Hard to believe KTM canned their 500cc twin Adventure bike , I think the 500 twin adventure market will definitely will become the fastest growing segment over the next few years

@PeakMotorcycles

8 ай бұрын

Indeed. That 490 platform would have also been great in the super sports, though they have a partnership with CFMoto so perhaps it was an agreement not to duplicate work?

Let's take a moment to appreciate: Tubeless tyres Nice big dashboard Stock with full crash bars, bash plate, pannier racks and rear rack Fog lights Decent ground clerance 21-18 tyres High exhaust 17 litres Twin cylinder 44Hp 44Nm USD forks Switchable ABS 175kg dry (including all protection?) Adjuatable screen What is Honda and Kawasaki doing? Has anyone seen Yamaha? This bike is actually insane

@DragosRDS

8 ай бұрын

You forgot tubeless tires ! Yes this bike is awsome !

@DragosRDS

8 ай бұрын

And maybe it will come with an included nav phone !!! Daaaaamn

@PeakMotorcycles

8 ай бұрын

Yup, it's pretty good.

@DragosRDS

8 ай бұрын

@@PeakMotorcycles thank you Andre for the video ! Could you please see if the bike has power today ? Maybe we could see how the dash looks that would be great, maybe some of the menu's ? Does it have riding modes ?

@Jonathan-L

8 ай бұрын

It's good to see bikes coming standard with 'must have' accessories, especially the protection bars, bashplate, racks and centre stand. From what I see, the new 450 adventure bike in stock form doesnt't need any money spent on it.

I'm definitely interested in the 450MT. CFMOTO is really pushing the boundaries.

@PeakMotorcycles

8 ай бұрын

Yup, I think it looks great.

@MotoSly

5 ай бұрын

I boutht one... well still waiting offcourse. But they allready have my money 😅

@emilp100

4 ай бұрын

​@@MotoSly how much is it?

@MotoSly

4 ай бұрын

@@emilp100 it was €7000

CF Moto seem to be stepping their game up and are starting to look like a genuine competitor to the established European and Japanese brands, maybe their tie up with KTM is paying dividends, if they get their act together with their UK dealer network then a bike from CF Moto may well be worth a look, as for the 450 MT , it's a great looking bike which appears well equipped, if it's priced right it could well be a winner.

@PeakMotorcycles

8 ай бұрын

Yup, definitely. Price will be key I think up against the new Himalayan will hopefully make it more competitive.

@theeschatechannel2854

8 ай бұрын

My thoughts exactly. Really disappointed with Hondas new NX500 but that 450MT is the bike a lot of people have been asking for.

@Adventure_blac

8 ай бұрын

For sure!!!!

@andyc750

8 ай бұрын

they are imported by KTM now and use the same dealer and spares network, and incidentally they are the bigger percentage holder of the tie up deal

@malitiemmanuel1321

8 ай бұрын

​@@PeakMotorcycles I think the 450 SRS needed more time for a proper introduction! It's their best package so far.

I love how CfMoto does what other companies don't. Japanese bike companies have been selling the same sh*t over the years since there were no competition. but now things are about to change. Great job CfMoto!

@PeakMotorcycles

8 ай бұрын

Yup, I hope they shake things up.

Prettier than the current Hondas.

@PeakMotorcycles

8 ай бұрын

Yup. Prettier than a lot of things.....

@theeschatechannel2854

8 ай бұрын

That new NX500 (CB500X) is trash.

@clangerbasher

8 ай бұрын

@@theeschatechannel2854 If I knew nothing about bikes and was shown badgeless examples from both brands, especially the Honda 500s I would probably think they were the Chinese bikes. There is just not much effort in their looks. They look like the same bike with different bits glued on. Not good.

@theeschatechannel2854

8 ай бұрын

@@clangerbasher I’ve been waiting a few years for the new NX and was really hoping for a light weight adv that wasn’t completely gutless (crf300 rally) and then Honda went and redressed a cb500x. So disappointing and what a waste of the NX line. But hey, if CFMoto is going to step up then I’ll switch brands. Honda’s loss, not mine. 🤷🏼‍♂️

@eastsidebadger8416

8 ай бұрын

@@theeschatechannel2854Agreed but CF needs to get more dealers and do it quickly

Thats my bike! Tomorrow will place the deposit on the first ones. Also, will be trading my KTM 890 Adventure R soon. In my opinion, KTM has made a huge mistake by canceling the 490 platform based on this same magnificent engine. Here in France, those who has tried the same engine in a different chassis are calling hem "the best engine in the category". Bravo CF Moto ! We were waiting this coming from Japanese or European manufactures since...too long. Thanks Andre for this review✌

@PeakMotorcycles

8 ай бұрын

Awesome! I must admit, I'm quite tempted by a 450 MT myself....

