I need to bookmark this for the people still arguing to stack attack on him. Yeah attack is best for his personal damage, but he isn't Ganyu and is meant to be run in swap reaction teams and dendro reactions scale on EM with also scales on character level. It's very similar to Anemo in that regard.

@kryoshka

Жыл бұрын

No, wanna use him like a goat. Selfish DD

@deztacular

Жыл бұрын

Yea, but his personal em doesn't affect the team. Say you run a spread aggravate team with tighnari, fischl an anemo unit and a buffer, tighnari em cannot be transferred to the other characters, meaning he doesn't influence their reactions. In a bloom team (which there's not really a point to tighnari bloom) his em only affects the dendro core if he creates them and if they explode on their own. Otherwise he doesn't influence the team em or reactions. So unless I misunderstood what you were trying to say, going for personal dmg on tighnari is always the best, since stacking em does not increase team dmg, It only increases his own dmg.

@radana4282

Жыл бұрын

@@deztacular i get that i'm replying 2 weeks after you said this, but by personal damage he means raw dendro damage, as in without quicken

@EclipticRaisin

Жыл бұрын

@@deztacular The part where you mentioned him not influencing the team damage is confusing. If we go on the Fischl-Tighnari duo, your point almost sounds as if we would be using him as a support for Fischl. We don’t use them together to make Fischl stronger, we use them to make Tighnari stronger. He doesn’t have to influence the team damage, they have to influence his. He is a bit of a hyper-carry Tighnari’s multipliers are so horrifically low that going for personal damage instead of spread is depriving him of the general damage he needs to be viable. That works with characters like Lisa or Raiden where the game doesn’t punish you for building them that way, but Tighnari on the other hand will probably only be hitting 3 or 4 digit numbers like that, and barely breaking 10-20k without a whale build

@ladenmaity9806

Жыл бұрын

It depends on which weapon ur using crit sub stat weapon then go for em sand and if you're using em sub stat weapon then atk sand easy

i hate the fact that you can't use electro against fungi that supposed to drop material for him. tighnari and electro is the best combination. it can deal even higher damage but unfortunately if you use it on fungi they will drop a different material. i do like this kind of concept but it's annoying.

@environmentaly7894

Жыл бұрын

I have a 300 em tighnari and i use atk sands because my rng isn't great so i can farm fungu with raw dendro but it's still slow nonetheless. But i do like the ones that are near water so you can have free bloom lolol

@MrRhytor

9 ай бұрын

WTF. I have been farming Fungi with electro and was wondering why I receive nucleus

@sabo512

5 ай бұрын

Just swap to cryo or hydro or anemo if you're farming of fungi

@sabinodanielaguilarpalacio1089

3 ай бұрын

I never notice this

@sabinodanielaguilarpalacio1089

3 ай бұрын

Luckily i was farming with ayaka

thanks for the quick comparsion, fast and simple to understand :D

this is acutally very useful, dont have tighnari but thanks for the video anyway, short and straight to the point

Hiii, thank you for the video! Can you also make a sands comparison for a bow thats not the hunters path? From what i can tell the bow also converts (?) EM to ATK. If you can tho, thank you. Thanks again for tge comparison! 👀

Bro thanks you so much that was really helpful

Actually the reason why u should run with em is bc without electro he doesnt do dmg

@environmentaly7894

Жыл бұрын

I deal 10k raw dendro wtf you on💀💀

@brajanlazaj1133

Жыл бұрын

@@environmentaly7894 10k on ca is nothing

@environmentaly7894

Жыл бұрын

@@brajanlazaj1133 it's raw dendro if it's with electro it's 30k-50k. Depends on team comps (i sometime run layla instead of kuki if i need shielding so there's less electro). And i did test it out and the atk sands is better but i think it's because it has a little less cdmg but still, raw dendro normally isn't good as it's a transformative reaction

@brajanlazaj1133

Жыл бұрын

@@environmentaly7894 ye i know, im just saying 10k as a number isnt good, hence y i said tighnari needs electro

@flowerlamps

9 ай бұрын

@@environmentaly7894what’s ur build pls

can retake the roll using a weapon other than his own because it scales with skill proficiency.

Can you compare an atk weapon with em sands (like amos) and an em weapon with atk sands? That would be very helpful.

