EHX Canyon vs. TC Electronic Flashback

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A comparison of two similar compact multi-delays, the TC Electronic Flashback and the new Electro-Harmonix Canyon. Both of these pack a large multi-delay worth of engines into a very small footprint.
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Unless I state otherwise in the video, everything I test out on here is stuff that I bought myself. There are no paid reviews on this channel and only a couple times have I ever had items sent to me for review. All opinions are my own!
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  • @nazmoking3171
    @nazmoking31715 жыл бұрын

    You helped me understand the dotted eighth mode - thank you! I believe I like the flexibility of the tonal variety of the Canyon in the comparison.

  • @stratowhore9051
    @stratowhore90516 жыл бұрын

    "where they directly overlap" -- good distinction and keeps your vid focused.

  • @bigjanda
    @bigjanda6 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for comparing the two. I have the Flashback and was looking at the Canyon.

  • @mypal1990
    @mypal19907 жыл бұрын

    electro harmonix took the flashback delay and they made it their own. you sold me at the canyon. thanks for the video shootout.

  • @Brettkatze
    @Brettkatze6 жыл бұрын

    very nice video. thanks for comparing them both. So far I have the tc electronics mojomojo OD and ditto Looper at home. Both did not disappoint me. But it looks this time it's going to be my first EHX pedal.

  • @MrRobbwallace
    @MrRobbwallace7 жыл бұрын

    To me the Canyon sounds clearer

  • @coldwar1977

    @coldwar1977

    5 жыл бұрын

    ...or the other way round: Flashback sounds warmer

  • @garrettcz
    @garrettcz6 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for this. Ordering a Canyon now. Sounds fantastic!

  • @noahlangseth5196
    @noahlangseth51967 жыл бұрын

    Was excited to see you compared these two. I've been debating getting a Canyon. Your last pedal board video was one of the first I watched when I was just getting into the pedal game last August. I think I am leaning toward selling my Alexander Pedals Radical delay and picking up the Canyon and Alexander Pedals History Lesson.

  • @LeFeversAudio

    @LeFeversAudio

    7 жыл бұрын

    I've heard very good things about the History Lesson but never had a chance to try one. Alexander Pedals make some intriguing stuff...

  • @mammakujo8987
    @mammakujo89876 жыл бұрын

    Canyon for sure. The shimmer feature adds a nice effect when used on the Orchestra setting on the Mel 9. Adds a whole new dynamic. Clean all the way.

  • @zanewest6420
    @zanewest64205 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the good review of the differences👍🏼

  • @Boba-on2kw
    @Boba-on2kw6 жыл бұрын

    Excellent review. Thanks for posting!

  • @brandonkruse6412
    @brandonkruse64127 жыл бұрын

    Had a Flashback, have a Canyon. Huge upgrade in terms of quality of sound and authenticity of delay.

  • @hearpalhere
    @hearpalhere4 жыл бұрын

    This was a very helpful comparison, thanks!

  • @TomPark1986
    @TomPark19865 жыл бұрын

    I like both. I like TC because of the toneprint you can put on it.

  • @StuntcatTV
    @StuntcatTV4 жыл бұрын

    Good comparison video, very informative, thanks man.

  • @andrewcampbell204
    @andrewcampbell2044 жыл бұрын

    Really nice demo. I wanted to like the TC more than I actually did. I thought the canyon sound richer all the way through. . The TC looks so drab next to the canyon, so this may be influencing me!

  • @pdg887
    @pdg8877 жыл бұрын

    Flashback has stereo, canyon has a better tap tempo, each has a few modes the other doesn't. I say the canyon is the way to go.

  • @nahojprod44
    @nahojprod447 жыл бұрын

    Great comparison video. In my opinion, i think Flashback sounded better, the digital, analog, tape and modulated was more pronounced. Reverse was a clear one for the Canyon. I was expecting that the analog would be much better for the canyon because of their memory man but this shows otherwise. I guess the thing worth buying for the Canyon would be the octave and shimmer mode. thanks for this video man.

  • @LeFeversAudio

    @LeFeversAudio

    7 жыл бұрын

    Thanks! Yeah the Reverse on the Canyon sounds incredible. I thought most of the other ones were pretty close, though I agree that I preferred the Flashback's Analog to the DMM.

  • @andiwilliamwijaya6495
    @andiwilliamwijaya64957 жыл бұрын

    canyon all the way

  • @predicaciones20xx

    @predicaciones20xx

    6 жыл бұрын

    Pero tiene Tap Tempo. Checkmate!. -

  • @JoeBoult
    @JoeBoult7 жыл бұрын

    Looks like my Flashback is getting replaced soonish... Cheers!

