The emulation scene has been fantastic the last few years. HNG64, Jag, Saturn, and even Xbox have come such a long way.

@VideoGameEsoterica

Жыл бұрын

Fingers crossed in a few more years they will be near 1:1 with real hardware

@devilmingy

Жыл бұрын

@@VideoGameEsoterica Probably just a matter of time. The HNG64 is a woefully underlooked platform, and it’s not like SNK is eager to remind folks of its legacy.

@VideoGameEsoterica

Жыл бұрын

SNK pretends the Hyper never existed

@Jabjabs

Жыл бұрын

It has been great seeing all these things come along. I just completed Jet Set Radio Future via emulation - in HD it is glorious! It only took 21 years but we finally got there! :D

@VideoGameEsoterica

Жыл бұрын

Emulation has been blowing up the last few years it seems

Thanks to the developers of this: David Haywood (mamehaze), Angelo Salese (Kale), ElSemi and Andrew Gardner (AJG). This video is great and may help them troubleshoot the emulation bugs. Would be nice to give them a tip show appreciation, but very few mame developers have patreon or the like.

@VideoGameEsoterica

Жыл бұрын

I always offer up source captures of games running on real hardware so they can compare their emulation against the silicon

I remember Jeff Ferrier purchased all the old stock of Hyper64 boards and games and also programmed some new neo-geo games, I don’t think they were all released.

@VideoGameEsoterica

Жыл бұрын

I’ve heard all sorts of tales of people buying up large stocks of hardware for sure

I lived in Japan in the late '90s and these things were really common in the arcade, everybody had Buriki One, which I still can't wrap my head around. I always thought these games would be a shoe-in for Dreamcast ports, but it never happened, and I was always pretty disappointed with the PlayStation port of Fatal Fury. I always assumed the hardware was too obscure to be emulated properly, so seeing this running is an absolute delight.

@VideoGameEsoterica

Жыл бұрын

I love Buriki One. No fighting game has ever given me the same sense of “hit impact” as that game. You hammer on the stick and when a strike hits you just feel it. Agreed. FF:WA port is sad

@airthrowDBT

Жыл бұрын

Yooooo

Thanks for the video and I just love the HNG64 graphics.

@VideoGameEsoterica

Жыл бұрын

Me too. Total 90s jank. Just how I love it

Oooooo!!! Hyper NeoGeo content! This is what originally brought me to the channel!

@VideoGameEsoterica

Жыл бұрын

I am semi-revisiting the Hyper. Probably do a big long video (like 30 minutes) like I did for FM Towns Marty in December soon

@pinkphilmingo6032

Жыл бұрын

Nice! Looking forward to it!

@VideoGameEsoterica

Жыл бұрын

Should be fun! Except the getting it all out of my PCB closet portion. That’s never fun

Such an obscure but nice system! Well done!

@VideoGameEsoterica

Жыл бұрын

Thanks. I do love the Hyper

Great vid :)

@VideoGameEsoterica

Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed!

Buriki One really did change my mind about the platform.

@VideoGameEsoterica

Жыл бұрын

I TOLD YOU!

@dorfus

Жыл бұрын

@@VideoGameEsoterica you were wrong about CRTs though

I would say that the lighting on the MAME versions is way better than the original. Way more dynamic. I also love that in RV Racer, the front wheels actually move in the way that they would in real life. So many racing games just had the cars skid and move in such unrealistic ways. This is not to say that it is perfect here but so much better then other 'classic' racers.