@feet1858

Жыл бұрын

The only em bow i think is stringless so that would be pointless as amos would obviously be better bc it boosts charged atks instead of element bursts and skills

@johnd7760

Жыл бұрын

@@feet1858 there's ode as well💀

@project_kj4377

Жыл бұрын

@@feet1858 there is one event bow with em sub which provide atk after e, its called Windblume Ode but most player (after 1.4) dont have it

@feet1858

Жыл бұрын

@@johnd7760 oh yeah i kind of forgot abt that weapob

@gloomm553

Жыл бұрын

​@@johnd7760 i missed the ode i started late 😢 Sorry if im replying 9 mons later...

Not sure if this helps with any insight to his kit/team but rn im running traveler with deepwood, raiden, a flex unit and tignari with 4pc WT, thundering pulse and like a total of 200EM(more within travelers burst and resonance). Im hitting around 27k per wreath and 5-21k per cluster. burst hitting for 6-19k a seed then 8k-21k per cluster. 225 CD/45 CR - 1945 ATK. no food buffs. Stringless had somewhat comparable stats. just slightly lower dmg.

@Masanorichan

Жыл бұрын

I do 36k dmg and 4k-27k with 1300 Atk & 550 EM, I replace Shogun with Sara bcs my Atk very low.

I got an em sand with 21%atk &14CD :D

I'm running Atk/Dendro/EM. Pretty good with reaction. 20K charge attack and 5K +4 additional dmg. I do want to change to EM middle piece but the problem is it's hard to get a good artifact 😐

@andy-2481

Жыл бұрын

what kind of artifacts do you use?

@KyHeartWill

Жыл бұрын

@@andy-2481 that new dendro set. (Deepwood memories) I don't have his 5* weapon. I'm using battle pass bow. (Viridescent Hunt)

@dotBUGGU786

Жыл бұрын

​@@KyHeartWill bro I am very confused . My tinghari do 6-7k damage only . I have 5 star artifacts but not good ones . Can u help me achieve them

Em for quicken/spread and atk for main dps

Ig I’ll keep my atk sands then because the substats are better. I only just got my first em glided dreams sands after farming this domain forever, but it doesn’t seem super worth it if his crit dmg is nerfed

I got lucky and got to what I call the sweet spot. High crit rate and dmg, em, and decent attack. Just got lucky on the He mows everyone down with Fishel and baraba as a healer with bloom support and klee for more element damage. I also find quqing is really a good pair if you don't have klee. If neither, then an ice support or fire dps. I haven't tried diluc yet, as I just got him. But I find Pyro, electro, hydro, and denro are a devastating team with him in it. I upgraded his talents, and oh boy. It's magic.

2974 attack and 37EM vs 2625 attack and 181 EM which you think is better for keqing and tighnari combo?

I do 27k with harp(quciken reaction) and 33k in abyss. with collei in dendro set he did 40k

I just got him after losing 50/50 in cyno's banner. Thanks for the tip.

@caphalor7252

Жыл бұрын

Lol same just 5 months later

I have a attack sands but I have the kings squire r5 on him should I still swap my attack sands for em

I do 19k with amos bow and the small arrows do 6-8k

If depend on your substat if you atk send is better choose this one

Thank you for this, also what would be the best usable 4* weapon for tighnari?

@MobaandChill

Жыл бұрын

Either of the 3 will work well in my opinion: Windblume Ode, Stringless, and King's Squire. Mainly because all of them provides EM and works well with Dendro :)

@centurygothicc2400

Жыл бұрын

@@MobaandChill hamayumi deals more dmg than king's squire tho

@adamrifqi2548

Жыл бұрын

@@centurygothicc2400 but u cant spam burst to take the passive

My sands on him is EM and his CA is around 5.9k per arrow

Thanks for your efforts.... I would like to know which is better for Yae Miko .... EM or attack After Dendro it has to be be a change

@MobaandChill

Жыл бұрын

Will test this out once I get a complete set of Gilded Dreams :)

@AzUs_Lee

Жыл бұрын

@@MobaandChill TYSM

Pog

But can u do a full build on him

just remember, last decision is in you, use sands (atk or em) with best substats..

what's ur talent lvl the time this was tested?

Both are usefull different way if you want high raw damage go on attack if you want reactions go for em thats it Tighnari can deal 15-20k raw damage(with Bennett's buff) and 30-50k using reactions but its not consistent, if your skill is done the reactions is useless while using attack you can use him without any reaction types you just need bennett for buffer and increase his damage

Very close running attack until i get EM 😭. Only got 200 which is maybe base line minimum.

by the time we got Nahida, the atk sand always the best for him

Is Windblume Ode a good on tighnari since it has em and atk buff on it

@thisismyfirstusernameimade3007

Жыл бұрын

Yeah it actually is one of his best in slots

if using hunter's path EM is always better, But the same can't be said in other situations, the difference is small almost not even worth it

You should try another bow

I have 200+ em with attack sand if i use em sand i get around 300+ he's lv63 now

You now just need to add the element burst dmg!!!

