Elektra Rehearsals - 1981- Karl Böhm - Wiener Philharmoniker

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  • @RG-ja34sep
    @RG-ja34sep Жыл бұрын

    This is taken in the year of his death. So sad to him looking frail and ill. He wasn’t a popular person with everyone (then again who is?), but he was certainly a maestro and an intense conductor, amazingly knowledgeable and enthusiastic.

  • @psijicassassin7166

    @psijicassassin7166

    Жыл бұрын

    He was popular with Nazis.

  • @leonardoiglesias2394

    @leonardoiglesias2394

    Ай бұрын

    And a nazi.

  • @DC-qd7uz
    @DC-qd7uz Жыл бұрын

    Bohm's Mozart and his R. Strauss are literally 2 sides of world, thanks you maestro!

  • @stefanufer608

    @stefanufer608

    6 ай бұрын

    I still think his Mozart opera recordings are the best ever

  • @WotanKlingsor
    @WotanKlingsor Жыл бұрын

    Varnay is a goddess

  • @avivbenjamin
    @avivbenjamin Жыл бұрын

    I just love him. One of the best conductor's, his Strauss is the best .

  • @gerwaldwalcher7939

    @gerwaldwalcher7939

    5 ай бұрын

    That happened a few months before his death

  • @leonardoiglesias2394

    @leonardoiglesias2394

    Ай бұрын

    You are not an orchestra musician

  • @Anthonyprinciotti

    @Anthonyprinciotti

    9 күн бұрын

    @@leonardoiglesias2394 While was certainly an incredibly knowledgable and experienced conductor, his actual conducting provided little guidance to the orchestra. He was one of those conductors who couldn't show the orchestra what he wanted with his arms and hands, yet reflexively yelled at the orchestra when his wishes weren't fulfilled.

  • @leonardoiglesias2394

    @leonardoiglesias2394

    9 күн бұрын

    @@Anthonyprinciotti nobody can „show“ you with hands „how“ to play. A conductor must rehearse and tell technically what he wants and insist until he gets it. BUT, BUT, he has to know HOW to do it, he MUST know the instruments and know how to conduct a GROUP. How to get the piano he wants, how to get the accents he wants, etc. you cant show everything with your hands. Sometimes you have 5 different voices…which one do you want to conduct…? You have to ORGANIZE that.

  • @1968KWT
    @1968KWT Жыл бұрын

    RIP Karl Böhm (born #otd in 1894) 🌹

  • @stefanufer608
    @stefanufer6083 жыл бұрын

    Absolutely fascinating - I’ve seen parts of this before but not the ending, and what an ending! A huge thank you for posting.

  • @silvr94
    @silvr94 Жыл бұрын

    "I can't beat any clearer" coming from Karl Böhm LOL

  • @leonardoiglesias2394

    @leonardoiglesias2394

    Ай бұрын

    You are not an orchestra musician. I am. I can tell just reading your comment

  • @silvr94

    @silvr94

    Ай бұрын

    @@leonardoiglesias2394 I am a rehearsal pianist and a conductor myself. I've played piano for literally hundreds of conductors. Well into my twenties I also played cello in an orchestra. I'm not saying that Böhm is a bad conductor, but there are definitely conductors who have a clearer baton technique. Böhm never formally learnt conducting. As far as I know he was a lawyer and after the war, opera houses were desperately looking for musicians. He started out as a rehearsal pianist and later started conducting (as was common practice back in the days). Everyone agrees that Böhm was a fabulous musician and a great conductor. All I'm saying is that there are far clearer ways to beat than what he's doing here (he was close to death here, so again, I dont't want to be pedantic).

  • @rogerbrett-freeman5411
    @rogerbrett-freeman54113 ай бұрын

    Alas Karl Bohm never appeared at Covent Garden in my days - he was extremely expensive and Solti would have resisted it. I was fortunate to have seen Miss Varnay as Herodias in Brussels. Her voice was shot but her acting was incredible - she very nearly stole the show from a fabulous Anja Silja.

  • @saikaiei88
    @saikaiei883 жыл бұрын

    Vielen Dank für das Hochladen!

  • @ernestoenriquecervantesalv1873
    @ernestoenriquecervantesalv18733 жыл бұрын

    El último proyecto de Karl Böhm, mi director favorito.

  • @leonardoiglesias2394

    @leonardoiglesias2394

    Ай бұрын

    No tocas en una orquesta. No puedes saber si era o no un buen director. Siempre lo escuchas con orquestas que suenan bien con CUALQUIER director.

  • @ernestoenriquecervantesalv1873

    @ernestoenriquecervantesalv1873

    Ай бұрын

    @@leonardoiglesias2394 No con cualquier director, por ejemplo no me gusta como suena la filarmónica de Viena con Lorin Maazel, sin embargo la sinfónica de Viena que no es una buena orquesta sonaba bien con Karl Böhm y Karajan mismo.

  • @ernestoenriquecervantesalv1873

    @ernestoenriquecervantesalv1873

    Ай бұрын

    Y ¿Solo por eso no puede ser mi conductor favorito?

  • @Felipe.Taboada.
    @Felipe.Taboada.3 жыл бұрын

    impresionante la Varnay cantando 40 años después de su debut como Sieglinde en 1941. También es notable su Kostelnicka de Janacek en 1972 creo.

  • @SilfredoSerrano

    @SilfredoSerrano

    Жыл бұрын

    1970.

