As an American, its really a pleasure to see how the culture of off-roading is in the U.K. Its nice to cut through all the stigmas and stereotypes. Thanks for sharing

This is the best approach converting people to EV for the stubborn digging there heals in it secretly opens a few eyes.

The electric ones go with so much grace ; pure silence; amazing

I am not a an offroader but found this video scarily brilliant to watch

@spudproductions7606

Жыл бұрын

Thanks 👍😀

@jayesh5131

Жыл бұрын

Read my mind

Isuzu Trooper... astonishingly capable

@spudproductions7606

Жыл бұрын

Well said. 👍😀

The electric black 007 was amazing

I think Land Rover have definitely missed a trick in not talking to you Richard. They have spent billions developing the new Defender model, with only one PHEV variant that is a) too expensive and b) too posh for the people who really need them. The quality of engineering in your vehicles is world class, and you are recycling old Defenders and electric components to produce a very desirable and usable vehicle. I love the way that the regenerative braking turns the motor into a stepper motor giving infinite control. Great video Richard 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿😎

@ElectricClassicCars

Жыл бұрын

Thanks. I agree, they shouldn't have stopped making the old Defender. They just needed to modernise it with 21st century drivetrain. 👍

11:06 Such BEAUTY 💯🇬🇧❤ She's pure futuristic moon buggy.

This is awesome! Love the conversions you all do. Whether it be cars and /or people.

@spudproductions7606

Жыл бұрын

Thanks 👍😀

I'm just half way through the video and I paused to say that this one wins the internet for today... been driving a deisel twincab Isuzu 4x4 for sometime and that trooper put a smile on my face

@spudproductions7606

Жыл бұрын

Thanks, it was impressive on the rock drops. 👍😀

@ElectricClassicCars

Жыл бұрын

That Trooper impressed us all. 👍

Great content as always.Thanks for sharing and taking us along

"We are also converting people..." That is probably an even bigger achievement 😀 and even more important 😊

I must admit. I'm liking the spectre spec defender. A lot 👍

@spudproductions7606

Жыл бұрын

Looks cool 👍😀

@eubikedude

Жыл бұрын

Ditch the leather and I would agree. :)

I've never really wanted a Land Rover. Now I want an electric one!

@bluewanderer9903

Жыл бұрын

Lol, same here

@stephenwensley9328

Жыл бұрын

Shame I’m too tall for one, guess I could kick the passengers out and have the seat mounts shifted

@elenrad8023

Жыл бұрын

Me too.😄

@spudproductions7606

Жыл бұрын

Good choice sir 👍😀

@ryanclarke2161

Жыл бұрын

Ladies and ranges are complete garbage off road compared to Nissan patrols. But now with the possibility of electric drive it's time to utilise those aluminium vehicles with Nissan drivetrains for the best off road combination possible.

that small grey Land Rover is amazing. I love it.

Would be much better if one of them actually had a landrover engine. Entertaining and thanks for sharing

Thanks for the massive help getting up Bastard lane guys, the electric Landies were fantastic 👍🏻

@ElectricClassicCars

Жыл бұрын

No worries. Hope you guys had a good rest of the day. 😁👍

@spudproductions7606

Жыл бұрын

Welcome, hope you had a good day. The spinning rear wheels of the bikes does show how slippy and difficult that climb was. 👍😀

good to know that classic offroad can go-green but still with utility function

@sahhull

Жыл бұрын

The only time an EV is green is if you paint it that colour.

Beautiful colours,my all time favourite is Oliv Drab 💯🤠🇬🇧🤟

So smooth and "available on demand" torque delivery on those electrics!

1967 Chevy Truck 4x4. Fording a river in Idaho, When it started going sideways…. Butchie calmly states..” “It’s YOUR turn to turn the Hubs in !”

@briananthony4044

Жыл бұрын

Reminds me of the day a friend was using her 4x4, unsuccessfully, to tow another vehicle that had become stuck. I asked them, "have you locked the front hubs?" They looked at me dumbfounded so I checked, nope, unlocked. I had seen the rear wheels spinning but not the front. So I locked them by turning the hub knob, hopped in and towed the other vehicle out. Then educated them lol. I had never driven a 4x4 before, except your regular Subaru, where it is a permanent awd setup. But then I am a male, and the driver was female, so.........hehehe

@alanjackson4646

9 ай бұрын

Great demonstration of EV Off Road power take up. Cheers AJ

I wish I could afford one, but I love these!

