Tree Sentinel tells you that you don't need to fight every enemy you find. Algheel tells you that you can use your horse in a field boss, and Margit tells you this is an open world game.

@gonzu19

2 жыл бұрын

@SeraWasNever ROFL, this is so true, i just beat her after like 100 tries in ng+ i skipped her first playthrough, her fkin dance is Broken. I had to summon because 1v1 she killed me every time she did that broken move.

@gonzu19

2 жыл бұрын

@Pierce the HEAVENS! Ty for the tip, mimic tear +10 was enough, i am a strength build and we had her staggered the whole time.

@DRaGxMuLiShA

2 жыл бұрын

@SeraWasNever beat her in 2 minutes on my 3rd play through Bleed OP

@turdnuggz69

2 жыл бұрын

@SeraWasNever or just not break controllers

@turdnuggz69

2 жыл бұрын

@SeraWasNever no need to thank me

You can love or hate Margit but let's face it, he's one of the most memorable bosses in Elden Ring. We will always remember to put our foolish ambitions to rest from time to time.

@dominiklange8382

2 жыл бұрын

Fought Morgott yesterday, Margit was harder for me. Tho atm the other brother Mohg is a different level

@gattsu2604

2 жыл бұрын

Just started fighting him last night. Done about 10 or so attempts, gotten him low but not quite there

@tiga8600

2 жыл бұрын

@@dominiklange8382 morgott was surprisingly easy for me took like 4 trys I'm guessing casue Margit halted my ass for 30 attempts when I fought him but fuck his dam spear that he throws

@bellgrim6388

2 жыл бұрын

im malenia blade of miquella

@evann5

2 жыл бұрын

i love that i hate that hypocritical a-hole

He specifically delays his attacks to stop panic rolling. It’s aggravating at first but you get used to it.

@GriFFonRec4

2 жыл бұрын

It's actually so you can land attacks in between. If you attack him in between his delays it's EASIER to dodge the attacks since you are creating your own rhythm. Try dodging his opener, notice when he's doing the long attack, and then charge a full R2, you'll have JUST enough time to dodge out the way. It's when you're doing nothing that it's hard to stay on beat (if you feel you noticed it late then you don't charge the R2). Like the dude said, attack after his strings are "over" can be hard because he has optional extenders. The time you should attack are during his attacks.

@eneveasi

2 жыл бұрын

@@GriFFonRec4 yeah. What I’ve learned is there isn’t really ends to the attacks. You have to be able to attack and dodge within the boss combos

@Luis-fd2bi

2 жыл бұрын

While it is true, it’s sometimes just annoying not even as a panic roll. Just because you literally cant know when to roll unless you get used to some of his attacks. And it’s sometime not fun to play against. At least for me.

@dder04

2 жыл бұрын

i always considered him the gatekeeper who teaches you its ok to use summons and ashes while still allowing experienced players to play in a more difficult style without them. side note i used the skeleton duo as my summons the entire game they are sleeper OP because they just keep coming back and its not hard to get most bosses to chase you during their respawn so they dont die.

@budilamarius5053

2 жыл бұрын

The only reason i killed him was because of panic rolling. I saw lots of streamers during early release struggling with this guy and i wss expecting to hit a wall like i did with Midir on DS3 but i was wrong. This boss was underwhelming , i am not lying to, killed both bosses from stormveil castle on my first try. Level 18 samurai, +2 sword.

Why Margit is a phenomenal first boss: He makes you learn new habits for future fights, sets the theme for the game, gives you a lot of satisfaction when beating him for your first time, is memorable, and most importantly.... Shows you how bosses have smart programming and will do certain attacks to counter what you are doing (healing, using magic, ect.) A first boss is the most important boss in a game and Elden Ring did a great job with theirs.

@wildehilde5744

2 жыл бұрын

Justifiable Opinion, I totally agree but I also understand that players quit Elden Ring because of Margit, very unfortunately

@decryptedshade4476

2 жыл бұрын

I agree 100%. I did myself a disservice in my approach against Margit because I never had to gain those habits. I was a bit overleveled and abused both spirit summons and the npc summon. By that point his ai was split between too many enemies so I just stood back and thew spells at him. Flash forward later in the game and my sense for dodging was completely fucked and as soon as I stopped using summons I was getting dropped like nothing.

@mcslayer9796

2 жыл бұрын

It is unfortunate that I beat him on my first try as a new Souls player. I didn't over-level or use the npc summon but I still felt like I cheesed him. I used the Astronomer class and I started with the Imp ashes because it was the only one that I couldn't tell what it does from the description. Simply put, those things were so good at keeping his aggro that I was able to pebble him to death first try. Thankfully I learned alot from Godrick, probably the second hardest boss fight for me so far (I just beat Fire Giant, the hardest so far). Though probably cause I was underleveled and had not enough weapon upgrades. I literally had to run only mana pots so I would have enough fp to finish the job.

@bigmanbarry2299

2 жыл бұрын

@@mcslayer9796 wait you beat margit first try but struggled with fire giant?

@bradmace6144

2 жыл бұрын

He's not. He's fun but he's no good mechanically, you rarely get windows.

I beat him first try....at level 82 with +18 weapons, I love Elden Ring.

@imbadatfortnite8673

2 жыл бұрын

I just beat him lvl 16 with +1 😂

@ShinyAzzy

2 жыл бұрын

Mine is lvl 88 with lvl 12 weapons xD

@nxvh9062

2 жыл бұрын

I beat him first try too, at lvl 170 with maxed staff and moonveil on NG+!! To be fair, I also beat him at lvl 40ish with an Estoc on my first playthrough after 3 tries.

