ELLEN IS INSANE! Ultimate Guide & Showcase! Best Teams, W-Engines, Drives and MORE!
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Zenless Zone Zero is out so you know what that means! FULL CHARACTER GUIDES AND SHOWCASES! Today's will be on Ellen Joe, the first new featured S-Rank agent! Ellen Joe is an incredible Ice Attacker DPS character in Zenless Zone Zero version 1.0. In this video, we'll go over everything you need to know, including her full kit, best W-Engines, Drives, Mindscapes / Cinema / Constellations, Teams, and MORE!
0:00 | Overview and Content
1:14 | Kit Breakdown
6:29 | W-Engines
8:14 | Drives and Stats
11:13 | Teammates
12:49 | My Opinion and Showcase
#hoyocreators #zzzero #Ellen
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A couple updates since making this guide: 1. For Bangboos, both Butler and Sharkboo are good. Penguinboo is good in the early game. 2. Everyone will get Soukaku for free, so ignore the part where I talk about if you don't have Soukaku. 3. For talent priority, after using her a lot more on launch, despite it sheeting low in an optimal rotation, in practice I recommend leveling her Dodge (dash/scissors) after her Basics and/or Chain. This is where practicality and calcs differ. 3. 🦈
@vladys001
7 күн бұрын
What about Bangboo options? I can see you are using Sharkboo, but what about Butler - is it good if I have Rina, but not Lycon? What about A options?
@eldenjim
7 күн бұрын
@@vladys001 Butler can work in almost any team, but might not be the most optimal for Ellen anymore since they removed its Crit lol Sharkboo is BiS, but the A-tier Ice Penguinboo isn’t nearly as good. Not bad, but too niche to be worth heavily investing in for its power level. Paperboo is a great A-tier that fits in literally any team. It helps gather and control enemies, while the taunt itself is actually an indirect DPS gain because you just get to freely beat on enemies for 2-4 seconds every now and then.
@Vengieo
6 күн бұрын
I still don't see why team order matters. I can on controller R1 and L1 to pick who I switch too. Am I missing something?
@eldenjim
6 күн бұрын
@@Vengieo it does, because defensive assists & quick assist triggers (like Soukaku’s buff) always cycle to the right. If you don’t have any buffs or synergies you’d want on a particular unit, it’s fine (if slightly suboptimal) to put your agents in any order you like. As an example, though, if you want to buff Ellen with Soukaku’s quick assist trigger, you’d need to place Ellen after Soukaku. Doesn’t matter where, so you could even do Ellen | (anyone) | Soukaku!
@vladys001
6 күн бұрын
@@Vengieo left click and right click, when you trigger switch attack, space to swap to the next character in order and trigger counterattack
watching this makes me realize how much i don’t know how to play this game at all
@ferdgerbeler8494
8 күн бұрын
watching this makes me realize how much i don’t want to play this game at all
@randompoorlydrawndragon3076
8 күн бұрын
@@ferdgerbeler8494 average lazy person
@Qdawwg
8 күн бұрын
@@randompoorlydrawndragon3076 its not laziness lol, we are in the gold age of gacha i have too many other quality games to play. ZZZ had low expectations and still failed to meet them (for alot of players not all). For a combat focused game i had hoped the combat would be more engaging
@oberonvortigern4138
8 күн бұрын
@@QdawwgBro the game just came out stfu 😂
@Qdawwg
8 күн бұрын
@@oberonvortigern4138 that's why i specified not all players, its fine to like the game but many wont make it past launch day. I like wuwa but ill admit even wuwa had this problem, many players didnt make it past launch it the same for any game. I will be interested to see the July revenue charts maybe zzz will cook u could be right, im not hating its just not for me
Ngl this game caught me off guard, i like it way more than i thought i would.
@m.elhaj.98
5 күн бұрын
Yeah its refreshing and flashy
@HerbIntake
5 күн бұрын
Honestly same 😢 finally I can put genshin down
@ankitjadhav6775
5 күн бұрын
Love it more than Wuwa now, Lost interest in wuwa.
@user-ol4xy6jk9o
3 күн бұрын
Yes , i kinda tired of Chinese theme in wuwa . Names like jianxhi ir whatever. Dragons, Chinese dresses... Bruh. The hip hop vibe os more fun
@wendysmith5728
2 күн бұрын
I thought so too! I don't know what it is about zzz but I am so hooked!
Short hair, maid outfit. And most important, SHARK TAIL!!!! I found my dream girl
@ONE-q4l
2 күн бұрын
I agree
@smartkking4984
2 күн бұрын
Sharkbooboo
12:46 Soukaku is free via the shiyu defense btw, so everyone will have her
@HappyPepe5
5 күн бұрын
Ya she is free but i havent beat shiyu defense yet, time to get good. 🥹
I’m so glad that they enabled the game to have framerates greater than 60. Been loving the game with the smoother refresh rate.
