Elongated and Saturated Stars in Your Images? Here's How to Fix Them in Siril

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In this video, we will explore the common problem of elongated and saturated stars in astrophotography and learn how to fix them using Siril. Elongated and saturated stars can occur due to a variety of reasons such as overexposure, tracking errors, and atmospheric turbulence, and can severely impact the quality of your astrophotography.
I'll cover the new tools, "Desaturate Stars" and "Full Resyntehsis" in Siril to correct these two issues.
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  • @DeepSpaceAstro
    @DeepSpaceAstro11 ай бұрын

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  • @yervantparnagian5999

    @yervantparnagian5999

    5 ай бұрын

    Done.

  • @DeepSpaceAstro

    @DeepSpaceAstro

    5 ай бұрын

    @@yervantparnagian5999 Thanks so much!

  • @mikekibby5666
    @mikekibby5666 Жыл бұрын

    Another stellar video! Thank you!

  • @DeepSpaceAstro

    @DeepSpaceAstro

    Жыл бұрын

    Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks!

  • @don3141592
    @don3141592 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for these detailed walk throughs of the Siril features, and your processing tips!

  • @DeepSpaceAstro

    @DeepSpaceAstro

    Жыл бұрын

    Glad you like them! Thanks!

  • @joaquinculianez344
    @joaquinculianez3449 ай бұрын

    Amazing!!! Thanks for sharing.

  • @DeepSpaceAstro

    @DeepSpaceAstro

    9 ай бұрын

    Thanks and you're welcome!

  • @BRP42
    @BRP42 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks again for taking the time to make these videos. It definitely helps a (relatively) new person learn!

  • @DeepSpaceAstro

    @DeepSpaceAstro

    Жыл бұрын

    You're welcome! Thanks for watching!

  • @davidpuglia4813
    @davidpuglia48137 ай бұрын

    Fantastic videos -I've been watching all your tutorials. Thanks for producing.

  • @DeepSpaceAstro

    @DeepSpaceAstro

    7 ай бұрын

    Glad you like them! Thanks!

  • @bobmyers9008
    @bobmyers9008Ай бұрын

    This is exactly the video I needed today, it was spot on! Thank you so much for your hard work!

  • @DeepSpaceAstro

    @DeepSpaceAstro

    Ай бұрын

    You're so welcome! Thanks!

  • @Arcteek
    @Arcteek7 ай бұрын

    Thank you, excellent video as usual

  • @DeepSpaceAstro

    @DeepSpaceAstro

    7 ай бұрын

    Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks

  • @michaeledmonds3027
    @michaeledmonds30273 ай бұрын

    Truly amazing.... seeing was believing! Another great video.

  • @DeepSpaceAstro

    @DeepSpaceAstro

    3 ай бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @davecampbell1949
    @davecampbell1949 Жыл бұрын

    Great informative videos Rich. This is all new to me but you are getting me up to speed far quicker than I thought possible. Thanks so much.

  • @DeepSpaceAstro

    @DeepSpaceAstro

    Жыл бұрын

    Great to hear! Thanks!

  • @drandrewclarke
    @drandrewclarke5 ай бұрын

    this channel has been the most helpful for this newbie, no doubt about it.

  • @DeepSpaceAstro

    @DeepSpaceAstro

    5 ай бұрын

    Glad to hear that! Thanks!

  • @user-sx2gj9tp3b
    @user-sx2gj9tp3b4 ай бұрын

    Amazing!!! Thank you again for all your help understanding Siril and its many many features.

  • @DeepSpaceAstro

    @DeepSpaceAstro

    4 ай бұрын

    You are very welcome! Thank you!

  • @davechaton6771
    @davechaton6771 Жыл бұрын

    Another good video, thanks. I had messed with both features but didnt realise you had to do the dynamic psf. thanks for the clarification and demo.

  • @DeepSpaceAstro

    @DeepSpaceAstro

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks and you're welcome!

  • @keithmahoney494
    @keithmahoney494 Жыл бұрын

    Great series Rich, so much more information than other channels and will save me quite a few bucks by not having to purchase Pixinsight. Keep up the good work and I hope your channel grow heaps.

