Timestamps 0:00 EFAP intervention 1:09 Welshness 2:28 KZread issues & planning 3:52 Part V 5:39 Tweet & SW fake deaths 8:54 Kenobi & RLM 15:47 Room code 18:29 Umbrella 21:16 Opening: The Bar 27:49 The Best Thing About The Prequels 30:36 Obi-Wan Is Boring 41:34 Star wars future projects 44:07 Back to RLM 45:49 Youngling Hats 50:03 Order 66 57:00 Army of SW defenders 1:00:10 Super Generic Trailer Music Edit 1:03:14 Cheapness vs Incompetence 1:12:16 Slapping vs Geonosis 1:16:55 CGI is BAD 1:43:54 Rogue One 1:48:19 Back to RLM 1:50:38 What is Canon? 1:58:27 Efap Focus & Disney’s Video-games 2:01:07 Credibility & Suitability 2:07:47 Kenobi vs Mustafar (1) 2:12:41 Vader vs Anakin 2:23:08 Kenobi vs Mustafar (2) 2:24:53 Rich’s Take 2:28:19 Relevant Superchat 2:34:00 Anakin = Vader 2:37:19 Mike’s Take 2:38:18 What do you do? 2:43:54 Leia Knows Who OWK is 2:54:44 Baby Leia 2:57:41 Low Expectations 3:04:50 Fringy's Variety Quarter: Shy Guy 3:19:16 Superokkey 3:22:35 Slow & Awkward Action 3:27:18 A Casual Conversation 3:28:33 Tala 3:35:25 Leia 3:39:24 Canon 3:42:32 The Adamantium Bullet 3:47:39 Discrepancy or not? 3:49:23 The Hotel 3:51:24 Mike’s point 3:54:51 Rich’s point 4:02:24 A Titanic Joke 4:04:52 Rags & Flash 4:06:20 The state of Disney 4:09:04 The Most Boring Character in SW 4:10:35 Light Years 4:13:15 Obi-Wan is Boring 4:20:12 Length of a fight 4:24:40 How many hands? 4:28:05 A Triumph 4:34:25 Interesting = Good 4:35:30 Some Way To Grow 4:41:10 Damaging Star Wars 4:49:30 What the fans want 4:51:30 What the writers want 4:54:00 Conclusions 4:55:30 RLM are fun 4:58:30 An Opportunity to run away 4:59:58 Origin of a Supervillain 5:06:28 Digimon of the day 5:09:09 First Live Efap 5:10:03 Animal of the day 5:11:30 Superchats (1) 5:14:30 Creepto, Krypton, Crypto, Kenobi, Calvin 5:18:35 Newspapers 5:21:20 A Long Videogame Tangent 5:28:15 Pokedex 5:30:42 Jay’s mic & Superchats (2) 5:32:40 Animal of the day 5:33:32 Superchats (3) 5:34:48 Supermassive Game 5:39:00 The Boys 5:40:34 Immersion, Mechanics & Morality 5:49:53 The Last Of Us 5:51:00 EFAP Micro: Art & Artists 6:16:30 Jay 6:17:12 Superchats (4) 6:18:15 EFAP TV Reveal!!! 6:20:11 Superchats (5) 6:22:03 RLM Strange Behaviour 6:25:03 Superchats (6) 6:31:26 Army of the dead 6:36:06 Superchats (7) 6:36:33 Days, Weeks, Years, Decades & Centuries 6:47:18 Planning ahead 6:48:34 Kenobi Good 6:49:19 Superchats (8) 6:50:45 Animals of the day 6:54:54 The worst awakening 6:58:30 Superchats (9) 7:00:30 Metal goes to sleep 7:01:28 Jay & Metal’s Star Trek Podcast 7:03:28 Naming podcasts 7:05:38 EEAAO score 7:06:37 Superchats (10) 7:09:05 Maverick 7:10:36 Stranger Things 7:18:20 Soma & Jay’s meme (1) 7:20:07 Realistic Action in a Movie (1) 7:23:00 Jay’s meme (2) 7:24:12 Realistic action in movies (2) 7:27:43 Gungans vs Grievous 7:28:56 Lightsabers 7:32:37 Kenobi Part I 7:34:28 Superchats (11) 7:38:17 CGI 7:43:29 Superchats (12) 7:59:53 Closing & Planning

@cyrus2395

2 жыл бұрын

Bless you for your work, and so quick, too!

