EMG 81/60 VS JH HET SET! Installing James Hetfield Signature Pickups + Comparing To Classic EMGs!
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I have finally gotten a set of the EMG James Hetfield Signature JH Guitar Pickups and decided to make a video throwing them on and comparing the Het-Set to the classic EMG 81/60 set by playing a ton of my favorite James Hetfield riffs!
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Awesome set up bro , love the juicy guitar !
@DenDenBMX
Жыл бұрын
thanks for watching dude!
That gold set is perfect! I'm gonna put my 81/85 into this cool Burny les paul I bought last year. Love that thrash tone!
@DenDenBMX
Жыл бұрын
Aw hell yeah dude, I wanna get my hands on an MIJ Les Paul Copy one day!
Love the death magnetic representation 🤓. Also yeah they both definitely do the metallica thing. The Het set is slightly crunchier. I just think about how many iconic metallica albums were recorded with the 81/60 combo. I'd be happy with either tbh. First 3 albums were all passive humbuckers, so really any high output humbucker will get you close enough. That gold do be going good with the color scheme tho 👀
@DenDenBMX
Жыл бұрын
thanks for watching man, glad you enjoyed it!
@psychedeliccarrie5921
9 ай бұрын
I think the Het set does great bridging the gap between the Seymour Duncans on the first two albums and the EMGs going forward after that. Not that the EMG 81/60s couldn't play the first two albums perfectly, but I do think the tone is a tiny bit closer in the Het set.
I've got this same LTD EC-1000, and since I saw Mike Schleibaum of Darkest Hour put a Het Bridge in his pro model, I've been considering updating. Getting to hear the comparison in my exact guitar is amazing! The gold is beautiful, and I love the sound of the Hets, so I'll definitely be making the switch!
@DenDenBMX
6 ай бұрын
glad this video could help you out dude, thanks for watching!
for me it was definitely Hetfield bridge for dynamic chug'n'crunch and 60 on the neck for those classic clean tones.
@DenDenBMX
9 ай бұрын
aw hell yeah haha thanks for watching!
The HetSet is more brilliant sounding imo. which Poti shaft length is the right for the eclipse when i order the het set? thanks for this great video! TU
@DenDenBMX
Жыл бұрын
When I ordered mine I picked the long shaft pots, according to emg's website those are the ones you're supposed to use
The 81 sounds so tight ,much better than the Het set. For live situation i would definitely go with the 81 60 set.
@DenDenBMX
Жыл бұрын
I think they'd both be great for a live setting, but the 81/60 is definitely tighter, the het set was designed to be more dynamic
Hi Den, great video. I can tell that you have used just 3 pots, I guess 2 vol and one tone. As it comes with 4 pots, does it include the wiring of just one?
@DenDenBMX
10 ай бұрын
EMG supplies you with everything you need to wire up their pickups into a guitar, however I didn't use any of the electronics provided because this guitar already had EMGs in it so I just used the quick connects to swap them
At what height did you set the pick ups too? I just did the same swap in a EC 256. I got it at a decent level for now, but im digging that tone.
@jayjaymerritt2785
11 ай бұрын
I set mine pretty close to the strings, then back down a tad. These pickups are HOT... They clip the signal if I set them too high. About 1/8th inch from the strings give or take. A common misconception is that most emgs need to literally almost touch the strings. I.m.o that gives you a bit more treble/volume, but kills dynamics. You need a bit of air between the strings and the pickup. Don't get me wrong, I still set mine "high" just not high "est" if that makes sense. Good luck man😊
@DenDenBMX
11 ай бұрын
I have no idea how to describe the pickup height, I didn't measure. Since you've got it at a spot you like id say measure it and write it down then play around with the height and find a tone you like, and you'll be able to go back to square one if you need to start over. Although I believe pickup height doesn't actually make THAT much of a difference in the grand scheme of things
I’ve been trying to decide between these exact same het pickups or the fishman will Adler pickups. It’s hard to find a video comparing the two.
@DenDenBMX
Жыл бұрын
That would be an interesting comparison!
EMG 81 to me is the holy grail for "modern metal" for better or worse, because I think it's just the most ubiquitously used on the foundational recordings in that time period. Anyone whose inspired by those guitar tones is chasing the EMG 81 tone no matter how far they try to run from this fact, and boy do they try to run. They will talk EMG into the ground... then turn on their favorite NWOAHM, Metalcore, or even Thrash/Power/Death metal song that is blaring EMG 81 tone front and centerr
@DenDenBMX
7 ай бұрын
tone elitists are so silly, thanks for watching dude!
@Yourweakminds
3 ай бұрын
Sort of agree with your 81 thought BUT - didn’t het use an 85 in there, and who knows what they used in the studio?! Add in post production, and you’re quickly miles away from the raw sound. I owned a tri axis and a KH2 - certainly felt close to Metallica sound to me. AND who wants the het sound of now?! - thin and weedy.