  • @DeepSpaceAstro

    @DeepSpaceAstro

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank so much! I hope it does too! ;-)

  • @Jamie-White
    @Jamie-White7 ай бұрын

    Great video! Just starting with SIRIL and this was really easy to follow. Thanks so much

  • @DeepSpaceAstro

    @DeepSpaceAstro

    7 ай бұрын

    Glad you found it helpful! Thanks!

  • @SvenHild
    @SvenHild23 күн бұрын

    Great Video! Thanks!

  • @DeepSpaceAstro

    @DeepSpaceAstro

    23 күн бұрын

    Glad you like it! Thanks!

  • @TheCob86
    @TheCob866 ай бұрын

    Good man, thank you for this tutorial its a savior. Much appreciated! Subbed

  • @DeepSpaceAstro

    @DeepSpaceAstro

    6 ай бұрын

    Glad to hear it helped you out! Thanks and welcome!

  • @AngelMonticelli
    @AngelMonticelli6 ай бұрын

    I really enjoy your videos. Excellent recommendations that make me go right back to reprocess my images. Kudos!

  • @DeepSpaceAstro

    @DeepSpaceAstro

    6 ай бұрын

    Glad you like them! Thanks!

  • @andreasberthold1853
    @andreasberthold1853 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for your videos 👏

  • @DeepSpaceAstro

    @DeepSpaceAstro

    Жыл бұрын

    You're welcome and thank you!

  • @markalot
    @markalot3 ай бұрын

    Watching this again to fix some IR bloat, dropping a comment. Thanks for the video!

  • @DeepSpaceAstro

    @DeepSpaceAstro

    3 ай бұрын

    Glad to help!

  • @demisonlopes8620
    @demisonlopes8620 Жыл бұрын

    Very nice. Tanks!

  • @DeepSpaceAstro

    @DeepSpaceAstro

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @Xarahs
    @Xarahs2 ай бұрын

    Really appreciate this and all your tutorials.

  • @DeepSpaceAstro

    @DeepSpaceAstro

    2 ай бұрын

    Glad you like them! Thanks!

  • @Xarahs

    @Xarahs

    2 ай бұрын

    @@DeepSpaceAstro started astrophotography about half a year ago using a tracker and modded dslr funnily enough I'm shooting the lagoon and trifid, going to just keep shooting it for awhile and see what I get. Though since I'm using a camera lens this has helped an insane amount because the stars can be a bit wonky.

  • @San-yo1xy
    @San-yo1xy3 ай бұрын

    Thank you ! Great ! Very cool !

  • @DeepSpaceAstro

    @DeepSpaceAstro

    3 ай бұрын

    You're welcome and thank you!

  • @koamit
    @koamit Жыл бұрын

    Excellent series covering all the new features in the upcoming SIRIL.

  • @DeepSpaceAstro

    @DeepSpaceAstro

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @dpalms24
    @dpalms248 ай бұрын

    Holy cow! You saved one of my images. This is so awesome!

  • @DeepSpaceAstro

    @DeepSpaceAstro

    8 ай бұрын

    It's a cool feature of Siril isn't it? Glad it helped you out!

  • @perrydouglas7944
    @perrydouglas7944 Жыл бұрын

    Great update Rich. This is definitely giving PI a run for its money. Great work and really useful for us all.👍

  • @DeepSpaceAstro

    @DeepSpaceAstro

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks Perry!

  • @Master0fDe5a5ter
    @Master0fDe5a5ter Жыл бұрын

    Great, problem solved. Thank you

  • @DeepSpaceAstro

    @DeepSpaceAstro

    Жыл бұрын

    You're welcome!

  • @scottrk4930
    @scottrk4930 Жыл бұрын

    So glad I had Google recommend your Site ! I'm an old SiriL User and I've been a little wary of the new version . Now I can watch your Vids and learn a few things . Nicely done . Thanks a million . Subscribed of course . /SRK

  • @DeepSpaceAstro

    @DeepSpaceAstro

    Жыл бұрын

    You're welcome and thank you!

