One point just as an observation, I usually use a stanley knife to score through the plaster only not the board around the box to try and stop the plaster chipping back, then us my saw to cut out.

Another tip is to use a metal box to mark the outline of the box on the plasterboard. This means you can put a spirit level comfortably on top of the box and get it perfectly level. Even better, when doing this place the metal box in reverse against the wall and its even more stable.

Thank you for demonstrating and explaining it so clearly.

Excellent tutorial thank you. Ordering padsaw now...

Great video, especially about locating the struts

Very good clear video for DIY. it showed Me the type of inner box required for a plaster board wall.

Brilliant video just put two single sockets and all turned out fine many thanks 😊

This is very good experience for me

Brilliant teacher! Really enjoy the videos.

@GSHElectrical

3 жыл бұрын

Massive thanks 🦾. Gaz

Multi tool buddy...easy, neat and perfect cut everytime.

Excellent thanks👍

With steel studs, just whizz a magnet across the area. Done in seconds.

Fantastic video 💯👏🏽

Nice Video! One great tool to cut a nice hole into plasterboard faster is the "Fein Multimaster" or the the Bosch equivalent Multitool. Also to find struts without damaging the wall one could use a Wall-Scanner.

@GSHElectrical

6 жыл бұрын

Hi. Thanks for that. All my learners have to cut a socket box in a dry lined wall using a pad saw hence the video. I will check them out thanks for watching GSH Electrical

Great little tutorial .... Thanks

@GSHElectrical

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching 👍🏻

Thanks, always helpfull. Is there a continuation of this video? for e.g. how was wiring installed and further bits

Great video thanks. Just a quick question if the drywall is double 12mm plasterboard in some places so around 27mm thick including the skim. The side flaps cant get behind the plasterboard is there something else you could do or use?? Many thanks.

If you score the wall with the stanley first you wont get that scruffy finish around the box. Or put less pressure forward while pulling the blade towards you.

@GSHElectrical

6 жыл бұрын

+Kyle Thanks for the tips. At my college that type of knife is band but worth consideration in the real world. All the best GSH Electrical

@SuttonOnSea-in-00

4 жыл бұрын

@@GSHElectrical it was at mine as well, but I still had one in the tool kit.

Brilliant video mate. I would love someone on here show what to do when plasterboard at the side bursts or you have to move to the socket to the side. Because this would leave no board for the yellow clip to hold on to. How would a pro fix that? I ask because I've had to do this in my home a couple of times. I've just built.up no more nails and added a new square of plaster in. But I'm not sure that's right

@drcl7429

Жыл бұрын

Whatever works. Piece of thin rigid material (like another piece of plasterboard if you have any) on the backing overlapping a few inches in 3 directions and adhered to the original wall and whatever adhesive works on the butted area if you really want a bit extra and then plaster on the front. If you can't see a join and it holds the weight then its "right". These guys make the stuff so I would hope they know what they are doing. kzread.info/dash/bejne/aoxnwcFwgrDNfbQ.html

Would it be the same for a light switch on a stud wall as whoever lived in my house hasnt put the correct back box in and is coming away from the wall the screws wont tighten either.many thanks

@GSHElectrical

5 жыл бұрын

Hi. Yes you are totally correct thanks for commenting and watching GSH Electrical 👍

Hi Gary, thank you for sharing and clearly explained. If possible in the future could you do video of lifting floor boards ie tongue and groove, chip board etc, as I see some videos you do aren't all for your lvl1,2,3 students. would be greatly appreciated and its a good skill to know. Especially when its tongue and groove and nailed down with unlimited nails.... thank you :)

@GSHElectrical

6 жыл бұрын

Hi. Free time pending (mad at the moment at my college) I will try and assist you. Thanks for watching GSH Electrical

@josephhanley8461

6 жыл бұрын

Hi can I buy this box as the one I bought at b&q where rubbish and didn't lock into the wall

You have damaged a wall with holes without checking with metal detector first?

theres a strut imbetween the first and new socket how would you be able to get the cable to the new socket then?

@GSHElectrical

6 жыл бұрын

+diprobase1000 Hi. Yes you would... you would have to cut away the plaster board over strut and bring the cable out and over it before it goes back into the wall. This cut must be kept in line with the socket either horizontally or vertically so it's in prescribed wiring areas stated in the On-Site Guide. Hope this helps GSH Electrical

Studs can be 600mm centres, or in inches if in older places

@786path

4 жыл бұрын

It's inches in mine. Can I still put a switch socket in?

Some muppet installed a dry lining box with Fixings meant for a much thicker stud wall. Do people use adapters to bridge the gap and save ripping it out starting fresh? I was going to just shuv some dowel into the gap (it's about 50mm)

Do yourself a favour and invest in a multitool. Great for cutting out plasterboard and does a really neat job.

