00:01 Movement I 08:11 Movement II 17:02 Movement III (19:52 Cadenza)

@supasayajinsongoku4464

Жыл бұрын

Transcribe yoshimatsus first pleiade dances please man PLEASE😭

Rautavaara is the only contemporary composer I've heard so far that uses all these crazy dissonances in such an elegant way.

@Whatismusic123

9 ай бұрын

"Elegant" is not a very accurate description of "completely random noise"

@themobiusfunction

9 ай бұрын

​@@Whatismusic123why

@GUILLOM

23 күн бұрын

​@@Whatismusic123one of your worst attempts at baiting 💀

Man that cadenza is... something else.

When i think about the word "masterpiece" this piece is one of those pieces which comes to my mind first. Rautavaara is an absolute legend!

@Whatismusic123

9 ай бұрын

Legendary as in, the great extent of his incompetence will go down in history books.

@themobiusfunction

9 ай бұрын

​@@Whatismusic123why

Great job on the transcription!

@Cmaj7

7 жыл бұрын

Thanks! That took a lot of work.

@classicalmusicanalysis

7 жыл бұрын

Wow! I wanted to post it on my website but I didn't find the score. The fact you've transcribed it bar by bar is mindblowing, thank you very much!

@leonardo.labrada

7 жыл бұрын

Amazing! The cadenza need some fixing, but it's great!

@apzzpa

3 жыл бұрын

@@Cmaj7 Do you transcribe these aurally or from score?

the Colin Currie Cadenza is also used by Christoph Sietzen on his recording "Incantations".

Muzyka E.Rautavaary to twórczość wspaniała odkrywcza Finnowie to naród naprawdę innowacyjny w każdej nieomal dziedzinie mało mówią a tylko działają można brać przykład dziękuję

At 21:00 the "bongos" are not actually bongos, it's a woodblock played with the foot (with a pedal). At least that's what it seems having watched Colin Currie's performance of the cadenza (it's on KZread). Anyway, thanks for the video and nice transcription!

@vallieplushie

9 ай бұрын

yaya it sounds like a pedal woodblock, but in the published cadenza it says that it's a pedal cowbell, so idk...

thanks for your uploads! I always enjoy discovering some new and interesting pieces

Thank you so much ! I love Rautavaara !

Perfect songs to read the subjective forms of the clouds and to follow with a tender eye the grooves of the stems of the trees; appreciate the complex writing of the nested branches, taste the colors of the decomposition of light into water droplets in a garden, and strongly feel the wet soil of ancestral forest to perceive the traces of animals from deep past 🦄

Einojuhani Rautavaara: Ütőhangszerverseny 1. Pesante - Poco agitato - Energico - Poetico - Animato - Poetico - Animato - Sostenuto - Pesante 00:00 2. Epressivo - Poetico - Poco animato - Tempo epressivo - Poetico - Tranquillo 08:11 3.Animato - Con fouco - Come prima ma poco meno mosso - Meno mosso ma vigoroso - Animato - Vigoroso - Animato - Vigoroso - Con fouco - Libero - Cadenza - Grandioso 17:02 Colin Currie-ütőhangszer Helsinki Filharmonikus Zenekar Vezényel:John Storgårds

@klop4228

5 жыл бұрын

And this is why I don't normally like movements to be listed by their tempi

the cadenza is available on nkoda, your transcription is great but what's interesting is the difference in how you've interpreted the rhythm! for example you've written the section at 20:56 shifted by one 16th to the left (the lowest note leads the group, like the start of the 3rd movement! and also in this section, the instrument is a cowbell with a pedal :] so impressive for a transcription by ear omg

Love this piece!

They were going to perform this here in Scotland a couple years ago, but there was really bad snow and they couldn't put it together. A shame, cos it's a great piece.

@apzzpa

3 жыл бұрын

Scotland seems to like Rautavaara a lot. Seen a bunch of performances of Rautavaara's works by the RSNO

@klop4228

3 жыл бұрын

@@apzzpa Us Scots have good taste :P

@Whatismusic123

2 жыл бұрын

this is garbage

@themobiusfunction

9 ай бұрын

​@@Whatismusic123no it isn't

Thanks so much for sharing this!

Great job!!🎵

Wow, 3rd movement is defenitely awesome! liked

@GUILLOM

3 жыл бұрын

h

Pretty powerful stuff.

The first part sounds like the theme of the first piano concerto!

@daniellennon9993

7 жыл бұрын

Not really...

@tfpp1

7 жыл бұрын

Actually, a little, yeah...because I thought the same thing. I think it's his use of minor seconds in the tops of his parallel-moving chords.

Did you transcribe the cadenza by ear AND the whole Concerto in Dorico? What a feat!

@Cmaj7

7 жыл бұрын

No, I didn't transcribe the whole concerto; I just did the cadenza. I did however edit it to make it fit better on the screen and more accurately reflect what's being played. Also, I don't have Dorico and I don't think the people who originally made the score did either.

This sounds like it was composed on Sibelius or Finale. I don’t quite know how to explain it, but it’s very much a feeling I get from the motivic, rhythmic, and melodic structure of the piece.