@miguelalbuquerque5667

2 жыл бұрын

What in God's man are u doing in limgrave at level 82, like that's hard even with farming

@RaPtOrScOpE1

2 жыл бұрын

I just beat most southern bosses and dungeons with a lvl 1 wretch no hit. Just need to get to the giants and im headed to the fire giant.

For how quickly you can get to Margit, some people think you're supposed to fight him right away but keep on forgetting that he guards the entrance to the literal last place you're supposed to go in Limgrave.

@TheKillaShow

2 жыл бұрын

Who’s fault is that tho? The first npc you speak with tells you to go to the castle. It’s an intentional set up by from software. The first 3 “bosses” you fight from the start of the game 1. Kills you with his 8 arms 2. Kills you with his horse 3. Kills you with his infinite stamina combos. It’s borderline trolling.

@ThahnG413

2 жыл бұрын

You can beat him at level 9 pretty easily if you have the goblin summons are a samurai and or bandit in a couple tries.

@gabrielcossa5488

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheKillaShow I can even hear Varres giggles when the tarnished sets out for the castle. He did it on purpose 100%

@miningfordiamonds7978

2 жыл бұрын

Caelid is the last place to go, god damn mobs are harder than margrit

@Monkeyman-qt1sm

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheKillaShow yours haha if everyone is telling you to go there that makes it obvious in my mind that’s the last thing I want to do😂

Elden Ring is my first Fromsoft game, and Margit was without a doubt one of the meanest, most brutal and harrowing experiences that I have experienced in a game. I love it.

@kcbetong3700

2 жыл бұрын

Lol, i beat him first try and this was my first fromsoft game aswell! I came prepared!

@barnachek

2 жыл бұрын

Lol. how did you know you were prepared if it was your first time? :|

@DeeMulaah

2 жыл бұрын

@@kcbetong3700 Could be wrong here but this sounds very troll worthy. Even veterans of fromsoft games got their asses handed to them by him.

@whyareyouhere6274

2 жыл бұрын

Took him down in my 4th/5th attempt, attempt before that his health was literally less than an inch and i died because i didn't charge in before he killed me

@Ultima_Weapon_Rasiel

2 жыл бұрын

@@DeeMulaah im not gona lie an say he didnt kill me atleast twice but i didnt even get to see his full moveset because he was like my 10th boss an i was probably overleveled by the time i found him yes i say found because i avoided the big castle for like 5-6 hrs of exploring i can imagine a new player souls player doing the same were hes not the first boss but the 10th..

I remember Margit being way more aggressive under 20% HP. One time he did a 12 attack combo with no breaks in-between. Just constant spinning.

@reicelestial2478

Жыл бұрын

That's a good trick

@noahthecrazy1632

18 күн бұрын

@@reicelestial2478a surprise to be sure but a welcome one

Margit punishes panic rolling, which got you though every other souls game and made you think you were good.

@divine0enigma

2 жыл бұрын

I leaned into shields as a crutch pretty quickly because the new counter is OP

@unlicensedyoutubecommenter6493

2 жыл бұрын

Taught me to panic shield instead

@i5m1thy

2 жыл бұрын

@@divine0enigma Shields in Elden Ring are legit really good. They don't counter everything but they do enough to make the game much easier.

@JonathonJDog

2 жыл бұрын

I found Mohg Lord of Blood to be an even bigger punisher of panic rolling. And just every other mistake you can possibly make. Every movement you make has to be calculated.

@theone1609

2 жыл бұрын

@VaderxG there alot of 100 physical reduction shield in ds1, you probably were using a shield that dont have 100 physical reduction or you guard an attack that deal diffrent type of damage

"looool it's not a hard boss. I leveled up to 50 and got the weapon speedrunners use, and the boss was easy" - average twitch chat user.

@loveableheathen7441

2 жыл бұрын

Most souls veterans won't find him that difficult. Mainly a problem for people new to the series

Margit is a hard boss because you first meet him under leveled and under prepared for the fight. You can run into him at level 11. I ran into him at level 15. He exists to tell the players you need to explore the map, level up, get a better weapon. He is there to punish players for not exploring the world properly, and teach players to explore.

@andrewwitham8493

Жыл бұрын

He's a skill check is what he is. 100%

@shoaibhaq8680

Жыл бұрын

​@@andrewwitham8493even for skill check you need to be relative in level to the boss you are fighting

@rungunninja1289

22 күн бұрын

Honestly him and the new twin moon boss from the dlc just proves the way to beat early souls boss is just get the upgrade material if you’re not doing well despite understanding what you are supposed to do to handle most of their moves. Everyone wants to pretend that they are let me solo her but stats and gear are always the main way to win any rpg.

Margit is hands down one of my favorite bosses of all time. After I beat him the first time, I won't level past 20 until I defeat him anymore so it's more of a challenge. I love Margit.

@Thisguy2532

Жыл бұрын

Dude when I beat him I think I was level 40-45 and it still took me like two tries, that was after a week of being stuck on him lmao 🤣 and once I did it I got so hyped I started screaming like “yeah bitch I beat you!!!” My girlfriend was laughing the whole time 😂

After practicing Margit for a long time in NG+, a lot of his attacks depend on where you stand, the daggers for example, he will only use them if you are close in front of him. This can be used to bait some attacks so for example, if you know that after one move, if you are close, he can do another one that you can safely punish, you can bait that move by intentionally approaching him.