  • @bobandy6412

    @bobandy6412

    6 жыл бұрын

    I'd say that the canyon tops the original flashback, but with the added expression control of the 'mash' setting on the flashback 2, flashback 2 wins by a good amount. The tape echo with mash and the crystal effects are amazing on that pedal. plus three tone print settings that include featured toneprints from famous musicians and range from straight-forward analog delay to hellicopter delay and hammond organ tones are so awesome.

  • @MAD___productions466
    @MAD___productions4666 жыл бұрын

    The Canyon is such a beautiful piece of equipment

  • @ampcruz2540
    @ampcruz25403 жыл бұрын

    The flashback sounds way more pronounced and musical ,,, thank you for ur videos bro

  • @boreed5734
    @boreed57343 жыл бұрын

    I have the Canyon, it can be a bit overwhelming, all I really need is some sweet reverb with slight delay and it does that really well. With so many choices to choose from the Canyon wide array of options in such a small package makes it very attractive.

  • @michaeljohnson6201

    @michaeljohnson6201

    11 ай бұрын

    That’s what I’m looking for, how did you get to that with the canyon? This pedal is overwhelming for my needs

  • @boreed5734

    @boreed5734

    11 ай бұрын

    @@michaeljohnson6201 It can be very challenging to get that exact sweet spot you're looking for, you have to finagle it and tweak it ever so slightly and remember where you set it because I found out while moving my pedal board around to different gigs and such or just in transit the knobs can move slightly from your last settings and will have to be adjusted back to your liking, it's also a bummer that you can't save settings once the knobs moves.

  • @gotfiddle
    @gotfiddle6 жыл бұрын

    Always thought my Flashback mini sounded a little muddy. This video proves it. Got a canyon on the way.

  • @davemau5e
    @davemau5e7 жыл бұрын

    Awesome comparison Matt! BTW, I was your buyer of the Canyon.. ;)

  • @LeFeversAudio

    @LeFeversAudio

    7 жыл бұрын

    Haha! That is awesome :-D Hope you dig it. I'm actually glad you bought it so quickly, because editing this video made me have second thoughts about selling it. It sounds pretty dang good on here.

  • @davemau5e

    @davemau5e

    7 жыл бұрын

    When the package came in today, I saw your name and said to myself "wait a minute?? I recognize this name!" .. and obviously from watching your pedalboard demos and messaging back and forth. I am sure going to dig this one, I'll be uploading an unboxing video of it and hopefully get around to doing a sound demo as well.. Glad I was able to snatch it from you quickly..! Thanks again Matt!

  • @alabastersmidge4692
    @alabastersmidge46927 жыл бұрын

    The Canyon sounds so much better.👍

  • @frankrizzo5710

    @frankrizzo5710

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Tom really, really……………………. Good

  • @GabrielVelasco
    @GabrielVelasco6 жыл бұрын

    Digital delay is of course very similar. It would have been nice to see a comparison of the extreme settings, like minimum and maximum delay times. The modulated modes are slightly different. Also. The Canyon adds a touch of reverb and modulates the signal with tremolo (pitch oscillation). The Flashback adds a chorus. You can make the tremolo on the Canyon very extreme. The Canyon reverse has a sensitivity setting which lets you give it a hint as to what part of the riff should be the start of the reverse by playing harder at the beginning of the riff. The DMM (Deluxe Memory Man) emulation on the Canyon also includes a setting to add DMM modulation that you can range from tremolo (pitch oscillation) to chorus just like on the original DMM. So, it's essentially a DMM tremolo/chorus as well. The Canyon tape delay allows you to adjust the "dirtiness" of the heads as well as the wow and flutter (stretching) of the tape. The Canyon has lots of secondary controls that you access by holding down the "Tap" button. The Canyon also allows you to control the tails with an internal switch and allows you to attach an external tap switch which allows you to set the temp with tap without alternating the effect on and off while you do it. With just a little bit of easy tweaking you can use the Canyon delay as a 1. Comb Filter 2. Vibrato 3. Ring Modulator 4. Ducking Reverb with Tails Control 5. POG (Polyphonic Octave Generator) 6. Chorus 7. Pad or Drone I outline how to do all of those in the EHX forums here: www.ehx.com/forums/viewforum/4/

  • @squatchykrislapuma4611
    @squatchykrislapuma46113 ай бұрын

    Ive got a Canyon and love it! Im buying the TC Flashback because its similar but can run on a 9volt battery so it can be usec with a battery powered amp,etc. Its just a bit more portable.