Excellent. You guys are the hippies. The trendsetters, trail blazers in improving tweaking electric vehicles become formidable off-roaders.

@spudproductions7606

Жыл бұрын

Thanks 👍😀

Love watching

Two Mountains worth 😂 that should now be taken as an electric 4x4 standard unit of measure.. Richard you are a genius.

Boy, that looks like too much FUN!!

I thought these were RC Model cars. Lol I know should’ve known from the thumbnail. Still, love the Land Rovers!

Amazing work, i love this Lands Rovers greetings from Mexico.

Wow that’s just incredible

Jaguar Land Rover Directors must be chuffed with the free advertising this video has given them

I know it's only a easy dirt road but I'm wondering why non of you seem to air down, it would aid traction immensely and reduce all the bouncing around you do.

@ElectricClassicCars

Жыл бұрын

Yep. I totally forgot to air down. 😁👍

I love an ICE vs EV video. Awesome! 🔥vs⚡

I'm not a big fan of SUV's, but it was amazing to hear the sounds of nature when the EVs passed by compared to the ICE's. 👍

@bigglyguy8429

Жыл бұрын

It's even more amazing when you have an SUV and get ya ass out there. Try it while you still can, because there are people who want to ban it

@yanitsvetanov1162

Жыл бұрын

​@@bigglyguy8429 My uncle had an UAZ-469 and we went a few times in the forest in the mountain to work. It wasn't a very pleasant ride: noisy, bumpy, smelly... And nowadays these SUVs are everywhere, but not in the mountain where they belong, taking far too much space in the narrow city streets! I think they should be banned, unless they are EVs (with weight and size limitations) and restricted to certain areas, industries or government agencies!

@bigglyguy8429

Жыл бұрын

@@yanitsvetanov1162 I think that people that think other people's choices should be banned, should be banned. Everywhere.

@moabman6803

Жыл бұрын

I don't think they should be banned. You think they should be banned because they take up too much space? What kind of reason is that? Thats ridiculous.

This is a really informative video, would love it. Cool

This was an interesting challenge 🖤 really enjoyed this episode ❤ keep up the good work guys 👏

@spudproductions7606

Жыл бұрын

Thanks 👍😀😊

Brilliant, really smart what you have done

Easy and effortless; sums it up really

Nice one Moggy, loved it.

That works way better than the cyber truck lol. Ev’s need mods awesome glad I seen this one.

I think this video shows the Isusu is a beast .

Nice and Smooth @ 7:38, nice one Richard (y)

That looks really fun! I want one 😊👍

One more story… “Hey..lean out and see if the tires are cleaning” Ha ha ha ha in 4 wheel drive, all tires sling up a rooster tail of mud!

Fantastic the way you can hear the "nature noises" and get a sense of calm with the electric versus the revving etc. of the diesels.

Taking that pretty standard trooper along with those heavily mod'd defenders should get some respect too! In the 'lecy ones all you hear are the springs unseating/reseating and the transmission getting wound up lol! I'd love to see a specific low speed Off road mode where the traction motor is actually put into speed control mode and that speed is set with the accelerator pedal. In this case the high speed torque control capability of the inverter would really shine!

@ElectricClassicCars

Жыл бұрын

That's exactly what we have in the Defenders (2 modes) and why we were out that day. Setting up the off road mode in the Black Defender. That Trooper performed fantastic all day. We were very impressed with it's abilities. 👍

@spudproductions7606

Жыл бұрын

Trooper did good 👍👍👍

Nice drive in "Bastards Lane", 2 things for the ultimate off roader, diff lock and lower them tyres pressures to 20psi or less with them light 90s.

Ah yes, b'stard lane... thought I recognised it. Another great vid, thank's Richard and crew 👍🏻

@spudproductions7606

Жыл бұрын

Welcome 👍😀

@briananthony4044

Жыл бұрын

Lane, so it actually goes somewhere lol.

4 motor drive and 3D mapping suspension will be the future IMO

nice course!

It's great for heavy 🚦 traffic 👍

Factor in the need to drive, say, 150 miles to get to a meet-up and then drive 150 miles home again afterwards and things don't look quite as rosy for the electric vehicles.