@vareyx
8 күн бұрын
not on mobile :((
@johnnyappleseed4279
8 күн бұрын
Same, that’s always been a con for me with mihoyo games. Game feels super smooth and responsive
@Aman_Mondal
7 күн бұрын
@@johnnyappleseed4279HI3rd had 120fps on PC
@cheesepantsgaming1964
7 күн бұрын
How do you enjoy it? I have to dig through dialogs and tv. I only enjoy the 20 seconds of fighting but have to go through tv animations and dialogs.
@jyuu6650
7 күн бұрын
@@cheesepantsgaming1964fun is subjective. Next week we’ll learn about differing opinions 😧
I dolphin'd for shark, lost my first 50/50 to Lycaon, and picked up M6 Soukaku in the process. Fate has spoken, I guess I know what team I'm building lol.
@Yusei255
8 күн бұрын
you didn't really have to dolphin, as those 100 free pulls we got guarantes her on 90 pulls.
@hikarugenji1737
8 күн бұрын
@@Yusei255I mean. Now he can use those 100 pulls on weapon or next character
@cowgba
7 күн бұрын
That was exactly my thought process lol, I want her engine too since she doesn't currently have a strong F2P backup option. Plus I lost the 50/50 to Lycaon so the free pulls wouldn't have guaranteed her for me😅
@Yusei255
7 күн бұрын
@@cowgba but dont you get a guaranteed at 90 though
@cowgba
7 күн бұрын
@@Yusei255 You're guaranteed to get a 5 star within 90 pulls, but ZZZ still uses the 50/50 system from Genshin and HSR. When you get a 5 star you have a 50% chance to get the featured character and a 50% chance to get one of the standard 5 star characters. If you "lose the 50/50" and get a standard character, your next 5 star character is guaranteed to be the featured character. Once you get a featured 5 star character it goes back to being a 50/50 again for your next 5 star.
Trigger dash -- Charged -- Spam Basic -- Spam E -Sincerely,someone who doesn't know wtf is going on
I manage to pull her finally on my 80th attempt! Although I wasn't so lucky with her weapon sadly but I wont complain is a miracle that being totally f2p player manage to get her on her 50-50. Thanks for the guide!
Leveling Ellen’s Dodge also scales her charged attacks’ damage and daze application pretty significantly (which usually isn’t properly reflected on damage breakdowns) so I’d put it at a slightly higher priority than her Special Attack. While Sharknado hits as hard as her B3 in a shorter timeframe, it doesn’t actually scale off of anything else in her kit. It’s also not always available, nor is it optimal to always use it even if it were. The increased multipliers from leveling her Special Attack just don’t have the potential to impact the fight as often, as easily, nor as passively as the boost to her charged attacks. In my opinion, the most valuable thing about her E is the instant B3. It’s much more noticeable than the skill damage itself because it has allowed me to close out many fights earlier than I should have. I’d still level the skill eventually if I had materials to spare, though.
Yooo best guide ive found. Had my butt go back to training mode! Greatly appreciate this guide
LETS GOOOO!! so excited to try and pull for her
that bite loop had me fascinated good call on putting that under your explanation.
great and insightful vid as always! would it be possible to make a vid comparing ellen to the next limited character? i doubt ill get her and her wengine so i was thinking of full saving to hopefully guarantee the next limited and their wengine!
Nice gameplay at the end!
OMG, THANK YOU honestly. I got her but I can't seem to work her "flash freezer" until I watched this. 😅
Game's animations are looks cool. I never tried the games other than open world RPGs and game like god of war, Tomb raider series but will try it after sometimes. And your videos are always clean and informative. Kudos to you. I am seeing so many hate comments and i can understand some of them but i feel like many of them never even tried the game but just spouting some nonsense with the videos they were watching and the informations they were heard from others. This game is targeted for different audiences. something you don't like it may loved by someone. What you guys making were not a constructive criticism but a plain hate.
I got her in my first 10 pull so I... lol i wish. Needed 2 x 70+ pulls to get her, now aiming for the weapon, hope I wont lose again if it works like this. Still good a usefull guide, defiently gonna use this to play her better.
So, I finally got Ellen's W-Engine today, but I am a bit confused on the text. Basic attacks give you a crit rate buff, and then dash attacks give you an ADDITIONAL crit rate buff, but then at the end it says each value is calculated separately. Does it matter what order I attack in to get the buffs? Do I HAVE to do a basic attack and then dash attack to activate the 20% total crit rate buff? Or, can I do the loop you're meant to do with Ellen and dash attack first, and then basic?