  • @polishbroadcast
    @polishbroadcast7 жыл бұрын

    The TC Flashback *does have 100% wet on reverse* but you have to set "Feedback" to 9 o'clock or less. EH does reverse delay way better: it samples the entire phrases you play and it's dynamic, vs. the Flashback which has a "rolling" sampler so you can get clicks or chunks of phrases.

  • @jasonodea9177

    @jasonodea9177

    7 жыл бұрын

    I have a Flashback and didn't know that about 100% wet, thank you.

  • @brandonkruse6412
    @brandonkruse64127 жыл бұрын

    This was an excellent demo, but didn't demonstrate half of what the Canyon is capable of. My favorite things are the quirky sounds you can get like using the octave delay with the delay completely out. It's a really decent octave impression. The "spooky" delay, as I like to call it is a lot of fun too.

  • @spyderlogan4992
    @spyderlogan49927 жыл бұрын

    EHX has the their modes that are time-tested and proven. Canyon all the way.

  • @Eddyperoguitars
    @Eddyperoguitars7 жыл бұрын

    Canyon does so much more : equal repeats and you can set the number of them with the feedback know, a looper, a very good reverb...

  • @elijahlanning1762
    @elijahlanning17626 жыл бұрын

    Is there a way to make the canyons light not be blinking when you turn it on. I'd like to be able to get no repeats if I want and so far it seems like adjusting the delay knob is the only thing to do this.

  • @stephensolitro
    @stephensolitro7 жыл бұрын

    Great demo. One of the better ones out there. I bought the Canyon, but my color blindness is going to force me to sell it and get the flashback since I can't distinguish the different LED lights that indicate the different tap/divide settings. If you can see the lights, I think it would be a nice feature on stage. Something to think about if you are color blind though.

  • @LeFeversAudio

    @LeFeversAudio

    7 жыл бұрын

    r1ng0k1d Oh man, that's a good point. I didn't even think of that. I'm not color blind but even for me they were a little hard to distinguish from a distance actually...

  • @stratowhore9051

    @stratowhore9051

    6 жыл бұрын

    I don't mean any disrespect (I'm almost "legally blind"), but you can use your ears to hear the differences and your short term memory vis-a-vis a knowledge of what is in the manual.

  • @mokrodrigues4515

    @mokrodrigues4515

    Жыл бұрын

    This about color blindness is very very important, and electro-harmonix unfortunately also use colored modes for the Ocean 11, which is an awesome alternative to tc electronic's hall of fame 2, much like the canyon is to the flashback. Hall of fame 2 also has that digital tone programming thing, which is quite awesome, so I think you'll do fine with any tc electronic option. Cheers and thanks for bringing this to the discussion!

  • @mazukakai
    @mazukakai4 жыл бұрын

    To make the flashback reverse totally wet, you have to turn the feedback all the way down

  • @StuntcatTV
    @StuntcatTV4 жыл бұрын

    I like how the people in the comment section talk themselves into the Canyon so they can buy the flashy looking one.

  • @mrmohantyexperiments
    @mrmohantyexperiments6 жыл бұрын

    Man I was just experimenting with some pedals today and just stumbled upon this one and lost 2 hours at the store.. It was my first time using it and man it's so freakin awesome. Landed up buying it. Btw very good demo man, could you please tell me what scale or chords you used for the demo. It sounded very melodic

  • @LeFeversAudio

    @LeFeversAudio

    6 жыл бұрын

    Thanks! I think I'm just playing a progression over and over of G, Gmaj7, Em7. Basically like a (low to high) xx578x power chord and then moving certain notes around.

  • @andrewpolitano

    @andrewpolitano

    6 жыл бұрын

    Man, that’s just a power chord he’s moving around, easiest thing ever. Experiment once in awhile instead of asking for answers.

  • @lomoholga

    @lomoholga

    3 жыл бұрын

    Andy not everyone is a great musician like yourself Andy

  • @frankrizzo5710

    @frankrizzo5710

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@andrewpolitano oh boy🙄

  • @jamesmarkjackson1979
    @jamesmarkjackson19794 жыл бұрын

    Interesting comparison. Canyon does sound more analogue and musical. But I wonder if you could load Toneprints into the Flashback and get similar sounds?

  • @jato1956
    @jato19567 жыл бұрын

    Mixed results with tap tempo with Flashback. =I'm getting the Canyon.

  • @janglausercomposer
    @janglausercomposer7 жыл бұрын

    Great comparison, nice video! Which one do you like better?