@metalsadman

8 ай бұрын

@@PeakMotorcycles they sound great 270, many SRs and NKs running here in the Philippines. still waiting for kove/brixx to refresh their lineup here.

@crazyosva

8 ай бұрын

@@PeakMotorcycles pre-ordered mine this morning :) Not exact price yet, but that would be something about 7600/7800 eur in France

@jeremyalves3089

6 ай бұрын

@@crazyosvaSalut, des nouvelles concernant le prix? cette meule m'intéresse beaucoup, vendu mon africa twin il y a 2 ans car trop lourd et puissant., pas de moto depuis et je pense partir sur celle ci pour cette ete si elle sort d'ici la

Brilliant...thanks- great video. That 450 is an superb looking bike. I agree with you, the Japanese manufacturer's should follow CF Moto's lead....when you can buy a good looking, functional bike that comes equipped with lots of accessories...the Honda's and the Suzuki's pale in comparison. I really think my next bike will be a CF Moto!

@PeakMotorcycles

8 ай бұрын

That is currently a popular opinion.

I love this 450 and I love the new Himalayan. So glad to see great looking 450cc adv bikes. Eat it Japan and Europe.

@PeakMotorcycles

8 ай бұрын

Couldn't agree more!

I've been waiting for a long time for something between KTM 390 adv --and "bigboys"(700+) I don't need too much weight or power or price.) I was waiting for something like Bajaj Dominar ADV , half price KTM . maybe this is it! leaderboard : CFMoto 450 MT, ktm390adv, Himalayan 452, Triumph Scrambler 400 X (super beautiful)) big four Japanese, overboard :/

@PeakMotorcycles

8 ай бұрын

Not a bad list is it! Especially when three of the four are new. Good luck!

Loving your videos by the way. I am also here at EICMA and as a T7 owner and DR650 owner, that MT450 is in serious consideration for me. I was able to talk with the CF Moto rep and asked him about what was on the bike. Apparently the rally seat,crash bars, acc lights, caliper protector and the side stand larger foot is all accessories . Stock bike he said has two piece seat like my T7. Just wanted to say awesome videos and really enjoyed all your videos.

@PeakMotorcycles

8 ай бұрын

That's good to know and thanks. Hopefully the accessories will be CFMoto prices and not BMW prices!

Wow they look stunning, all of them. The GP would be any teenagers dream bike. The adventure bikes are amazing. How can big manufacturers come out with such ugly looking bikes and the less known or Chinese bikes come up with some amazing bikes. What engine did the concept have? Tks for your great uploads and work. Luv the top notch info. As usual Tks

@PeakMotorcycles

8 ай бұрын

My guess is that the concept has the 450 twin from the 450 MT. I'll see if I can find out for certain.

Brilliant coverage, thanks mate! Looks like CFMoto are listening to the buyers, rather than trying to dictate the market! Sales will tell all I suppose!

@PeakMotorcycles

8 ай бұрын

Absolutely. It'll be great to ride one and see what they've done to the engine from the 450 SRS. Hopefully it doesn't need to be pushed too hard to work well.

@Cabooseified

8 ай бұрын

​@@PeakMotorcyclesthat's what worries me having owned an X-300. Hopefully they did something with the gearing for the 5th and 6th

Thanks for sharing this Stand at the show Epic stuff from CFMoto

@PeakMotorcycles

8 ай бұрын

It's good isn't it.

@skyworx524

8 ай бұрын

Sure is Andre . Looks forward to more of the show Thanks again

Thanks for you video...I'm really waiting for 450 Mt...looks nice design....

@PeakMotorcycles

8 ай бұрын

You and me both!

Cf moto will rule in India since honda n Yamaha ignore the midweight adv demand in country....really waiting for the launch in India @CFmoto🙌

@PeakMotorcycles

8 ай бұрын

Great. It’ll be interesting to see how it does vs the Himi 452 in its home market.

@nuclear9977

8 ай бұрын

​@@PeakMotorcyclesall depends on the pricing in india. It will do great even if it's priced $800 higher than the himalayan 450. Himalayan final price will be around $4000-4200 in india so if CF Moto can launch it in that price range then it will be a real competitor but I am thinking their final pricing will be somewhere around $5k with original stuff being replaced by cheaper parts and that will kill their game. Will be very hard for CF MOTO to compete with RE 450 in india, RE 450 ex showroom price in india is $3400 and after all the taxes and insurance it will go upto $4200.

@PeakMotorcycles

8 ай бұрын

@@nuclear9977I think there’s a 100% tax on imported bikes, so unless CFMoto can manufacture in India, I can’t see how they could sell a bike like the 450MT and price it competitively. So it may end up being for the non-India market only. I guess that is the price of protectionism.

