Dear Adrian, I‘m glad you missed last weeks mail call due to workload and no unfortunate events. Marvelous video as always. You pronounced „Kuhflecken“ absolutely correct! Hope you‘ve a chance to visit Gernany in the future again! Stay safe and keep up the good work.

"How long did it take you to build the floppy controller?" "Oh, about 300mL of Lemon & Paeroa"

I actually like the short-ish candy reviews interleaved with the retro tech! Makes for a nice mix - I’m one of those who wouldn’t watch a pure candy-video, but still enjoy the segments a lot.

@dae6

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, maybe just something like a candy(or two) of the day/week added on would work well.

Thanks Adrian. Great content!! Love the way you actually use the donations in the same video. No other tech channel does this. Fantastic.

Awesome that you actually use the stuff you are sent. Instead of doing the one of showing it and never again using or revisiting it. Thanks for the all the awesome content

Roll that mat back up in the opposite way it came and leave it overnight. It should lay more flat afterward.

@CheshireNoir

3 жыл бұрын

Also heat helps. If you have a nice hot day, just put it outside between a couple of sheets of ply.

What I've been eagerly waiting for is someone making a floppy controller for the PCIe bus. So much neat hardware is still being created for vintage computer, but nobody does anything to make floppies (especially the 5.25 variety) work on my modern desktop. Well, I guess it is much more difficult to develop something for PCIe than it is for ISA.

@joe--cool

2 жыл бұрын

UEFI no longer has 5.25" floppy support. So without BIOS support a PCIe card would need its own drivers. Your best bet might be a USB floppy controller. Device Side makes one you can plug a 5.25" floppy drive into (read-only). Drivers works fine on Linux, don't know about newer Windowses. Or a KryoFlux which can read and write almost anything from 3" to 8" that's a floppy. It's 100EUR+ however.

I feel sorry for anyone who is crazy enough to mail themselves to Adrian with his mail backlog lol. "In this box we have a skeleton someone sent from Germany" :D

Get a proper earth connector that plugs I to the socket. They include a resistor to prevent yourself putting your body between high voltage directly to earth.

@MarianoLu

3 жыл бұрын

The EDS Matt’s already have the proper resistance so the banana plug should go directly to earths

@darkwinter6028

3 жыл бұрын

@@MarianoLu Some do, some don’t (especially if it’s an “economy” model). Checking with your multimeter is a good idea. It’s also not a problem to double up on them… anything under 10meg to ground will work just fine and still be reasonably quick at dissipating charges.

As an Aussie, I can confirm the cans around my desk are all 375ml. I cannot however confirm the number of cans, as I really need to clean up.

@pyrotempestwing

3 жыл бұрын

Definitely more than my Dr Pepper can sitting next to me (355 ml). (American btw). I’m kinda jealous. But IIRC, things tend to be more expensive in Australia compared to here, too. (Maybe not everything, but a lot of things.)

@CanuckGod

3 жыл бұрын

@@pyrotempestwing Yeah, I'm not sure where Adrian came up with that 335 mL thing... most regular-sized cans of soda here in Canada or in the US are 355 mL (or 12 fluid ounces), but I guess the Aussies just like giving their people more... 😂

@pyrotempestwing

3 жыл бұрын

@@CanuckGod It was probably an honest mistake. Him misremembering after not having looked in a while. Totally understandable.

@CanuckGod

3 жыл бұрын

@@pyrotempestwing I'm sure that was the case as well.

@kaitlyn__L

2 жыл бұрын

@@CanuckGod maybe just misspoke 355 as 335 while thinking 355

Why not mix it when you get a chance? Take the datasette loading times, for example - As it loads in the background, you could add a 3-4 minute taste-test, giving all those that never experienced the real loading times a 'taste' of just how slow it is. You could always add a jump mark to skip through it and see if people keep watching. I, for one, loved your taste-test and was looking forward to more x.x

Yum, Lemon & Paeroa, (pronounced pie-rower), or L&P for short. Very refreshing.

@phatputer

3 жыл бұрын

Goes down well on a Friday night with a battered hotdog, fish and scoop of chips...

@frankowalker4662

3 жыл бұрын

@@phatputer Oh stop it, You're making me hungry. :)

@mark77193

3 жыл бұрын

Now I want to go and buy some. Paeroa itself is about a half hour drive from me; less than 2 minutes to the shops to get L&P...

My anti-static matt mostly flattened in a couple of days, but the edges stayed up a little so I ended up using removable double-sided poster tape to hold it down, and that's worked a treat. (I used the Scotch kind, it was the thinnest.)