@apashehab5026

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah i’m on ng++ and honestly, staying in medium range is the best because it baits certain engages that are easy to dodge and leave a good opening. Too far away is not ideal and so is melee range.

@LuckykyunArt

2 жыл бұрын

Yea! The only way I defeated him was when I noticed that. I avoid those openings that I know he will conjure that sword and I'll just gonna let him jump because those are easy to counter.

@STOPSYPHER

2 жыл бұрын

i wouldn’t say he uses daggers based on distance. But his attacks are patterned. You can recognize what attack he uses before he throws daggers.

@Ammadkh24

2 жыл бұрын

Yup, where you land after dodging attacks is super important. Teaches you to keep watching him after every attack instead of just memorizing patterns

@joshdopp8780

2 жыл бұрын

He also raises his hand when hes gonna use his daggers it's quite interesting

I find the toughest part about fighting Margit is just how many combos he can string together with almost no windup aside from knowing the explicit few attacks that he CAN'T follow up on. Especially in his 2nd phase, he'll do a full 4 hit combo, you'll run up to get a hit on him, he will immediately launch into his dagger swipe attack, and chain another 3 hit combo without any warning.

@Kage-jk4pj

2 жыл бұрын

That is in the video

@vincentthendean7713

2 жыл бұрын

This is why I use parries. Can't use a 4 hit combo if you stopped on the first one.

@thebinksake8741

2 жыл бұрын

are you talking about the combo where the third attack is impossible to dodge? unless you dodge the first, get hit by the second and dodge the staff ( third hit) , because you can't dodge both the second and the third hit.

@SB-ou5yp

2 жыл бұрын

Not to mention he does chip damage too. He's insane but even as a newbie who disliked souls games before I kinda like it

@off-meta9962

2 жыл бұрын

youp, pretty much thats it. It took an while for me to figure out, but i started only punishing his Hammer attacks 2nd Phase since they leave him vulnerable for quite long.

Margit’s purpose is to teach players that they should go out and explore the open world instead of rushing through the main bosses. I beat a lot of the optional bosses in Limgrave so I could level up a bit before fighting Margit and I was able to beat him first try with no summons or magic even though Elden Ring is my first souls game

@YR-jg1gk

2 жыл бұрын

Finally not a braindead player. As a souls veteran me and my friends took 8 times to defeat him. We didn’t explore or level up like u did. But your approach was a lot more smarter

@nathanmorel7089

2 жыл бұрын

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@Marky-Mark1337

2 жыл бұрын

First fight I was definitely underprepared. When I explore, doubled my level, 23 to 46, and I think I overprepared.

@kantalot3797

2 жыл бұрын

I'm a completionist so I did literally everything else first, anything I saw I beat right there and then even if it took me several hours 😅 needless to say, Margit was easily 1st tried after all that.

@anonymous_2223

Жыл бұрын

Bro I tried Margit just to see how he was. Knew I needed more health, plain and simple (also newer to souls games) I got to like level 58 and then remembered “oh shit I gotta go face margit!” 🤣🤣 I’m sitting here looking at this dude vigor and am saying “it almost like you didn’t think you’d die in 2 hits” lol Also beat godrick in a few tries and was easy af with the summon assistance. Rushed his ass with some claws and made that bitch bleed

I love Margit. When I encountered him as Morgott, I said to my screen: "Alright, one last dance my friend."

@ianphillips103

2 жыл бұрын

Morgott was such a badass fight

@justthings7438

2 жыл бұрын

morgott:ok..lets dance!

@teddiphobia

2 жыл бұрын

And then you put his foolish ambitions to rest

@andrewwagner7363

2 жыл бұрын

Morgott was easier then margit

@daedricdove6012

2 жыл бұрын

@@andrewwagner7363 After leveling, sure was

A lot of people seem to miss the part that Elden Ring is an open world game. Margit is basically a gatekeeper. Unless you explored enough and leveled, you shall not pass him.

@stupididiot9336

2 жыл бұрын

that concept and the way they implemented it is just so cool to me.

@franciscohidalgo6042

2 жыл бұрын

Margit aside, the much higher HP soft cap is also a huge indicator of the damage that will be coming at you later in the game. In DS 2 and 3 it was 27 IIRC. In ER it's 40, and even 40 is not where you should stop unless you're supremely confident in your ability to dodge or parry. It took me way too long to figure that out. I made it to Radahn with 16 VIG and then realized that 16 VIG is nothing. It's basically farting into a hurricane. And like you said, you're basically expected to clear Limgrave and Mistwood before going to Margit. On top of that, you should be putting something into VIG. Your 35 points in INT won't do anything if you die in 1 hit or stagger.

@khaoticmage2027

2 жыл бұрын

@@franciscohidalgo6042 Personally, I felt MUCH stronger when I respec'd and put my vigor up to 40 when I got to Leyndell the first time. Even with the significant loss of damage I was doing more damage by spending less time dying or healing.

@franciscohidalgo6042

2 жыл бұрын

@@khaoticmage2027 Exactly. When you go from dying or needing to chug 2 flasks after 1 hit to having some breathing room because you have more HP, the game feels significantly less punishing and more enjoyable. You may trade some damage, but if you have to run away to heal, you're taking more time overall to kill stuff. Usually.