@AscendantStoic

2 жыл бұрын

Somebody put a pin into this 📍

@Vergil486

2 жыл бұрын

Chad

@sparkypack

2 жыл бұрын

📌📌📌

@johnlemoine6399

2 жыл бұрын

You should be paid for this (I'm not gonna do it)

I agree with others who say RLM is probably checked out on Star Wars in general. But I think another aspect is that RLM is so emotionally invested in how much they dislike the Prequels that it may be hard for them to admit (consciously or unconsciously) that there can be Star Wars content that's worse than the Prequels. You can tell from some of their statements in their Kenobi video that they still have visceral reactions to the Prequels. The Prequels were to them what TLJ and other Disney Star Wars content is to many of us.

@redman9493

2 жыл бұрын

I still argue the sequel trilogy did far more damage than the prequels ever could, so this eternal grudge towards the prequels feels petty in retrospect these days. I also want to add that RLM are aware that there are Star Wars fans who blame them for the sequel trilogy, mostly because RLM originally suggested J. J. Abrams as the director. So sometimes I think they double down on this stuff out of spite.

@nagger8216

2 жыл бұрын

I just don't get how they can hate the prequels but like Kenobi when they're both in the exact same boat. Both are terribly written and directed with awful dialogue, boring as fuck and miserable to watch, look like shit and also ruin characters from the OT.

@willfanofmanyii3751

2 жыл бұрын

@@redman9493 And Simon Pegg even referenced JJ watching RLM's Prequel videos.

@bigbeefy111

2 жыл бұрын

@@nagger8216 I would rather watch the prequels than this or most of the garbage that Disney has put out. I don’t think the prequels are a fair comparison. They didn’t damage characters and break canon nearly as bad. I’m not saying the prequels are amazing. I think it had good ideas that were just executed poorly. The dialogue was not great and the CGI was overused, but it delivered in choreography, score, and other aspects. I thought some characters were handled just fine and some of the new characters were actually interesting, unlike most of the boring one dimensional characters in Kenobi. Or characters that have no realistic identity at all.

@voicingdragoon7

2 жыл бұрын

Not surprising, considering their fame is pretty much singlehandedly cause of the Prequels

Heck, at this point, Obi-Wan and Leia spent more time together than he and Luke did.

@purpleemerald5299

2 жыл бұрын

I’m borderline expecting Leia to call him “Uncle Ben” at some point. XD

@TheMaleRei

2 жыл бұрын

@@purpleemerald5299 Worse. Kenobi will think to himself at the end of the series, (possible) - "Leia just might make a better Jedi thank Luke..."

@whitworth5s248

2 жыл бұрын

At first I kinda accepted their connection because Leia had to have known him from somewhere, but now that I look back, that hologram message she sent through R2D2 says, "General Kenobi, years ago you served my father in the Clone Wars..." Hardly a fitting greeting given their now canonical history together, I'd say...

@darwinxavier3516

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheMaleRei I'm sure that's what the shit writers wanted to happen. Too bad it would contradict the whole "That boy is our last hope" line. But then again Georgy himself is egregiously guilty of the whole "certain point of view" diarrhea to justify the hyper specific wording of what happened to Luke's father being unambiguously wrong.

@lukew6725

2 жыл бұрын

@@purpleemerald5299 If she did call him "Uncle Ben", would that mean Leia became Spiderman after he died? 🤔

2:45:50 The reason the beginning of Leia's message sounds weird in the context of already knowing him, is because *she is introducing herself to him*. She doesn't say "I'm Leia Organa, Princess of Alderaan" to remind him who she is, she says "you served with my father in the clone wars". She's giving context for why he should care what she has to say. You don't do this for someone you've already extensively associated with.

@justinsane1119

2 жыл бұрын

Amazingly lame reasoning

@aaronjustice9020

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I mean it was undeniable not good, but they were lucky that the OT wording wasnt more definitive. If you haven't seen someone since you were a kid and need to ask a huge favor you might use the example as to why you justify asking beyond just having met as a kid. Still shitty writing though and this series could have been Obi Wan doing something that needed to be done as a clean up without ever having him interact with Luke and Leia. Buying the ship toy would have been all the fan service required. No spying necessary.

@RM_VFX

2 жыл бұрын

She had her memory wiped. Isn't that the answer to every continuity problem at this point?

@aaronjustice9020

2 жыл бұрын

@The Rotten💯 not really since he served her adopted father in both instances. She didn't ask him to do anything. I hated the Obi Wan show but this is not picky. It's stupid to have had him interact with her at all, but the message isn't story breaking, it's just lame that he had helped before and so it seems like less of a last resort, wild chance.