@spudproductions7606

Жыл бұрын

Why not? We’ve done over 300 miles towing a trailer in the Green defender over a couple of hours. It has CCS rapid charging and can recharge in the time it takes to stop for a break at the services. Same as having to stop in ICE for a fill up, plus the benefit that when off-roading it uses very little ‘fuel’ 👍😀

@ElectricClassicCars

Жыл бұрын

Not true. I've done that, and more, many times.

You are doing what I have been thinking about. There are so many already existing great cars that could still drive and drive with electric engines without thinking about oil. Cool. You have new subscriber.

@spudproductions7606

Жыл бұрын

Welcome 👍😀

Great video mate

Beautiful bits of kit. The silence is golden, especially out in the country. Well done for letting us hear it (no sound track) :) I have a Zero electric Motorbike, listening to birds as you bimble through the lanes, is priceless.

@ElectricClassicCars

Жыл бұрын

Yep, couldn't agree more. Off roading in near silence is very relaxing. 😁👍

@spudproductions7606

Жыл бұрын

Have you watched our episode with the Zero motorbike? 👍😀

@spudproductions7606

Жыл бұрын

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Fantastic result. If only I had the cash… Maybe in a few years one is in the cards

Super impressive! Fun video 😄

@spudproductions7606

Жыл бұрын

Thanks 👍😀

Great video, watching the precise control of the EV’s was fantastic.

@spudproductions7606

Жыл бұрын

Thanks 👍😀

Contrary to what I thought, it looked more powerful when, especially the Spector, almost silently climbing than if I heard a diesel. As a hunter, it is also good not to scare away all game within a three mile radius...

The electric powered vehicles, will overcome the ICEs. Even with my i3 driving on loose terrain, when I go crawling with my 1/10 RCs in the forest, its so easy to modulate the throttle and I can imagine, if this i3 would have 4 WD and a bit more clearance, will crawl like a beast...

Your "E 90" is my absolute dream

Where are the old folk hitting you with sticks for having fun in THEIR countryside 🤪🤠🤟💯🇬🇧

This will be very interesting between

If God had intended man to off-road Mr Wint, he would have given him wheels.

Would be pretty rad to sort out a locker for that tesla drive. triple locked electric would be slick.

@ElectricClassicCars

Жыл бұрын

Easily done but so far I've not needed it so not done it. 👍

@brentonpiercy

Жыл бұрын

@@ElectricClassicCars who sells a Tesla locker? I’ve seen the lsd but not a full lock. I’ve got an 88 Mitsubishi montero that would be insane with a Tesla drivetrain

Super cool! I always wear a big smile when your videos are finished👍And now we know it's just a matter of sealing, I look forward to see how it performs as a submarine. But of course you need to find a periscope first 🤣

@ElectricClassicCars

Жыл бұрын

Or I just need to hold my breath, or maybe Santa will bring me some scuba gear. 😁👍

@spudproductions7606

Жыл бұрын

And be able to hold your breath. 👍😀😂

Add: no clutch wear, no gearbox to break, no coolant or oil to leak and you've got a very efficient and reliable off-road machine!

Gotta love the electric Landys, seemed to be very smooth in there operation and probably heaps more reliable as well.

@spudproductions7606

Жыл бұрын

You bet 👍😀

9:50 My man, you need limit straps. It's not just about keeping your spring in place but not over extending your shock either. Great video btw!

Very capable cars and nice route 👍

@ElectricClassicCars

Жыл бұрын

Thank you! 👍

A stealthy offroader!

A couple of cable ties later, Job done ✔️ 👍.

@spudproductions7606

Жыл бұрын

Essential kit in the camera bag 👍😀

For people who hunts, an electric is gold because they don't make noise or exhaust smell. Stalking animals would be much easier

One thing to note is that the electric ones have significantly way more power than the diesel so managing all that huge power for off-road is also a benefice.

It's funny but that reg plate says BOOT SPaCe to me!

I'd say a big sales point missed by Moggy at the end of the video, is I reckon the electric L/rovers as well as being so much more efforless to drive would be the ease and less strain on all the major componets with the electric powertrain. The extra abuse the engine, clutch, gearbox ,etc an ice powered Landie takes over rough terrain would be way lower with ECC's electric power train. Just wish they wern't so expensive to convert, richmans toy at the momen. There's a huge market for a no nonsense, no frills, 4x4 utility. Wish someone could make an affordable electric 4x4 pick up utilising. galvanised chassis, rust proof panels, sealed electrical components basic cab, one you can pressure wash inside out to clean....job done! Should last a life time.