@MrTeddy12397

2 жыл бұрын

you don't even need to pass him, you can just go around the castle lmao

It’s a wonderfully designed boss placed in the best place possible. Think that he’s meant to be that way to basically tell you to comeback after you explore limgrave and then you end up seeing how the exploration in this game is on a whole other level.

@AndresMurke

2 жыл бұрын

I did lot of South map and I killed him in the first try lul

@toyosenpai

2 жыл бұрын

Omen king marg is hard starter marg is easy

@michaelbread5906

2 жыл бұрын

I was a prophet and fireball sucks dick against this guy. Got the Crucible Tail, and murdered him easily. Pretty much the hardest boss I fought as prophet. Everyone else is easily kitable.

@AndrewB23

2 жыл бұрын

@Vandole you just sound bad lol

@fakerolnando

2 жыл бұрын

@Vandole I don't think he is worse compare to gundyr and vordt. He is here to teach you "go explore, get better or try hard", a skill check. YOU CAN ROLL THROUGH HIS ATTACK, there is a few think you need find out to prevent you get into that situation.

Margit is the living embodiment of "you gon' learn today!"

I'm new to a souls game and didn't know that Margit is considered 1 of the harder bosses. Yes, I died like 50 times to him but it's a little more reassuring that the other bosses will not be as painful as him :) I'm currently at castle morne.

@----47

2 жыл бұрын

Good luck...

Honestly I am not gonna lie, he is actually one of my favorite bosses. I fought him way to early and ended up paying for it by dying to him for like 5 hours straight. I eventually did a couple dungeons and got to a point where I was doing better damage but I wouldn’t say like the best damage. However because of the hours of training I had in dodging a lot of his attacks I was just barely able to beat him

on my first playthrough, i accidently explored Caelid all thanks to a teleporter chest but this accident turned out to be a good thing since i found the rotten stray summon ash, the greatsword, and some golden runes for leveling which made the Margit fight a little bit easier than what i originally expected

My first playthrough I was at around level 30 when I beat him with over 5 hours of attempts. On my second playthrough I beat him at level 22 with only 2 attempts. This really shows how much you improve on the game

Despite having my own sets of trouble with this game, I think the biggest “difficulty hurdle,” for people to get over in this game is practicing patience. Recent games and the landscape of online gaming as a whole has somewhat conditioned the average player into reaction time and aggression. But, while playing mostly shooter games that maintain distance and work completely differently..troubles arise. This game got super successful, being played by people who don’t usually play games like this. So, there’s a lot of learning to do. I thought this game was impossible and rage quit multiple times, until I really sat down with the leveling system and paid attention to what I was equipping and watching my enemy patterns. There’s challenges but I usually overcome bosses in one attempt, even if it takes a while. Patience, mfs, have patience.

@IzzySarru

2 жыл бұрын

I find this funny, because I've found this game punishes me when I try to play patiently (Not counting the panic. Lol) and rewards me for getting up close and personal. At least, depending on the boss. Some, like that weird assassin dude that starts the fight at like half health for some reason, you gotta draw them out and then back off a bit.

I beat him in like an hour, as a noob I'm like super proud of myself. That 2+ samurai sword gets shit done.

@habijjj

Жыл бұрын

Same the samurai class is pretty much the beat starting class.

@commanderedis20

Жыл бұрын

you were carried by the bleed buildup

Margit is hard because the game intends you to explore Limgrave first. Everything there is piss easy in comparison, as the zone is the true teacher. Margit is the test to what you've learned in Limgrave. Comparing him to first bosses in previous games is ludicrous, because they are not comparable. For all previous games, the first test bosses are early in a linear path. They assume you don't know much and don't have levels or good equipment. Most importantly, he teaches you to parry. He has a lot of attacks that are super punishable by parrying.

@samblob3688

2 жыл бұрын

One important thing to think about is that elden ring is open world compared to the previous games. A lot of people haven't necessarily taken that into account because they've played the previous games. I agree with your point!

@Selnathorn

2 жыл бұрын

@@samblob3688 It doesn't help that there are several thing that make you think that stormveil castle is teh way to progress. The guy at the first open world grace, the grace guidance, and the palm reader at the bridge leading past stormveil says "Oh you need this key to go to the academy, but the bridge is broken. But you can still go through stormveil" even though you can just go down the broken part of teh bridge to go past the castle and proceed to the lake without any issue

@Sevo-

2 жыл бұрын

@@Selnathorn i actually appreciate it that about this game, it doesn't hold your hand, you need figure this out, makes you actually think, rather than it be another mindless game. Might be just me, but it reminds me of how games used to be

@Zamoxino

2 жыл бұрын

how he teaches you how to parry when there is not even 1 pop out with parry directly b4 him? xd. u can slap 100,000 casual players into this game and none of them will try to parry this boss blindly cause that mechanic is so complicated for new players lmao. even my friend who played monster hunter for around 2k hours and being charge blade main gave up or trying to parry after few tries. even if he managed to land few on normal monsters. (CB is a weapon with very similar mechanic to parrying) he tried to kill the boss for like 1-2h normal way and then just used summons to cheese it. it would be better intro boss if it would teach you to just attack when they are doing long hold attacks and that healing near the bosses will instantly trigger their chase attacks. giving him all of this seems like too much

@CorwinTheOneAndOnly

2 жыл бұрын

He also teaches you to press R2 if you want to learn how to press R2. You'll pretty much never stagger him with R1s, but if you press R2, you'll stagger him like 5 or 6 times the whole fight.

when i finaly beat margit after i died a countless time, i had this strange feeling, like i dont want to continue to play this game, knowing the first boss i fought is this hard, fortunately i overcome that fear. damn you margit!