Im relatively new to guitar so don’t have a well developed ear, I could tell the most difference when you played on a clean channel the Het Set sounded better then but that’s just my opinion. Also I wouldn’t take the Het Set out of Veronica it looks amazing!
@DenDenBMX
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
How did you clean the matte finish? Is there more you can use than just a microfiber cloth??
@DenDenBMX
Жыл бұрын
I use stuff from the dunlop system 65 guitar cleaning kit
they both have an awesome sound, and i wouldn’t pick one over the other, but i do think the 60/81 looks cooler
@DenDenBMX
10 ай бұрын
glad you enjoyed the video, thanks for watching!
Bruh, how awesome is it that switching the pickups is that convenient for you. I've never done so before, but I'm assuming most situations require wire-clippings and soldering.
@DenDenBMX
10 ай бұрын
most situations do require soldering and all that gross stuff, but with emg's quick connect system it's REALLY easy to swap their pickups
I liked the HET set for some, more lows/highs and specific frequencies stood out clearly. But for most I preferred the 81/60 tighter and more 80's thrash. I wouldn't say no to either of them though.
@DenDenBMX
4 күн бұрын
I agree I still use them both cuz they're great, just different
@DenDenBMX I have to say, this video pulled at the heart strings a bit right at the start. I think the Het Set is a great choice of pickups and your videos still don't dissapoint me, but bring a lot of joy when I need it most! Also, somehow first comment? Nice licks btw!
@DenDenBMX
Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed the video, thanks for watching!
EMG 81 AND 85 are what I use exclusively but the 60 is very good as well. The Hetfield pickups aren't my thing but inappreciate the well edited and executed video.
@DenDenBMX
4 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!!
Hey mate, did you have to use the F-spaced set or is this standard? Just bought a vintage black EC-1000 and I want a brushed gold het set now lol thanks for the inspo and being the first to review the color! :D
@DenDenBMX
3 ай бұрын
f-spaced means it's spaced for a floyd rose bridge, so don't get that version unless your guitar has a floyd rose on it
Did you also have to get the Emg 3 way toggle switch or just used the existing one?
@DenDenBMX
10 ай бұрын
I didn't use any of the electronics that came with my pickups since my guitar already had emgs in it, I just unplugged the 81/60 and threw the het set in
Been wanting to see this comparison with Hetfield's strings, Earnie Ball 11-50, to get a more closer comparison Felt like Hetset had more body
@DenDenBMX
Ай бұрын
thanks for watching!
I just bought the gold ones theyre coming tomorrow. I can’t wait to put it on my explorer kit guitar I wanna give it a Metallica vibe🙂
@DenDenBMX
Жыл бұрын
aw hell yeah hope you love them dude!
@bluephoenix3865
Жыл бұрын
@@DenDenBMX probably will I love my Jim Root signature on my omen extreme 6😀
the pickups sounded like a real tube amp vs solid state. Het set sounded more 3 dimensional and natural. I still love the 81 and 85 on my own guitars though.
@Tomekkplk
Жыл бұрын
Bet you your life you wouldn't be able to tell the difference between a modern solid state and tube.
@Gornflyin
Жыл бұрын
@@Tomekkplk big call, when you know nothing about me. Keep trolling, keep rolling
@Gornflyin
Жыл бұрын
@@Tomekkplk that's helpful. Good for you :) lol
@DenDenBMX
Жыл бұрын
I feel like in-person would be the one place where anyone can actually tell the difference between solid state/tube/plug-in
@Gornflyin
Жыл бұрын
@@DenDenBMX yep, I agree
I had an EC-1000 a lot like that one- vintage black, EMGs and so on. Loved that guitar and I'd still have it today if it didn't get stolen.
@DenDenBMX
2 ай бұрын
aw man bummer to hear it got stolen, hopefully you can get your hands on another one!
@GoldCobra487
2 ай бұрын
@@DenDenBMX Thanks. I plan on getting my mits on another EC-1000 somewhere down the line. I currently own a KH-3 Spider and I LOVE it.
Sorry with your Grandma. I love the pickup-covers. How have you done it ?
@DenDenBMX
5 ай бұрын
they're just cutouts from a big sticker I had lying around, just cut them to shape and slapped em on
I got the set a few months ago and I fell like the Het set has less gain or the eq of those pickups are different. I didn't like and I thought something wrong with the batch I got or what??!! I sold it. But I always see people like you playing those pickyps and sounds super accurate. You got the grip well done.
@DenDenBMX
7 ай бұрын
interesting, I think the het set is slightly less hot than 81/60s but it shouldn't be THAT noticeable, maybe there was an issue with your battery or maybe you did just get a bunk set, who knows, thanks for watching!
I love LTD thay sadly take number 2 in my top guitar brands with Jackson being number one and Schecter, being just behind LTD
@DenDenBMX
Жыл бұрын
I played a Jackson for like 5 years, but I think LTD takes the top spot for me!