@eduardolarrymarinsilva76

3 жыл бұрын

You could have applied heat from a hair drier while curling it on the opposite direction. Indeed, Adrian could have rolled it up on the opposite direction to make it less bad.

@solarbirdyz

3 жыл бұрын

@@eduardolarrymarinsilva76 I have a hot air rework station and got it as hot as I was willing to while doing that, and still couldn't get the last little bit of lippage to flatten. That's when I went to the tape.

@iroll

3 жыл бұрын

@@eduardolarrymarinsilva76 I was going to say the same thing - @Solarbird, if you live somewhere with a lot of "solar energy" (like I have in Phoenix), try laying it down outside on a patio table or something else flat that is in the sun. I've used this method many times, works great especially if you can give it all afternoon.

@darkwinter6028

3 жыл бұрын

Same here on laying it out in the sun. The silicone ones lay out flat by themselves, but the vinyl ones need heat treatment to stay flat.

2:36 Those $100 disks in 1984 would cost $261 today. Those are some expensive Basic programs.

Great mail call with great things! Now You've got an ESD mat, finally, because some viewer ordered it. Nice. 😊 That Commodore tape deck looks like new! Very cool for collection!

@TheJeremyHolloway

3 жыл бұрын

I remember print ads for ESD mats for computers in the various computer mags going all the way into the 16-bit era. And anti-static spray cans. And I'm not talking about ESD mats for those who open the cases and do upgrades and maintenance [those are usually green]; I mean blue aesthetically pleasing ESD mats that were meant for the computers to sit atop of at all times...

I would curl it back up the other way and put it back in the box. That should make it go flat much faster.

New format is fantastic !!! Thanks !! And thanks for kicking off candy's 😊

Excellent video, I love your channel. Thank you very much for sharing! I know it involves many hours of work. Greetings from Argentina.

35:27: The second, near-illegible word on the ITARI cracktro screen is TALENT, for anyone wondering.

19:42 - looks like something rolled down your palm when you tapped the card!!! Right after that you were talking about SMD components, take a really close look, it might have been a component that was not soldered!

@fumthings

3 жыл бұрын

i didnt see anything, maybe light/dark visible through the pcb holes and between Adrian's fingers (behind)

@Dukefazon

3 жыл бұрын

@@fumthings you can see it a couple of seconds later too, it must be some debris, doesn't look like an important component but at first I thought it was, then he talked about SMDs, I just connected the two.

Adrian you do whatever suits you. Keep up the good work.

Paeroa, Pie-row-ah is the town where the spring water was originally sourced for that drink. The spring has long since dried up.

11:55 I'm sitting at an Office Depot MDF/laminate desk that my husband got for me for Christmas, 1998. The top surface laminate could do with being replaced, but it's otherwise fine. =D

Keep up the great work Adrian! Now I didn't post first, as I decided to watch the video to enjoy it first before making a comment.

That Whittaker's chocolate is the best! The Paeroa on the can of soda is pronounced "Pie Roar"

When I bought my C64 in 1985 it came with the 1531 black data recorder (designed for the Plus/4). Due to poor sales of the Plus/4, Commodore bundled these with 64's and a dongle to make it work. This got rid of the surplus stock of the 1531.

@Adrian's Digital Basement I like the new mail call format better than the old two segment version, After you get through the backlog maybe keep the new format you May find you have more time for other things

Cool video. And yes i liked the candy review :)

Hi there from a freezing cold Winter morning here in New Zealand. (For you Northern Hemisphere dwellers, we have Summer at Christmas/New Year). Glad you liked our chocolate and soft drink.

Very enjoyable video Adrian

I had a Commodore power supply that looked identical to the one in this video for the plus/4 but it had a 4 pin round plug on the end and was for the Commodore Amiga CD32. Paeroa (Pie Row Ah) [A Maori word so the vowels have a slight different sound to English vowels] is a small town in New Zealand that was made famous here by its mineral spring water and the L&P drink was originally created in 1907. These days the L&P brand is owned by the Coca-Cola company and the mineral water originally drawn from a well in Paeroa was replaced by a blend of minerals to match that of the original spring water that are put in the L&P syrup and added to the standard carbonated water used at their bottling plant or to freshly carbonated water in drink machines at some fast food outlets here in NZ.

I remember the Commodore 1084 monitor power switch flakiness. When I was younger my brothers and I would use the display models of the C128 & 1084 monitor in K-Mart and I remember sometimes turning it on myself and it being so touchy from use where I'd have to try a couple of times to get it to turn on properly. Nice to see there are newer replacements for that dodgy switch.

14:13 Now Adrian will be bombarded with pear shaped objects.

I loved the candy review!!