The hard part about margit too is that depending on your location in relation to him he chains up combos you thought was an opening.

I found that the best window to attack Margit is when either after he does the long delayed double spin attack, or when he does his normal jump attack. I was able to beat phase 1 a bit easier by attacking at only these two times, getting 1 to 2 hits in each time. Have yet to beat phase two and I'm only a lvl 26 Vagabond.

@billybadass7718

2 жыл бұрын

Jump R2, stagger. Boom!

@Kburn1985

Жыл бұрын

This is the way. The main lesson margit teaches you is punishable and non punishable attacks. Roll in for the former and roll out for the latter. Phase 2 is easier, because he panic attacks with his hammer smash and dual spins, letting you punish him more. Just bait and punish

Beat margit as a wretch while underleveled, took many hours but the feeling of acomplishment was huge. Whenever I get stuck on a hard boss in any video game, I always try to only dodge and learn all the attacks before I try to actually attack them. I think Minos Prime from ULTRAKILL is the best example I can give, you are forced to learn how to parry, and the timings are very precise

@Crazeee9000

2 жыл бұрын

I beat him underleveled a bit, but as a vagabond. Ill have to try this lol

@therealzizmon1748

2 жыл бұрын

@@Crazeee9000 once you get the hang of it it's pretty enjoyable, one tip I can give is that you can dodge a lot of his attacks by just running behind him

@Crazeee9000

2 жыл бұрын

@@therealzizmon1748 oh yea hes pretty easy if you just time and side dodge ive found, as well as parrying his cane attacks becomes second nature after ng+

@MarginalSC

2 жыл бұрын

Congrats Aris

Godrick was pretty similar too with his style. For the whirlwind attack, if you are close he does a jump attack and lands on you but if you are far he just shoots 2 wind shots that go really far. And his second phase with the fire was rough for me.

I felt like the crucible knight was the gate keeper for me. Even after I found out you could parry his moves, that took me days.

Margit is a boss to tell you, if you cant Beat me up now, just go outside level a little, upgrade weapon and Come back when You ready for proper duel

@xobismarckox

2 жыл бұрын

And then come back at lvl 40, everthing pumped into magic and obliterate him from afar. 😅

@jamesgratz4771

2 жыл бұрын

Level 25. Did plenty of damage he just has a ton of health. And his combos are relentless

Margit is a probably one of the best boss designs in the whole game (difficulty not included, just the boss style and it’s position in the game)

@Monkeyman-qt1sm

2 жыл бұрын

Haha I wish I got to experience this, I killed him in a few tries 😂

@Ebb0Productions

2 жыл бұрын

Margit and Godrik in my opinion.

@Monkeyman-qt1sm

2 жыл бұрын

@@Ebb0Productions idek the difference haha

@vigilr6595

2 жыл бұрын

Same goes for morgott

@imo098765

2 жыл бұрын

@@Monkeyman-qt1sm Godrick makes the ground go wobble wobble and has bad breath. Thats the difference. he was actually easier than Margit Like Lady Butterfly was a hell of speedbump in Sekiro

The main thing I noticed fighting him was that he is not a difficult boss it’s just that he has like 10-15 different attacks that make it impossible to memorize his attack patterns since every attack can change depending on where you are in the arena Edit after two years: man i sucked at the game when i wrote the above portion im now in my second play through to play the dlc and margit is honestly the easiest boss its not that you can’t learn patterns or etc he is a beautifully designed boss that is a great learning experience on how to deal with at least 95-99% of every boss in the game

The funny thing is that people seam to forget what the first encounter with the Asylum Demon is. Have you ever tried killing the Asylum with the broken sword and no Estus? I did and i died a lot more to him then to Margit before discovering the freaking door.

"the hold is like 70% of the difficulty for me" Words cannot describe how much I relate to that statement I think one of the biggest "problems" Elden Ring has, is that sites of grace point towards a boss, so naturally your instinct is to follow that path. But that's basically the game just telling you "hey come back here in a little bit"

@c0mplex_Ale

2 жыл бұрын

It's basically the game asking you if you wanna get to the end of it, if the answer is yes, then follow the arrow, if it's no, ignore it for the time being.

@liamd8918

2 жыл бұрын

@@c0mplex_Ale exactly, so I wouldn’t call it a “problem”. How is it a problem if the game tells you where your main objective is? All it does is help you think on what you wanna prioritize

@MaxiGoethling

2 жыл бұрын

My natural instinct was to go everywhere BUT that direction

@notan3144

2 жыл бұрын

The grace points are the game telling you where to go, the boss's damage dealt:damage received ratio is the indicator of whether or not you have to go explore to beat it. So I don't really agree with that last statement at all. I think the general pattern of the game is follow the grace and main paths until you hit a wall of a boss too strong for you, then you explore the surrounding area which offers upgrades, armaments and levels. In that sense the game is actually quite linear, if you go over kill and start exploring outwidth the region, you end up overlevelling. Limgrave for Margit, Weeping Penisula for Godrick etc.

@YouTubeExecsTouchChildren

2 жыл бұрын

It's not at all the game, it's the players playing an open world game and falling I to their waypoint mentality. They pretend the open world is a corridor and ignore any sense of exploration, and then complain about missing something.

I found your channel when I saw the greatsword video😂😂 love the content already bro!

@richardquinto477

2 жыл бұрын

Welcome to the community bro!