@username45739

2 жыл бұрын

Logical consistency is important, but Canon is Sacred.

Darth Maul's survival was certainly stretching it already, but I think people could kinda accept it because for one, the Clone Wars series used him for some pretty good stories and secondly, because surprise survivals hadn't become a habit yet. Later instances had neither the quality stories to justify bringing the character back to live, nor the benefit of being the sole exception. In addition it feels so overdone by now, that even fully intentional fake out deaths leave a bad taste.

@no3scap3117

2 жыл бұрын

Everybody comes back to life except the ones that deserved better like Luke, Han, and Leia of course

@LawlTwins

2 жыл бұрын

@Marcus Fenix True but that's game/expanded universe. I think to most people the movies and even tv series/cartoons are the main canon which makes sense, kinda have to go on the majority.

@randalthekidd7006

2 жыл бұрын

@Marcus Fenix Fr they should have made maul darth scion tbh. The magic nightsister stuff combined with his unique situation of being the only real full apprentice of Palpatine who could have used sith alchemy to make him more powerful gives the perfect narrative excuse. Imagine we see him by the sequels as a decrepit version of himself with holes and rot and hatred and real bright sith eyes. Would have been perfect, a ghost of anakin and obi wan, knew the entire story. Tried to help stop it and then after dying the second time finding new dark purpose. Then we get darth talon as the main enemy force. So much potential and they decided on Palpatine who blew up.

@monke12354

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed, I always disliked Maul's suprise survival but it was at least not a super common thing for SW at the time, and they used for for mostly decent stories

@kingbash6466

2 жыл бұрын

The only other time a major SW character came back to life before Disney was Palpatine in Dark Empire, and despite most fans hating it, at least there was an explanation through cloning, instead of people surviving fatal wounds because “muh spin-offs.”

RLM is just going "oh yeah kenobi...... anyways let's shit on the prequels again"

@TheMaleRei

2 жыл бұрын

Rather like Extra Credits and the bio-essentialism video that EFAP covered: "Wait, is this another excuse for EFAP to talk about the Bad Germans in the 1930's and 1940's?"

@johnny.V03

6 ай бұрын

RLM in 2030: “I know you guys are here for my review on Iron Man 5 but first let me spend 45 minutes to remind you that the Prequels suck.”

@Hashbrown1682

6 ай бұрын

@johnny.V03 basically like that was their foundation so they got to keep bringing it even though things have gotten worse

@HerohammerStudios

5 ай бұрын

​@@TheMaleRei what?

@SpFlash1523

Ай бұрын

Watch them do it again if and when they review "The Acolyte": "tHe pReQuELs aRe sTilL wAy wOrSe tHaN tHis!"

Watching this and the RLM video itself, it really does feel like the guys just don't give a shit about starwars at all anymore, so the Kenobi show is now just another 'best of the worst' episode for them. Not shocking they like it for just being "cheap" and "bad" it fits the meta, with that in mind Rich's hot takes seem less hot and more eh whatever statements of a man who has been done for a while.

@-PVL93-

2 жыл бұрын

It's understandable, all their favourite franchises went down in flames and the corporations that own said franchises continue pissing on the graves

@thesuperintendent4290

2 жыл бұрын

@@-PVL93- I just think that everything except Rogue One and Clone Wars Season 7 is the only cannon thing that came out of Disney. As MauLer once said... "Just don't think about it."

@user-xx6vy9ri8p

2 жыл бұрын

@@thesuperintendent4290 Fallen Order was good.

@thesuperintendent4290

2 жыл бұрын

@@user-xx6vy9ri8p Yeah I'll allow it. Gotta admit though. Vader chucking Cere off the edge was the funniest shit in Star Wars.

@gurigura4457

2 жыл бұрын

I think that RLM only puts in proper effort where it's something they care about. For Mike & Rich, that's Trek, and for Jay it's arthouse film. Otherwise, although they do make critiques, there's a lot of "whatever, I enjoyed it". Their Snyder cut review was similar, in the sense that they treated it a big dumb popcorn flik, rather than a piece of media to be analysed. Jay at least recognised Kenobi's flaws, but didn't push enough against Rich's DGAF attitude.

In Revenge of the Sith, the younglings Anakin kills in the temple aren't wearing the helmets.

What helps the prequels is that you can feel they were made with good intentions, the sequels not so much.

I don't understand how a single stormtrooper bonking its head means stormtroopers can't ever be serious. Look up military mistakes, they goof off, or fall down, or hit their heads all the time. It doesn't mean its incompetence.