Whoa! "They could of had GEOS in ROM." Has anyone by chance burned GEOS ROMs for this computer? That would spike my interest.

@user-yr1uq1qe6y

3 жыл бұрын

With the video chip in this thing I don’t think GEOS was possible. Edit: I was wrong….it supported hi res graphics. The name of the chip is sure misleading!

@SteveGuidi

3 жыл бұрын

There is a GEOS port for the Plus/4 though I don't think it supports the full 128 colors. That said, I you could probably get it on a custom cartridge and run it from there.

@Nibb31

2 ай бұрын

I believe GEOS came out in 1985, a year after the Plus/4 was introduced.

The Paeroa in the L&P is the name of the town where it was invented. They used mineral water from a spring near the town, so it was the "flavour of Paeroa" so to speak. It's owned by Coca Cola now, so they use whatever old mineral water they have for what it's worth.

Ah, so this is the video the mat was unboxed in! Also the ingredients in that pear&honey chocolate bar are so much better than the garbage we have in the US.

Hello from Germany. :) Considering we are a small country it seems many of us interested in electronic and computers, even Dave Jones from EEV Blog often mentioned Germans are the Top viewers.

The only trouble with the cassette port adapters that use audio through a headphone Jack is they won’t work with some tape games like Turrican which starts and stops the tape at various intervals as if these 'pauses' are missing the game won’t load. In the UK i would say the majority of us used tape and I enjoy using the tapes or a Tapuino as I like the loading portion with the music and pictures.

Oh, happy Wednesday!

I was like "NOOO" when you said "RUN/STOP" after it found the header. :D

@AndrasMihalyi

3 жыл бұрын

space or C< key 😁

Great review nice shirt 🙃

Yay! i love Adrian's videos while drunk lol

29:30 - I'm pretty sure that tape deck is the same as the C64 one but with a different connector. In this case Commodore did actually have a reason for changing the connector and that was because the plus/4 machine was smaller than the C64 and there wasn't enough real estate on the back to fit the standard C64 connector. They did the same thing with the joystick for the same reason.

@TheJeremyHolloway

3 жыл бұрын

You mean it wasn't so they could profit off of selling DB9 adapters in order to use [Atari] standard joysticks with it?

@another3997

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheJeremyHolloway Did CBM even sell adaptors? There wasn't an 'industry standard' jotstick interface back then, although Atari was probably the closest thing to one. All companies exist to make money, so Atari were as bad as CBM for proprietary interfaces.

woohoo South Africa got a mentioned, guess you were thinking of "Pretoria"?. Cheers from Cape Town.

It's L and P, Lemon and Pie-roa (Paeroa) a small town where the drink was invented on the east coast of North island. Coca cola own it now so it's not made there any more. JD's stuff is excellent quality, I have some of it myself and have featured on my channel. Great to have such talent here in NZ!

I remember Frankie Goes To Hollywood on tape. It took forever to load, at least it gave you a loading screen, and then in the last few minutes started playing the intro tune without warning. Scared the living daylights out of me every single time. Thunderbirds did the same with a voice PCM sample out of nowhere! Also, C16 datasette is the most stylish.

@6581punk

3 жыл бұрын

Which format did that happen on? I think that probably happened on the C64. I have a friend who collects FGTH stuff and he had to get the game because of the audio tape with a live version of Relax on it.

@phelyan

3 жыл бұрын

@@6581punk Yeah, it was the C64. I really want to replay that game, I remember nothing about it other than repeatedly switching some lights on and off.

No membrane keyboard on the plus/4. It uses a rubber type spring key which has carbon on the underside of the plunger and a pcb board with contacts on, similar to a console controller pad.

My first 8 bit computer was a TRS-80 model 1 with the 16K and advanced basic. I wore out the cassette player that came with that machine. It was a TRS branded cassette deck, but it was not bad quality, i just used the ever living carp out of it!

You're a fan of dark chocolate so I like your channel even more now.

@mikesilva3868

3 жыл бұрын

Yummy chocolate 🙃

Re: Games on tape, I'm collecting C64 tape games at the moment, and test every one. It's given me back a real love of tape loaders. After having .d64s etc load through a BackBit, having to clunk in a tape and let it whir away has a weirdly relaxing vibe. And you'd be surprised how fast tape loading is compared to a modern console! Side by side and from power-on, Uridium loaded on tape a good 30 seconds before my PS4 had booted itself, booted a game, connected to the game's servers and then loaded the world map.

I still have a my games on tape and all safely tucked away in a flight case… midnight resistance the game of my child hood 😂

Nice anti-static 70s towel.