Thanks for the video , 450Mt and MTX ARE A BEAST 👌👌

@PeakMotorcycles

8 ай бұрын

Yes they are!

The 450MT sounds like the ideal adventure bike for someone my size. Can’t wait

@PeakMotorcycles

8 ай бұрын

I'm sure it will do very well.

If I'm not wrong, the 173kg on the 450-MT is the DRY weight. The Kerb weight of Himalayan 452 is 196kg but i read somewhere that the dry weight is actually 181kg. Sill heavier but not by 23kg. Looks wise, the 450-MT looks very European in it's styling and resembles much like other ADV bikes. The Himalayan is little offbeat and the Rally looks awesome! Lowest Seat height difference is only 5mm with the Himalayan having slightly more ground clearance. 450-MT comes with adjustable front suspension and wind shield as well. I wonder how they compare in fast corners with the Himalayan having a longer Wheelbase. Price could be a great determining factor.

@PeakMotorcycles

8 ай бұрын

Yup, I think you're right on the weight. My mistake.

@waynerobertson511

8 ай бұрын

@@PeakMotorcycles Extra cylinder on the CFMoto though!

@giuliobuccini208

8 ай бұрын

Yeah. I was interested into the new Hymalayan, but the CFMoto 450 MT seems way better. With lithium battery and some light aftermarket muffler I think one can take away additional 4-5 Kilos.

@GinZzZ98

8 ай бұрын

​@@giuliobuccini208 In my experience with some China bike like Leoncino or TRK of Benelli family. The weight of the Muffler and the exhaust is close to 10-15 kilogram in total, maybe with the 450MT, changing the Exhaust and replace full system pipe will reduce about 10 kilos xD

@Liberty4Ever

8 ай бұрын

Dry weight on the 450 MT, yes, but presumably that includes an aluminum bash plate, rear rack, engine protection bars and maybe even a pannier rack? Those are add-on purchases on other ADV bikes anywhere close to this price range, but also additional weight they're not counting in their wet weight spec.

Nice vlog loved cfmoto

@PeakMotorcycles

8 ай бұрын

Thanks

Doing a top job reporting all these bikes, watched your eicma coverage last year too

@PeakMotorcycles

8 ай бұрын

Thanks. I still don't know why I do it! 🤣

CFMoto is making very quick turnaround in upgrades and tweaks based on customer input, and coming out with new models as well. As you touched on, they've partnered with KTM and apparently made the 650 engines for Kawasaki as well (and that's why they used them in their own models to start)? And they've been making ATVs for a long while. The CL-X is a striking bike in person. I was eager to see the 450NK and MT models, and that 800NK naked looks interesting also.... They are making inroads quickly! Meanwhile some of the old brands are moving so slowly it seems. Both the China and India based manufacturers are going to make more and more noise in the market.

@PeakMotorcycles

8 ай бұрын

They are and when they get the design, quality, service and price right the established brands might be in trouble. It happened before with Japan in the 1970’s. This time it seems to be quicker.

Very well presented! I’d bet your hanging to see the KOVE 800X😉 But, definitely the CFMoto 450MT is a great entry level rally bike trying to catch up with KOVE

@PeakMotorcycles

8 ай бұрын

I've seen it. (That's my next edit. 'Should be up in an hour or so. It's just gone 2230 here, and I decided to work until midnight. I have another long day of fliming tomorrow, and I have Thursday and Friday to keep editing, so no point burning out on day 1!)

@IdahoDualSport208

8 ай бұрын

I’d put CFM above Kove just in relation to dealer support. Especially with CFM having association with KTM now. Love seeing the competition in this category, though!

Why is it that no major OEM does these sorta bikes?! Guess no one would buy the heavy expensive "enduros" anymore. This CFMoto is close to what a dream adv bike looks like. Tubeless wheels, modern display etc. I hope it succeeds as a wake up call for the big OEMs to get into the lightweight adv bike segment with around 50hp no bullshit bikes.

@PeakMotorcycles

8 ай бұрын

Yup. It's a shame really, but hopefully bikes like this (and the Kove 800X) are disruptive and successful enough for the major manufacturers to take note and to stop churning out 100hp, 240kg "Middleweight" adventure bikes. I think this 450 MT will be a hit and I look forward to seeing what follows.

Interesting CF MOTO seriously doing well stunning looks and quality in everything's hopes to hear more from you bro

@PeakMotorcycles

8 ай бұрын

Thanks ✌️

Wow great coverage on these bikes I was looking to get a 800 MT but their hard to come by and that 450 MT looks pretty nice...

@dipankarbaiswal6506

8 ай бұрын

Got for 450 mt. It's wiser choice

@SimpleAsBDCs

8 ай бұрын

@@dipankarbaiswal6506 yeah I’m look into it…

@PeakMotorcycles

8 ай бұрын

I’m hoping they will be available. Waiting to see.