  • @harryl9077
    @harryl907711 ай бұрын

    Hey Rich. Sitting at the bottom of Africa makes it near impossible to get the latest tech and equipment that needs hard currency. The more I am grateful for people like You and Cyril for investing your time and effort in projects like this. Internal thanks :bow: :bow:

  • @DeepSpaceAstro

    @DeepSpaceAstro

    11 ай бұрын

    Oh man that's gotta drive you crazy. Thanks for the kind words!

  • @harryl9077

    @harryl9077

    11 ай бұрын

    @@DeepSpaceAstro At least I will not change much 😉, stay well

  • @LuisRivas-ir6ul
    @LuisRivas-ir6ulАй бұрын

    Thanks for the time and effort you put into this, I just started using siril thanks to your easy to follow instructions... try to do almost everything in photoshop before, but siril is way better. Thanks again

  • @DeepSpaceAstro

    @DeepSpaceAstro

    Ай бұрын

    Glad to hear that! Thanks!

  • @Abaunzamarco
    @Abaunzamarco Жыл бұрын

    Thanks a lot! I also have a few good/bad set of data where the DSO is fine but stars are elongated, can’t wait to try this and see how it works.

  • @DeepSpaceAstro

    @DeepSpaceAstro

    Жыл бұрын

    You're welcome. Let me know!

  • @theHDRflightdeck
    @theHDRflightdeck Жыл бұрын

    WHAT??? This is awesome!!!

  • @DeepSpaceAstro

    @DeepSpaceAstro

    Жыл бұрын

    Yep! Cool stuff!

  • @AstroDanno
    @AstroDanno9 ай бұрын

    Oh man, this might help me avoid trying to fix my tilt issues that I’ve been avoiding! 😂 Thanks for the video!

  • @DeepSpaceAstro

    @DeepSpaceAstro

    9 ай бұрын

    Give it try. Good luck! Thanks!

  • @erwingastinger4950
    @erwingastinger49504 ай бұрын

    I'm a beginner in Siril! It's a perfect Video, thank you! I've to reduce the speed of the video slightly and must with subtitle watch more often! Best regards from lower Austria!

  • @DeepSpaceAstro

    @DeepSpaceAstro

    4 ай бұрын

    Glad it was helpful! Thanks!

  • @joneslu1377
    @joneslu1377 Жыл бұрын

    Absolutely the highest efficiency in explaining how such miraculous functions of SiriL can make one's jaw drop! Thank you so much for your video! The star elongation remedy is totally incredible. Does that mean when shooting emission nebulae, we can have longer exposure without worrying too much about star shapes? Previously, I would shoot 1-min subs thanks to my tracking accuracy. I'm wondering maybe I can try a 3-to-5-minute approach.

  • @DeepSpaceAstro

    @DeepSpaceAstro

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks! It's not intended for that purpose, but it's up to you if that's the approach you want to take.

  • @ianmacdonald2307
    @ianmacdonald2307 Жыл бұрын

    Awesome Rich. I must give this a try. There are some options in Photoshop that are effective in doing this but this is incredible. As always thanks for sharing 🤝

  • @DeepSpaceAstro

    @DeepSpaceAstro

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you and you're welcome!

  • @ianmacdonald2307

    @ianmacdonald2307

    Жыл бұрын

    @@DeepSpaceAstro I’ve just tried this out today on an image of M31 taken last year. It was ‘incredible’. I actually took the starless image and the star mask out of Siril having saved them as .tif files and imported them into Photoshop. The stars looked a little unnatural but when I used ‘less crunchy more fuzzy’ in the Astronomy Tools Action Set (Pro Digital Software) they were transformed 👍

  • @DeepSpaceAstro

    @DeepSpaceAstro

    Жыл бұрын

    Fantastic! Thanks for the tip!

  • @siegfriednoet
    @siegfriednoet3 ай бұрын

    Wow, that star full resynthesis is unbelievable . Thanks for making these videos ! But I was wondering, if those elongated stars are round again, are they on the exact position in the image ?