@xmpxblunt6378

2 жыл бұрын

@@richardquinto477 thank you!

@TheAwesomeness1123

2 жыл бұрын

Welcome, pleasure to have you

@xmpxblunt6378

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheAwesomeness1123 I appreciate it

Margit is such a cool and unique boss fight. I beat Margit by doing most of my damage in between his attack strings and recovering right on time to dodge. Took me awhile to beat him but it felt great beating him

I levelled my character up to 30 before challenging Margit for the 1st time, was too busy going everywhere else. I used the Jellyfish summon to distract him while I hit him. I beat him on the 4th or 5th go…just

There's also an item specifically used to stun Margit. They knew that he would be hard.

@MIKEHUNT7531

2 жыл бұрын

….what’s the item?

@Yarpell

2 жыл бұрын

@@MIKEHUNT7531 It's called margit's shackle, you can buy it from Patches for 5k runes

@dylangreen192

2 жыл бұрын

@@MIKEHUNT7531 Check for caves along the rivers in Limgrave, should find something helpful there.

@Nadaters

2 жыл бұрын

exploring all of limgrave and the weeping peninsula first and leveling vigor is what trivializes margit

@Sanquinity

2 жыл бұрын

@@AscendantStoic Yea, they never tell you to explore. In fact, they tell you the opposite in multiple ways (the grace guidance, npcs, etc) But if you do explore you get rewarded for it.

Stormveil isn't the first area in the game. It's the weeping peninsula. There you get flask +3. You get lots of upgrade materials 1 and 2. You get a castle dungeon area more suited to level 10-20. Limgrave is more of a level 1-10 area, and east Limgrave is 20-30. Stormveil is 30-40 area.

@warriorfire8103

2 жыл бұрын

I didn't see any indication to head to the peninsula so by the time I found it, I'd cleaned up limgrave, stormveil and the forest.

@olixx1213

2 жыл бұрын

Stormveil is a bit higher then 20

@Kyrious

2 жыл бұрын

@@warriorfire8103They didn’t do a good job on that. There is only one way into it. Has kind if an intimidating entrance. However the area is easy, gives you a lot of level shards 1. The game sooner has you arrive at Caelid than it does the penesula, with that trapped chest and portal in east limgrave.

@Kyrious

2 жыл бұрын

Stormveil is often tackled first at 25ish, to do all of Stormveil and its hidden areas, I’d suggest going there at level 30 or up.

Because he punishes panic rolls and from introduced input reading while giving him a ranged projectile that is faster than your potion animation

Fun fact, patches sells an item called Margot’s Shackle, which can be used to force a stun on Margot and allow you to get a ton of free hits. And it’s useable in both his boss fights.

@joaquinbitancor1269

2 жыл бұрын

I read 'unuseable in his two boss fights' for a moment and laughed my ass off thinking "thats the most patches thing ever"

I loved margit. I reached the fight pretty quickly. Tried a few times. Realized I could probably beat it in a couple hours if I kept trying, but then chose to go explore a few more hours, and came back and it felt like a fair fight

After I realized margit was the real deal, I found beating him really easy. my first 3 deaths were from under estimating him for being early game. Then I realized he is real and the deal. So I then put HIS foolish ambitions to rest slammed him in 2 more tries.

@Hanzo1

2 жыл бұрын

This is the way

@dankmemediki

2 жыл бұрын

I had heard how hard he was and came in expecting a tough battle. Literally two light attacks off on my 3rd go at level 14. Might just level a little bit more then commit to the challenge. That 5 swing combo can mess you up if you get your first dodge wrong

he was definitely a struggle, but I think the first boss of 3 was definitely rougher, especially since at that point all you'd have fought was a couple of week undead, feel like the skill jump and overall boss is more difficult

I've done a shitload of test builds in coordination with a friend of mine, so I've fought the guy so many times that at this point it isn't too hard. But then again, I've had a LOT of progress from first hour to seventeenth character (LOT of testing).

The answer: everyone rushes to fight him instead of spending time leveling and exploring the area. Doing this I beat him in a couple of tries

@Tailwind92

2 жыл бұрын

Also, if they actually explore, they can figure out that you have Margit's shackle or you can even technically skip the whole castle lol. But i guess theres lot of people that would rather finish the game than actually playing it.

@shrekkek9396

2 жыл бұрын

This is called overfarming.

Its a good thing that i farmed a Halo Scythe and was dealing pretty heavy damage to him at +5. I still got my ass handed by him several times, but its was A LOT easier having that damage.

Took me about 10 tries was level 16 using ash summons and there was an option to summon an additional summon before going through the mist .

ive been doing a lot of coop runs and one thing ive definitely noticed thats different from other souls games is its very very hard to abuse boss aggro, the Ai *wants* to focus the host really badly. the aggro tank/farcast mage combo isnt perfectly safe, malenia for example will swap targets mid combo and just leap across the arena at you

I'll tell you this, after I beat him, everything else has been relatively easy. I one-shot Radahn, and most other bosses one to two-shot depending on if I just got caught randomly by a string of attacks and died. Margit though... I died no joke probably 50 times, not kidding.

I really love how this is basically a rythym game with margit and many other bosses.

@dotanon

2 жыл бұрын

This is true, every enemy has a rhythm in a way. And it's all visually translated beautifully.

@mikeesteves8427

Жыл бұрын

the more beatiful thing is that theyre not just a rehearsed song being played out its more like an impromptu jazz session with you and the boss doing call and response. Only the boss has enough arms to play the entire band by himself and youre out there with a banjo xD

How to perform a traditional from software heavy attack. Raise your sword over your head. Raise it to your back. Raise up one foot. Put the foot down. Put your head down. Attack.

