The first words when man steps on Mars for the first time, "Thank You Elon Musk, you made this happen."

@colonbina1

19 күн бұрын

Yeah, great statement. I hope we can hear this as soon as possible

@pingpongpaddlehead

19 күн бұрын

You mean the Moon, right? Shouldnt we go there first?

@numberone6955

18 күн бұрын

Sorry to tell you but that's impossible

@pingpongpaddlehead

18 күн бұрын

@@numberone6955 nothing is impossible. but its a long, long way off for sure.

@jroar123

18 күн бұрын

@@numberone6955 I'm sorry but what is impossible?

If anyone can get this to work, it'll be SpaceX. They learn something new with each launch and landing attempt. If this doesn't work as planned, they'll keep at it until they are successful. Go SpaceX!

@mervstash3692

18 күн бұрын

Here is a thought...... call me crazy, but maybe they could work all that sh1t out before they build the thing. Not pray for technological advancement maguffins to solve every issue they didn't account for as they go. That's just faking it until you make it

@MrNote-lz7lh

13 күн бұрын

​@@mervstash3692 What stupid advice. That'd just cause massive delays and expense increase for nothing. There's a reason SpaceX launched more rockets than the rest of the world combined and it's their iterative approach.

How about a separate catch tower without a launch mount out of the way a little

How about landing the booster at a different landing pad? One that has a tower, chopsticks, and landing pad, but which is further away with no critical launch equipment nearby? You still catch the booster, and can transport it where ever needed but do not risk launch equipment or personnel. Similar to the way Falcon 9 boosters are captured by the drone ships. No need to land it on the actual pad it launches from. At least to start with until the capture is perfected.

@Mrfrogboi

18 күн бұрын

It doesn’t matter where u land it no matter where ur at u need a tower and a tower is years if work

@darkstar7999

18 күн бұрын

@@Mrfrogboi Actually, they are building a new tower as we speak. They completed a new one in Florida. And if it only catches the booster, it will be much simpler than a full-up tower, and much easier and quicker to build. Will it be ready next week? No. But by the end of the year it could be, or even sooner. And it wouldn't necessarily be a permanent solution - just until the perfect the catch technology and prove that it is safe, effective, and repeatable.

@Mrfrogboi

18 күн бұрын

@@darkstar7999 I geuss

There is a reason they are building second tower.. just in case first one explodes. They are ready to sacrifice that anyway. Part of progress.

@colonbina1

19 күн бұрын

Hopefully, everything is go smoothly

I believe a separate launch and separate landing tower would be a better idea..

@saikumarganesh6558

19 күн бұрын

Cost would have been the reason, for SpaceX, not to think on this idea, but nevertheless a good one

@colonbina1

19 күн бұрын

I'm agree to you 👍

We need a tower for landing only, for now. This will prevent launch tower and pad damage. If it works just lower in on to the spmt.

@colonbina1

19 күн бұрын

Yeah, but build more tower will help increase launch frequency

Marvelous to see almost science fictional development before our eyes. Awesome job Elon and Space X are accomplishing. While Apollo was fascinating this takes it Literally to another level. Thank you all.

@colonbina1

19 күн бұрын

Yeah, keep following our channel to support SpaceX efforts

I always assumed they would have a separate landing structure. If they use the launch structure and have a RUD, they destroy lots of valuable infrastructure and set back their launch schedule by many months if not a year.

@colonbina1

19 күн бұрын

Yeah, that's worth to consider

3-2-1 boom

Does anyone know the TWR of the 2nd stage after hot staging? Is it above 1?

Why not just build 2 "catch towers" separate from the launch towers. This would prevent damage to launch equipment if problems occur. ?????

@mervstash3692

18 күн бұрын

When your gimmick is supposedly relaunching within a few hours & claim you will do it at 0.01% of the cost of a new rocket, separate catching platforms won't work.