@johnrowbotham2810

Жыл бұрын

p.s. to my above comment. My only hope is that the Tesla Cybertruck gets scaled down in size for UK/European roads, i'd buy that!

This is awesome! Bravo!

@ElectricClassicCars

Жыл бұрын

Thanks a lot!

Thank you

The difference between noise of the vehicles is so dramatic. First you have the noisy motorbikes, then the diesels with the diesel rumble then the electrics come past and all you hear is the slight electric whine from the motor but most of all you hear nature! Have you guys ever thought of setting up a shop in Australia 🇦🇺?

@spudproductions7606

Жыл бұрын

It is wonderful to hear the birds and trees etc as you rumble by. 👍😀

@briananthony4044

Жыл бұрын

I seem to remember they have a dealer in Australia that installs their kits.

I'm currently in the Diesel club. I have a Cummins powered Jeep CJ-7. But I'm subscribed to you channel to keep getting information on your classic electric conversions. This was a great episode, and pretty much exactly what I expected. I look forward to doing an electric conversion to a Jeep some day very soon.

@spudproductions7606

Жыл бұрын

Thanks 👍😀

Great fun! That electricity consumption came as a complete surprise. Think how practical an electric Landy would be for farmers. Electric tractors next, perhaps? Thanks for the video, Richard. 🙂👍

@spudproductions7606

Жыл бұрын

EVs would be ideal for farms/agriculture. 👍😀

@locknut5382

Жыл бұрын

@@spudproductions7606 Absolutely! I see that JCB have been making a few tentative steps with plant for the building and demolition industries too. Acorns and oak trees.

@definitlynotbenlente7671

9 ай бұрын

Add a solar panel tk the roof that constantly charges the battery

I hadn't at all thought about crawling style offroading using so little energy. We took a friend's Rivian R1T out and compared it to my F150 Raptor on a slower speed trail with a few rock gardens. The R1T did well (needed better suspension) but I was focused on how it performed rather than on how much energy it was using. These rigs you've built are amazing! Would love to have one as an around town/wheeling vehicle here in Tahoe!

@ElectricClassicCars

Жыл бұрын

We're going to to a Landy Vs Rivian off road challenge soon. 👍

@bigslacker666

Жыл бұрын

@@ElectricClassicCars Looking forward to it! We found the Rivian had good ground clearance with the suspension at full height but it was really stiff as you'd expect. Traction control did a decent job but it's not the same as a locked diff.

I absolutely love your electric Land Rover. When my current leasing expires I’m almost certain I’ll get a conversion kit. :)

@spudproductions7606

Жыл бұрын

Wise move 👍😀

thumbs up for the lekkie landy awesome vid yet again

@spudproductions7606

Жыл бұрын

Thanks 👍😀

The old engine really masks all the interesting noises now audible in electric. Great vid.

I want an electric Rover. Well done.

Me ha encantado la versión eléctrica del Spectra 😉 Como resuenan los bajos, en el descapotable también, se hace raro no oir el motor 😉 se siguen fabricando en versión eléctrica?

We make it easy 4 you!!!! Go Electric 💡🤓

The next thing would be 4 individual motors with smart control as to measure the movement and it could feel the environment as in the position. As the position of the car in general would be a thing the axle s could also be included in such a system as into the amount of weight is on there, the amount of contact and I know Land Rover has a sort system like that but it could be brung to several level higher I think. After all said it’s “offcoure’s” much more fun to having it being a challenge and a bigger reward after overcoming thats what been put under your wheels or just in front of you. That said I do wanna have a electric genuine landrover defender.

@petergoodall6258

9 ай бұрын

4 inboard motors and brakes - regen mostly

proper off roading, I used to do that in my kombi! hahaha.

@ElectricClassicCars

Жыл бұрын

🤣😂😆 doubtful. 😜👍

@bobeden5027

Жыл бұрын

@@ElectricClassicCars Oh Ye of little faith! hahaha.

@bobeden5027

Жыл бұрын

@@ElectricClassicCars with my suspension cranked up and my 1800 fuel injection, there weren't many places I could not get too. That rig took me 8 times around Australia over a period of 10 years.