If you don't have that bow, it's better to have atk sands right? EM will be priority sub stat.

@sryprm

Жыл бұрын

nope still em better. depend on substat

Would the damage of the EM lose out if you're not using Hunter's path?

@user-dx7ej6cs5t

Жыл бұрын

Noj

Just gone him and Venti-chan with 2 pull 🤣

Should I use r5 slingshot or r2 Stringless o.o? I play him in kazuha fischl tighnari zhongli team

@crushed_star

Жыл бұрын

you should craft prototype crescent

@nationalgeografic7687

Жыл бұрын

@@crushed_star 💀💀💀💀💀💀

So how is Tighnari? Since I’m a yoimiya main i feel like i should pull zhongli but i do like tighnari a lot. Any tips?

@talhaansari62

Жыл бұрын

I'm confused between kokomi and tighnari myself.

@MIsT.x

Жыл бұрын

I hate bow characters I even skipped ganyu even though she is like the best DPS, but I pulled for tighnari he is fun and his character design in top notch, if u like him pull him after he is on standard banner there is 1/16 chances to get tighnari so don't regret

@vivekm2179

Жыл бұрын

@@talhaansari62 kokomi definitely is better best character in game rn for bloom reaction and good support too

@vivekm2179

Жыл бұрын

@stanislav for yoimiya zhongli is 100x better and more universal. Also tighnari will be added to standard banner later so u can still get him after he goes away someday

@Nothingity

Жыл бұрын

Zhongli is the "god of defense". Thus his value is through the roof. If I start a new account today, the first character I'd want to get is Zhongli, and then it's Ganyu. Everyone else can wait. But now we have a problem... lol. Tighnari is going to the standard banner. That means, once he's there, there'd be no feature, no pity, no nothing. You won't be able to target him for pulling. You can only get him through pure luck. So unless you're a mega whale, you should perhaps pull Tighnari now if you want him. Zhongli would have future reruns, but not Tighnari. Tighnari gives you something that Yoimiya doesn't: mobility. Yoimiya's biggest problem is when she's NAing, she can't move, and if she moves to evade, her attack string is reset, lowering her dps. Tighnari plays CA, so he can move when CAing. And his E is a good CC, which Yoimiya doesn't have. Overall, I'd say Tighnari is a better bow dps character than Yoimiya (and you should switch over.. lel).

Guys is stringless weapon good on tighnari? For em

@MobaandChill

Жыл бұрын

Definitely!

@EmmanuelinLV

Жыл бұрын

Bro yes and r5 passive is like the cherry on top bro

@Penguin472

Жыл бұрын

@@MobaandChill TY!

@Penguin472

Жыл бұрын

@@EmmanuelinLV WOAH DAMN THANKS DUDE!

@Nothingity

Жыл бұрын

R5 Windblume Ode would be better than Stringless. But Stringless is fine too.

I love the way that he does too much damage so u had to balance his build for the show case 😂 cannot wait to get him. Also if u don’t mind me asking, is skyward harp a good 5 star weapon for him or are other 4 star weapons better than skyward on him

@vitora.6865

Жыл бұрын

The balance of stats is not because of his damage, is to showcase how having more atk or more EM works on him.

@bruuuhh0

Жыл бұрын

@Mulya Jayalaksana which is better tho? Are they the same?

@Tsareena54i

Жыл бұрын

@@bruuuhh0 depends on your playstyle. Stringless boosts burst and skill dmg while his sig focusses on CA

@aintailstweentales7964

Жыл бұрын

Basically any 5 star bow with crit stats: 1 Hunter's Path 2 Polar/Aqua 3 Thundering/SkyHarp If no 5star bow then use R5 Slingshot, it beats most of the 4star with spread reaction. For 4star depends on what you need: Viridescent/Blackcliff for Crit Stringless/Windblume for EM

@johnd7760

Жыл бұрын

Its great, little behind Aqua from my tests. Better than Amos. No 4* is better than Harp.

My Tighnari somehow have low attack with ±500 EM

em is a lot better try to make a balance set with em,atk and crit dmg or crit rate

Is dendro attack damage better than attack percentage?

@FurryBoykissser

Жыл бұрын

yes

Is skyward harp good for tighnari?

@FurryBoykissser

Жыл бұрын

ye its pretty good

if you have amos bow go em

I'm currently using an ATK sands on Tighnari. But still not sure to Increase my ATK with Amos Bow or just use The Stringless for EM. Whatcha think?