Dream bike

@PeakMotorcycles

4 ай бұрын

I hope so!

Merci pour cette vidéo 👍

@PeakMotorcycles

8 ай бұрын

Thanks!

CFMOTO! It's Just giving a big kick to the hits of many very known brands!! Isn't it!!?

@PeakMotorcycles

8 ай бұрын

I'd like to think it'll make them take notice. Bigger, better, faster, higher tech and therefore higher price, isn't always what people want. There seem to be a lot of bikes the wrong side of £20k in the the UK right now, and while 150hp+ is fun, you really don't need it for most things. I'm looking forward to giving the CFMoto a try!

@eastsidebadger8416

8 ай бұрын

Agreed but the Japanese/euro brands have a big dealer network and that matters. I would be very interested in CF but there aren’t any dealers anywhere close.

@joseaguirre7517

8 ай бұрын

@@eastsidebadger8416 that's right!! But if you read about the brand !! They are already building shops almost in whole Europe!! Also en UK!! Central and southamerica .. Australia .. África etc!! USA in every state already!! With the name Cfmoto Ibex!

Excellent video, top effort!

@PeakMotorcycles

8 ай бұрын

Many thanks!

Phenomenal

@PeakMotorcycles

8 ай бұрын

It is.

thanks for the video!! just a friendly suggestion, don't focus on what YOU see with your camera, rather pan slowly and stop so now and then and let us (your viewers) look around at our pace.

@PeakMotorcycles

6 ай бұрын

Thanks

I fall in love ... this is this bike what i want to have.

@PeakMotorcycles

8 ай бұрын

Luckily you probably can! Just not right now...

@CargoDriver1435

8 ай бұрын

@@PeakMotorcycles Yeah... look when. Actualy i ride an 25 years old DR650 SE.

I gotta say (as a T7 owner) - I am impressed with how the bike looks under the spotlights. Eager to see a legit , offroad test on this bike.

@PeakMotorcycles

8 ай бұрын

Yup, me too. I'm curious as to how they've remapped the 450 SRS motor for an adventure bike.

Thanks for the vid. Been looking forward to this coming! UK expat here living in the Philippines, so we should be one of the earlyier countries to receive it going by past launches by CFmoto... - already sent them a mail as to how to preorder the 450MT...lets see what they come back with... this is exactly the bike I have been looking for which didn't exist until now!

@PeakMotorcycles

8 ай бұрын

Lucky you!

@crazyosva

8 ай бұрын

ordered mine this morning here, in France. They expecting to have the first ones on April

@JustForFun-zh7cy

8 ай бұрын

looking like end of Feb to Mid-March here... no orders being taken yet though@@crazyosva

Finally the perfect Adv bike!

@PeakMotorcycles

8 ай бұрын

I suspect it's not the perfect motorway cruiser, or 2-up overtaker, but it does tick a lot of boxes, or it looks like it does.

@matthatter93

8 ай бұрын

@@PeakMotorcycles doesn’t have to be perfect for those things but it will allow the ability to do so and still kinda comfortably. It’s hopefully a great all around and also the himalyian 452. I’m curious how they will stack up

they make such good looking bikes and they hold up well here in my country, the only problem is their power to weight ratio on their bikes. they're pretty established now.

@PeakMotorcycles

8 ай бұрын

Yup, but for the pricepoint, I think they are still pretty good.

The abandoned KTM twin engine! The MT 450 looks the business, the seat is quite low, about the same weight as my Transalp 600 ;-) As you say, Andre, the Himalayan 452 and MT 450 are close competitors, around 6,500 Euro. Both attack the established brands (who lean back and have very little innovation). Thanks for your vids, Günter

@PeakMotorcycles

8 ай бұрын

I look forward to trying them. Perhaps I'll end up with one.

@enduromotorradtouren

8 ай бұрын

@@PeakMotorcycles Or the Himi 452?

I've owned over 100 motorcycles and spent almost a decade in the powersports industry, I recently picked up the 450SS and going to pick up the 450NK this weekend, let me tell you, these bikes are solid, we'll see how the reliability is but so far, I'm very impressed with the performance and build quality of the 450ss. I will tell you though, add $1000 to the price of the bikes, all the dealers in my region (southeast US) add an enormous amount of fees to the retail price, still a good value but don't let the retail prices fool you. Great video!

@PeakMotorcycles

8 ай бұрын

Thanks for that. Good to know.

been waiting for the ADV 450 since the SR450 was released, are Brixton there? any news on a UK distributer or the 500 Storr? and thanks re the 675, ill do some digging and comparisons on the build, CF Moto really are listening it seems

@PeakMotorcycles

8 ай бұрын

I've not been round all the halls yet, and I have a feeling Brixton are listed under their parent companies name (which I forget). I'll do the other halls tomorrow, and if they are, I'll do a video. Time permitting.