When I got my C64, it actually came with a 1531 with an official adapter in the box. I always preferred the colour of the 1531

38 minutes. Out of curiosity what is the intended definition of “mini”? IMO, this counts. Never change, Adrian.

It's very sweet, but Lemon & Paeroa drinks go very well with Southern Comfort.

"David W Johnson" Me: turns head I run into this all the time lol

On the tape thing, with certain tapes, especially ones with the Ocean Loader, the loading screen and music were part of the hype when getting ready to play. The original release of Wizball(not the Hit Squad rerelease, which used a plain black screen and timer), for instance used a variation of the Ocean Loader that was almost atmospheric to the game, with the spacey tune and the black border with intermittent purple lines. I do agree if there isn't a special loader or anything, though.

L&P is awesome stuff :D

If you have a joystick plugged in, you can also press the fire button to load in the program from tape.

I'm planning to just get a C64 Mini for my gaming needs, thank you very much.

I remember Milka being so creamy and sweet from when I was a kid in the 60s on a family trip to Italy. But I bought some recently in Australia, and it did have the Milka taste, but it wasn't as creamy and sweet as I remember. I doubt if it's changed, so it goes to show that experiances when you're young don't transfer to when you are old. Small candy sections in tech vids is fine, it's just when you get 10min block in a row, ie, short spaced-out sections is probably the go.

For some reason the drink reminded me of when Jesse Cox had Iron Bru on the co-optional podcast with total biscuit (RIP) back in the day. So yeah I had to pull that up as a follow up video.

The serial port allows you to use a feature of the BIOS to access floppy images on a connected PC and even boot a DOS from it.

Paeroa is the name of the town in New Zealand where the drink was originally created using natural spring water.

With the anti-static mat being conductive (high resistance, but conductive), I wonder if it'll cause random issues when you have powered up PCB's sitting on it? I've been meaning to test that with mine here - for now I just make sure to have PCB's I'm powering up sitting on something insulated.

My Startech ESD mat melted immediately, and it stayed curled up for two years before it went into the recycling bin.

I like the candy reviews.

The candy breaks on this channel add real flavour to your regular tech-type videos. The candy by itself though is too much sweetness without substance. Overall I'm enjoying ADB ][ and don't miss the extra editing.

I think US cans are typically 355 mL actually, as that's 12 US fluid ounces. I've seen some European imported bottles that are 300 mL or 330 mL / 33 cL. The interesting thing about bottles in the US though, not cans, is that 500 mL is a very common size rather than 16 oz, as 500 mL is 16.9.

@bruwin

3 жыл бұрын

So the US didn't usually have a 1 liter size of soda back in the day. You could get stuff like Gatorade in a 32 ounce bottle, but soda generally came in 8, 12, or 16 ounces and then 2 liter. Then sometime in the 90s there was a big push for bigger portion sizes everywhere, so everyone started bottling 1 liter bottles. I think it was at that time they swapped 16 ounce for 500 ml as well, because I can't honestly recall when the last time I saw a 16 ounce bottle was, and the first time I saw a 16.9. Also, I don't know when the 2 liter was introduced, and if there was a 64 ounce soda bottle before then. I'd assume so, but that's before my time.

Although the white mat might make filming difficult, I think it will help track down those very small components which always seem to succeed in making a desperate bid for freedom. :)

I actually liked the candy review episode, perhaps shorter or different format? Anyhow thanks for the videos, love them all!

in Europe bottles were usually 330ml (11.2 floz) or 500ml. In the US cans are normally 12floz (355 ml).

@rawr51919

3 жыл бұрын

Canada has them normally at 341ml (closer to 11.5floz US)

@tomf3150

3 жыл бұрын

In France cans are usually 150 ml, 250 ml, 330 ml and 500 ml.

@j-fharbec379

3 жыл бұрын

@@rawr51919 This is because the Imperial and the US ounces aren't the same. Canada, being closely related to the Imperial system uses imperial ounces. This is why Canada has 341ml bottles. However, we do have 355ml aluminium cans because it's the same as they have in the U.S.

@j-fharbec379

3 жыл бұрын

Probably because 330 ml is 1/3 Litre and 660 is 2/3 Litre. I'm sure it's not related to ounces or pints.

6:36 In (summer) the humid basement you don't get much static electricity, but it looks professional. Good for (dry) winter.

@6581punk

3 жыл бұрын

It can be generated with certain carpets and shoes though. The old balloon rubbed on your head trick proves that.

that banana clip might even fit in one of those receptacle grounds.

It is not just the center pin that is different. The C128/Amiga square DINs are a 'W' pattern. The Plus/4 has a square pin pattern. If it was just the center pin you could snip it out of the C128/Amiga DIN and be all set.