@astrospace2887

Жыл бұрын

Use amos and then em sands

@julianezekielmendoza6179

Жыл бұрын

@@astrospace2887both Tighnari's Ascension stat and Amos Bow doesn't have any Crit. Ya think 50% CR is good? I have 140%CD. But just so you know my Atk is between 1600-1700 I have the EM sands and Dendro Goblet BTW

😀

1:19

I am just wondering. Isnt it better to just run him with 1000 EM to get the max out of his passive and let the spread/Quicken reaction deal the damage? Both the reactions cant crit so I see no reason to build any crit at all for reaction damage. There is still no video out there showcasing 1000 EM + Electro reaction.

@kar31000

Жыл бұрын

Who told you the Recation don't crit lol they do crit

@artaleasham4105

Жыл бұрын

@@kar31000 talks about a response 4 months ago when dendro was new.

you using weapon what increase dmg how much em he have.... please use different wespon to compare... this dont make sense if you have this weapon always em win...

@nathanclinton11

Жыл бұрын

No it makes perfect fucking sense. If he's using it on both sides. Shit I have Tighnari C1 with Hunter's path, and I still fucking run him as a atk dmg with crit rate & dmg and dendro dmg bonus. It makes him OP as FUCK. If you want a different weapon why don't you compare it yourself? Or look up another one bro.

@romankucera9501

Жыл бұрын

@@nathanclinton11 are you okay ? propably nope Hunter path increasing charge shot be 160% elemental mastery dmg ofc if he put elemental sand its gonna do more dmg with that weapon retrd. there go how much diff is in his passive not on his weapon... please stfu thanks

Em because he is better with electro/dendro related reactions

Ok so today I learned Tighnari doesn’t do well in bloom teams

i've been testing tighnari with two builds (both using hisgreen artifact set): 2410 ATK 56%cr, 140%dmg AMOS BOW,50 EM 1830 ATK 60%cr, 130% dng AMOS BOW, 336 EM The 50EM did 20% more dmg from all sources. (Solo dmg) And to try helping tighnari to do better with EM, i even used albedo's ult to give 125EM, and it just boosted 100 dmf for each wrath arrow. i think 0 em with only ATK% and CRIT DMG% focus is much better than his original build.

How about with not the new weapon, since the new weapon depends alot on EM

@MobaandChill

Жыл бұрын

Ahh the first charged attack doesn’t apply the EM boost so comparison with other weapon will somehow be the same on that first instance only :)

@bakasta2610

Жыл бұрын

@@MobaandChill ohh ok thanks

I don't know why Ganyu with Amos bow and 100% more AA damage can deal damage about 17 000-30 000 but Tighnari with that bow can deal only about 10k per charge???

@troii_owo4695

Жыл бұрын

Because dendro revolves around electro reactions and em. His 2nd passive states that in every EM stat he has, it will increase his charged attack and brust's dmg by 0.06% and capped on a maximum of 60% additional dmg His passive + combined with a quicken reaction (Dendro + Electro) will surely buff up his dmg

@tienminhnguyen4347

Жыл бұрын

@@troii_owo4695 I mean I want to use Tighnari with ATK sand (surely it's not as high as Ganyu, Ganyu has higher base ATK and charge damage)

@troii_owo4695

Жыл бұрын

@@tienminhnguyen4347 that wont work in my opinion because like it shows in the video, his raw dmg with atk doesn't compare with his EM build quicken dmg

@shaanbhaker2875

Жыл бұрын

With a quicken team he does alot more damage. My tighnari has around 350 em and i run him with lisa who has 558 em. My Tighnari does 22-24k w his fully charged shots. This is with hunters path. Before i used skyward harp tho because i got hunter’s path later off pity. With skyward harp he did around 19-21k per charged shot and lisa

@tienminhnguyen4347

Жыл бұрын

@@shaanbhaker2875 nice Tighnari thoguh. I don't have Tighnari because I want Kokomi for my Ayaka. Luv him, but too many DPS in my team. I need more support

Is Windblume Ode a good on tighnari since it has em and atk buff on it

@Nothingity

Жыл бұрын

R5 Windblume Ode is the best F2P 4* weapon for Tighnari I think. It's surprisingly good on him.

@MobaandChill

Жыл бұрын

Definitely a good weapon for her!

@magentacolor3715

Жыл бұрын

@@MobaandChill noooo you mistakenly assume tighnari as a girl ಥ‿ಥ

@gizmo928

Жыл бұрын

@@MobaandChill yes her!