@barebonesmc

8 ай бұрын

@@PeakMotorcycles nice one, ill be honest and say i dont quite get the branding when they dont sell in the UK, but the Storr looked interesting last year but heard no progress about it since, youre doing great mate, youve got faster editing skills than me lol

6:11 ... I love that pantomime mask on the new 800MT. A big cheeky grin.

@PeakMotorcycles

8 ай бұрын

🤣 Some things you can't unsee!

Nice video.

@PeakMotorcycles

8 ай бұрын

Thanks!

In the US, CFMoto is showing up at lots of dealers. I only have 1 RE dealer 60 miles away, but CFMoto at multiple dealers closer, and with the nice tech and more support I have to wonder how the competition will really stack up. I suspect CFMoto is going to make big inroads in the US and faster than RE.

@PeakMotorcycles

8 ай бұрын

Seems like CFMoto is a winner there then

mamamia that 450mt will sell like a hot cake watta grear job from cfmoto!!

@PeakMotorcycles

8 ай бұрын

I look forward to riding one!

I’m waiting for the 450 Scrambler !! As soon as they make it I’m buying! When this comes to China I’ll be be test riding it for sure, they’ll probably have the 800mm seat option (much better for me). I love the 450NK - killer bike!

@PeakMotorcycles

5 ай бұрын

Sounds awesome. I think this engine will be a great platform.

That 450mt looks fantastic

@PeakMotorcycles

8 ай бұрын

It does. And just a few hours ago, the Himalayan 452 was my favourite...

@Jonathan-L

8 ай бұрын

@@PeakMotorcycles Haha, great minds think alike. A week ago, I fell in love with the Triumph Scrambler 400, then changed my mind to the Royal Enfield 450 (bigger tank and centre stand), but this new CFMoto has it all ... nothing more to spend.

I ordered one 😊

@PeakMotorcycles

5 ай бұрын

Me too. Though my dealer doesn’t know when they’ll be coming, so I asked someone at CFMoto in China and he said they weren’t rolling off the assembly line yet. That was 16th January, but even when they do, it’s probably a 55 day sea transit, plus a week or two at each end for transport to/from the port, loading and customs. My guess is late Q2 perhaps? If I find out any more I’ll share it.

CF have the ability to hurt the big brands starting to see more and more of them out and about Loving the coverage Peaks👌

@metalsadman

8 ай бұрын

they still haven't figured out how to make their bikes lighter, that 450mt looks like it's gonna be near the 200kgs. they're quite reputable where I'm from, hope they sort that out in the future.

@PeakMotorcycles

8 ай бұрын

Thanks.

Cf moto are really coming on leaps and bounds, the mainstream manufacturers should be concerned Andre, great content

@PeakMotorcycles

8 ай бұрын

They are and their stand has been packed all week.

Got to say this looks really appealing, very good spec, attractive bike.

@PeakMotorcycles

8 ай бұрын

It does. I think it will do really well. It'll also depend on how it rides, but I can't wait to find out!

Cfmoto 450mt very beautiful

@PeakMotorcycles

8 ай бұрын

It's a good looking bike.

they look so good. 800NK is my favorite, looks so aggressive but compact.

@PeakMotorcycles

8 ай бұрын

It's essentially CFMoto's take on a KTM 790 Adventure (which CFMoto make for KTM). Nice bike though!

Nice bike. I want one.

@PeakMotorcycles

7 ай бұрын

Me too!

@arvinsantos2002

7 ай бұрын

@@PeakMotorcycles is the size of the bike a little bit smaller than an 800MT or same as the crf300?

💪😎💪

@PeakMotorcycles

8 ай бұрын

Thanks!

That is looking really nice especially at that weight including the crash bars, lights, tubeless wheels and a twin engine. I spotted a USB socket and throttle cables so no ride modes, which aren't really needed on this size bike and less to go wrong. What is the 'phone' about? It's included? I guess for satnav and music?

@PeakMotorcycles

8 ай бұрын

Yup, it's definitely well spec'd. Re. the phone... I meant that the phone bracket, not the phone is included... but yes, I can see how I sort of said the phone was included. It isn't as far as I know, but the phone mount is.

@jimbike666

8 ай бұрын

It's just me being hard of understanding ;) @@PeakMotorcycles

The cfmoto 450 looks very nice.

@PeakMotorcycles

8 ай бұрын

It does, doesn't it.

✅ TQ 👍🏻

@PeakMotorcycles

8 ай бұрын

Welcome 👍

Tomara que venha para o Brasil

@PeakMotorcycles

8 ай бұрын

I hope it does.

Cf moto is making moves...