@korhonenmikko

3 жыл бұрын

Well, Rautavaara wrote all his music by hand on paper.

@Whatismusic123

2 жыл бұрын

@@korhonenmikko no wonder it sucks so much, he never listened to it on playback! LMAO

@decafcoffee0935

2 жыл бұрын

@@Whatismusic123 I don't care if you hate it, if you don't like it shut the hell up and screw off, because everyone else who is here and stays here likes it and don't need to see your attacks on Rautavaara's music. Incidentally, he's already dead, so what's the point of attacking a dead composer? Let him rest in peace and just shut up. Thanks.

@themobiusfunction

9 ай бұрын

​@@Whatismusic123 why

so good ...

There is a written error in the solo percussion part (and thus also in Curries playing) in bar 170 in movement I. The fourth note from the end of the bar ("four and") is written as an e, but should be as in every other similar situation through the concerto following the melody, and should thus be an f instead.

Questo autore è una bella scoperta

So, if you transcribed the cadenza, does that mean it wasn't written in the score? I feel like this might be an obvious question :P. But it's not nearly as common nowadays to see a cadenza which isn't written in.

I love...

Hello Cmaj 7, Thank you for transcribing the "Incantations," Percussion Concerto. I am presenting this piece for a Modern Music Theory course in my music school. Is it possible for you to email the PDF of your transcription? How much would your transcription cost? Thank you and I look forward to your reply. :)

@Cmaj7

6 жыл бұрын

The score is distributed by Boosey and Hawkes, so you can find (a slightly different version of) the score at boosey.com.

Does anyone know where I can buy the score?

giga based Rautavaara

22:14 no lower E in the marimba tremolo ;)

I can not find the score of this concert anywhere. Does anyone know where I can buy the original score?

@klop4228

5 жыл бұрын

Cmaj7 says, a couple comments up (as of this comment), that you can get it from the Boosey & Hawkes website. Or, I guess, you could painstakingly copy it out from here (or just take screenshots). Probably a lot more effort, though.

@anjagoller

3 жыл бұрын

@@klop4228 And screenshots would be pretty illegal

@klop4228

3 жыл бұрын

@@anjagoller well, sure, if you care that much anout copyright law

@anjagoller

3 жыл бұрын

@@klop4228 Being a composer is probably the hardest job in the world, because you can barely earn money with it. If in addition to that people just copy the scores instead of buying it, makes it close to impossible to survive.

@anjagoller

2 жыл бұрын

@@seanriedy usually the composers rights go to their offsprings or any other person who inherited the rights if a composition hasn't been sold to the publisher completely, which is not very common for classical music. I do understand your point though and I also think that composers get a too small percentage of the sales price of sheet music. So I'm not exactly on the publishers side.

It seems like a horror piece, which I'm not sure is intentional or not, or due to the missing pieces. Interesting and impressive nonetheless!

Amazing

Great concerto and transcription, although I'm a little confused as to why Rautavaara ended it on a V chord, unresolved.

@benjaminnylander1355

6 жыл бұрын

it's not a V chord

@ubershmuck

6 жыл бұрын

At 22:22 the tonal center is D, and it ends on some type of A chord. A is the V of D.

@benjaminnylander1355

6 жыл бұрын

It's in Phrygian mode

@ubershmuck

6 жыл бұрын

How does that change anything?

@benjaminnylander1355

6 жыл бұрын

It sounds like the V due to the flat 2 to 1 motion but it's not the V

How did you make this typeset?

@Cmaj7

6 жыл бұрын

The full score was done by Boosey and Hawkes. I typeset the cadenza in Musescore.

@Cmaj7

5 жыл бұрын

Only the cadenza

I hated this piece the first time I heard it. Rautavaara is now my favorite composer.

@Whatismusic123

2 жыл бұрын

yeah because you're stupid and fell for the chants of how unique he is even though he cannot even come up with anything listenable or logical, he just adds a bunch of dissonance to every note for the "wow factor" but in reality it is just a bunch of random noise overlayed by a good melody.

@themobiusfunction

9 ай бұрын

​@@Whatismusic123yeah because you must somehow know everything about music

Pas mal, à tester avec du seitan !

I love this "wrongly" played chords like you are practising to play

Hey, I notice a few errors in the transcription. The first note is a low A (A2) and the fourth eighth note in the first bar is a low E (E2)

@Cmaj7

7 жыл бұрын

Darn harmonics...

@zacharydetrick7428

7 жыл бұрын

haha yeah i figured... other than that it's a really nice transcription!

@calatria2949

7 жыл бұрын

The marimba hit at 20:42 sounds like it has an 8ve underneath or am I hearing harmonics too...

@mlefeb

6 жыл бұрын

There's some stuff in the cadenza that's off too. You have a high Gb marked at 20:35 when it's an Eb and at 20:39 there's a C#7 which should be a B#7

@mlefeb

6 жыл бұрын

Oh and the marimba tremolo at 22:13 is marked an octave higher than what is played

Marimbas accostumished to read just one treble clef: Rautavaara with a 3 clefed marimba: *"I gonna end this man whole career"*

Maybe the most beautiful percussion concerto I have heard. I am a dummy but is this a xylophone or a marimba?