@VideoGameEsoterica

Жыл бұрын

Capturing Hyper stuff isn’t the easiest thing due to the hardware / my capture setup. Issues MAME won’t have

I turn on my hyper 64 some days ago. Not a lot of games... but a lot of fun

@VideoGameEsoterica

Жыл бұрын

Seriously...I never NOT have fun with my Hyper collection

@madhatter5475

Жыл бұрын

@@VideoGameEsoterica for me it s different. Because probably j play with friends. And every time we like playing fighiting togheter like every other game like street fighter or similar. But if i ve to admit in the arcade cab i always play final fight and metal slug (original version) and... there is no game like this on 64

superb video, you did a great job :) I really like the look of Offbeat Racer and Beast Busters, but i can't buy the hardware, so will be keeping a keen eye on the state of emulation moving forward. Would be great to see some other hardware/emulation in the same style

@VideoGameEsoterica

Жыл бұрын

Lol would you believe someone has created four accounts this morning to scream at me saying this video is “clickbait”? I mean how much harder could I have delivered on what the title promises? 😂

@gravious

Жыл бұрын

@@VideoGameEsoterica nah, you knocked it out of the park, great stuff.

@VideoGameEsoterica

Жыл бұрын

Haha some people just love to be angry

@VideoGameEsoterica

Жыл бұрын

And like clockwork my weekly “angered someone enough for them to send me an email threatening my safety” email has arrived 🤷🏻‍♂️ people just don’t like the Hyper Neo Geo I guess

I love how hyper neo geo 64 looks. Glad to see so many games are playable enough for people to experience them. I'm sure in no time at all emulation for the system will be perfect.

@VideoGameEsoterica

Жыл бұрын

I am glad too. Now nobody has an excuse as to why they haven’t played Beast Busters: Second Nightmare

@airthrowDBT

Жыл бұрын

HNG64 looks like the inside of a nuclear suitcase lol

I love the chunky poly look of 90s 3D.

@VideoGameEsoterica

Жыл бұрын

Me too. Because we grew up with it

I always felt bad for the Hyper Neo Geo 64 VGE. This piece certainly had potential to be something great. But it just too little too late. If SNK introduced it 4 years prior, then it might have help SNK overall. Also, thank you for sharing this with on the Neo-Geo thread VGE. We really enjoyed it. 8^) Anthony..

@VideoGameEsoterica

Жыл бұрын

If it came out in late 95/early 96 it would have been impressive. But when Sega had Model 3 and Namco had System 22/23…it just looked old

I'll give theses a try later, Beast Busters looks fun and I've always wanted to play the Samurai Showdown games, I've played Wild Ambition on Playstation but I'm interested how well it compares to the arcade

@VideoGameEsoterica

Жыл бұрын

Wild Ambition on PS1 pales in comparison to Hyper Neo Geo sadly

@chiefthunderhorse4430

Жыл бұрын

@@VideoGameEsoterica That makes me want to play it even more, I actually like Wild Ambition though it's far from the best Fatal Fury game

@VideoGameEsoterica

Жыл бұрын

It’s a really good game on Hyper

The latest version of MAME seems to fix some of the issues. As you said, there are still audio issues with the Hyper Neo Geo 64 games. Yes, the games are marked as non-working, but most of the games are surprisingly it's playable from start to finish. 0.252 mentioned HNGeo64 improvements so that's why I wanted to test the games

@VideoGameEsoterica

Жыл бұрын

Yes at some point in time I will revisit this video. The changes are in progress so I will wait a bit :)

@arcadeguy781

Жыл бұрын

@@VideoGameEsoterica sounds good

@VideoGameEsoterica

Жыл бұрын

But you will be seeing more Hyper Neo Geo soon!

Very nice. Mame 252 brings some significant graphics improvements on the Hyper Neo Geo 64 \o/ No more pink tires or flashing geometry (almost … still some rare instances) in Xtreme Rally or Roads Edge.

@VideoGameEsoterica

Жыл бұрын

I will be updating the video shortly :)

I actually played a HNG64 title in the wild: The Kingdome in Seattle before getting torn down had a sitdown cab of Road's Edge, I thought the graphics were really nice at the time and I wondered why it looked so much better than N"64" at home haha (I knew they were different platforms) Later on I did own a HNG64 and a copy of Sam Sho 64, but I just couldn't have fun with it honestly. Still have not played Buriki One.

