My wife watched your video and saw your bench, and then told me to go clean all of the shit off mine so I could use it instead of the kitchen table. 😮😂😂 … thanks man 😉

@jasontownsend1985

Ай бұрын

Shit i thought i was the only one lol

Not what I was expecting, sick setup!

Just had my shop build a dozen of the match grade sonics. Absolutely love them! Great arrow!

My .02 which is me doing me. Slick Trick all day. Shot many animals with 2 blades and no matter how good of a shot I always struggle with a good blood trail. Good luck Big Dan!

Love the videos brother! Long time watcher. Love seeing you having the kids involved too! Being a dad myself of a young boy this is what it’s all about.

@ElkShape

Ай бұрын

It's the best! #DADLIFE

Can't wait to see if you stick with this setup! I took two doe last season with the sonics, one with qad full and one with 2 inch sevr. 485 grains 72 pounds 29 dl mathews vertix. Love these arrows also use them for indoor season keep up the ABT

So glad to see you going back to Easton! I will be building some AXIS Match Grade with IW components for this season. The Sonics are solid! 👊

@ElkShape

Ай бұрын

AGREED!

At this point, with that short of an arrow, you might as well buy stock crossbow bolts and change the nocks. J/k j/k love your stuff Dan. I'll be building both my elk and whitetail arrows soon. Can't wait to see what you finally settle on.

Hey Dan, nice to see you testing the match 6.0 sonics out , I have them with a right helical 4 vane set up with V3 vanes at 440 gr, using the 50gr brass and 100gr wasp jackhammers (white-tail hunter) My 29in draw , 75lbs VXR are 303fps just started using them this year! Iam deff gunna stick with them! They are doing great!

Would like to see you throw some gold tips in the mix. I’m considering quantum’s but I’ve been shooting the pierce series for the last year and can’t complain about them

I’ve shot the Easton Bloodlines (Sonics replaced them) in the 240 spine ever since they came out. Great affordable arrow! Good luck this year Dan!

My first preparation is ELK COUNTY ARCHERY CHALLENGE(cross fit meet rucking and 3d targets all in one setup) here in Pa again. I almost went with these. Opted back to GT velocity XT. Both are beautiful pieces of art wrapped into a meat missile. Joy's of the switch weight bc I've built 380gr arrows for the event but I hunt with 73 to 74lb so mod swap and back in business with my hunting arrow basically GT hunter XT. The tunes been the same nearly but a micro click here or there. Past 10 plus years shot all the 4mm and 5 mm.. past 2 yrs went back to 6mm and honestly not seen a drastic change at distance even with winds. Form is king and proper setup is queen. Keep on rocking it out man

That’s a lot of FOC. Will be interesting to see how they fly

Im so happy to see you going back to higher FOC builds. None of that 15%.

@ElkShape

Ай бұрын

Haha! I think 15% is good, but being higher doesn't hurt my feelings for sure! Thanks for watching!

I built a dozen of the .003, used the brass at 75. I love them, but I’m a little worried about my inserts being brass. looking forward to see if they hold up for you.

I ran those in 300 spine, 50 grain brass and 125 grain head. Right at 15% foc and pretty dang good for me. The only reason I switched back to 5mm this year is to use up the ones I have so I can order and better a different setup. Only thing I would switch is move up to 150grain heads. Bad ass arrows

Well I just bought the x10 parallel pro because of you, I got the full titanium 100 from eastern which iron will do you suggest? What weight that is? Oh I also got the AAE HYBRID ELK SHAPE AND ELK HUNER for them. I’ll keep you updated thanks in advance for teaching me with your videos 🙏🏽

How many shots would you say are on your strings for you to change them? Or is it more of the elements from hunting that’s worn them down?

How’d the mod saw do? Didn’t make the cut?

I’m running the Sonics, true helical to the left, with the 50 grain insert. Shooting lasers with them. Love the set up!

@trevor_osborn

Ай бұрын

I can’t notice any difference fletching left or right. Makes no sense as the footage you see it change direction but it doesn’t loose speed or shoot any different

Dan, thought process behind leaving the iron will impact collars off?

I ran Sonics, Altras, Rips, Axis, and the Bow Hunters. Landed on Sonics for 3d and the Rips for the other good stuff!

Dan , I watch all your vids, 2 questions You mentioned a collar for the 6mm sonics. What was that? And 2nd. I am in need of a new target. Looking at the 365. Does it hold up ?

I have a random question. Does anyone know if you're supposed to press a switchback xt on the end of the limbs or go down a bit to avoid the two little allen screws? They're for those string stoppers that were on older Mathews. Thanks

In shooting the Easton axis 4mm. 307fps with 486 grain arrow.

How is the arrow saw working out?

How has the Starbond been working for you? Been trying to decide on an adhesive for installing inserts and I’m not sure what would be best between hot melt or this glue

Hey Dan since you have new arrows doesn’t that mean the 20,30, and 40 yard pins on your dark scope not match up anymore? Does that mean you have to buy a new scope or does he make cartridges to replace your old vertical 3 pin

Easton Sonic are hard to beat. Perfect TAC arrow with the stock insert, solid gpi to tinker with foc. Only criticism would be 6mm but the components you can buy from Easton are all you really need. KISS. 50 or 75 grains of brass for that 14-17% foc territory all day long

@ElkShape

Ай бұрын

Word!