@PeakMotorcycles

4 ай бұрын

They are.

From YT videos the biggest surprise was kove 800X pro and rally too, 185kg 799cc twin, 275mm ground clearance and long travel suspensions, if only the 400cc was the A2 brother it would be perfect, sadly its not.

@PeakMotorcycles

8 ай бұрын

Yup. That's my next edit...

I hope they offer a low fender in some way for the 450MT, the shape and angles of the front fairing look similar to the Norden 900, would look good with a low fender IMO.

@PeakMotorcycles

8 ай бұрын

I'm sure there will be a host of aftermarket options, though not every bike appeals to everyone.

That 450 MT is really impressive.

@beddccom

8 ай бұрын

imho is too heavy 175 kg dry :(

@user-zn7ji8yu9p

8 ай бұрын

@@beddccom who's lighter? =)

@PeakMotorcycles

8 ай бұрын

I think it's my bike of the show so far. (That or the Kove 800X which I still have to edit...)

@f_busse

8 ай бұрын

@@user-zn7ji8yu9p Voge 300 Rally, Honda CRF300L, Suzuki DR-Z400, ...

Nice specs. The battle between the CFmoto 450 MT vs the Himalayan 452 is set..!!

@PeakMotorcycles

8 ай бұрын

Indeed. It’ll be interesting to see the pricing. Lower than the Honda CB500X/NX500 perhaps?

Mt 450 va llegar muy pronto a México estoy seguro de que seremos de los primeros en tener ese modelo

@PeakMotorcycles

8 ай бұрын

Lucky you!

@carlosdanielvaladezmurriet5881

8 ай бұрын

Se le fueron las patas a honda , parece que nunca nos va a enviar la cb500x está parece una muy buena opción

The 450 MT is very nice!

@PeakMotorcycles

8 ай бұрын

It is!

Very interesting bike 👍 Chinese make really good looking bikes and still to see the reliability..

@PeakMotorcycles

8 ай бұрын

CFMoto continue to improve. I look forward to trying one.

@svaralen

8 ай бұрын

@@PeakMotorcycles Me too 😉, I would like to try the Kove 800 also, the bike is very nice.

Fantastic content Andre. The cfmotos are coming on so well and the quality is up there. Now watching this video I would say I prefer the 450MT over the Himalayan. On the spec sheet you showed, it said the seat height was adjustable down to 800mm. Thats fantastic for us shorter people or for somebody who wants to be sure footed. Just need a dealer that isnt a 160 plus mile round trip to go and try one.

@PeakMotorcycles

8 ай бұрын

I think I'm going that way vs. the Himalayan... If you'd asked me this morning that would have seemed unlikely. I think I'd still like to ride both. A twin has a very different characteristic to a single, and I'm hoping it's not a straight lift and shift from the 450SR as I think that would need some work to keep it in the right working rev range.

@jarjarbinks3193

8 ай бұрын

Looks don't mean much. Chinese motorcycles (like CF Moto, Benelli, Moto Morini, etc) have always had "looks". This is kind of like the KTM-390 Adventure, a road bike under the guise of an adventure bike.

@shiba0737

8 ай бұрын

U can adjust Himalayan's seat to 805mm urself. Plus Himalayan's seat is narrow on the front which makes it better suited for short riders.

The CFMoto 450 MT is a very intriguing bike! I'm looking for substituting my fatty-heavy 1200cc ADV with something moooore light and agile/funny, and this bike seems very close to what I'm looking for. 175 Kg as dry weight is not bad for a twin. I was looking for a single cylinder but... this bike is so nice! 21" front and 18" rear... I'm bought. P.S. The navi-gps mounting bar going up/down with the windscreen is a very smart solution. Bravi!

@PeakMotorcycles

8 ай бұрын

If it's a single you're after, there is always the new Himalayan 452.... Bikes like this are like buses. Nothing for ages then two come along at once!

@giuliobuccini208

8 ай бұрын

@@PeakMotorcycles As I know, the new Himalayan weights almost the same. 196 Kg with 90% of fuel, IIRC. Or I'm wrong?

I just ordered the 450mt im just wondering how you found the height I'm 5'8

@PeakMotorcycles

5 ай бұрын

Hi, I found it fine, but I’m 6’1”. I didn’t pay close enough attention to how high the stand was either. If there’s one at the London motorcycle show, I’ll check the seat height properly and let you know.

Looks good.. very good. I would like a retro style bike though ....about the same cc.. i dont like the new triumphs 400 particularly

@PeakMotorcycles

8 ай бұрын

I expect someone will make one. (Just trying to think who...) AJS have a water cooled 250 on the way I think, though it's still a way off the 450. Thoughts on the Caballero 500? That's the 450 Zongshen engine from the Kove with a SOHC head making less power but also longer service intervals.