@VideoGameEsoterica

Жыл бұрын

Fun you saw a cab in the wild. Not common at all

Dang, it's easy to forget that early 3D arcade hardware looks really good after playing the console ports for a while.

@VideoGameEsoterica

Жыл бұрын

Yes arcades had consoles beat until the Dreamcast era

@ArthurKannibal

Жыл бұрын

Yeah Dreamcast gave us so much we took for granted besides finally providing the real arcade experience at home.

@VideoGameEsoterica

Жыл бұрын

Dreamcast and NAOMI were so close to par it was wild

@ArthurKannibal

Жыл бұрын

SoulCalibur on Dreamcast is still the most impressive game to show what the hardware could do.

@VideoGameEsoterica

Жыл бұрын

100%

Fun fact : Samurai Shodown 64 and Samurai Shodown 2 on Neo Geo Pocket Color share the same plot when playing single player.

@VideoGameEsoterica

Жыл бұрын

I missed that. Fun fact

Do you have any programming and development advice for this system? IS there anything that was used to do it? What info do we have on development on this arcade? N64 Development?

@VideoGameEsoterica

Жыл бұрын

Zero dev info is available. No SDK. No dev kits. We really know nothing of the process

@valentine_puppy

Жыл бұрын

@@VideoGameEsoterica Okay, then my second question is, what is being done about that? Is there somebody working on that? People who know people who knows a guy at SNK? Dig in the basement at SNK to find a box. I am like you, I want to see this be preserved and one of the best ways is to make new games for it. Right? Anyway, thank you so much. Great videos.

@VideoGameEsoterica

Жыл бұрын

To my knowledge; nothing. Nobody is pursuing it

@valentine_puppy

Жыл бұрын

@@VideoGameEsoterica What do you think of the idea of someone starting?

@VideoGameEsoterica

Жыл бұрын

I think I don’t have those skills. I am not a coder. I only deal in the hardware side of things. I think it’s a fun idea but my coding skills are garbage

Poor SNK. This board was what, a year too late? If this was 1995 or even 1996 this would have had so much ore support. 97 was just a little too late. It was dated on release.

@VideoGameEsoterica

Жыл бұрын

SNK was just so new to 3D development it probably took them too long to learn how to make games on the hardware

Very cool to have it o mame. Do you think that now that SNK is own by a saudi, new 3d gmes will be launched by them?

@VideoGameEsoterica

Жыл бұрын

Zero clue what their plans are

@miguelcarneiro1192

Жыл бұрын

@@VideoGameEsoterica i hope they have good ideas

@VideoGameEsoterica

Жыл бұрын

Me too

You can tell what is happening in the game and it doesn't crash. As far as I am concerned that is a major win for an emulator! HNG64 is also simultaneously has it easier and harder. Easier in that there is only 7 titles they need to get working. Difficult because it is such an obscure piece of hardware with a limited amount of software to understand it via. Really a double edged sword here. But it is in a state far better than I would have ever expected. It would be the same with emulation of M2 - it could be a single sprite and it would already be a big achievement.

@VideoGameEsoterica

Жыл бұрын

Yes considering hardware with more games and popularity (Konami Viper) barely emulate at all

the real hardware capture being so dark is very odd, it almost looks like the luma values are borked. Does it look that dark when you're playing it?

@VideoGameEsoterica

Жыл бұрын

It requires a monitor that has a bright image. During capture its a bit darker. Just part of how the hardware works

@ImmortalGodEmperor

Жыл бұрын

@@VideoGameEsoterica ah interesting, I'm guessing that MAME is grabbing a raw digital image directly from the frame buffer, and there's some kind of signal processing then that happens before the image is sent out for display on real hardware. Great video as always btw, before you I barely knew anything about Hyper NeoGeo 64 games beyond there were Samurai Spirit games on it, not a lot of people cover it so thank you!