My first Fromsoft game, my first soulslike. A friend told me beforehand that Stormveil Castle and it's "bosses" were quite a big step up from Limgrave and Weeping Pen. So what did i do? Leveled up my character a shit tonne (mainly Vigor and Endur) by defeating every other smaller boss I could find, gitgud + killing the Stormhill giants every time I rode past (didn't even think of it as "farming" at the time, was only to gitgud fighting on Torrent.) +I also accidentally made Castle Morne's NPC Edgar aggro by fighting agroup of enemies next to him while he was at the end of his quest :'( so I killed him and got his sweet weapon lol. Took me 2-3 tries to defeat Margit, the jellyfish was my bestfriend. Godrick was the harder one for me, holy shit. I'm only up to Liurnia of the Lakes, am about 35 hours in, but in my 20 years of gaming this has to be one of the best gaming experiences I've ever had. The exploration and discovery is like nothing else I've seen in years, since Morrowind. Combat and difficulty is in another league. Can't wait to go back and experience the entire Soulsbourne collection.

nothing is harder than the second genichiro boss fight in sekiro. that was a HUGE difficulty spike. but if you win you most likely improved on the game so much you then body pretty much everyone after him.

@SenoirMeow

2 жыл бұрын

Second fight against Owl was stupidly difficult. However trying so many times against him gave me the skill to beat sword saint Isshin relatively easily. 😂

@screwhalunderhill885

2 жыл бұрын

Sekiro is just way harder than elden ring imo

@BoknoyBuhisan

2 жыл бұрын

@@screwhalunderhill885 sekiro is objectively harder. elden ring has a lot of tools to help you beat the boss. summons, leveling a shit ton, weapon upgrades, armor, etc2.

@TyroPirate

2 жыл бұрын

@@SenoirMeow They just gave him an extreme amount of health. When I did it it was a 7 minute fight that required constantly keeping up agro. Tooooo long. Too much health and posture on him

@Leonhart_93

2 жыл бұрын

Sekiro is harder, because there is really no good way to overlevel in Sekiro, or use some other OP gear found in a secret corner of the open world. Everything have are at your disposal are tuned to be just "adequate" tools to do the job. The most meaningful stat you can increase to help you in fights is your own skill.

Hearing that a lot of people had a hard time with Margit makes me feel a lot better after how long it took me to beat him.

The knight w the shield and spear at the gatefront ruins gave me wayyyy MORE trouble than Margit did 😂

One attack I was never able to burn into my head, was that random quick cane uppercut he would do

2:50 that is soooo true. when i first started i died 50 time because i was trying to run away to put distance... now im dogpiling all the bosses because i do the opposite i stay under them and keep hammering. The bigger they the more they miss when im up close, give me more room to do DMG.

I hope Asmongold can react to Ratatosk's videos. I never have watch him before, but he has interesting guides cool material. I hope his channel can grown as much as other FromSoftware content creators like Vaati and Iron Pineapple.

that dagger...THAT FUCKING DAGGER

I loved this fight and the rematch later with morgott is one of my favorite fights in the game. It pissed me off for sure but I appreciate the lesson.

I was so nervous about the fight I ended up way overleveling and one shot it. I kinda felt disappointed. Seemed like a hard boss for sure. I look forward to a fresh playthrough.

@Roxxigaro

2 жыл бұрын

My impression is that he is balanced around being fought at around lvl 20 with a +2-3 regular weapon or +1 somber weapon. The fight is still tough but much more manageable. I probably put like 6 hours into making new characters beating him with different set ups just to try out different playstyles. Half of that is when i first started playing and fought him till i beat him with a +0 longsword.

i like how asmon says margit is the hardest boss and hasn’t even gotten to malenia yet (or maliketh, godskin duo and godfrey). Also how he always says that bosses are easy despite how much he struggled on them

For "bridge style" fights i try to use an X pattern rolling under when i dodge at a slight angle

i love how asmon uploads this with a "rolling eyes face" when he was struggling with margit himself.

only early strength builds had this problem

@juicebox9859

2 жыл бұрын

im fighting for my fucking life out here using a colossal hammer 😭

@Teh_Duck

2 жыл бұрын

For me it was rough with an Uchi aswell

@sims341

2 жыл бұрын

@@Teh_Duck just spam heavy unsheathe what? 3 of them staggers him and it's all easy game from there..

I've never gotten the sense that hes "really good" at killing you. Margit is one of my favorite bosses both pre and post patch. His fights are fun as hell and honestly if he spanks you well...maybe trying be strategic? I mean most of his moves are telegraphed well ahead (fuck those light daggers they are insanely fast.) Margit is the best boss tutorial I've seen in a long time.

counting margits attacks musically is like counting meshuggah all at once

it's that spirit knife that he double swipes when u get too close

Margit is such a fun boss, and when you fight him at leyndell its even more fun, i highly suggest learning to parry bosses its such a power move on them

I always laugh when people come into the comments to say a boss wasn’t hard. Like congrats, but no one cares or is impressed with how good you are.

@stayslapped1568

2 жыл бұрын

@@MyouKyuubi please tell me this is a pasta and you didn't actually just type this all out

@MIKEHUNT7531

2 жыл бұрын

@@MyouKyuubi you’re average at the game aren’t you?