  • @LeFeversAudio

    @LeFeversAudio

    7 жыл бұрын

    Thanks! I slightly prefer the Flashback for sounds - though honestly they're similar - but tap tempo gives the Canyon the edge for practical convenience. So... hard to say?

  • @vasjosue
    @vasjosue7 жыл бұрын

    Que gran comparación, creo que él Canyon es una pasada de pedal

  • @jhandy704
    @jhandy7047 жыл бұрын

    ordered a canyon before seeing this... aww yiss

  • @stevesmith3990
    @stevesmith39907 жыл бұрын

    I'm gonna get one-thanks.

  • @deanryckman7579
    @deanryckman75792 жыл бұрын

    Great video. You look a lot like Jonah Ray. the comedian/new mystery science theater host.

  • @coldwar1977
    @coldwar19777 жыл бұрын

    Yes, the Canyon sounds sweeter in most modes. But as a synth player, I'll have to stick to my Flashback because (1) I really need the stereo ins & outs, (2) it can handle very hot line level signals, and (3) it is highly tweakable thanks to its TonePrint software.

  • @GrootsieTheDog

    @GrootsieTheDog

    5 жыл бұрын

    coldwar1977 As a synth user, I chose the canyon for its warmth on the tape Delay and tap tempo. Also, I found performing with the canyon feels like I have another mini synth with knobs.

  • @nashitou5
    @nashitou57 жыл бұрын

    i have , line 6 dd4, boss dd7, and now i added my canyon all together on my pedalboard, and its sick! , flashback never surprise me and never be rise to the challenge

  • @savanaviolenta

    @savanaviolenta

    7 жыл бұрын

    Because it's just flashback,I got me the flashback Triple Delay and Alter Egi X4 that's combining four delays and I can tell you they blow the canyon out of the water every day man .

  • @Guitars-N-Guns

    @Guitars-N-Guns

    7 жыл бұрын

    I think you missed his point.

  • @vitnemec8365
    @vitnemec83656 жыл бұрын

    And the winner is... Boss DD-7!! I like both of these, but neither made me even consider a change of my old Boss. If I was in a market for compact delay, I’d choose Canyon. There is something I don’t like about TC stuff.

  • @adamellison2497
    @adamellison24975 жыл бұрын

    Anyone know how the Line 6 Echoe Park fares against the Canyon?

  • @akxeman
    @akxeman5 ай бұрын

    Excellent demo. Thanks for showing the tap tempo diff. Canyon seems far superior IMHO.

  • @m4thovanie
    @m4thovanie2 жыл бұрын

    For canyon, is there any similarities with the Boss Tera Echo?

  • @StamateTudorGuitar
    @StamateTudorGuitar3 жыл бұрын

    1:43 EHX 2:11 TC 2:55 TC 3:24 EHX 4:11 EHX 4:37 TC

  • @joelizquierdo
    @joelizquierdo7 жыл бұрын

    I'm using a MXR classic distortion going into the Canyon then deluxe memory man into a holy grail reverb and finally a triple flashback delay split into two amps in stereo. It's awesome. I use the canyon for other duties other than as a delay.

  • @stratowhore9051

    @stratowhore9051

    6 жыл бұрын

    WOW! have you got pictures posted anywhere?

  • @jotjot0526
    @jotjot05265 жыл бұрын

    Matt does the canyon pedal has a click sound when you are turning it on?? Because my dosent click when turning it on. Help please thank you.

  • @LeFeversAudio

    @LeFeversAudio

    5 жыл бұрын

    I seem to remember it being a soft switch, that didn't make a hard click, but it's been a while since I had it. I prefer those soft switches, the click sound can be really distracting at some gigs.

  • @derekshere
    @derekshere7 жыл бұрын

    I know it's new to you, but which would you recommend over the other for a first delay pedal? And many thanks for the excellent videos!

  • @dereksmith7853

    @dereksmith7853

    7 жыл бұрын

    Derek Bradford .

  • @LeFeversAudio

    @LeFeversAudio

    7 жыл бұрын

    Thanks! Honestly - hard to say. They sound pretty similar, I think I like the Flashback just a little more... but having easy tap tempo is almost a deal breaker for me these days and it might be worth choosing the Canyon just for that. I also don't go into the other modes in this video but the Canyon makes some crazy noises - EHX is a little more on the psychedelic side - whereas every mode on the Flashback is tasteful and useable in my opinion.

  • @BrendanBoyd

    @BrendanBoyd

    7 жыл бұрын

    HI Matt. Nice clip. I tried the Canyon and liked it, but I have the Flashback already and your video has inspired me to experiment a bit more with it. The Flashback 2 with the expression button is an interesting development. All the best - cheers

  • @alexandercook9614
    @alexandercook96143 жыл бұрын

    EHX Canyons wins hands down. The Crystal Shimmer feature from the Canyon Delay is a game changer.