@VideoGameEsoterica

Жыл бұрын

Happy to cover it. It deserves love.

the darkness on the hardware seems a bit arbitrary like maybe there's a pot to be adjusted somewhere or something that would be changed in the monitor settings after the fact.

@VideoGameEsoterica

Жыл бұрын

Possibly on the arcade monitor / something else internal to a hyper cab

It wasn't quite there last I tried which wasn't that long ago. Maybe in a few mame versions it'll get there.

@VideoGameEsoterica

Жыл бұрын

It’s like 70% there IMO

@PopeTheRevXXVIII

Жыл бұрын

The Shodowns have improved since I tried it at least

@VideoGameEsoterica

Жыл бұрын

Beast Busters was the most notably improved to me

Is possible that any of the Game have working sound? I tried in .251 mame and have that problem

@VideoGameEsoterica

Жыл бұрын

No. Sound is just bad / missing

@JuanMotta

Жыл бұрын

@@VideoGameEsoterica ok thank

@VideoGameEsoterica

Жыл бұрын

👍

I think it's safe to say that the Hyper Neo Geo 64 isn't going to be emulated properly in MAME anytime soon(still impressive though). The hardware is an absolute nightmare and I think it's one of the reasons why SNK went bankrupt. I can't imagine how much money SNK put into making this thing, only for it to fail. Also regarding the sound emulation, pretty sure it's because the sound ROMs aren't dumped correctly, hard to tell cause sound emulation is so picky.

@VideoGameEsoterica

Жыл бұрын

The board is a mess of custom chips. SNK took the easy route with an off the shelf CPU…then the impossible route of custom 2D and 3D hardware on a smorgasbords of custom silicon

@fungi6612

Жыл бұрын

Comparison videos like these also help MAME devs.

@VideoGameEsoterica

Жыл бұрын

Yes I always keep the raw captures in case anyone needs them

I know it's sudden but would you be willing to talk about the igs pgm 2 it's got some gems of the beat em up genre knights of valour 3 a full on action rpg arcade beat em up hybrid WAY MORE IN DEPTH THAN D&D SHADOW OF MYSTARIA a fun version of oriental legend higher detail pixel art than the pgm 1 a Taiwanese exclusive version of ddpdoj that's in-between black and white label

@VideoGameEsoterica

Жыл бұрын

At some point I’ll do PGM 2 :)

how do i emulate HNG 64?

@VideoGameEsoterica

5 ай бұрын

MAME current

How about the PSX ports?

@VideoGameEsoterica

Жыл бұрын

There is just one. The samurai Shodown game with the same name…is a diff game. Confusing but true

@DavidGarcia-qf7gc

Жыл бұрын

@@VideoGameEsoterica I think I've played Wild Ambition too, but I cannot compare to original hardware.

@VideoGameEsoterica

Жыл бұрын

Wild Ambition was an iffy port

Ah yes SNK, the kings of 2D. I think I'll leave it at that.

@VideoGameEsoterica

Жыл бұрын

lolol...but the 2D backgrounds in Fatal Fury: Wild Ambition!

Ha ha, wow that is a lot of blood in Beast Busters. 😅

@VideoGameEsoterica

Жыл бұрын

They go hard with the zombie gore and I love it

@METR0lD

Жыл бұрын

@@VideoGameEsoterica The new remake of House of the Dead actually did a pretty good job with the gore as well. It's way more gore than the original arcade version.

@VideoGameEsoterica

Жыл бұрын

That’s…the only thing they did right IMO lol

What about Metal Slug

@VideoGameEsoterica

Жыл бұрын

What about it?

@watercat1248

Жыл бұрын

​@@VideoGameEsoterica it's technically i neo geo game but it's 2D game not 3D game what is the best way to experience this game on PC mame or this hyper neo geo ? that i don't even understand what it's to be honest

@VideoGameEsoterica

Жыл бұрын

Final Burn Neo. You can’t play it on the Hyper

the sound needs to be improved

@VideoGameEsoterica

Жыл бұрын

Mai is that you?