@STEALTH1DAN

8 ай бұрын

thank you for the reply... i had a look yes... but it look too "scrambly" for me. for ideaaly would be a bonneville looking bike between 450 to 650cc but not a single cylinder....aesthetically I don't lile single cylinder bikes....@@PeakMotorcycles

450MT come with tubeless spoke, yes, just take my money!!!!

@PeakMotorcycles

8 ай бұрын

That seems to be a popular opinion!

Brilliant stuff. Cf moto are really ramping things up. And they haven't made any fuss unlike royal enfield...

@PeakMotorcycles

8 ай бұрын

🤣. Yup. Though I'd like to think I've made a bit of a fuss about them. I thought they had a great stand last year too, though most of the bikes there didn't get much of an fanfare. The 800 MT was one of the highlights for me, yet most of the news was about the Honda Transalp and the Suzuki V-Strom 800.... Slowly things are changing though.

Is the engine in 450mt same like in 450 srs? 270 degree crank?

@PeakMotorcycles

8 ай бұрын

I think so, yes, but with a different engine map for more torque and less power. The SRS makes it pretty high up in the rev range, which is perfect for a supersports, but I think an adventure bikes needs more low down to be useful.

Meanwhile Kawasaki with its 400 cc twin engine and honda with its 500 cc twin engine had a lot of years to bring something like this but somehow they didnt. cF moto is hitting really hard lately

@PeakMotorcycles

8 ай бұрын

Indeed, but sometimes disruption is good!

MTX supposed to have the new triple engine if I am correct but same tank as the KTM 790. Weird to me. A quick look at their 3 new EV bikes would have been nice too.

@PeakMotorcycles

8 ай бұрын

I'll see if I can check. It's been a busy day today and I ran out of time (as you can probably tell!)

The MTX concept looks like the bees knees, I’d be tempted with that when it’s properly released. Does look like it’s a KTM, only probably comes with all the bits and probably doesn’t have the silly demo mode on it, which could wipe out KTM adventure sales

@PeakMotorcycles

8 ай бұрын

That does seem silly of KTM, especially if people run their bikes in properly. Just when you could try the demo mode it stops working...

How is the seat height adjustable?

@PeakMotorcycles

7 ай бұрын

I’m sorry but I don’t know. Did it say somewhere that it was? If so, I guess either the seat mountings or the suspension.

plz come to korea!

@PeakMotorcycles

5 ай бұрын

I’d love to. Thanks for the invitation… oh you meant the 450MT. Yup. That too 🤣

What is the name of the latest model in the video?(7.38) I really liked it!

@PeakMotorcycles

8 ай бұрын

That's not a production bike, it's a prototype 'Rally' bike. It's not for sale, though may become something in the future.

Is the engine 270° Twin?

@PeakMotorcycles

8 ай бұрын

It is, to give it a v-twin feel from a parallel twin.

If the price is right the 450 looks like a really good proposition. 😊

@PeakMotorcycles

8 ай бұрын

Yes. I think that will be key. Especially alongside the new Royal Enfield Himalayan.

@crazyosva

8 ай бұрын

@@PeakMotorcycles the dealer is thinking the price will be around 7000 eur

@petere-pete5304

8 ай бұрын

The CF Moto said the same to me except he said $7000 USD in my case.

@crazyosva

8 ай бұрын

in France they are talking about 7600/7800 eur

CFMOTO is ploughing a path through the market

@PeakMotorcycles

8 ай бұрын

They are. I think they will do well with this.

I am loving the way a lot of the new stuff looks like it’s designed to be used off road with all the protection. And I love that 450 my CRF300 Rally is nice but it’s rapidly starting to look delicate underpowered and overpriced! - watch out Honda

@PeakMotorcycles

8 ай бұрын

So is mine!

Do you know the curb weight of CFMoto 450 MT 4K?

@PeakMotorcycles

8 ай бұрын

195Kg, something like that?

Please tell us your height and inseam when you sat on the bike

@PeakMotorcycles

8 ай бұрын

I’m 6’1” with 32” inseam all the time, not just when I sit on a bike 😉

@karlfonner7589

8 ай бұрын

@@PeakMotorcycles 😂😂😂

What is the service intervals??

@PeakMotorcycles

7 ай бұрын

Unknown yet I’m afraid.

I'm thinking on buying that 450MT! And that seat height is really good, 800/820! Let´s see the price and when available!

@PeakMotorcycles

8 ай бұрын

I think there will be a queue! (And that's just from the comments on this video)

CF Motos only sells quadricycles in Brazil, unfortunately they should sell their magnificent motorcycles here... it would be a success for sure!

@PeakMotorcycles

8 ай бұрын

Maybe they will? You could try the importer?