  • @DeepSpaceAstro

    @DeepSpaceAstro

    3 ай бұрын

    Yes, absolutely

  • @deeboweb
    @deeboweb Жыл бұрын

    this is a game changer for me! great video

  • @DeepSpaceAstro

    @DeepSpaceAstro

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @galacticnemesis366
    @galacticnemesis366 Жыл бұрын

    Hi Rich thank you for the informative and inspirational content. If running both processes is there a more optimum order to run them?

  • @DeepSpaceAstro

    @DeepSpaceAstro

    Жыл бұрын

    That's a good question! I would say desaturate first, but it probably doesn't matter.

  • @galacticnemesis366

    @galacticnemesis366

    Жыл бұрын

    @@DeepSpaceAstro ok great thanks ill test it out.

  • @pipercherokee8598
    @pipercherokee8598 Жыл бұрын

    You're really advancing the art by providing all of these fantastic tutorials, well done! One question - maybe I missed it; is there a way to control the amount of shrinking the stars get with the resynthesis? I have found that my stars end up looking like perfect white round dots. Did I miss a step? I'd like them to be rounder, but still have the color and a bit more of a "natural" appearance. Thoughts? Thanks again!

  • @DeepSpaceAstro

    @DeepSpaceAstro

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you! Use Generalised Hyperbolic Stretch with the Human or Even Weighted Luminance for the Color Stretch Model to help with the star color. You can try to add a bit of blur to the star mask by typing gauss 1.2 (play with that number too) at the Siril command line. Save first because there is no undo when using commands. You could also try my script to shrink the stars. kzread.info/dash/bejne/gJVqqdyEn93Wc6w.html

  • @pipercherokee8598

    @pipercherokee8598

    Жыл бұрын

    @@DeepSpaceAstro Thanks Rich, I'll try that.

  • @terrybrooks395
    @terrybrooks3955 ай бұрын

    Great stuff, thanks, so it may not work with Newtonian difraction spikes then?

  • @DeepSpaceAstro

    @DeepSpaceAstro

    5 ай бұрын

    Thanks! That's good question. My first though was no, but maybe it wouldn't pick up on the diffraction spikes?

  • @davidharveyart
    @davidharveyart Жыл бұрын

    Brilliant stuff - just a quickie - how do you deselect a circled star selected Dynamic PSF eg. the bright core in NGC 7023 Iris Nebula ..

  • @DeepSpaceAstro

    @DeepSpaceAstro

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks! To remove the star, click on it and then click the minus button in the bottom-right corner.

  • @mikecole1337
    @mikecole1337 Жыл бұрын

    Another great Siril tutorial, thanks Rich! Do you know if it's possible to use this as part of a script so it can 'fix' elongated stars prior to registration? Registration won't include the light frames if the stars are too 'out of shape', unless there's a way around this? Clear skies!

  • @DeepSpaceAstro

    @DeepSpaceAstro

    Жыл бұрын

    EDIT: Try this to see if it gets the images registered. At the Siril command line (bottom right corner) type without the quotes "setfindstar -roundness=0.1" then run the OSC-Preprocessing script. If that gets things going, then open the result file and run the Fix Misshapen Stars script and see what happens. It may not be 100% though. Let me know. I've been looking at this, and you have my wheels turning. lol I'm "kinda" close to a resolution I think, but no promises. In the mean time shoot me an email. Address is in the About tab on my page.

  • @robertovolpini9359
    @robertovolpini9359 Жыл бұрын

    Very interesting video Rich... anyway, as always. I'm thinking about how to use this feature in case of some shots, during the night sequence are bad (such as an example a gust of wind) do you think it'll be possible to recover these shots intead to reject all, do you think it'll possible and then join to the good ones? One more thing regards to the color of the stars after the synthesis stars process, in your video seem that alla stars are white, I'm wrong? Ciao Roberto

  • @DeepSpaceAstro

    @DeepSpaceAstro

    Жыл бұрын

    If you're talking about bad individual exposures that are rejected during registration, you can try the setfindstar command. I show how to do that here: kzread.info/dash/bejne/dIOKrqSPpqu6lNI.html Yes my stars are white but I beleive that is because I use my L-Enhance filter when shooting. I don't remember for sure since I shot those images last year.

