i got obsessed in getting one back to my hands and since that recent day i started buying all the other models to make a comparision. well i cant switch between the others, everything feels and look nice by the buttons antistress sensation to the good loking retro screen as you said, fit perfecly its games , as also i think likewise about the GBA games!thanks for your video, im glad to see i am not the only one having this odds analaysis of things (saind in a good way =) ) good job as always.

  • @0penthaughtz
    @0penthaughtz3 ай бұрын

    I already went down the R4 & EZ-flash route a long time ago, I highly recommend it. Also I remember the modding community making portable PS2's & what not...ahhh good times.

  • @ryuhoshu3303
    @ryuhoshu33034 ай бұрын

    This has been my preferred way to play Nintendo handheld games for years, the R4 and EZ Flash Omega combo is great, the screens are a bit small but because of the pixel density I love how the games look

  • @DavideNastri
    @DavideNastri4 ай бұрын

    I own a DSTWO and, while not perfect at all, emulation on ds is quite nice indeed.

  • @margarinedolby
    @margarinedolby4 ай бұрын

    The miyoo mini can play DS with Drastic!

  • @KazyEXE
    @KazyEXE4 ай бұрын

    Loved my DS Lite + R4 + m3 back in the day.

  • @poncho1650
    @poncho16504 ай бұрын

    Yup what I did was bought the AliExpress r4 card and got an ez flash for my black and gold Zelda ds lite

  • @meatpockets
    @meatpockets4 ай бұрын

    @WulffDen can you recommend a replacement battery for the DS Lite?

  • @ArichDKC
    @ArichDKC2 ай бұрын

    I got an R4 in 2008, the same original you were showing off. It was my favorite thing for quite some time, between trying out tons of new DS games, various homebrew applications, making my own custom R4 skins, and more -- it was a blast. I even eventually sought out physical copies of games I originally tried on R4 (Electroplankton and Clubhouse Games for example). I loved the emulators; I originally played EarthBound on it through SNES emulation. I loved it so much it became my favorite game of all-time. Less than 2 months after playing EarthBound I got the original cartridge for free from a friend--and it's all thanks to the R4. I got it early on in my senior year of high school and it made the year really memorable, played so many multiplayer games with friends. I remember being paranoid that the R4 was perhaps fake, and I was able to verify it was authentic. I don't have the R4 anymore. I gave it away in 2014 to a friend. There were many DS games he wanted to play that he never got a chance to, and I knew it was time to give it to someone who would use it more than I would. No regrets--it's a cool thing to have and a piece of history for sure, but I know in my heart it's being taken care of. Sorry for the rambling lol

  • @rubberduck2216
    @rubberduck22162 ай бұрын

    I like how you have heartgold running in the background on arcade. Thats awesome would love video on that and how it works

  • @jugghead82
    @jugghead82Ай бұрын

    Cool Vid I got a DSi XL don't have a R4 but I was able to mod mines with a Mirco sd card amazing stuff

  • @surrealchemist
    @surrealchemist4 ай бұрын

    The way it folds up and feels is just so satisfying. I had the original DS and traded up to the lite and still bring it out every now and again. I got a modded GBA with backlit screen but still would go back to DS Lite. I have a low profile GBA flash cart in the one slot and an r4 in the other.

  • @songsan807
    @songsan8073 ай бұрын

    Got a DS Lite for each of my kids when they were young for each of their birthdays. Got myself one too and did got an R4 chip to put some games in there to play. Super easy to do and give you something to play the nes games that I enjoyed while at the beach during that time. Still have a few broken DS Lite from some garage sale so might just get new batteries for them and see if can find some R4 chips for them.

  • @misssarabunnie
    @misssarabunnieАй бұрын

    you can put an ez flash pak in the gba slot and there was a function inside r4 (or it was a homebrew, i dont remember its been 10+ years) that copies the gba rom onto the ezflash from within the r4 menu. that gba rom was thenn permanently on the ezflash and even ran on actual gba. there was a ds lite sized version of the ez flash that didnt stick out of the ds lite. and that homebrew

  • @edrsa
    @edrsa4 ай бұрын

    I still have DSi, and recently softmodded it (instead of using flashcarts). Its so nice now. Twilight++

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