ELAC Carina BS243.4-SB by Andrew Jones

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Comparing them to the the Focal Aria 906 and the Tannoy Revolution XT-6F

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  • @BinhNguyen-gh3hg
    @BinhNguyen-gh3hg3 жыл бұрын

    Nice. I have my white on black stand. The sound, just like u said, beautiful!

  • @danielobrien5099
    @danielobrien50992 жыл бұрын

    I have the white Carinas, same stands but black and sand filled natch. I love my Elac Carinas so concur all that you mention. My comment concerns decoupling and I have Sonic Design between speaker and stand and to my utter amazement there is absolutely no vibration travelling down to the floor and for the price of less than 30 euros they come highly recommended and are worth a try. Thank you for an personal entertaining home review, made me smile

  • @DigitalPhilosophers

    @DigitalPhilosophers

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for the recommendation!

  • @DigitalPhilosophers

    @DigitalPhilosophers

    2 жыл бұрын

    Could you please share a link to your decoupling items?

  • @maxmustermann1066

    @maxmustermann1066

    Жыл бұрын

    I also have the Carinas and am very interested in cheap good decoupling items. Could you provide a link please?

  • @bosco201
    @bosco2012 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for this review and this is the perfect time for me as I have recently purchased these speakers. I hooked them up with Audiolab 6000A (I feel like I need a higher power amp) and they sound like covered in a veil. Is it supposed like this? I wonder if I use a different amp, they could be more open? What amp are you using?

  • @DigitalPhilosophers

    @DigitalPhilosophers

    2 жыл бұрын

    If the Moon ACE, Moon 240i or 340i and up are in your range give them a try or the Elac Alcemy DPA-2

  • @bosco201

    @bosco201

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@DigitalPhilosophers Thank you for your suggestion. Completely forgot about Simaudio

  • @bosco201

    @bosco201

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@DigitalPhilosophers Never heard about the Elac amp. I might give it a try

  • @DigitalPhilosophers

    @DigitalPhilosophers

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@bosco201 Elac bought Alchemy a few years ago. They make great electronics

  • @DigitalPhilosophers
    @DigitalPhilosophers3 жыл бұрын

    boreness = boredom 😎 is the opposite of this speaker. It is high fidelity and fun an relaxing at the same time 🤩

  • @njkdsnckscnka32443
    @njkdsnckscnka324439 ай бұрын

    Hi, How do the carina's compare to the uni-fi 62 in terms of listening fatigue in terms of treble and upper mids? Witch one of the 2 is smoother and more easy on the ear?

  • @DigitalPhilosophers

    @DigitalPhilosophers

    9 ай бұрын

    I wouldn’t put one over the other when it comes to listening fatigue. Both are really easy on the ear. The main difference in my book is that the Carina is a bit snappier and the Uni-Fi has a bit better holographic imaging

  • @jc6993
    @jc69932 жыл бұрын

    I wish you can play some song demos even though its not ideal but I have a decent audiophile setup on my PC. . I just wanted to hear them. Thanks.

  • @nc3419
    @nc34192 жыл бұрын

    You stated the Carinas really aren't holographic but do they present a flat soundstage or is there some depth? I tried a Quad S2 which was highly resolving and detailed, more so than my Focal 807Ws but the Quads' soundstage was 2D flat and not very energetic, so with music I found them quite boring. The 807Ws should be very close to the Arias with a sharper upper mid and highs. The Poron tweeter in the Aria I found too smoothed over. Also, hard to beat the W sandwich driver. I do know how a good AMT tweeter sounds, it adds a more life like quality to the human voice. The Elac would be more laid back in comparison to the 807W but hopefully not a strictly 2-D soundstage. The 807W has some depth and during some passages, instruments can appear to my side or somewhere between the speakers and my listening position...that's difficult to let go of. Any thoughts appreciated.