@GSHElectrical

5 жыл бұрын

Hi. All my learners have to cut a dry line box into a wall using a pad saw hence the video to help them. Thanks for commenting and watching Gaz

Can you do one video how you fish the cables in existing plasterbord please

@GSHElectrical

6 жыл бұрын

Hi. I can do a video on fishing cables but as my channel is educational I would have to mention the lack of supports (clips) that are required by BS7671 in cable runs. Thanks for all your positive comments Gaz

@RealGeorg3

Жыл бұрын

@@GSHElectrical Can you give any advice on how to clip, or conduit, cables in a partition wall when retro fitting drylining boxes like this? I can't see how you'd do it.

Is it ok to have a socket out fitted into pipe boxing in a kitchen, the pipe boxing contains a soil pipe from the bathroom above. If it’s ok or not what is the regulation for this

How did you get power to that socket then?

@GSHElectrical

5 жыл бұрын

Hi. I Spurred it from the one in the hall on the ring final circuit using 2.5mm2 twin and cpc cable. This cable was fished from the existing socket to the new one. Thanks for commenting and watching GSH Electrical 👍

@lastravenmph

5 жыл бұрын

GSH Electrical How did you get past the strut? Was there a gap between it and the plasterboard?

@sawdust4x4

4 жыл бұрын

@@lastravenmph I would have put it opposit!

Would any tests be required after install.in normal circumstances mate

@GSHElectrical

6 жыл бұрын

+Roy Kirkham Loads of tests Before starting the socket on the ring final circuit (the one in the hall) needs testing for ring continuity/polarity, then insulation resistance, next earth fault loop impedance and RCD tests. If all those results are correct then the extra socket can be added. On completion a minor works needs filling out and the tests stated above repeated... that's why I didn't show me adding the socket.

@ericthekingthekingtheking4842

6 жыл бұрын

GSH Electrical Wow alot of tests for a single spur to an existing circuit.i thought only the addition of a new circuit requires certificates.or minor works ?

@GSHElectrical

6 жыл бұрын

+Roy Kirkham Totally... what if the new socket had no earth or its impedance was to high that it wouldn't disconnect the overcurrent device (fuse) in time which could cause a massive risk of shock, fire and explosions... that's why we always test. Thanks for the great questions GSH Electrical

Im drilling hole in each corner to avoid the plaserbord chiping of the back after inserting the padsaw. And properly use the padsaw you moving only in one direction.

@GSHElectrical

5 жыл бұрын

Hi. Use a knife to mark around the outline to prevent damaging the plaster skimming sadly we cannot do that in the assessment my learners do hence the video Gaz 👍

If you hit a strut, why not just use a metal box and fix it to the strut. May have a bit of chiselling to do but easy if you have a multi tool. Agree with others to use a stanley type knife to score the board first prior to cutting it with a course saw,

Question: What if I want to install a metal faceplate?

@GSHElectrical

5 жыл бұрын

Hi. No problem they also fit these boxes .

@TheRealHiddenNinja

5 жыл бұрын

@@GSHElectrical Hi GSH Electrical, thank you for the speedy reply back! Won't I need to earth the metal faceplate to the back box, as the dry lining box doesn't have an earth terminal fitted? Also, you can buy a metal fire rated dry line box, is it worth the extra pounds? Thank you again!

@GSHElectrical

5 жыл бұрын

The earth from the socket circuit wiring will Earth the front plate (exposed conductive part) of the socket.👍

@TheRealHiddenNinja

5 жыл бұрын

@@GSHElectrical Thank you so much!!! :)

why don't you use a multitool to cutout the socket ? you messed up the edges bad

@GSHElectrical

5 жыл бұрын

Hi. I used a pad saw as that’s the way my learners have to do it during an assessment they do in my workshop. Thanks for the comment GSH Electrical

Stanley knife every time

To move an electrical outlet like this, does one need to be electrically qualified?

@GSHElectrical

6 жыл бұрын

No I was installing a spured socket from the ring final circuit a job in this case not required to be notified under part P of the building regulations. All the best GSH Electrical

@2wheelspy

6 жыл бұрын

GSH Electrical thanks. But regards to the wiring for it, do you need to be part P. I have a similar job, I’m installing a new back box and running the cables higher to the new box. Do I need to be part p for that. Many thanks. Good video.

@GSHElectrical

6 жыл бұрын

As long as your not installing a new circuit from the consumers unit (fuse board) or in a bathroom your fine. All the best Gaz

@2wheelspy

6 жыл бұрын

GSH Electrical thanks Gaz, but I thought a partial rewire was notifiable under part p? I take it partial rewrite means much more than moving a back Box?

@GSHElectrical

6 жыл бұрын

Correct

I am not expert or anything. If it's a metal stud, a magnet would not be useful to find it?

Dust sheet not mentioned in the regs. An electrician's finish.

Could've chewed it out neater

Look at all the experts in the comments, bragging about their special method of carrying out such a simple 2 second job. Settle down people!

Not good use a multi tool that’s butchered it

@GSHElectrical

Жыл бұрын

My learners had to use a pad saw for an assessment hence the video 👍🏻