Omg I got her in my first 10 pull! Literally the first time this has happened in any gacha. I mean I deserve it after losing my first 4 50/50’s in HSR. 😮🎉
Hi nice job on the vidéo ! I just pulled Ellen, what do you think should be the priority: getting her W-engine or getting Lycaon ?
I got ellen and lycaon from 40 pulls, pulling for her w engine. I cant believe i got so lucky
Without Lycaon if I have Soukaku and Rina. Is it viable to go 1 damage and 2 suppirt with Ellen Soukaku and Rina or should I really use a break (Anby)?
Lost the 50/50 to soldier 11 on my first multi. Still pulling for Ellen.
You are truly what a content creator should be, very informative and funny,,, great video keep it up :)) I have a question, can I put (lycaon -suk - ellen ) in this order or ellen should be first ?
@sciencethygod
2 күн бұрын
As long as Suk is before Ellen either by having Ellen first and Suk last or the way you want it, you always want Suk to chain into Ellen for the 1000 ap buff. preferably Ellen first so chains end on her.
Got her first muti I’m not gonna spend until they bring out a penguin fr
@GoodieSenpai
7 күн бұрын
Same. Got lucky on first multi. Debating on getting weapon. Or saving for another character
@masasih5364
7 күн бұрын
Same bro, im confusing use my resource for gacha weapon or next char
@caniluban2578
5 күн бұрын
Penguinboo
@knightmare1874
Күн бұрын
@@caniluban2578think they meant a penguin playable unit
@ljxr2745
Күн бұрын
@@masasih5364 id say u save, she honestly will probably get power crept and there will be characters that you will like and want to pull in the future
The unlimited FPS CHANGED EVERYTHING, extremely helpful for frame parry/dodge game like this
I lost the 50:50 to Rina as f2p q_q is it worth to keep pulling or should I better wait now? My starter 5 star was Koleda
I just kept hearing lightcone instead of Lycaon 😆
IWTL would you do these vids for the standard 5 stars too?
IM PREPARED TO GET LYCONE!! I just use rina for now :[ I was already running ellen rina and soukaku anyway
I got Nekomata in my 50th standard pull and I only played for Lycaon. Then I pulled in the premium banner and got Ellen at 24 pity. As of now I still am targeting for Lycaon, so at least I have a perfect duo. I'll be sticking with Nekomata and Billy for her as I'll be playing casual anyways, no end game big boss battles for now when everyone is still at the step of learning the basics~
abput the roaming hunt part, what do you mean double right click, when I press double rmb nothing happens
I got Ellen by pure luck on my first 10 pull so now I’ve been trying to build her so thanks for the guide!
@rogerdodger1984
5 күн бұрын
Ok
Evil Gura
@happyapple6976
8 күн бұрын
Fr lol
@karsnogen8141
8 күн бұрын
How dare you insult her. Ellen is way better
@adlindorsal9877
7 күн бұрын
Gawr, but nah she looks like her big sister or something.
@kyuzairen5383
7 күн бұрын
Evil Gura is canon tho
@happyapple6976
7 күн бұрын
@@karsnogen8141 nah
Where did u find that W-engines table?
The game has been so nice to me.. they gave me lycaon as my first 5* then i got a 5* engine for him too.. then i got c6 soukaku then ellen came home 😅😅
I was Saving for Miyabi ,i wanted some soukaku Cons but Got her in a 10 pull so i came here, didn't want her so I will Still Build Her as F2P would. Hope she still deals Decent Dmg with a low Inv build(lmao i think my C1 Rina is gonna be Useful for someone else of diff element)
Darnn i just got my second pity in standard and was manifesting lycaon but instead i got his weapon. Welp im gonna have him in the selector in 1 year 💀
so my accidental c1 lycaon is actually useful?
Got Tina and Ellen off the banner off 4 Multics it’s feels good
I got two lycoan and 5 star engine for stunner, think i will use that account and try to pull for ellen. My other acc has ellen and soakaku m6 but no lycoan. 😅
hi @iwintolose are you planning to do live stream for Imaginary Theater?
i dont have lycaon what is a good alternative for now??
i got the Wolf man so now i have to get her
@steffanocornejo6129
4 күн бұрын
That's actually good. He's a nice partner to her. If you use them correctly you can constantly do chain attacks which will melt enemies thx to her.
Got her in 20 pulls. Now I'm aiming for her w engine
i have both ellen and von, its like the game wants me to use her
Any advice on bangboo?