  • @DigitalPhilosophers

    @DigitalPhilosophers

    2 жыл бұрын

    If I did so I was wrong. The Carinas are superb in every way including the width and depth of the soundstage (of course depending on the amp) Edit: not as holographic as good pointsource (coaxial design) speaker but that’s an unfair comparison when it comes to holographic imaging because that is something good coaxial designs excel at. The Carina is a fine sounding classic two way in every regard. The better the amp the better the Carina. That’s not the case for every speaker out there e. g. the Kenwood LS-K711

  • @nc3419

    @nc3419

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@DigitalPhilosophers Thanks. Trying to assess if it could be a good candidate to replace what I have now only for the reason I want to go smaller and it seems to work nearfield or a bit further away. I would be using a small Keces E40 which looks unimpressive in watts but it has current capability. Wish I could demo it. I think the lows and mids would be fine but don't know how much of the highs I might lose in comparison to Focal.

  • @Raymond-uo2rl
    @Raymond-uo2rl Жыл бұрын

    Hi I have the carina and am thinking about getting a vela. Is it worth the upgrade? I mainly listen to slow song with a lot of highs, but I also like the punchy/clean bass. Do you think vela has a stronger bass than carina?

  • @DigitalPhilosophers

    @DigitalPhilosophers

    Жыл бұрын

    A little bit. Keep in mind that the Carina sounds a little bit more neutral in tone. I liked that a lot about the Carina. Maybe try the Floorstander

  • @Raymond-uo2rl

    @Raymond-uo2rl

    Жыл бұрын

    @@DigitalPhilosophers What’s the reason for you to keep the Vela over Carina?

  • @user-kt9wy8pb6e
    @user-kt9wy8pb6e2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the interesting review. In your opinion, which acoustics provide a higher class of reproduction ELAC Carina BS243.4-SB or TotemKin Play?

  • @DigitalPhilosophers

    @DigitalPhilosophers

    2 жыл бұрын

    That’s a tough one…

  • @DigitalPhilosophers

    @DigitalPhilosophers

    2 жыл бұрын

    The better the amp, the better the Carina. With matching amps I would prefer the Carina since it is highly refined/balanced. Both are very transparent. The Carina sounds smoother overall and the KinPlay sound snappier.

  • @user-kt9wy8pb6e

    @user-kt9wy8pb6e

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@DigitalPhilosophers Thanks for the comparison! Definitely your answer speaks of a great achievement of Totem Kin Play acoustics, since some of the superiority of the Elac you are talking about is achieved by using a high-quality amplifier, which makes this setup twice as expensive as active Kin Play shelves!)

  • @DigitalPhilosophers

    @DigitalPhilosophers

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@user-kt9wy8pb6e Exactly!

  • @DigitalPhilosophers

    @DigitalPhilosophers

    2 жыл бұрын

    The KinPlay need 15-20 minutes to warm up each time I use them. The they sound balanced and dynamic. So never judge these by the first five songs. I don’t mean burn in I mean warm up which is true for a lot of amps in my past experience.

  • @rrrqwe2958
    @rrrqwe2958Ай бұрын

    Thank you for this vedio.Do you still recommend carina these day? I want to buy my first speakers, and it is difficult to choose between carina 243.4 and new Solano 283. Carina is over $1500 and Vela needs double in my area... I seen some reviews say that solano and vela have very similar sounds.That’s why solano is in my option.

  • @DigitalPhilosophers

    @DigitalPhilosophers

    Ай бұрын

    Carina! I could have settled with that speaker. Perfectly balanced and natural and quick and detailed and easy on the ear

  • @rrrqwe2958

    @rrrqwe2958

    Ай бұрын

    @@DigitalPhilosophers Sounds great, I'll go with Carina, thanks for your reply😁

  • @zzt231gr
    @zzt231gr3 жыл бұрын

    I have the floorstanders.They are amazing for their price! Will you keep those?

  • @DigitalPhilosophers

    @DigitalPhilosophers

    3 жыл бұрын

    I guess I will try a lot of speakers in my lifetime but if I had to keep these I would be happy. I would upgrade my amp and enjoy the Carinas even more

  • @zzt231gr

    @zzt231gr

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@DigitalPhilosophers Try the Exposure 3020S2.It plays excellent with the floorstanders.

  • @utub1473
    @utub14732 жыл бұрын

    Any chance you've compared these to the KEF LS50 Metas?