What happened to the Modsaw? Loving mine.

What glue are you using for the inserts ?

Could you make a video explaining how to get an archery elk tag for non residents

What length did you cut them at?

I am new to archery and still learning. Why did you go with a 6mm arrow instead of a 4 or 5? Great video and thank you for all the helpful content

@Muskiehunter92

11 күн бұрын

They take standard inserts and many people like that fact.. The entire shank and thread of the field point/ broadhead sits inside the insert and everything is flush with the end of the carbon... on the 5 mm shaft you have to use a HIT insert or half out/ outsert ... same for 4 mm. There is no right or wrong. There are plenty of great components out there for each size. I like 5mm myself... they just seem to be the perfect size for hunting. RipTKO 300s with a 50gn brass HIT insert and a collar... or you can just screw in a 17/64ths field point and it is absolutely seamless between point and carbon. The easton sonics are super nice though. They are close in O.D to many of the heavy GPI 5mm arrows, and the standard inserts are just easy and strong. They are also nice because you can use hot melt without issue, although I do still use hot melt on my HIT inserts too. I like the option of being able to change components or re-task an arrow down the road. Since you are new to archery I will leave you with this tid bit of information. The internet is FULL of horrible information of people telling you there is only one way to do things. They are wrong. Archery is not THAT complicated, people just like to make it complicated. Follow the basics and ignore the bickering. If something is working for you, that's all that matters. If you are shooting the best groups you ever have, but your paper tune is horrible, leave it. People put too much emphasis on paper tuning, and even bareshaft tuning. Broadhead tuning is important for hunting of course, but besides that, your groups are what matters. The tuning methods everyone talks about are great places to start with getting good arrow flight, but are not the be all, end all. My 50m target bow is shooting 3-4 inch groups at 55 yards consistently, and it has a sub optimal paper tear... You will learn your own ways in time, just stick with it. Learn to work on your own stuff if you can. It is the only way to learn and have your equipment perform at its best. Shops are fine and we all start out using them... but once you are comfortable and know the basics, do not be afraid to invest in tools and venture out on your own. Good luck !!

My new Mathews lift with match strings clocked to the right I hope you have better luck with them than I did I used rip tko and decided to try the sonic out they are not as durable I’ve broken several so I went back to rip tko

@eddieolachia5305

22 күн бұрын

how could you tell which way its clocked. is that what makes you decide which helicle angle you get

Are you going to try to compare wind drift in the larger diamater? I know you usually shoot 4 or 5 mm, wondering if you'll see a difference! #ABT

They’re my TAC arrows. May use them for antelope and whitetails in the fall. 444 grains coming out at 316fps

What glue are you using

Any chance you can do a comparison of the Sonic vs. RIP TKO? In a 300 spine, they both are 8.8 GPI.

ABT!

whats your draw length?

Except for making more arrow content these arrows will work 100% on an elk or two. That FOC will guarantee awesome flight performance. 👍👍👀

Are those blazer vanes? I tested so many vanes and blazers actually came out on top. Tried and true.

@ElkShape

Ай бұрын

AAE Hybrid HP's - similar with different material. 👍

@todd_2692

Ай бұрын

@@ElkShape aahh I didn’t test those or watch the entire video where I’m sure you specified. Thanks and good luck!

Adding onto the fact that left bevels don’t unscrew from the insert. A left helical/bevel is rotating counter-clockwise from the perspective of the archer. Down range, if that arrow is flying at you, it is spinning clockwise - the same direction you would tighten a broadhead onto an arrow. So a left bevel does in fact tighten if the arrow was to stop spinning. The opposite is true theoretically of a right bevel but I don’t think it’s a real world problem because the arrow is also spinning in the same direction as the broadhead. Anyway..

@the_sharp_carpenter

Ай бұрын

Yes 👍 this is exactly true. If you had a right bevel on a left spinning arrow it might loosen a tiny bit, but a little bees wax on your threads and nothing is coming loose till you want it to.

@dario_d9005

Ай бұрын

@@the_sharp_carpenter yup exactly. There’s a lot of misinformation about this out there. A popular broadhead mfg even put out a video explaining they don’t make left bevel broadheads because they will unscrew and they don’t want to put a product out there like that…I am sure it has everything to do with manufacturing limitations and then they reverse engineered a reason they don’t make them..

Curious as to what field points you’re using for the 150 grain. Thanks Dan

@ElkShape

Ай бұрын

I purchased them off Amazon - they're not the best to be honest!

@rickjames2618

8 күн бұрын

I switched to ethics field points as I couldn’t find a decent yet cheap 150

What happened to the mod saw?

Switching to the 6mm huh?? I haven’t tried these arrows but I have tried the nock on sonic KE. They are great arrows.