@colonbina1

18 күн бұрын

Yeah, I think they should build more tower

@douginorlando6260

17 күн бұрын

A separate catch tower is has very different requirements than the launch tower so it makes perfect sense to have a dedicated catch tower. For example, the catch tower need only be a third the height of the launch tower, endures only the center raptor exhaust for a short time not 33 raptors for a longer time, no propellent loading/unloading, no careful alignment issues of the stacking process, no quick disconnect of piping and electrical. Only bigoted naysayers would deride the possibility of a catch tower without considering the benefits. But then again, that’s why Elon is successful and his detractors make everything they control fail.

I don't believe it will ever happen. Because it's nuts.

@colonbina1

19 күн бұрын

Let's wait for their next feats

I still think that one Mechazilla tower should be to Launch, and another one to catch.

@colonbina1

19 күн бұрын

Yeah, I'm agree to you

Something No Ones talking about / mentioning is : Given the Repercussions / shock waves / launching rocket engine blasts - which is mainly Focused on the OLM and Water Deluge Pad... That Won't be the case with the Rocket Exhaust during capture with the Chopsticks...!?? Rocket engine back blast will be " Spraying " the area next to the OLM...!! Just thought I'd pass that " Heads Up " along to the SpaceX Engineers ... In case they haven't thought about that yet..

Hi Kevin I hope all is well for You.

Good morning

@colonbina1

19 күн бұрын

Have a nice day, bro🤗

They will never catch a booster. The idea is so absurd, only Elon Musk could have thought of it.

@stevemayes50

18 күн бұрын

😂 it’s crazy isn’t it? It’s gonna awesome if it works though.

SpaceX and Starship will go through a few more test flights before they attempt a landing capture. Elon Musk will give humans (all of Earth) a second chance by the way of a second planet (or more) place to call home. Everyone should be proud of what is happening with SpaceX.

@colonbina1

19 күн бұрын

Yeah, let's following their efforts and wait for their next feats ☺️

Does anybody remember there's a Launchtower without OLM leaning around somewhere in Florida. Maybe thats were .. .

@colonbina1

19 күн бұрын

😯😯😯

Deploy a parachute as temporary falling till from a ground height then rockets turn on ,bottom weighted for balance

I can see catching the Booster and the Starship tanker with the OLM from a workflow standpoint as long as there is zero ... zero ... maintenance. However, the Starship will need to have new cargo loaded which takes non-zero time. So, seems the OLM will catch the returning Starship and then immediately transfer it to a mobile transport every time for reloading cargo away from the tower. SpaceX engineering approach is to eliminate steps so ... Seems better to have a "catch-only" OLM or just engineer a mobile transport (also provides the "legs" to attach to the hard points on the Starship) to catch the Starship. I wonder if it is a center of mass decision ... the chop sticks would be closer to the center of mass of the returning Starship (or booster) ... which would reduce tip over risk.

Idea 1 . Try a hopper flight. Launch a booster to say 10000 ft return to catch with arms. Idea 2 try a hop with a falcon 9. Catch with arms. Idea 3 Put some leg mechanism borrowed from Falcon 9. Land at one of the pads.

@colonbina1

19 күн бұрын

Which idea do you like the most?😂

The animations of the booster descending onto the chopsticks are wrong. Simple physics. The base with the Raptor engines moves laterally to guide the top, with the lifting points, onto the arms. Think of balancing a broom vertically on one finger....

@colonbina1

19 күн бұрын

Thanks for your great comment 👍

Space x deberia de construir otra torre pero que sea especializada para atrapar el booster y no poner en riesgo toda la estructura

It is looking more and more like he needs a tower just for catching starship away from the tank farm one to catch one to launch 2 different setups

@mervstash3692

18 күн бұрын

Can't relaunch then. That's his whole claim

Time will tell.

If it explodes on the site on time landing Booster, the FAA not delyaed next Starship launches?

@Ariel-om5fh

19 күн бұрын

Please, this is a wild fantasy so no pointing-out complicating factors.

@colonbina1

19 күн бұрын

Hopefully, everything will go smoothly

I think why not use an external tubular ring that covers 360º with a ring like a full nail to use as a rigid contact point.

@colonbina1

19 күн бұрын

Great question. Keep discussing this on our channel ☺️

SpaceX can launch just the booster or just the ship and practice catching it anytime they want. License required of course.