  • @robertovolpini9359

    @robertovolpini9359

    Жыл бұрын

    @@DeepSpaceAstro thanks a lot my friend for your support 👍😉

  • @DeepSpaceAstro

    @DeepSpaceAstro

    Жыл бұрын

    You're welcome!

  • @yervantparnagian5999
    @yervantparnagian59995 ай бұрын

    Blown away by this. I used in on my Cone Nebula and it worked perfect. Looks like the latest version of the recomposition has separate "Apply" buttons. So, I guess they fixed it from closing? If it still closes, correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm thinking of a work around. After the Starmask is created, I can bring each photo into GHS make them nonlinear so PS can "See" them. Save each as a 16 bit Tiff and bring them into PS. Once finished in there, bring them back and reconvert into 32 bit for Siril and THEN do a Full Resynthesis to fix star issues and finally do a Recombine? Guess I have something to do tomorrow. lol

  • @DeepSpaceAstro

    @DeepSpaceAstro

    5 ай бұрын

    Yep they fixed that issue a few months ago.

  • @astronomyjustforfun4595
    @astronomyjustforfun4595 Жыл бұрын

    Dam....great job...That simple short tutorial unloaded a lot of editing power I have on a backlog of data. Results are comparable to pixinsight. But cheaper.

  • @DeepSpaceAstro

    @DeepSpaceAstro

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks man! Siril is capable of so much more than people know.

  • @astronomyjustforfun4595

    @astronomyjustforfun4595

    Жыл бұрын

    @@DeepSpaceAstro I am on version 1.2 beta. What is your workflow regarding the stretches? Do you do all your stretching in star processing for data that has some star issues? Or do you do your stretching then go to star processing?

  • @astronomyjustforfun4595

    @astronomyjustforfun4595

    Жыл бұрын

    Seems like stretching first would cause more issues but I am not sure.

  • @cdolan56
    @cdolan5611 ай бұрын

    Great video Rich! What do you recommend (if anything) for a star that remains saturated after running the desaturation tool? I've run into this a couple of times where it fixes all but one star. Would you just leave it and continue on, run desaturate again, or is there some other kind of setting I can change for it to fix them all the first time?

  • @DeepSpaceAstro

    @DeepSpaceAstro

    11 ай бұрын

    Thanks! If it's just one star I'd just leave it I think.

  • @cdolan56

    @cdolan56

    11 ай бұрын

    @@DeepSpaceAstro Perfect, thanks so much. Thats what I was thinking but I'm still pretty new to this. When do you work on your star processing? Is it one of the last things you do before you stretch or is it better to do it earlier in the process before noise reduction, etc.?

  • @DeepSpaceAstro

    @DeepSpaceAstro

    11 ай бұрын

    I usually crop, BGE, color calibration, remove green noise, then remove the stars.

  • @rogerjoyner3524
    @rogerjoyner352410 ай бұрын

    Hi, Rich, I just found your videos and love them. I've been trying to learn Siril and the video have helped tremendously. I was especially happy finding the one about fixing elongated stars. I had great success with it until I tried it on globular clusters; can't get it to work right. It seems to treat the central condensation as a nebula. When recombined the central part of the globular is simply an over blown mess. I'm following your script to the letter but I'm probably doing something wrong Any suggestions?

  • @DeepSpaceAstro

    @DeepSpaceAstro

    10 ай бұрын

    I haven't tried it with clusters. It may just be they're too close together. Sorry, I know that's not much help.