@thesafehandle
Жыл бұрын
@@DenDenBMX I’m quite certain I’ll be seeing a different Melody if I actually had the chance to own in LTD or esp I don’t know why, but I feel like the same guitar to me. They might be a totally different company for one another I don’t know, but I feel like that to me that seems like they made by the same people. Lol but if I actually had one that I could play every single day it’s just like a balisong you know until you flip it for a month you don’t really know if you like it or not.
the difference is negligible the 81/60s defiantly have a slightly darker muddier tone, het set sounds brighter but by the time you run them thought pedals with distortion your wont notice it unless you are really looking for it
@DenDenBMX
Жыл бұрын
thanks for watching my friend!
@jeffvader9960
Жыл бұрын
@@DenDenBMX your welcome
The clean neck sound differs drastically, but I suppose it's because of the newly replaced strings.
@DenDenBMX
4 ай бұрын
Could be my friend
@solariceband
4 ай бұрын
@@DenDenBMX 🤘😁
Both sound similar but the het set is the only emg that can compare with my bare knuckles sets, they are just animals
@DenDenBMX
Жыл бұрын
i've never gotten to try a set of bare knuckles, i've heard great things
@tatteredhope911
9 ай бұрын
@@DenDenBMXI've got the Het Set, 57&66, 81&85, Duncan Black Winters, Nazgul, Invaders, Bare knuckle Ragnaroks, an Ceramic War Pigs. I love the het set but the Ragnaroks are amazing. Being active the het set is more compressed, I love both, it's a "feel" thing. The Bare Knuckles will tell on you if you are even the slightest bit sloppy though, they are clear as fuck and have lots of output
an EC-1000 being kept in standard is like a Michelin star chef working in a mcdonalds, get her in drop C this instant and let her COOK
@cazza710
27 күн бұрын
jokes aside im heavily debating a hetset myself to go in a literally identical EC-1000 and this is very helpful for me, the difference is night and day, they seem to breathe entirely new life into the guitar
@DenDenBMX
25 күн бұрын
haha back when I made this video I just stuck in E standard, but now I change tunings all the time with the transpose dial on my neural dsp plugins
@cazza710
25 күн бұрын
@@DenDenBMX jesus christ that statement made me feel like a boomer, just change the damn tuning
the het set seems to be more mid heavy. i think the 81 could be eq'd to sound quite close. i have an 81/60 set and won't be upgrading.
@DenDenBMX
9 күн бұрын
Ain't no use upgrading if it won't be that different!
Quite a big difference, so you cant really say one is better as they are so different . The Het‘s got exactly that open dynamic and alive characteristic tone that the 81‘s lack of SOOO much. Tho the Hetset lacks of that cut-through tight low end of the 81s that would make you stand out more in a band/mix situation. For home use I would say the Hetset is a better allround choice for different sounds and playings. 81 just screams gimme gain, gimme chug, gimme riffs that i desire…yeah!
@DenDenBMX
Жыл бұрын
im feeling the same way, i like them both!
Thank you cleaning the neck.
@DenDenBMX
Жыл бұрын
she was pretty dirty haha, thanks for watching!
Ich bin der Meinung das, dass Het Set viel offener klingt.
@DenDenBMX
Жыл бұрын
thanks for watching!
I think I love 81/60 is better Than Het Set
@DenDenBMX
Жыл бұрын
aw hell yeah, thanks for watching!
Put a 85 before the bridge. Thank me later..
@DenDenBMX
7 ай бұрын
my first real les paul was an epiphone zakk wylde bullseye with emg 81/85, I loved how it sounded but I couldn't stand the california redwood sized neck on it
Unfortunately the way the comparison was made invalidates the results. To truly find the differences between the sets you need to run each set with new strings and play the same riff on each set. New strings always sound better than old used dull strings. Hopefully you can redo the video at some point.
@DenDenBMX
7 ай бұрын
Actually to hear the true sound of both sets you have to listen to them through a phone recording of you playing them both upside down through a 2007 line 6 spider at exactly 3:28am on the 3rd Thursday in June where the temperature is exactly 69° in an acoustically resonant Dillards family bathroom located exactly on the equator when the moon is in aeries and Uranus is in it's 3rd trimester right after it just rained and the guitars have to be tuned an open Æ chord strung up with the 6th string an ernie ball 58, 5th a didario 17, 4th a ghs 52, 3rd a Dunlop 32, 2nd an ernie ball paradigm 13, and the 1st a DR neon pink 8 with none of the string ends cut with the action just high enough that a newborn anaconda can fit easily through and you have to play Santana's rendition of whole Lotta love but 2 and a half steps up, and it must be listened to by a Polish albino orphan named Dickson Cider that has 72 teeth, toe-hands, no collarbones, and perfect pitch
Emg 80/60 is better than Het set in my opinion
@DenDenBMX
Жыл бұрын
I don't think I like one more than the other, they're just different
do all jh pickups fit in a les paul? or do i need a specific jh model with specific dimensions and lengths?
@DenDenBMX
3 ай бұрын
unless your les paul has a floyd rose then you just need the standard set, if it's a gibson or epiphone make sure you get the long shaft pots!