I wonder if they are planning to feed the data from the booster to the tower and have it react in real time, as if it is catching a "virtual" booster. To see if the chopsticks move to the right position and with sufficient speed. Booster is returning to the virtual tower in the ocean, and the tower is catching the virtual image of that booster

Special secret: they want to demolish the tower anyway

Perfect idea!(separate landing ring tower) Keep all destruction by misadventure to a minimum and add some stabilizing legs as well. Chopsticks are designed for stacking, not catching. Equipment misuse by adding unnecessary stress will cause component stress and fatigue or failure. A giant net would be better than attempting this variable risk. 🎉🎉

@colonbina1

19 күн бұрын

Let's wait for their plans to create a successful landing☺️

@chrisjordan7592

19 күн бұрын

@@colonbina1 👍

landing Falcons how many times on ships at sea? ... a static target will be child's play!

@mervstash3692

18 күн бұрын

I saw this lad do a backflip with his bike. He should be able to do one with a truck easy.

If SpaceX atempts a booster catch landing this year they better have the "2nd" tower assembeled and ready for launches. Otherwise it will close to a year or longer before the next launch. Even if the 2nd tower is completed but the 2nd OLM is not they could possibly maybe use the 2nd tower to catch the booster

@colonbina1

19 күн бұрын

Yeah, hopefully they can build new launch tower soon

@jason_m_schmidt622

18 күн бұрын

If SpaceX wanted they apply for a license and launch just a booster or just a ship to practice catching it with the tower arms.

It’s like the shuttle, you only get one chance to nail the landing can’t go around and try again just like the space shuttle!

It would seem to be quite risky , at least during the initial attempts. Perhaps a tower with chopsticks and not the stage zero part. It would be a lot cheaper to build and operate as it would not require much in infrastructure. After some number of successful catches they could use the current tower.

@colonbina1

19 күн бұрын

👍👍👍

Why no reentry burn.? Just a landing burn. Lessons learned from Falcon 9.

@colonbina1

19 күн бұрын

Reentry burn is more suitable to describe the Ship

@Ariel-om5fh

19 күн бұрын

@@colonbina1 The last booster came down from 106 km altitude and accelerated to 4,340 km/h by 23 km altitude during re-entry, where atmospheric friction finally began to slow it down slightly as it fell deeper into the atmosphere. 106 km is space. There was a burn to slow it down after separation. It crashed because there was no burn to slow it down to subsonic before it passed through 10 km altitude.

SpaceX could safely eliminate lots of risk by raising the booster onto the chopsticks and then fire 3 engines to fly 10 meters up, then land on the chopsticks. This would reveal potential problems including control, touchdown speeds. Amount of propellent required for landing, consequence of landing with excess propellent weight on safe touchdown velocity, potential damage to booster and chopsticks upon inaccurate alignment or touchdown speed, stability issues of the booster swinging like a pendulum after touchdown, and other unforeseen problems.

@morph3usredpill112

19 күн бұрын

perplexed as to why not have a separate landing tower away from all the main infrastructure until they nail the landings.... at least then they wont impact any future launches due to damage.

@douginorlando6260

19 күн бұрын

If SpaceX finds problems with booster landings early on, then they can incorporate necessary solutions into the 2nd tower before it is completed.

@mervstash3692

18 күн бұрын

​@@morph3usredpill112it's too late for that now. 3 years behind schedule, 3 huge failures and huge risk of being scrubbed from Artemis entirely if there is another 1-2 fails. If that happens, there is nothing left for Starship besides Starlink Satellites. It's kind of an all or nothing situation.

I still feel further developing and combining the improved Raptor engines with Falcon Heavy would have sufficed, using all this money building modular stations, lunar ferries and planetary cruisers from there on without the use of methane as fuel beyond orbit. The logistics of moving Falcon rockets around barely outweighs the cost and time developing launch towers and larger rockets refuelling. They could have landed on the moon already, producing oxygen & hydrogen and building a vessel for a Mars mission in earth orbit.