  • @rogerjoyner3524

    @rogerjoyner3524

    10 ай бұрын

    Well, it's new territory.@@DeepSpaceAstro

  • @tomwall8403
    @tomwall84035 ай бұрын

    Hi Rich. I'm just getting started with SIRIL and your videos are very helpful. I'm a little stuck at 9:30, where you remove the stars. The, "execute" button isn't lit up and can't be selected. Any ideas? Thanks. Tom, Tucson

  • @DeepSpaceAstro

    @DeepSpaceAstro

    5 ай бұрын

    That usually means you don't have Starnet downloaded and configured properly, or if you do, your processor may not have the AVX instruction set. If you're confident you have it setup correctly, watch this video to see if it's the issue with your CPU. kzread.info/dash/bejne/hICqz8WwibuYe5M.html

  • @Bigprior
    @Bigprior Жыл бұрын

    I am so excited for these new features. I hate processing stars and these features look like they will solve a lot of my problems. But I am having an issue with my scope with chromatic aberration on my stars. My images don't have the colours aligned correctly and it causes noticeable issues causing colour bleed on the stars where one side will be tinged blue and the other green or reddish dependant on the stars colour. I believe it's caused by a combination of the scope being an achromatic doublett and that I may not have my back spacing dialled in perfectly. I'm trying to resolve the second cause but its never going to be perfect due to the achromatic optics. I shoot in broadband using a Baader moon and skyglow filter. I mainly chose it because I loved the way it kept natural star colour. But I can't really show it off because of the issues I'm having. Do you know if these new features added could fix this? Or is the only way to fix it post shooting going to be to stack the rgb separately to align them correctly?

  • @DeepSpaceAstro

    @DeepSpaceAstro

    Жыл бұрын

    Not sure how the resynthesis would handle it. They say the star colors won't be lost, but maybe the synthetic stars will have less of the tinged colors. Give it a shot. It runs relatively quickly. Then blend them back in with the recomposition tool. Maybe keep the star mask stretch light will help as well.

  • @harryl9077
    @harryl907711 ай бұрын

    Hey Rich. Howzit? ONLY since recently, Siril became very picky with stacking frames. I had many images as the one you showed in the vid, however since I reloaded 1.2 beta it will not stack frames that have even only slightly elongated stars. So a question, how do you get an image with "badly elongated stars"?? I know, I should do manual stacking, but I only recently moved from piles of mussel shells to the abacus, and one of the upsides of Siril is it has automated script. (-; BTW, do have your coffee with milk?

  • @DeepSpaceAstro

    @DeepSpaceAstro

    11 ай бұрын

    First, I'd recommend installing the latest version of Siril 1.2.0-RC1 although their website is currently down at the moment. Second, take a look at this tip from one of my previous videos and give that a try. kzread.info/dash/bejne/dIOKrqSPpqu6lNI.html. Oh and coffee is always black. ;-)

  • @meianoitee01
    @meianoitee01 Жыл бұрын

    Hey Rich, I heard in one of your videos that you have a M50 MK2, right? Does it support the ASIair plus? I also have a M50 2 and I was thinking about to buy an ASIair, but how the M50 hasn't the intervalometer port. I'm not sure if it can work integrated.

  • @DeepSpaceAstro

    @DeepSpaceAstro

    Жыл бұрын

    I don't think you can use the M50 with the ASIair for the reason you stated, but I could be wrong. You can use a Bluetooth intervalometer app to control the camera though. I just don't think there's a way to tie the two together. If you haven't seen it, I have a video for the intervalometer app and M50.

  • @meianoitee01

    @meianoitee01

    Жыл бұрын

    @@DeepSpaceAstro I was researching about this topic and I found out the ASIair controls the camera through the USB port. It contains a shutter port, but it is not necessary. I also saw in their website that it is compatible with the M6 MK 2. This camera has the same chip as M50 MK 2. I believe it can maybe work. 🤔

  • @DeepSpaceAstro

    @DeepSpaceAstro

    Жыл бұрын

    @@meianoitee01 Nice! Thanks for letting me know your findings!

  • @strandbj
    @strandbj21 күн бұрын

    Great video and your instructions are easy to follow. However, I was trying to apply this to an image of M13 and my starless image of M13 has a blur automatically applied to what remains of M13 and when reconstituted with the star mask, the center of M13 is blurry and looks horrible. Do you know of a technique that can work on star clusters like M13, M4 and others?