  • @oscarjgarcia3409
    @oscarjgarcia34097 жыл бұрын

    flashback always # 1 !

  • @JohnMasino
    @JohnMasino6 жыл бұрын

    I like the EH Canyon!

  • @Beermaker2000
    @Beermaker20007 жыл бұрын

    Reverse for the EHX is so much better. The TC sounds like crap in that mode IMO.

  • @Beermaker2000

    @Beermaker2000

    7 жыл бұрын

    That said, the TC tape delay sounds better than the EHX.

  • @noquarter1983

    @noquarter1983

    6 жыл бұрын

    I found the EHX much smoother and pleasant

  • @rachtob1349
    @rachtob13497 жыл бұрын

    Hey Matt, on your pedalboard you put the strymon blue sky. Is it hard to use in a live setting? I'm not able to bend down to adjust settings. Can I do it with my foot. I also play at church

  • @LeFeversAudio

    @LeFeversAudio

    7 жыл бұрын

    No, it's easy, or at least I think so. You can save one preset and then dial in a second sound, so right there you can jump back and forth between two settings. If you need to actually adjust the setting you're on in real time, the knobs for Mix and Decay Time are big enough to move with your foot, I wouldn't try and move the smaller knobs around that way but I've changed mix level and stuff by just nudging it.

  • @rachtob1349

    @rachtob1349

    7 жыл бұрын

    Thanks! Might get it:)) great channel by the way

  • @jandrewnelson288
    @jandrewnelson2885 жыл бұрын

    if you used both, could you use the canyon's tap tempo to drive the Flashback?

  • @LeFeversAudio

    @LeFeversAudio

    5 жыл бұрын

    That would be awesome, but I doubt the Canyon can output tap tempo info so I don't know how you'd get it there.

  • @LoveforSpeeed
    @LoveforSpeeed5 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the video, really appreciate the time that went into it :) just wondering, how does the Canyon's delay sounds compare to the DD7/DD20?

  • @LeFeversAudio

    @LeFeversAudio

    5 жыл бұрын

    I feel like I preferred the DD-20, but take that with a grain of salt because I used the DD-20 for a year or two and only owned the Canyon for a few days. First impressions were I liked the Boss better, though.

  • @LoveforSpeeed

    @LoveforSpeeed

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@LeFeversAudio really appreciate the reply man. Thanks for putting up all this content :)

  • @pdg887
    @pdg8877 жыл бұрын

    You have to turn the feedback knob all the way down on the flashback reverse mode to get 100% wet. Which means there will be no repeats, only full wet with whatever amount of delay in playback and volume you dial in. It's really stupid, level should control the full wet function (though it's possible to create such a setting with their TonePrint editor, fwiw)

  • @LeFeversAudio

    @LeFeversAudio

    7 жыл бұрын

    pdg887 ahhh, gotcha. Yeah that's an odd setup.

  • @serchromo8326
    @serchromo83266 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the demo! Could you use a standard 9v power supply instead of the electro harmonix power supply? Thanks

  • @LeFeversAudio

    @LeFeversAudio

    6 жыл бұрын

    Yes, the Canyon draws 150mA, so as long as the power supply provides more than that (most separate power supplies do) it'd be fine.

  • @serchromo8326

    @serchromo8326

    6 жыл бұрын

    Thanks

  • @LarryMar
    @LarryMar4 жыл бұрын

    Great review but your tone is so muddy that I can't review how the trebles and basses sound with the delays.

  • @VenomRaven
    @VenomRaven6 жыл бұрын

    Nice video

  • @junskim5150
    @junskim51507 жыл бұрын

    Great video! Which one would you recommend for the classic U2 sound??

  • @LeFeversAudio

    @LeFeversAudio

    7 жыл бұрын

    I'm not super familiar with U2 per se - beyond just the handful of songs that everyone knows - but The Edge popularized that dotted eighth thing, which both pedals do exceedingly well. I tried to google what specific delay he uses and it looks like he's done Memory Man on older stuff (which the Canyon has) and TC 2290s on newer stuff (which the Flashback has) so I guess it's a dead tie. ;)

  • @junskim5150

    @junskim5150

    7 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the response! Keep up the great work :)

  • @davidcheon2582

    @davidcheon2582

    7 жыл бұрын

    Jun S Kim the canyon has a tap tempo function on it which makes the U2 thing even easier.