@rafaelmaio9630

8 ай бұрын

@@PeakMotorcycles The value would certainly triple, and it wouldn't be worth it, apart from the spare parts for maintenance.. in the end, it's not worth it.. but I'll be rooting for it, because CFMotos has really cool bikes

I will wait for new SYM Adventure Scooters and CF moto MT450. 2024 will be nice year for new motobikes.

@PeakMotorcycles

8 ай бұрын

It will. Great to see that there are some interesting small displacement bikes too for a change.

I have to comment on this one because I have lived in china for a while I left around 4 years ago, and even then china didn’t really have any decent motorcycles, how things can change in what seems a short time, obviously with the help from other major manufacturers such as ktm plus they are listening to what the customer wants. But what I did learn when I was there there’s no shortage of money to invest in plus government help, I just hope for the future of motorbikes CF moto keep their prices realistic and more affordable for more people, think about the future and the younger generation and affordability

@PeakMotorcycles

8 ай бұрын

Thanks for that. Much appreciated

Weird for CFMoto to add TC on their 450 bikes, but isnt available on the 800NK

@PeakMotorcycles

8 ай бұрын

I didn't know that. Thanks.

Great job cf just put a 270 degree crank in a p twin 750 and make bigger models of your 450 lineup.

@PeakMotorcycles

8 ай бұрын

😁

This bike looks better than the Himalayan,, only thing the spec sheet didnt show is ..its a 5 or 6 spd ?

@PeakMotorcycles

8 ай бұрын

The 450 MT is a six speed.

ola boa noite, sou do Brasil estou editando um video sobre o eicma 2023 gostei muito dos seus videos, gostaria de pegar alguns trechos para edição de um vídeo para ser apresentado aqui no Brasil ok, indico e marco seu canal, tudo certinho ok, abraços

@PeakMotorcycles

8 ай бұрын

Hi, if it's attributed and short clips, then I think that's ok. What I tend to ask to be taken down is when someone copies most of a video and just cuts the Peak Motorcycles intro and my piece to camera out of it... without a credit. Good luck with it.

450 cc ADV bikes priced around Himalayan will be a huge hit with a little bit PR in India

@PeakMotorcycles

8 ай бұрын

Just the import taxes then to worry about!

@arvindakshans852

8 ай бұрын

@@PeakMotorcycles wish they had this produced in India

Anyone knows it's dry or curb weight?

@PeakMotorcycles

8 ай бұрын

My error I think. It's dry weight, not total, so it's actually about he same as the Himalayan.

Certainly looks an interesting bike, I bet if it had the Ktm badge on it would be alot of fuss going on about it can't believe the dropped the engine from the KTM lineup.. I think it's what alot of us were asking for 270 degree crank, tubless an a 450 twin, I think this is gonna be the Royal Enfield's biggest problem now it's only £550 so cheaper for the top of the line 450 Himmy to the NX500 with Honda Reliability an a well proven engine, an very close to the 300 Rally price wise that I bought n owned before I let that go for the 1150GSA. I think the interesting thing will be where this lands price wise could really upset the applecart as in the UK the RE is still a nightmare to get parts from RE from what I'm reading on the forum's so nothings changed from when I had mine. Quite a few people with bikes of the road still for a few months. If they dont get a grip of that it could really open the door up for some of these companies.

@PeakMotorcycles

6 ай бұрын

Yup, though UK availability is still a bit of a mystery. I’ve tried calling my local CFMoto dealer a couple of times asking, and each time they’ve said they’ll get back to me and I’ve heard nothing. Maybe it’s not coming to the UK as ‘There’s no market for one’…. I beg to differ. Maybe in 2024?

@adaptableadventurerider

6 ай бұрын

@@PeakMotorcycles yep you think it would be a dead cert for the UK Market certainly the bike we all want. It's a shame the Japanese won't produce a motorcycle like that. At the moment it's looking like a NX500 or a vstrom 650xt for dad an I.

It's a matter of taste but i think the most interesting is the custom version of that 450cc motor; the CL-C. It could be very succesfull in the market if they put it in a low price (5.500 euros?)

@PeakMotorcycles

8 ай бұрын

Such things often are 😉

@crazyosva

8 ай бұрын

7600/7800 in France

I went to the NEC yesterday and I was blown away with the CF Moto 450NK they even gave me a £500 off voucher so now at £4,500 its an absolute bargain

@PeakMotorcycles

8 ай бұрын

Yup, they do seem to have reached that point of both good design and high quality. Great to see that they are still competitive on price. Am eagerly awaiting price and availability of the 450MT…

What is the wet weight of 450 MT?

@PeakMotorcycles

8 ай бұрын

188-190Kg with a full tank and fluids.

@AA-wd2or

8 ай бұрын

First thank you for all these videos and for your kind response on my question!!!