You guys are sooooooooooo clever, excellent camerawork, genuine jealous! ps I'm the guy with a 'scope on the dash of my wasserboxer 2.1 so thanks for the look around the EV Wizard's Works of Wales the other day. Jamie.

@ElectricClassicCars

Жыл бұрын

Hi Jamie. Great to meet you the other day. We loved your VW T3. 😎👌

@StationGarageSt

Жыл бұрын

@@ElectricClassicCars By the way I passed my EV masters training over at Church Stratton. OVA guys really do in-depth stuff. I pointed them in your direction too.

@spudproductions7606

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the comment on camera work. 👍😀😀

Great comparison and a really interesting video. The off road mode is presumably needed to prevent drivetrain component damage due to the availability of instant, unrestrained 100% torque without it. Very clever indeed. Real shame you completely ignored the long-standing Voluntary Restraint though, which is to prevent excessive damage caused by driving the lane in an uphill direction. Sadly this vid may only encourage others to do the same, hastening the inevitable TRO and consequent ban.

@ElectricClassicCars

Жыл бұрын

The off road mode just makes it easier to drive in slow technical sections, as well as other advantages like hi regen for hill descents. Someone else has mentioned this voluntary restraint in the comments. I live local and wasn't aware of it. No signs on the lane either to explain it. Where did you hear of this and who has put that in place as nobody seems to know about it. Lots of people were doing it uphill when we were there.

@DAVIDWilliams-gr9lx

Жыл бұрын

From Wikiloc: Horseshoe lane (aka b/stard lane) the (Snowdonia national) park ask that you drive this in a one way s to n direction until it swaps to a w to e where it drops down to the waterfall, to minimise any futher damage as trying to drive up the waterfall is leading to oil and fluids getting into the holiday villages water supply. For any futher info you can contact the parks head access officer Peter Rutherford on O79OO2674538 or office on O176677O274 GLASS also have it marked as VR downhill only on Trailwise2. I live locally too and have done it in both directions (pre VR) and going uphill is more challenging. Presumably many users, even if aware of the VR, ignore it for this reason. There was physical signage at one time, but it routinely "disappeared".... HTH and thanks for your further comment re. Offroad mode.

OMG...just the sound difference on first track...I'll take electric any day to be in the woods without engine noises!!!

Love it

She needs a set of Mach 5 rims Moggie!

Nossa é o máximo esses elétricos.

The Silence of the EVs going thru was great

@emmanueldsouza1635

Жыл бұрын

No it was worst.

@definitlynotbenlente7671

9 ай бұрын

With good electric vehickes it is almost silent quite amazing to drive true nature like that

Cleverly started off with 75% battery at the top so all that lovely heavy regen had somewhere to go. I'd have loved to know what the battery was at the bottom? Also what happens to all that energy if the battery was full and you needed that Regen to slow you down? That would have come out as heat right? Can the cooling systems cope with that?

For semi trucks going down a big hill in Canada it would be charging the batteries all the way down.

Cost of conversion of a crew cab to a "007 spec"? 🤔

@bgbthabun627

Жыл бұрын

yes I want to know as well!

@spudproductions7606

Жыл бұрын

Have you heard the saying “ if you have to ask the price ……………?” 👍😀

I'm not an off roader, however, I assume a lot of the love of it is the balancing the gas and clutch, keeping the revs up, not stalling it... So would guess it's probably quite difficult to shift the mindset in a good lump of people to not having to worry about that.

@liamadams8647

Жыл бұрын

@@alanmay7929 massively debatable

@clooperman3745

Жыл бұрын

@@alanmay7929 It's all down to personal preference, having driven offroad for nearly 50 years with auto and manual transmissions I would have said manual a few years ago but advancing age and worn out knees I find auto easier to use now but manuals are just as good, I've yet to find an auto that can crawl as slow as my Unimogs 4000/1 ratio!

@clooperman3745

Жыл бұрын

@@alanmay7929 My 406 is manual, with 20 forward ratios!!

@clooperman3745

Жыл бұрын

@@alanmay7929 My 406 does about 80yds per hour downhill, all on engine breaking without any electronic intervention, if hdc failed on an auto going down a steep hill there could be problems especially if the ground is slippery.