  • @antonykevin3027

    @antonykevin3027

    6 жыл бұрын

    Jun S Kim Vox Delaylab was one pedal that was built working with Edge. Now it has been upgraded as the Korg SDD 3000 which has been the best U2 sounding pedal.

  • @therealjimmybuffett
    @therealjimmybuffett7 жыл бұрын

    Does anyone know how much loop time the Canyon gives? I'm looking for a good looper pedal and am trying to decide between the Ditto or the Canyon. Ditto has 5 min of loop and is easy to use but if the Canyon loops well too then I can get a great sounding delay pedal along with being able to loop.

  • @LeFeversAudio

    @LeFeversAudio

    7 жыл бұрын

    It's 62 seconds for the Canyon... not sure if that works for you or not. I've never found Looper modes on delay pedals very useful compared to a standalone looper, myself. The Ditto is pretty great.

  • @therealjimmybuffett

    @therealjimmybuffett

    7 жыл бұрын

    Matt LeFevers that's very informational. Thank you!

  • @stratowhore9051

    @stratowhore9051

    6 жыл бұрын

    download the manual from any number of soucres, starting with manufacturer's website.

  • @amyrogers7628
    @amyrogers76286 жыл бұрын

    What's with the hidden cut at 6:10? The Flashback shifts to the right through a cross-dissolve.

  • @LeFeversAudio

    @LeFeversAudio

    6 жыл бұрын

    Ha, I"m sure I played something dumb or realized I had a setting wrong and had to edit.

  • @christophersoren1768

    @christophersoren1768

    4 жыл бұрын

    I barely saw it when looking for it. Good eye!

  • @louismvega
    @louismvega5 жыл бұрын

    I have both. Oooh weeee .

  • @lostgroovemusic8494
    @lostgroovemusic84943 жыл бұрын

    Which one would you pick out of the two?

  • @LeFeversAudio

    @LeFeversAudio

    3 жыл бұрын

    Personally I love the Flashback. One of my favorite delay pedals. I want to love EHX but they have such a fondness for putting trippy, psychedelic sounds into things that it's a bit of a love/hate thing.

  • @ShaggtyDoo
    @ShaggtyDoo3 жыл бұрын

    100% Effects level should always be 100% wet. Does Canyon do this with the delay settings? The tc doesn't.

  • @mrBassArte
    @mrBassArte6 жыл бұрын

    Hi, a couple of questions about secondary knobs function on Canyon delay. For example... When i turn knobs in secondary mode, does this changed settings remain in the standard mode when i return to it or just stay in that secondary mode? I ask this because of chance to ruin or screw up default settings in standard mode with messing in secondary, without memory how it was before messing with controls in secondary mode. Further more, does the pedal memorize the knob position of the settings in the secondary mode when you return to it later, or behave in „one time only“ manner? To be more specific, when turn knobs in some way in the secondary mode, then return to normal, turn the knobs in a different position, then return to secondary, the sound remains like I leave it before returning to normal mode or apply automatically the new position of knobs, which I change in mean time, to sound? Both questions are about same thing with different approach. And one more thing ... Does pedal change, in any way, original, dry sound of an instrument when engaged? I mean both on first stroke (first note or chord than you strike) and delayed, repeated one? Or there are no changes in continuity, tone of sound, delayed or not? Apologize for so mush data and questioning. Please help. Thx in advance!

  • @LeFeversAudio

    @LeFeversAudio

    6 жыл бұрын

    Hi - I'm sorry to say, I'm no Canyon expert. I basically owned this one long enough to make this video with it, then sold it again. From what I read in the manual, the pedal 'remembers' where the primary knobs were before you went into secondary mode, so once you leave secondary mode, unless you touch the knobs again, they stay where they were before. Likewise, it remembers your secondary mode settings even if you switch delay types or turn the pedal off, I'm pretty sure. Hope that helps! I didn't actually spend all that much time with this pedal, but I have read the manual and that's what it seemed to say.

  • @craigrichardellioott
    @craigrichardellioott7 жыл бұрын

    I have botH on my board. Why not?

  • @LeFeversAudio

    @LeFeversAudio

    7 жыл бұрын

    Heck yeah.

  • @jake82920

    @jake82920

    7 жыл бұрын

    Of the two, which do you prefer over the other?

  • @TheInsanityofGab
    @TheInsanityofGab7 жыл бұрын

    you didn't even get in to the secondary knob settings which add a significant amount of versatility to the canyon

  • @LeFeversAudio

    @LeFeversAudio

    7 жыл бұрын

    True. The secondary knob interface was kind of frustrating to get in and out of so I didn't do much with it besides customize the tape delay a bit, but there's definitely a lot there.