  • @DigitalPhilosophers

    @DigitalPhilosophers

    2 жыл бұрын

    Not yet

  • @lordnilsson1
    @lordnilsson1 Жыл бұрын

    How are they when listening to low(!) sound levels...? As good as at higher volumes... or...?

  • @DigitalPhilosophers

    @DigitalPhilosophers

    Жыл бұрын

    YES.

  • @amirmohammadi7074
    @amirmohammadi7074 Жыл бұрын

    Hello, which one do you like between this and Vela 403?

  • @DigitalPhilosophers

    @DigitalPhilosophers

    Жыл бұрын

    For prestige reasons I would pick the Vela. Sound alone, both are differently great. Both have a different tonality. The Vela sounds sweeter, the Carina more natural and more neutral. Both sound crisp and transparent. Both work with all kinds of genres. Given a good amp I could live with both and not missing anything

  • @anhy10ful
    @anhy10ful3 жыл бұрын

    Have you had chance to compare it with the Vela BS403?

  • @DigitalPhilosophers

    @DigitalPhilosophers

    3 жыл бұрын

    Not yet

  • @zzt231gr

    @zzt231gr

    2 жыл бұрын

    Velas are very coloured speakers...Carinas are neutral!

  • @djaxe32
    @djaxe323 жыл бұрын

    Have you tried the Triangle Gaia EZ? I would like to see what you think about them. For me they are one of the better options in the 1000-2000 Euro price class (compact floorstanders)

  • @SuperSnks
    @SuperSnks3 ай бұрын

    Hi! Its been 3 years since your video. How are you liking the Carinas? I am looking to purchase them and just wanted to get additional feedback. Thank you

  • @DigitalPhilosophers

    @DigitalPhilosophers

    3 ай бұрын

    Which amp and source do you plan to combine it with?

  • @SuperSnks

    @SuperSnks

    3 ай бұрын

    It might sound odd but I'm actually intending to use it on a desk and powered by a class D amp. If that does not work I could get an audiolab a6000. What do you think ?

  • @SuperSnks

    @SuperSnks

    3 ай бұрын

    Tidal and a6000's onboard dac will be the source

  • @DigitalPhilosophers

    @DigitalPhilosophers

    3 ай бұрын

    @@SuperSnks I can only say that I am a big fan of the 6000A (Play).

  • @sloppydoggy9257
    @sloppydoggy9257 Жыл бұрын

    Would these be ok for a desktop computer setup? Too close?

  • @DigitalPhilosophers

    @DigitalPhilosophers

    Жыл бұрын

    They do actually work in near field

  • @sippys8391
    @sippys83912 жыл бұрын

    Hello there enjoyed your video! Could you please advise on the difference and how much better are these in comparison to the Uni R Floor Standers 52? Secondly how much they are worth when comparing to Vela? These are quite a bit dearer than UniFidfr52 or Bookshelves. Regards n Appreciations

  • @DigitalPhilosophers

    @DigitalPhilosophers

    2 жыл бұрын

    I can only compare the bookshelf Carina to the bookshelf Unifi. Both are designed by Andrew Jones so both have a natural/organic sounding midrange. The Carina is more transparent and crisper. Holographic imaging is better with the Unifi due to its concentric tweeter/mid driver array. Treble is sweeter with the Carina imo. The Unifi has more bass in quantity so the floorstander should have even more. When it comes to bass quality both are fine. All in all both sound different due to their different designs and materials

  • @sippys8391

    @sippys8391

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@DigitalPhilosophers good morning from India! Really appreciate your reply n clearing the air. The Carina is almost double the price of unifi here in India so was in a fix, secondly I can’t audition them as I live in a far off place so trusting n taking help from audiophiles like yourself. Thanks n Best 🙏

  • @sippys8391

    @sippys8391

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@DigitalPhilosophers if I decide to buy spend twice the price of unifi and go ahead with Carina will that be a good decision leave the different sound signature thing aside. Will carina be a better choice against MOnitor Audio Silver 7g 500, Martin Logan xti40 etc. As long as I get more speaker out of my investment I’m happy to spend on Carina. There are not many reviews of Carina’s whereas Unifi is loaded with reviews. I’m building the system with Marantz 8015 and would be using the dedicated room for both music n home theatre (mainly the music world be streamed through KZread and other apps. Since I have not listened to many speakers anything which has clarity, detailing, openness, depth n imaging would serve me as I’m the first timer slash last timer 😜 have a great day ☮️