@GUILLOM

2 жыл бұрын

Both

Excuse my ignorance, but why do I get the feeling that the musical thinking is really close to tonality, but then it's artificially "muddled" so to speak? Isn't that more of a superficial, cosmetic thing? The cadenza and the two sections directly before it were amazing.

@alejandrom.4680

4 жыл бұрын

Is his own musical world, is not just cosmetic, but his musical identity.

@klop4228

4 жыл бұрын

I mean, it pretty much is tonal. One of his tricks does appear to be using a perfectly tonal tune, just in parallel chords, where the chord is a dissonant. Even so, I think he makes it work. And there's a lot of other stuff behind his music than that.

@SharkTurd11

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I would describe it as a texture rather than an approach to harmony.

@Whatismusic123

2 жыл бұрын

it's extremely superficial and cosmetic, those saying it is a music identity are stupid dickriders that think everything by everyone has a genious intention. he just makes everything dissonant to convince people that it is more than it seems, which it is not.

@themobiusfunction

9 ай бұрын

​@@Whatismusic123no

The beginning sounds like a luscious tonal passage gone horribly wrong...................ON PURPOSE!!!!

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Hang on-this score looks like Dorico. That wasn't around in 2008...

@Cmaj7

7 жыл бұрын

They must be able to time travel then.

where did you get the sheet music?

Proof that modern classical music does not have to be noise. This is truly beautiful and modern. Be sure to you tube American Bela Fleck's banjo concerto. Yes a banjo with orchestra. He has written and performed two concertos but maybe only one KZread. You will like it

@Whatismusic123

9 ай бұрын

This is noise

@themobiusfunction

9 ай бұрын

@@Whatismusic123 No it isn't

@Whatismusic123

9 ай бұрын

@@themobiusfunction yes it is

@themobiusfunction

9 ай бұрын

@@Whatismusic123 why

@Whatismusic123

9 ай бұрын

@@themobiusfunction he just writes a melody and places completely random noise beneath and above it. There is no logic in this nonsense.

v

@steveegallo3384

5 жыл бұрын

ἦθος ἀνθρώπῳ δαίμων….Greetings from México!

It starts off sounding like a bad high school band. But of course those off sounding notes have to be on purpose.

@Whatismusic123

9 ай бұрын

"He must know what he's doing" is a sure-fire way to fall for a sham.

@yowzephyr

9 ай бұрын

@@Whatismusic123 I guess you must know what you're talking about.

@themobiusfunction

9 ай бұрын

@@yowzephyr they don't know what they're talking about at all

I like this piece but how boring the orchestration is makes it significantly less enjoyable for me, comparing with his first piano concerto or concerto for harp

@theoboueid6450

Жыл бұрын

I guess making the orchestration any more dense than that would've drowned the soloist. I like to think of the piece as chamber music rather than a symphonic mass.

Quite disappointing for me, compard to the first piano concerto, nothing really new... I stick with the spnatas, the 3rd symphony, Suite de Lorca, Etudes... but this is actually not much fun... :(

@GUILLOM

4 жыл бұрын

This piece is really interesting, if you want to understand it better you should know that the third movement is an orchestation of his danza from "notturno e danza"

@Whatismusic123

2 жыл бұрын

@@GUILLOM lmao you are so pretentious, this is just a tonal melody filled with a bunch of random dissonance beneath it, it is not as interesting as you think.

@GUILLOM

2 жыл бұрын

@@Whatismusic123 Hello guys, Guillom here to save the comment thread! So this kid seems to believe he's a funny troll and therefore likes posting bait comments in *every score video in existence.* Please ignore him, don't even bother replying, just go on with your life lol.

@Whatismusic123

2 жыл бұрын

@@GUILLOMhello guys, this guillom guy thinks he's a stupid idiot and posts stupid comments in *every score video in existence* please ignore him, he is extremely stupid and has no knowledge at all about music as it somehow flies over his tiny mind

@themobiusfunction

9 ай бұрын

​@@Whatismusic123no

Awful

@GUILLOM

2 жыл бұрын

No u

@HelloooThere

2 жыл бұрын

@@GUILLOM if I performed this piece for an audience they would all snarl and ask what is that and walk right out

@GUILLOM

2 жыл бұрын

@@HelloooThere so funny 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

@HelloooThere

2 жыл бұрын

@Schuyler Bacn no

Coisa horrível

@jg-reis

7 жыл бұрын

Realmente… já ouvi música dissonante de que gostei (p.ex. Threnody de Penderecki), mas isto eu não estou a conseguir escutar… A dissonância não parece ter lógica, pelo menos para os meus ouvidos.

@EdNeyBraga

6 жыл бұрын

Ouve de novo, deve ter tido algum problema no teu fone de ouvido

@alejandrom.4680

4 жыл бұрын

@@teacoffee42 Totally agree with you. I had the same process, but I started in the reinassence so, I had even more time to get accostumished to it.

@vine2197

Жыл бұрын

@@alejandrom.4680 hi