I just can’t do 6mm after shooting 4mm arrows the penetration is just way different. When I shoot 6mm side by side with my 4mm on a foam target just look at the difference in penetration.

@blackstream8351

Ай бұрын

On an animal it doesn't really matter as the broadhead makes a big hole and blood serves as a lubricant. Zero friction basically with the arrow shaft no matter how thick it is.

Hey Brother. Never thought I'd see you shooting a 6mm ever again. Seeing you drop down to 4mm and now go back the other direction has me thinking, why. I understand switching setups for different types of animals. I would think that once you decided to drop down, for elk specifically, you would stay there. Since you've already shot almost every arrow made.

@ElkShape

Ай бұрын

WHY - to test for myself. The GPI of the Sonics is really the main feature, it's the lightest GPI that Easton has to offer for hunting as far as I can tell! Thanks!

@papaschuette

Ай бұрын

@ElkShape Oh, it's not a bad thing. They are very different setups. These have alot more FOC. I just figured that you were close to the perfect setup for last season.

What saw is that?

It was hard to tell on the scale. How heavy are they?

@ElkShape

Ай бұрын

With the 75 Brass 450 and without 425

That kid is going to be a bow hunter no doubt!

whats the app you used to calculate the foc?

@ElkShape

Ай бұрын

Archery Pal

Wow, 200 grains up front on a 340 spine and 80#’s? Even with a short arrow and short DL that seems pretty week. Interesting. I’m using these, 300 spine though. 175 up front and 451g total. They’ve been nice. Stronger than I expected.

Hey bro I wanna make the drive to Spokane archery and have Josh build me a left handed lift maybe we can do a shoot

The 6mm kinda came out of nowhere, why?

Not an IW or smaller than normal arrow diameter guy, but like the looks of those. I’ve always shot GT Hunters and Hunter XT with Thunderhead 100s. Good luck with them and happy hunting!

No exodus?

No more hot melt?

@mariomosele3214

Ай бұрын

I would like to know what glue is this?

Easton Axis 5mm 300 spine- 10.7 gpi Victory RIP TKO 300 spine- 9 gpi Black Eagle Rampage 300 spine- 8.7 gpi

6mm?? Less penetration and more wind drift🤔 I went with the Easton SuperDrive 8.1gpi and 4mm. See you at BigSky🤙🏻

@ElkShape

Ай бұрын

See ya soon!

I watch nearly EVERY video from this channel and hold your knowledge and skills in high regard. Respectfully, this seems like a terrible setup. I also have a nearly identical LIFT 29.5 setup. 80Lbs./27.5 draw length. There isn't a spine chart on the planet that would come even close to recommending 300 spine LET ALONE 340 spine arrows for that much weight up front of your arrow at 80l. Draw, no matter how short you cut them. I have struggled with arrow speed as a short draw guy myself, but 6mm will hurt penetration and wind drift. I love Easton and hate that they don't make a light GPI arrow, but this setup causes spine, penetration and flight compromises. I love what you do on this channel. It's my favorite on the whole internet, but this is the wrong direction. Best of luck.

I will never understand why you would choose a Iron will to shoot out of a 80lbs bow, my guess is nobody asked you to place your hand on a table and asked you if you wanted to be stabbed in your hand with a two blade head or a four blade head? Everyone picks the two blade and when asked why they say it will cause less damage duhhhh! But hey! you do you and keep pushing an inferior product that is way overpriced and can be out performed by a 4 blade head. It’s sad to read how many people believe wholehearted in the products you select to use, but on a good note at least you don’t push 600gn arrows

@chrismohar4706

Ай бұрын

I’m no mathematician or anything like that. I do however understand if you have 2 main cutting blades and 2 cutting bleeder blades and you add them up, you know 2+2, it comes out to 4 blades!!! I’ve added it several times now… and still comes out to 4 blades!!! If you believe them to be inferior broad head then please! I’d like to have your opinion on a blade that is equally as tough, flys as well, handle large heavy animals with thick hide and comes actually sharp? Honestly I’d really like to hear opinion?

@MrHunter2784

Ай бұрын

@@chrismohar4706 for one I wouldn’t consider the bleeder blades as full blades there more like a sliver and don’t contribute much towards soft tissue damage which is the sole purpose for a broadhead, the only reason the bleeders were added was due to people complaining of poor blood trails and the end result was less penetration. (Due to thickness of material) Shoot the head through cardboard and you’ll see how much they contribute. Not too mention the edge of the blades will rust (most important) part of the head! And you can’t leave out the outrageous cost of one head. Remember the goal is to maximize soft tissue damage and a two blade head will loose too a three or four blade head every time! I don’t want to divulge my head of choice but I will tell you it is on John lusk archer top 5 performing heads for 22-23 list. I wish influencers like elk shape spoke more honestly about products and weren’t bought and paid for by signing non disclosure agreements and you can read how many people take his word as gospel it’s sad.

Very interesting on speed. I'm Shooting 450 grains, 28.5" draw, 80#, 80% letoff and im like 295 fps. Seems to be the same with a longer draw length compared to your setup.