  • @DeepSpaceAstro

    @DeepSpaceAstro

    21 күн бұрын

    Thank you! I wouldn't recommend using Starnet to remove the stars from a cluster, and that may be why you're seeing the results that you are. If your stars a elongated in a cluster, I don't have or know of a way to correct that.

  • @strandbj

    @strandbj

    20 күн бұрын

    Thanks for the reply Rich. I didn't explain myself very well. The shot is a wide field shot with a AT72 scope and a Canon 77D. I only cropped it just enough to remove the stacking artifacts, so there is a large star field surround M13 and my problem is with the stars way outside the cluster.

  • @coryscustominstalls7168
    @coryscustominstalls71683 ай бұрын

    hi there i was just wondering if there is a way to apply this to the sequence? or do i need to fix each frame and resave the lights befor stacking... currently my stars are to obong where siril is rejecting all but 7 of 90 frames

  • @DeepSpaceAstro

    @DeepSpaceAstro

    3 ай бұрын

    I don't think so, but maybe this will help with your issue. This link will take you to the part of my tips/trick video that shows a possible solution. kzread.info/dash/bejne/dIOKrqSPpqu6lNI.html

  • @coryscustominstalls7168

    @coryscustominstalls7168

    3 ай бұрын

    thanks that did the trick needed to only drop it to .4 for it to work! learning alot from your channel keep it up @@DeepSpaceAstro

  • @DeepSpaceAstro

    @DeepSpaceAstro

    3 ай бұрын

    Awesome! Thanks!

  • @anata5127
    @anata512710 ай бұрын

    What about avoiding elongated stars during acquisition? By the way, Blur XT does this automatically, even if elongated stars only in corners.

  • @DeepSpaceAstro

    @DeepSpaceAstro

    10 ай бұрын

    Sure, avoiding that or reshooting the image will always be the best solution, and I mentioned that briefly in the video. This is just a way to correct the stars if you can't reshoot, like if you went to a dark site hours away, and didn't realize the stars were elongated. You can fix them since chances are you wouldn't head back out to that site again to reshoot. And yes BlurXterminator can do this, but that's only for PixInsight.

  • @alansheiness8148
    @alansheiness814811 ай бұрын

    I followed these steps for the saturated stars (ie, not script, just menu) and with D-PSF I got one maroon star. I next ran Desaturate Stars but the maroon stayed even after clearing D-PSF tool, then re-selecting, getting maroon again, and even running Desaturate again. On a zoom, I can see the star changing shape on each iteration. Is that just a seriously sick star, keep iterating?

  • @DeepSpaceAstro

    @DeepSpaceAstro

    11 ай бұрын

    Can't say that I've ever seen that happen. It's just one star but it desaturated others and left you with this one?

  • @alansheiness8148

    @alansheiness8148

    11 ай бұрын

    @@DeepSpaceAstro actually on closer inspection, nothing is happening.

  • @alansheiness8148

    @alansheiness8148

    11 ай бұрын

    User error. I was going back to old folders and was starting with .tifs that were pre-stretched output for PS. But if I may… would you Deconvolution first before the Desaturation if wanting to deconvolute (for benefit across the image)?

  • @aston24
    @aston24 Жыл бұрын

    Will it also fix the little star comets caused by coma?

  • @DeepSpaceAstro

    @DeepSpaceAstro

    Жыл бұрын

    Give it a try. I'm not sure.

  • @jesuschrist2284
    @jesuschrist22842 ай бұрын

    Can i ask why osc and not a drizzle pre process?

  • @DeepSpaceAstro

    @DeepSpaceAstro

    2 ай бұрын

    For saturated stars? If that gets you the desired result, then you could do that. This video was just showing the functions of Siril to help with that. There's almost always more than one way to do things. 😉

  • @jesuschrist2284

    @jesuschrist2284

    2 ай бұрын

    @@DeepSpaceAstro i sort of meant in general, but now i realise you were doing it for demo purposes. Really appreciate your videos keep them coming please. Ill catch up eventually such a lot to take in :)

  • @indysbike3014
    @indysbike3014 Жыл бұрын

    Do you think I can use my starlayer from StarXterminator to make them round?