@jodyposey9558

Жыл бұрын

@@VideoGameEsoterica I would love to see you do an MAME vs Real Hardware video with the Konami GTI Club, Konami NWK-TR, Konami Hornet and Konami Viper games!

@VideoGameEsoterica

Жыл бұрын

I literally have a Viper in front of my camera now. Are you looking over my shoulder?! One day. I still have repair work and controller modding to do before I can capture anything.

if only i could play beast busters 2 on steam deck smh

@VideoGameEsoterica

8 ай бұрын

You can. Just not 100%

"on duct tape and wishes" lmao

@VideoGameEsoterica

Жыл бұрын

It’s an engineering philosophy lol

@cheater00

Жыл бұрын

@@VideoGameEsoterica for many, it's a way of life

@VideoGameEsoterica

Жыл бұрын

I mean I taught myself electrical engineering and arcade repair so…if it works it works!

@cheater00

Жыл бұрын

@@VideoGameEsoterica same! haha

@VideoGameEsoterica

Жыл бұрын

I mean I’ve repaired two boards this week so duct tape and wishes works

Have you seen the recent updates to the platform on MAME?

@VideoGameEsoterica

Жыл бұрын

I have. Some nice improvements

In the end, hgng64 is just a little bit more powerful than Ps1. Fatal Fury Wild Ambition is ported to Ps1 and its as good as the arcade one. Still we need it ofcourse perfectly emulated and unfortunately its emulation progress is very slow all these years, few really care about it :(

@VideoGameEsoterica

Жыл бұрын

Oh it is def not as good IMO. It’s an inferior port

@vasileios6301

Жыл бұрын

@@VideoGameEsoterica In terms of what inferior, other than the somewhat lower resolution?

@VideoGameEsoterica

Жыл бұрын

Lower frame rate too

@vasileios6301

Жыл бұрын

@@VideoGameEsoterica Well, cant remember that difference :)

@VideoGameEsoterica

Жыл бұрын

Haha if you play them side by side for a comparison video you’d be able to tell. Which means basically just I know 😂

aint no way we have HYPER NEO GEO 64 EMULATION NOW???? ive been wasting days trying to even find a buriki one rom online and now i hear this platform is somewhat emulatable... what do i have to do??

@VideoGameEsoterica

Жыл бұрын

You can join my discord if you need help

@dalelumina3

Жыл бұрын

@@VideoGameEsoterica ....can you help a mobile emulation scrub like me tho? i have no pc

@VideoGameEsoterica

Жыл бұрын

Oh that’s a diff story lol as I don’t know much at all about that end of things

@dalelumina3

Жыл бұрын

@@VideoGameEsoterica as far as i know mame on mobile isnt all that different to mame on pc, the only issue i have is setting it up i dont know which build of mame can emulate hng64 though and i have no idea where to find roms for that system either

@VideoGameEsoterica

Жыл бұрын

If you need help with that then yeah. Discord

I have never been able to get the games to run properly on mame even with the proper bios and everything.

@VideoGameEsoterica

Жыл бұрын

Odd. What isn’t working?

@xxthecreativekitsunexx7966

Жыл бұрын

@@VideoGameEsoterica It may be that I am trying to use mame64 version 0.251 and even with the neo geo 64 bios nothing runs.

@VideoGameEsoterica

Жыл бұрын

I used .250 and everything was fine

@xxthecreativekitsunexx7966

Жыл бұрын

I tried various emulators and got Wild Ambition to SOMEWHAT work.

@VideoGameEsoterica

Жыл бұрын

Somewhat is about how well it works lol

First! 🎉

@VideoGameEsoterica

Жыл бұрын

You win ten VGE tickets! Redeem 500K for strawberry hard candy or a tootsie roll

@dwightschrute80

Жыл бұрын

Woohoo!

as I'm a big fan of SNK... this platform was bad.

@VideoGameEsoterica

Жыл бұрын

That’s crazy talk