  • @draganvidic2039

    @draganvidic2039

    5 ай бұрын

    Rysanek sang both Sieglinde and Chrysothemis for more than 35 years sounding the same… Nobody has ever done that.

  • @mooriable
    @mooriable3 жыл бұрын

    Is this perhaps THE Sofiensaal that was unfortunately destroyed by fire 20 years later?

  • @andreaguarino8207
    @andreaguarino82073 жыл бұрын

    They play like demons, oh my God!

  • @shawnhampton8503
    @shawnhampton85032 жыл бұрын

    Somebody got a wobble from hell. Two notes for the price of one.

  • @randysills4418

    @randysills4418

    Жыл бұрын

    It's big enough to drive a mack truck through! Terrible!!!

  • @draganvidic2039

    @draganvidic2039

    5 ай бұрын

    It’s Varnay. Old here.

  • @sivakumarvakkalanka4938
    @sivakumarvakkalanka49383 жыл бұрын

    At the beginning of the video, isnt that Zubin Mehta at the extreme right, following with a score?

  • @mooriable

    @mooriable

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes, indeed. Both Böhm and Mehta had been frequent guest conductors(the latter still is) of the Philharmonic, and Mehta is following the score with then first concertmaster Gerhart Hetzel, who died so tragically only 11 years after this although he was a few years younger than Mehta.

  • @andreaguarino8207

    @andreaguarino8207

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@mooriable He got injured in the mountains

  • @mooriable

    @mooriable

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@andreaguarino8207 Right. The concertmaster suffered a fatal injury from a fall there in July of 1992 at age 52 during the Salzburg Festival season.

  • @ArgerichStan
    @ArgerichStan7 ай бұрын

    It is very frustrating seeing Böhm fail so badly at clear conducting here due to his health and age and then blaming the orchestra on not being able read his “cues”

  • @wotan10950
    @wotan109503 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for posting. I’m sorry to say this is my least favorite recording. Bohm was too old and sick to lead the orchestra, and they sound dead in the final dance and elsewhere. Ligenza is shrill, Rysanek can’t find the pitch even when she’s in the correct octave, Varnay’s voice is one big wobble. And I like these artists, but not here. If anyone wants my DVD, let me know.

  • @bayreuthvinylman2616

    @bayreuthvinylman2616

    3 жыл бұрын

    Totalmente de acuerdo, prefiero Sinopoli, Böhm esta muy mayor aca.

  • @wotan10950

    @wotan10950

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@bayreuthvinylman2616 Sinopoli’s recording is fantastic! Agreed!

  • @wotan10950

    @wotan10950

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@isaacteesdale5934 wotan10950@yahoo.com

  • @wotan10950

    @wotan10950

    3 жыл бұрын

    I’d be happy to send the DVD free of charge, if you will pay the postage.

  • @Haronardi

    @Haronardi

    Жыл бұрын

    @@bayreuthvinylman2616 ¿Y la versiòn de Inge Borkh, Marianne Schech y Jean Madeira?

  • @yefimpastukh3505
    @yefimpastukh35053 жыл бұрын

    On of the greatest 20th Century operas - the music is beautifully played. Just Bohm is too weak for this(old),and the singers are not great either.

  • @BellaFirenze
    @BellaFirenze3 ай бұрын

    Although Böhm never joined the Nazi party, in public and in private he continually expressed strong support for Hitler and his regime. Böhm's support of the Nazis predated their rise to power. Böhm was a beneficiary of the Third Reich and used its system to advance his career. His ascent was facilitated by the expulsion of Jewish and politically out-of-favor colleagues. Böhm was an outright Nazi who in 1938 told the Vienna Philharmonc that anyone who did not vote for Hitler’s Anschluss could not be considered a proper German.

  • @lublondon

    @lublondon

    2 ай бұрын

    Dafür ist Karajan gleich zwei Mal der NSDAP beigetreten…. Trotz ihren politischen Irrungen oder Opportunismus sind sowohl Böhm als auch Karajan großartige Künstler. Dirigenten des Jahrhunderts Wagner hat es ja vorgemacht… wie man ein Genie und menschlicher Kotzbrocken zur selben Zeit sein kann

  • @lapernice6978

    @lapernice6978

    2 ай бұрын

    So very similiar to Karajan who on the other hand joined the nazi party twice just to make sure…

  • @southfloridaarcheryguy114

    @southfloridaarcheryguy114

    2 ай бұрын

    I don’t care. That was a long time ago. And he was genius. I’m more concerned about our modern collegiate Nazis that have fouled the landscape recently. Now let’s jettison the politics and appreciate this rare gift of Bohm and his last rehearsals.

  • @BellaFirenze

    @BellaFirenze

    2 ай бұрын

    @@southfloridaarcheryguy114 Mein Gott in Himmel! Sind Sie in Amerika? Sind Sie ein weiterer verrückter MAGA-Republikaner? Dieselbe Rhetorik. Wer bist du? Wer hoffst du zu sein? Wen interessiert das? Sag deiner Mutter, dass sie eine Straßenläuferin ist. Get lost Karen.

  • @martinatherton3018

    @martinatherton3018

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@lapernice6978Not remotely similar. They were utterly different cases. But don't let your ignorance get in the way of what you imagine is a good post.

  • @leonardoiglesias2394
    @leonardoiglesias2394Ай бұрын

    Das Stück ist eine zu salzige Suppe.

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