  • @DeepSpaceAstro

    @DeepSpaceAstro

    Жыл бұрын

    Hmm. Maybe. It would have to be a 32bit FIT file for it to have a chance to work. Give it a try and let us know.

  • @indysbike3014

    @indysbike3014

    Жыл бұрын

    @@DeepSpaceAstro Tried it with a starlayer from StarXterminator and it works. First converted the tiff to a fits. I have mixed feelings about the result. Elongated stars are completely gone and are nice and round. But when I add in the nebula the final result looks ’fake’ to me. Maybe it needs some finetuning.

  • @DeepSpaceAstro

    @DeepSpaceAstro

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah I'd agree, it's not perfect, but if you can't reshoot it's probably the only option. A couple of others here said they got good results in Photoshop using the "Less Crunchy More Fuzzy" action from Astronomy Tools. Give that a shot if you have it.

  • @alansheiness8148
    @alansheiness814811 ай бұрын

    Desaturate before Deconvolution, or other way around? Same question for elongated tool?

  • @DeepSpaceAstro

    @DeepSpaceAstro

    11 ай бұрын

    I don't know that it matters. Try it both ways and see what gives the best results.

  • @alansheiness8148

    @alansheiness8148

    11 ай бұрын

    @@DeepSpaceAstro I’m assuming Deconvolution first because the un-deconvoluted star becomes the template for deconvoluting the whole image including nebula contours. But that’s just my guess. Must test.

  • @alansheiness8148

    @alansheiness8148

    7 ай бұрын

    Oddest thing, I was (admittedly rushing) to process an NGC6888. Stacked image (r_pp_*stacked.fit) and when I ran Resynthesize all, the whole nebula disappeared. I've used Resynthesize before on images pre-Starnet removal (I think!)... did I do something stupid, skip a step or something? Reason I was doing this was same logic as Deconvolution... reshape before Starnet to avoid artifacts around the stars if I were to reshape them after Starnet and then not have a good fit when the stars come back in.

  • @_TriffiD_
    @_TriffiD_10 ай бұрын

    Well. I will have to test it more but this function removes elongated stars by replacing them with fitting round drawings of stars. That alone seems a bit questionable, but it also heavily depends on the correct star recognition. And it often recognizes doubles as one star, killing your data. For me, this is not the way. I like pretty pictures but the stars should be correct.

  • @DeepSpaceAstro

    @DeepSpaceAstro

    10 ай бұрын

    True and I'm not saying people don't need to worry about their data. It's just a way to fix bad results if you can't reshoot for some reason.

  • @fabiogervasi982
    @fabiogervasi98211 ай бұрын

    Is there a way not to lose my spikes? Because I use a Newtonian so with the full resythesis I lost my spikes😢

  • @DeepSpaceAstro

    @DeepSpaceAstro

    11 ай бұрын

    I don't believe so, sorry.

  • @fabiogervasi982

    @fabiogervasi982

    11 ай бұрын

    @@DeepSpaceAstro ok thanks for the answer 😊

  • @DeepSkyShed
    @DeepSkyShed4 ай бұрын

    Been trying to script this all day, do you think these stars look natural, they seem too perfect to me?

  • @DeepSpaceAstro

    @DeepSpaceAstro

    4 ай бұрын

    Yep, because they're synthetic. You can add some blur using the gauss command in the console. Something like gauss 1.2. Keep in mind there's no undo for commands issued at the prompt.

  • @DeepSkyShed

    @DeepSkyShed

    4 ай бұрын

    @@DeepSpaceAstro yes, tried that but still not great, really needs convolution but stronger than the deconvolution.

  • @alexandrusimandi1699
    @alexandrusimandi1699 Жыл бұрын

    it seems starnet is down

  • @DeepSpaceAstro

    @DeepSpaceAstro

    Жыл бұрын

    Wow. Yeah looks like it is.

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