With no water deluge system for the booster catch and starship catch it will destroy that tower and OLM just like that first launch

@jaslll4396

18 күн бұрын

The first tower is in need of retrofitting so SpaceX can risk destroying it as they need to disassemble parts of it to upgrade it to handle version 3 of the Starship. Tower 1 will be too short and maybe more design change will happen as Starship version 3 will be heavier and maybe a larger diameter.

@timaustin77x

18 күн бұрын

It won’t land with 33 engines firing

@chiefankama7999

18 күн бұрын

@jaslll4396 I did not know this, it makes sense thanks

@chiefankama7999

18 күн бұрын

@timaustin77x Yes, you are correct, but when you think about that thing landing, it's like a blowtorch heating up whatever is underneath it.

The precision required to land on a bobbing raft has been accomplished many times. Ever step on a boat from a pier. Not so easy first time. They have that automated. For this they just need wind and Earth's rotation.

@colonbina1

19 күн бұрын

Yeah, it's so challenging but I believe SpaceX can overcome this to make new glories

I would love to hear from Elon how exactly the virtual tower thing is, how does it works , I would like to know how this will be simulated

@mervstash3692

18 күн бұрын

Slow down, hover, splash. You might be over thinking it.

Musk should spend more time re-designing the tiny tiny, nearly useless landing legs for the moon shot so it won't tip over like the last two landings did.

@douginorlando6260

19 күн бұрын

Yes, it should be spec’ed to handle a range of conditions (lateral velocity, touch down velocity, boulders 10 feet high under one or two legs, 20 degree slope. After it succeeds landing, future design could tighten the range of conditions based on experience and thereby reduce weight and complexity of future missions.

@mervstash3692

18 күн бұрын

Dude go actually look at the 2 craft, look at the size of their landing legs, then come back & explain that dumb thing you just said. If Moon shots legs are tiny, when they extend just as wide as it is tall, then WTF are those chodes sticking out the bottom of Starship? The thing is like 100 times taller than what they extend.

No confidence in catching the booster. I would do legs first at least. They couldn't even get catching the fairings with a net thing right and turns out letting them land in the ocean with a parachute was the right thing to do.

I don't know why SpaceX keeps wanting to catch the starship and booster using the chopsticks. Just one miss and the whole area around the launch pad along with the tower will be severely damaged and take who knows how long to repair. Looks cute to catch them- from an engineer perspective makes no sense at all.

@k29king1

18 күн бұрын

Because they can perfect it. They will also ideally have at least 2 other launch towers as Elon said they have planned, and have you been watching how they perfected Falcon 9 landings, and side booster landings? Clearly you have not been paying attention.

@zarl5238

18 күн бұрын

@k29king1 Falcon 9 is different from Starship and have not been caught by chopsticks or have u not been paying attention to the sizes. Having 2 towers still makes no sense- would really like to see the reactions from those chopstick praises when the tower is destroyed.

@mervstash3692

18 күн бұрын

The gimmick is reusability. Every Starship that needs to leave orbit will need up to 20 additional Starships to refuel it. For that to happen, they need them to launch them all in quick succession. He thinks this will allow the best chance for quick turn around with the smallest amount of damage. I'm with you though, it can only end in disaster. That whole site will get nuked. They still can't turn around a Falcon anywhere near the time they are talking about doing it for Starship. So it's all kind of fruitless. They can't take 2 years to refill every Starship that they want to use either.

As an engineer I cannot see this whole exercise as anything much more than a publicity stunt. The hazard of catching a booster or space craft in mid-air has the effect of giving zero value to any efficiency gain. If you land, land safely nearby - why risk expensive infrastructure of the minor gain of not remounting the booster to the pad? Being able to make 10 launches a day? In a mushroom-driven Musk dream is all I can say! Musk is great at pushing the edges on some technical things because the physics allows evolution in that direction, but also giving him room to bullshit further on more spectacular claims.

@COORS5766

19 күн бұрын

You sound like a jealous person talking about a man with such vision you can't comprehend his genius! 3 years ago booster rockets were dumped in the ocean, still are by everyone other than SpaceX who lands them now with pin point accuracy and reuses each booster! Just because your pea brained mind can't fathom what MUSK WILL accomplish, move on! "As an engineer"... LMFAO Remember engineers can draw/design an asshole, but can't make it work!