  • @arthurveldhoen3932
    @arthurveldhoen39325 жыл бұрын

    Winner for analog is the Canyon DMM, tape is the Flashback. The rest is not important to me.

  • @fender4brad
    @fender4brad6 жыл бұрын

    Both sound good, seems the Canyon changes the tone of the guitar more. I normally play a bright guitar, not sure this pedal would work for me.

  • @nicksburson1
    @nicksburson16 жыл бұрын

    For me nearly every Ehx pedal has this weird harsh upper frequency the canyon has it but not too bad. Still don't think ill be trading my flashback in.

  • @nicksburson1

    @nicksburson1

    6 жыл бұрын

    I do think the anloge mode on the canyon was way better though.

  • @coldwar1977

    @coldwar1977

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@nicksburson1 it sounds good, but it doesn't sound like analog to me

  • @Dan_is_a_liar
    @Dan_is_a_liar4 жыл бұрын

    TC is true bypass, surprised nobody has pointed that out

  • @jimabrahams3576
    @jimabrahams35764 жыл бұрын

    The Flashback reverse does go 100%, if you use the “Mash” function and hold the switch down while playing. I have found that to be extremely useful live, and allows more sonic options, in combination with the controls later, than The Canyon. Also, the Flashback allows you to download additional presets via your phone, which is pretty cool.

  • @LeFeversAudio

    @LeFeversAudio

    4 жыл бұрын

    Nice! I had the Flashback 1 here, which doesn't have the Mash function. That sounds interesting.

  • @jimabrahams3576

    @jimabrahams3576

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yep - it’s worth checking - almost all of the settings have some kind of touch - sensitive mash function, that makes the switch function as an expression pedal. For instance, in the tape setting, it ramps the speed up, & into self-oscillation, and down as you release it, pretty cool. Can’t lose with either pedal!

  • @gotfiddle
    @gotfiddle6 жыл бұрын

    Can you set the tap on the canyon when the pedal is off?

  • @LeFeversAudio

    @LeFeversAudio

    6 жыл бұрын

    I think technically with each tap you're turning the pedal on and off, so the trick is to make sure that your very last tap ends with it being on. So if you'd rather it stay off, you could end with an 'off' tap. Now with external tap, I'm not sure. I'll bet you could tap in on an external tap button while it's off, most pedals allow that.

  • @StevenWindham

    @StevenWindham

    6 жыл бұрын

    change it from bypass to buffer then try it so it wont cut it out on and off

  • @VenomRaven
    @VenomRaven6 жыл бұрын

    Which do you find yourself using more?

  • @LeFeversAudio

    @LeFeversAudio

    6 жыл бұрын

    I've actually moved on to a Source Audio Nemesis for most of my delay stuff, but between these two I much preferred the Flashback. I might not have spent enough time with the Canyon to make a totally fair comparison but i always thought the Flashback sounded really great.

  • @davidbuzzin426
    @davidbuzzin4267 жыл бұрын

    CANYON wins : chimey/ ring natural tone ( not stiff or constipated)

  • @EC66OK
    @EC66OK7 жыл бұрын

    The Canyon almost seemed to add a bit of compression, resulting in a very big and expansive tone. The Flashback is typically TC Electronics pristine, and the decay seemed more 'natural.' Overall, I think my ears preferred the Canyon, but perhaps running both set to slightly different delay times would be ideal.

  • @rwaggs81
    @rwaggs814 жыл бұрын

    So the flashback doesn't even have a tap in? That's a pretty big distinction.

  • @LeFeversAudio

    @LeFeversAudio

    4 жыл бұрын

    rwaggs81 - yeah, the new Flashback 2’s have it now but it was a pretty glaring omission from the original.

  • @LiveToPlayGuitar
    @LiveToPlayGuitar6 жыл бұрын

    EHX Canyon all the way...already sold my Flashback and have not missed it...

  • @savanaviolenta

    @savanaviolenta

    5 жыл бұрын

    And then they put out a stereo version ,stereo outs I mean of Grand Canyon.Did you sell the Canyon to get the Grand?

  • @scottsowerby388
    @scottsowerby3886 жыл бұрын

    Canyon? But flashback 2 has expression built it??

  • @wahdefuzz
    @wahdefuzz7 жыл бұрын

    both :) just put both on your board!