  • @DigitalPhilosophers

    @DigitalPhilosophers

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@sippys8391 My best advice is you have to listen and get to know your own taste. All the speakers you named sound amazing

  • @sippys8391

    @sippys8391

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@DigitalPhilosophers hahahaha very clever answer.. I may get a good deal on Elacs so keen on them while making some saving and still buying an Audiophile’s delight with looks n build to match! Really grateful for your replies n time ☮️🙏

  • @Goanaut218
    @Goanaut21816 күн бұрын

    Wie würdest du sie gegen die Monitor Audio Bronze sehen? Hatte schon Klipsch rp-500m ii und 6000f ii die klangen mir einfach zu hell. Allerdings haben sie sehr viel spaß im Filmbetrieb gemacht. Ich hab etwas angeht dass die carina vielleicht zu zurückhaltend ist für Film. Dynamik ist sehr wichtig für Filmbetrieb. Da soll die Monitor audio bronze besser sein Allerdings soll sie auch wieder heller klingen und weniger natural. Das klingt bei deiner Beschreibung der Carinas mehr danach was mir gefällt vom Klang.

  • @DigitalPhilosophers

    @DigitalPhilosophers

    16 күн бұрын

    I rate these Carinas higher than the RP600M when listening to music. When watching a film both do their job flawlessly. With music the carina takes the lead

  • @fedrichorlandineumann3062
    @fedrichorlandineumann30623 жыл бұрын

    Oh my god !!!the technics 700?????

  • @DigitalPhilosophers

    @DigitalPhilosophers

    3 жыл бұрын

    At low volumes the SU-G700 isn’t my first choice

  • @latle111
    @latle1113 жыл бұрын

    Man I wanna get the Golden Ear BRX but this carina is gorgeous.

  • @DigitalPhilosophers

    @DigitalPhilosophers

    3 жыл бұрын

    So far, when it comes to bookshelf speakers with an AMT the Vela is by far the best I’ve heard.

  • @latle111

    @latle111

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@DigitalPhilosophers Ive considered the Carina in the past but the BRX seems more for me. I have to admit the Carina price and looks are very beautiful.

  • @SilentHillFetishist
    @SilentHillFetishist2 жыл бұрын

    I own the non-carina BS243.3 in special paintjob and can compare them to Pfleid PP8.

  • @jasoncanda9905

    @jasoncanda9905

    Жыл бұрын

    Whats the difference of 243.3 and 243.4?

  • @SilentHillFetishist

    @SilentHillFetishist

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jasoncanda9905 The size and the bottom frequency.

  • @mateusznowak7040
    @mateusznowak70403 жыл бұрын

    Elac besser wie Tannoy ? Mateusz

  • @mateusznowak7040

    @mateusznowak7040

    3 жыл бұрын

    ??????

  • @DigitalPhilosophers

    @DigitalPhilosophers

    3 жыл бұрын

    Fortunately there is no „better“🤩 That’s a compliment for both speakers. If you want a bit more natural/organic and lean back sound it’s the Carina. If you want more open/lively sound it is Tannoy.

  • @steventsimtsos4029

    @steventsimtsos4029

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@DigitalPhilosophers Well said, there is No Better, it is all what pleases your ears 🎶. Everyone has different tastes and preferences

  • @TheLWebb100
    @TheLWebb1002 жыл бұрын

    Too much Kanto tuk slander bro lol.

  • @DigitalPhilosophers

    @DigitalPhilosophers

    2 жыл бұрын

    In this video?

  • @DigitalPhilosophers

    @DigitalPhilosophers

    2 жыл бұрын

    I really didn’t like the sound of the Kanto Tuk

  • @TheLWebb100

    @TheLWebb100

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@DigitalPhilosophers Lol it's all good. The Tuks were my first AMT speaker and I'm blown away.

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