@zefirowy

18 күн бұрын

There is one good reason for doing that: not dragging dead weight of legs to LEO and back.

@mervstash3692

18 күн бұрын

​@@COORS5766which page of the Musk Cult members handbook did you copy past that from? You lads all parrot the same dribble word for word. No different to the delusion a flat earther experiences

@COORS5766

18 күн бұрын

@@mervstash3692 Musk has accomplished everything he said he was going to do, even surpassed expectations! SpaceX has disrupted business as usual in the space industry, if they don't start doing what SpaceX is doing, file for bankruptcy! The IDIOTS at NASA spend 20X more of TAXPAYERS money per launch than Musk does! Musk's proven reuse of boosters, never thought possible is normal now and extremely efficient! The first commenter is worried about Musk/SpaceX destroying a launch pad, do you think Musk gives a rats ass about the expense of that? If it costs him $100million to repair, he will make that $$ back in interest before the repair hits the planning board! Love how so called engineers that DO NOT work for him are jealous of his progress and his get it done no matter the cost attitude! He is an engineers dream to work for, but some engineers lack vision and BALLS, hence sitting home on their laptop complaining about Musk!

Humm, The arms move too slowly.

FUNNY LANDING IDEA --->>> One way they could assure a soft landing is to land the booster, or spaceship, AT HIGH ALTITUDE, inside a grid segment of cables that will entangle on the grid fins. The cables have parachutes attached that deploy via altitude sensors. The grid of super strong nylon strap type cables is held in a horizontal plane at a high altitude target area via a plurality of Helium balloons that are position assisted by multi-prop drones. They could be maintained at high altitude space, several grids at a time almost like satellites. The chutes can be remotely detached from the cables. Instead of chutes use autogiro blades. It would be like a dart board game where instead of throwing the darts at a target; you throw the target at the falling dart! Actually it would be a dual coordination.

@colonbina1

19 күн бұрын

Great idea 👍

@clavo3352

19 күн бұрын

@@colonbina1 Aww Thanks !

No real point to catching a booster until they fly one they want to re-fly. No point blowing up the tower.

Elon said a bunch of dumb sh1t at that event. This wasn't even the most ridiculous

Why don't the grid fins on the booster tilt vertically as well as horizontally to create drag with Pitch, Roll & Yaw control? Like on falcon 9 but with upward drag tilt. Come to Jesus as Temp is rising first & CO2 follows. Cause & effect on a closed CO2 loop planet that is spinning faster.

@normanharris1092

18 күн бұрын

planes and boosters fly differently.

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@ToyotaKTM

18 күн бұрын

That's why I don't make my lizard wear his safety vest when it's raining! God darn it.

@mervstash3692

18 күн бұрын

I see what you are doing. Fictional characters with daddy issues lines. I'll go next. "Luke, I am your father".

Elon is making a mistake “Land” it at sea AT LEAST twice before trying to catch it for real.

@colonbina1

19 күн бұрын

They succeed with Falcon rockets, so they can do this with Starship

Just put some fkn legs on it! How much payload would they actually lose?

@normanharris1092

18 күн бұрын

not a bad idea, but the legs would be right under starship and that's valuable space!

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@colonbina1

19 күн бұрын

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Bs is as BS does. And musk is full of it

@ludwigvanzappa9548

19 күн бұрын

Totally agree!

@MrNote-lz7lh

13 күн бұрын

​@@ludwigvanzappa9548 Then you are both idiots.

Goodbye olm. That’s if it makes it

@colonbina1

19 күн бұрын

I believe they will have plan to avoid damage

@MickHealey

19 күн бұрын

​@@colonbina1 Here's my guess at a disaster avoidance plan. If the final approach to the launch tower deviates too far from the nominal landing trajectory, then SpaceX could fire up more engines to send the booster into the ocean for a hard water "landing".

I'll have my popcorn ready. I see a disaster in the works.

Nothing new hear just click bait over and over again you are boring so i will now unsubscribe goodbye

Land it into a tube.