  • @joshperryman7817
    @joshperryman78177 жыл бұрын

    Canyon by a mile

  • @predicaciones20xx

    @predicaciones20xx

    6 жыл бұрын

    Pero tiene Tap Tempo. Checkmate!. -

  • @shawatson6036
    @shawatson60366 жыл бұрын

    I had a Canyon, then I sold it. I got up enough money to buy the Flashback 2 a couple of weeks ago. I can't get to the store fast enough to take back this Flashback 2 and get another Canyon. CANYON BY A MILE

  • @ampcruz2540

    @ampcruz2540

    3 жыл бұрын

    I bought a canyon and ran all the way back to GC and just paid them to take it back , they advised that I try and buy a flashback

  • @GuitarsAndSynths
    @GuitarsAndSynths6 жыл бұрын

    I like both but if could only get one the Canyon wins easily!

  • @zofo264
    @zofo2643 жыл бұрын

    I want to play U2 songs. Which of these is the best for that sound?

  • @matthewlefeversmusic

    @matthewlefeversmusic

    3 жыл бұрын

    Personally I use the Flashback for that sort of thing (though I don't know any U2 songs) but either could do it.

  • @zofo264

    @zofo264

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@matthewlefeversmusic Thanks!

  • @nicholasse7enfold
    @nicholasse7enfold7 жыл бұрын

    At the moment, nothing comes close to the Canyon...

  • @noodlingnoob7201

    @noodlingnoob7201

    4 жыл бұрын

    Does anything come closer to it now? Should I get it or the grand canyon? I feel grand Canyon is a bit pricey and I can get a solid loop pedal separately

  • @alienboy2783

    @alienboy2783

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@noodlingnoob7201 DigiTech Obscura

  • @MeneTekelUpharsin
    @MeneTekelUpharsin Жыл бұрын

    EHX Canyon or Zoom MS-70CDR?

  • @LeFeversAudio

    @LeFeversAudio

    Жыл бұрын

    I haven’t used the Zoom; though I’ve definitely thought about checking it out. I have one friend I really respect who likes it.

  • @Jacob_Mundy
    @Jacob_Mundy7 жыл бұрын

    If you only had one foot pedal and it was a delay then MAYBE the Canyon has a slight edge because of the slightly brighter tone and an almost reverb effect. If you have multiple pedals including a reverb, TC all the way. But even then, in my experience with the Flashback I have gotten way better tone from it than what I am hearing from it in this video both with and without other effect pedals. I would be interested to see what his guitar settings and amp settings are. For whatever reason, the Flashback is giving some distortion. It shouldn't. This wasn't the best representation of the Flashback. So, the Flashback still wins in my opinion. Better company. Better pedal. Great review though!

  • @coldwar1977

    @coldwar1977

    5 жыл бұрын

    Exactly. In this vid, the TC wasn't dialed in properly most of the time (eg. not enough repeats).

  • @AngelarmSpartan777
    @AngelarmSpartan7776 жыл бұрын

    What was the song you were playing? It sounds familiar, I just can't place the name. Hillsong, Elevation, Jesus Culture? BTW - the EHX pedal sounds great.

  • @LeFeversAudio

    @LeFeversAudio

    6 жыл бұрын

    It's not anything, just some kind of E, Emaj7, C# m7 thing. I usually make up random stuff to play in videos (or use riffs from my own songs) so that I don't risk running afoul of somebody else's copyright.

  • @mrsockmonkey1969

    @mrsockmonkey1969

    6 жыл бұрын

    It’s every worship song chord progression you’ve ever heard lol.

  • @Leo-ux3xp
    @Leo-ux3xp7 жыл бұрын

    Canyon all the way

  • @GuitarsAndSynths
    @GuitarsAndSynths6 жыл бұрын

    Canyon WAY better does more and better sound too

  • @nirvilchigs7871
    @nirvilchigs78714 жыл бұрын

    Why such a compressed 'dry' sound?

  • @LeFeversAudio

    @LeFeversAudio

    4 жыл бұрын

    Apparently for some reason I was using a Henretta Orange Whip compressor on this video... I don't think I ever recorded with that one before or since so I'm not sure why I used it here, honestly. Haha.

  • @AllenPinchloaf
    @AllenPinchloaf7 жыл бұрын

    Are both silent as far as noise floor is concerned?

  • @LeFeversAudio

    @LeFeversAudio

    7 жыл бұрын

    They seemed to be, although I didn't try really cranking the gain to detect any low level noise.

  • @RepublicAllegiance
    @RepublicAllegiance5 жыл бұрын

    Can they both be battery powered?

  • @LeFeversAudio

    @LeFeversAudio

    5 жыл бұрын

    The Flashback can be battery powered, I don't think the Canyon can.

  • @RepublicAllegiance

    @RepublicAllegiance

    5 жыл бұрын

    Matt LeFevers much appreciated

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