I'm using anby and the puppet maid puppet maid doesn't buff ellen at all outside of weapons and artifact sets but she does buff anby a lot and anby can deal respectable damage plus this way everyone is smiling I need lycaon tho
I got lycaon in 4 pulls, ellen in 20 and brimstone in 7. Not bad :P Also got lycaon's wengine at standard pity.
@FayolaOnline
2 күн бұрын
nice rolls, my w-engine rolls sucked bigtime.
is anyone having the same problem of stuck at verifying file integrity? I tried absolutely everything to fix it
why is doge and sou whatever her name not switched in position is daze note better?
for a f2p that already got ellen, do you recommend to try and get her weapon? or just save for future characters?
@FayolaOnline
2 күн бұрын
Honestly for f2p, I'd wait for another character. Ultimately, you'll get more out of a new character than a w-engine for a character.
@semmy6673
Күн бұрын
Go for the W engine
stuck with this game a little longer and it’s grown on me - trying to wait on pulling Ellen until second half of 1.1 is revealed
what bangboo is the best for her? my team consists of ellen, lycaon and soukaku. I don't have rina should I go with butler or sharkboo?
@knightmare1874
Күн бұрын
Penguin does ice and anomaly build up iirc, butler gives energy. So its up to your playstyle, do you use the skills a lot, go butler, do you just want extra dmg, penguin
Does anyone know the Damage formulas for ZZZ? Both for Anomalies and Crits.
i accidentally got her on 1st ten pull , and here i am
knowing how to play Lycaon is one of the way to maximize her dmg cuz his impact building is insane! note; Lycaon Special is holdable and it do much more stagger point and it give you
I got get S1 in 20 pulls. Very glad since all her 4 star options seem lackluster.
I hope i got her
What should my skill priority before ellen?
Even without her signature w-engine she still slaps hard.
they need to fix the issue with the exploration quest, you literally can't move after you pick up that weight thing, you can't even get to the switcvh.
I’m pulling for her weapon, already got E6 soukaku and with koleda she is amazing and I like the variety of combos, nekomata is cool but she’s quite boring to play.
i have her and her sig weapon but i guess im just using her without knowing anythiny at all lmao
How do I get Ellen?
i dont have lycanon. will it be ok to use coleda or it be better to use anby? like ellen-coleda/anby-soukaku
My ZZZ is still downloading 😭
Please can somebody explain her kit to me in genshin terms i begging you, and in terms of strength how strong she is?
1:22 Im pulling if that 1st hit basic attck sounds like that
I feel like order is wrong, why wouldn’t you put stun first support second and atk third, the regular switches are far better in terms of stun to break support to buff alter to atk
Ellen's design is too cool to be powercrept she'll always remain the coolest furry imo
@An_dres_art
5 күн бұрын
She will always be meta as long as they release good supports, and she already have one, so she’s not on the same spot than venti or Klee, hoyoverse now includes personal supports for each dps so they will be always an spot for them in the meta.
@Kagetora-
4 күн бұрын
She's not a furry. Lycaon is
Would Grace work instead of Lycaon?
got her on my 3rd pull, i am extremely happy rn
Thisbreminds me of that one character on tower of fantsay ice girl buy dual blade
Can you do an Piper or Lucy guide please 🥺
What would you recommend between her C1 and sig weapon?
@earthling_0.1
5 күн бұрын
Sig
Do the wolf dude next
dayum, I got the whole team except for Ellen
what about bangboo for team? shark or butler?
Ellen, Rina, Soukaku. Will this option work?
how is ellen lycaon rina? or does shokaku over rina do noticeably more?
damn i need to get lightcone
There is no free limited Baner 10 pull
bro you are going to make guide for billy?
14:13 how did you parry that?
Yay early love you iwintolose
can i run Ellen, Rina and Soukaku?
you made a whole ass code for this video?? iwtl effort is insane
You could say Lycaon is Ellen's best in slot "lightcone"
How do sharks sleep if they’re constantly moving?
I don’t have the wolf guy but rina instead, what is the best replacement for him?
@hanipierce5710
6 күн бұрын
Rina can work there cuz they're both from the same faction so they activate each other's abilities
Goodnight Seele.
Should I use Rina or Soukaku?
Yeah ellen is insane.. IF I HAVE HER!!!
a guide on soukaku ?
Can u do solder 11 dps build
Damn. I am only missing lycaon
11:27 Ones just Evil Gawr Gura in a maid outfit, the other is *_ a demon_*, and the last one is an actual furry.
As an ftp I’m happy I’m lucky and got the three fury team
@FayolaOnline
2 күн бұрын
haha, so catgirl, sharkgirl and wolfboy? do shark ppl count as furries, are there scallies or finnies or whatever for non-mammals or does furry encompass all? Im out of the loop.