The soft drink from New Zealand Lemon & Paeroa, also known as L&P, is a sweet soft drink manufactured in New Zealand. Created in 1907, it was traditionally made by combining lemon juice with carbonated mineral water from the town of Paeroa, but is now owned and manufactured by multi-national Coca-Cola. When you say Paeroa try saying it "Pie row a" but say quickly as one word (name)

I do have a Commodore plus 4 in box with its original packing material

Hello, just a quick note, for tapes some games have turbo program that you load before game and than IT is faster than 1541 without fastloader. Some games required head fit correction program.

Now we need to find an anti-chocolate mat to protect the anti static mat. 😁

My idea would be to clip off the cable that comes out of the power brick towards the Plus/4 and connect that cable to your Nubrick or other replacement power supply

Lemon & Paeroa, also known as L&P, is a sweet soft drink manufactured in New Zealand. Created in 1907, it was traditionally made by combining lemon juice with carbonated mineral water from the town of Paeroa, but is now owned and manufactured by multi-national Coca-Cola.

@31:55, separate audio, music, or vocal instructions playing simultaneously while loading from a tape has always been a feature on the Atari 8 bit computer line of tape decks.

The off-white "C2N" datasette that you normally see with the Vic-20, PET, and C64 is functionally identical to the black 1531 and I think has a 1530 model number. That said, there are several variations of the internal signal-processing circuit board, and that makes troubleshooting one these a bit of a hassle. The PCB revision on the silkscreen doesn't always match up with the available schematics, and so you have to play a matching game with the PCB layout and schematic, often looking for the one that has a best fit :(

I learned the hard way about the dangers of using a Plus/4 with the original power supply; I literally held my breath watching that segment! The parts get harder to find each time. I heard someone was working on an FPGA CPU replacement for the Plus/4, but don't know if it ever came out.

@6581punk

3 жыл бұрын

Same with all of the old commodore bricks until the C128 where they switched over to switch mode supplies. The linear ones go out of spec and start outputting very high voltages. They encased them in resin thinking it would spread the heat better, instead it just fries the caps.

@rawr51919

3 жыл бұрын

So far so good, it looks like Adrian got away lucky with that one! I'd recommend checking over the voltages that PSU outputs before anything is plugged into it, like checking the fluids in a car before you start it

Adrian make sure the ground wire has a high ohm resistor (the mat will probably be one?) in line. Otherwise, If you touch something hot with one hand and straight ground with the other... I had a grounded wrist strap with no resistor and got a little scare. PS: Milka is the best chocolate IMO. :)

cool c64 plus 4 awesome machine

we have 330ml soda/pop in the uk when i bought some in usa it was 360 or 380

Not only that the 128 or the Amiga 500 PSU has a 5th center pin but the 4 pins around that are different, the Plus4 PSU's 4 pins are simmetrical (like a square) while the 4 pins around the center pin are not, the top 2 pins are slightly farther from the center pin then the bottom. So even if you were to remove a center pin from a plug you'd still be unable to hook it up to a Plus4's socket.

375ml is a standard can size in Australia. But there's a lot of variation these days. All the cans in that "form factor" come off the same style of equipment, there's a story, quite possibly apocryphal that the first non-standard can sizes happened because the machine at one manufacturer screwed up and made a bunch of cans which were larger than "normal" and it was cheaper to fill and sell the bigger cans (and a nice marketing gimmick to boot) than it was to re-manufacture them in the right size.

That ADDRESS is now a STATE FARM office..

Adrian's gonna have to start playing "I Want Candy" by either MC Chris or Bow Wow Wow with how much he's receiving.

@nekomasteryoutube3232

3 жыл бұрын

I want Candy, bubble gum and taffy!

@minty_Joe

3 жыл бұрын

@@nekomasteryoutube3232 Carl: Dammit!

THat Kamakazi game's music reminds me so much of another Codemasters title, MIG-29 on the NES.

Whittaker's is always a winner

68f? I’m jealous… it’s going to be 100f here today; and the smoke yesterday was so bad it looked foggy outside - but that _wasn’t_ fog! I don’t think it’s going to get any better today… 🥵

Turn the mat Around the Black Side is the Upper side

Nice hiss

are you sure you should plug the ground plug into the socket? in the USA, the ground plug is connected to the neutral in the circuit breaker box. by doing that, you're connecting the mat to the mains power.

24:00 i'd swear we used to have the very same floppy controller card on our 386DX.. unfortunately i do not know where it went :((((

Cassettes were pretty much the only way people bought software for the CBM machines in the UK, I'm not sure if anything was really even released on floppy.