@datzfatz2368

2 жыл бұрын

@@MyouKyuubi you make good points but you dont have to be that harsh to the poor guy lul^^ then again he was kind of asking for it i guess. Also: 1. Yeah true. 2. You could just play offline if you dont like the online compnents anyways (thats what i always do because i feel like the part of the games (especially PVP) is just a mistake from the getgo that the devs refuse to let go of). But just as general info, the hacker invasions where a pretty unique Dark Souls 3 Problem and as far as i have heard Elden Ring is much safer in that regard, at least so far. But a pretty valid reason not to play it i guess. Even tho if you like the Soulsgames and are average at them like me i think you would really enjoy this one too. Has its lows but the highs are very high^^

Yeah delayed attacks require you to learn the timing which can be both very nice or annoying.

Summon, Jellyfish, Decent Sword, Stags and Luring, goimg for the win.

I also hate the long windup attacks. The magma wyrm that stands up and holds the sword above its head for ages always gets me. But when i got the hang of it, I could kill it.

I’m gonna have to do a no spirits run. I’m pretty chill on this first play through but I can tell some fights I wouldn’t have completed in so few tries without spirits.

I think he’s a great boss one of my favorite in souls, he really was a challenge and he managed to completely flip everything that everyone had learn from former bosses upside down. I recently started my second play through and I’m embarrassed to say that he took me around a hour to beat even though I knew his move set. He’s a great boss and he really set the tone for what eldin ring is for the rest of the game.

I fought Margit at lvl 15 and he stomped me. I adventured some, learned some spells at the rountable, and went back at lvl 20. Still took some deaths to learn his openings, but my +3 Uchigatana, Wolf Summon, and fire sling did the trick.

I guess I maged to luck out on avoiding the pain of fighting Margit since I discovered the summon ashes before fighting him. Imeadiatly made things easier with a lot of his agro being redirected

the feeling i got from beating margrit was so good and euphoric, i was kinda cheesing with Quickstep Ashe of war and dagger bleed .(severly underleveled)

I agree with the holds. Its easier to react to an immediate motion, followed by an immeditlate attack.

Fighting Margitt for first time was so stressful but as soon as you actually beat him you will never struggle against him again no matter what weapon or ng+ you have, he just feels so easy once you become patient

you only need a baiting approach. avoid the opening attacks that you don't like, counter the ones that are easy to counter.

rolling into him IS KEY

3:08 agreed. Look at how much of a wall the Smelter demon was for that exact reason

I learned pretty early on (as a DS veteran) that he had delayed hits and I had to react to the swing instead of the windup. Which almost turns the fight into something easy.

Margott was there to force DS players to change their way and start focusing on the Posture mechanic.Jumping attacks , R2s and sometimes GCs until the invisible posture bar fills up. Basically a mix of DS and Sekiro.

Majority of instinct says roll backwards or jus to the sides. Best option 90% of the time is to roll into attack towards boss.

I literally just dodge rolled into him every time and bonked him with the greatsword (like +5), tried to get behind him as much as possible and was suprised that I oneshot him after my friends struggled a bit lol

Elden ring is my first ever souls game. I did the rat boss in the wolf cave, then pretty much beelined to margit. And yeah i had some issues and my friends gave me some advice (getting the jelly summon to work). But I did it in about 10 attempts, improving each time. But now I’m a little underleveled in the stormveil castle so I’m exploring other areas of the map for upgrades. Did the human lion thing on the weeping peninsula, that was a bit tougher for me. Now I’ve found 2 evergaols that I’ve been working on.

A thing that I just keep in mind whenever playing Elton ring is the wind-ups from any attack are a little slower and the actual attacks in comparison to Dark Souls 3 but they have more precision so Panic rolling is less viable and in some situations impossible so I've developed the habit of rolling as soon as I see the actual weapon or attack coming at my character

I didn’t go straight to Margit. I knew the golden lines or the “guidances of grace” were there but I didn’t trust it to point me towards the easiest bosses first as soon as I encountered the Tree Sentry. So I explored the map right away. Caelid naturally made me feel like I was in over my head, so I returned to first area and noticed a secondary guidance of grace pointing me south, so I followed that. In the end I completed quite a lot of the introductory area before I rechallenged the sentry and then continued on my path. I knew I could just go around the sentry, but I wanted to defeat it before continuing the golden path. So my detour started good and early. Once I challenged Margit, he was a bit of challenge I suppose, but I had a few wolves helping me out and a sorcerer drawing aggro away. And I learned quickly that one of the best tools against Margit is to stand uphill and jump over his sweeping attacks and quickly punish. He’s quite susceptible to getting stunned and you get an opening then for big damage. Having some spells doesn’t hurt either. Going full melee feels like a poor choice this time around with so many mage options out there and bows and such. People call magic “overpowered”, but there are tools in the game to punish full magic users, strength builds just have to adapt to using something other than pure melee or assign the right ashes to their weapons.

this was my first souls game, he wasnt the hardest and most annoying for me was probably that secret dragon in dragon swirl palace thing

My answer to faze 2 was hide behind shield and summons

I think really this is a vigor check boss, flask check and a check to make sure you aren’t trying to be build like the previous games and going melee and 100 physical shield for easy mode .

The tree sentinel always fucking me up the worst😭

only thing i learned about phase two is when he pulls out the sword, just run

Margit gave me a ton of trouble my first play through which started about a month ago but after beating every other boss (except a few hidden behind quest bosses) i made a couple new build on fresh characters and i made him look like a first boss every time havent died once