@fredriklandin

2 жыл бұрын

Not true! Once an american soldier misfired and shot one of his mates.. so now its cannon that american somdiers only shot at friendlys. Thats why germany almost won 2nd world war .. thats how it works just accept it

@HerohammerStudios

Жыл бұрын

Of course US soldiers can blow up their own army, hand over the keys to the white house and call themselves "little clown boys" while sucking off Putin. In 1977 a US soldier bonked his head on a branch

Saying obi wan vs vader in the show is better than obi wan vs anakin is one of the most insane things I've ever heard

@superjlk_9538

2 жыл бұрын

@Marcus Fenix I would have preferred at least some physical costumes for scenes with them up close. The rest can be cgi

@gottesurteil3201

2 жыл бұрын

@@superjlk_9538 yeah that is reasonable. Lucas was a pioneer for special effects and I think he believed the film would be just fine with all the cgi they used. The films still look fine for the most part and if anything they were stepping stones for greater visuals in the future.

@superjlk_9538

2 жыл бұрын

@@gottesurteil3201 the clones do look great when they aren’t right next to an actual actor. The CGI is still incredible but not on realistic levels

@cellulanus

2 жыл бұрын

@Marcus Fenix Personally I never realized that the clones were CGI until someone pointed it out to me. Sure I see it now, but it's good enough that I didn't notice it when I wasn't looking for it.

@Thegeobot

2 жыл бұрын

@Marcus Fenix they did CGI Clones even when like only 1 or 3 show up on screen, and it looks horrible, and its just because George couldnt bother to move away from his chair and film a couple of guys with clone suits on a set that was not a blue screen. those movies are such lazy piss poor jobs.

Leia calls Obi Wan by his real name in the hologram. Obi Wan says he hasn't gone by the name of Obi Wan since before Luke was born. Luke and Leia are the same age. Conversation over.

@dragonknightleader1

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I was always working under the assumption that Leia only knows him because of Bail's rolodex. Now, this story makes the Organa's so connected to Obi-wan that they have to be declared traitors. Tarkin had built up a 10 year long case of the Organa's treason that was confirmed in Rogue One where Leia was at the Battle of Scarif. Thus, Tarkin was legally right to destroy it.

@heronofalexandria91

2 жыл бұрын

@@dragonknightleader1 Bail was extremely careful not to expose himself. This series makes him out to be a moron, not to mention the Empire already has enough evidence to arrest and charge him now.

@dragonknightleader1

2 жыл бұрын

@@heronofalexandria91 The focus on Leia is itself a bad idea when they want to write an intrigue character. Bail already exists and having him be a main character would break less lore, add another actor with royal jelly to the show, and chase scenes would be easier to execute without having to get kid insurance.

@gr-8166

4 ай бұрын

⁠@@heronofalexandria91I thought it would be cool if the empire had leverage by threatening to take her hostage using a guild like Crimson Dawn to bend Bail’s arm to cave to the Emperor’s demand. While this happens, Bail in his limitations tries to talk with Mon Mothma and Moncala peeps about the alliance and the inter politics of starting a military industrial complex of the rebellion. What I’m saying is that a political thriller is so perfect for Bail Organa. It would also establish the world building of the New Republic as it would slowly make a good intention emergency military industrialization slowly become bureaucratic and authoritarian… but by depicting that they have to change the Resistance’s own existence or at least diminish the New Republic so much.

Man, I still cannot believe that both Mike and Rich came on mid stream to respond to EFAP's critisms. And when Mike convinced Mauler to do a face-reveal AND do all that breakdancing, while Fringy was handing out ewok-passes, that was peak EFAP.

@willbeard4835

2 жыл бұрын

watching on the 1% chance this is true

@chaoticreckless6909

2 жыл бұрын

I legit thought this was gonna be one of the rare EFAPs where people come to respond to criticisms for a second there

@randalthekidd7006

2 жыл бұрын

😂 bro why did my dumbass believe you until I read breakdancing

@EnsignRedshirtRicky

2 жыл бұрын

Who could have guessed that Rags's is Australian, MauLer is Cuban, Fringy is Irish, Mootal is Japenese, and Jay is a Chat Bot? This solidifies EFAP acting as good rat.

@Edax_Royeaux

2 жыл бұрын

Mauler already did a face-reveal in his Dark Souls video. You can literally google for his face.

I'd defend mustafar. There was character development at the start, in the middle, and at the end. Theres also a little bit of storytelling in the combat with anakin being hyper agressive and obi wan being on the defensive most of the time. That, and the times they use similar moves because they trained together over years. And the spectacle of it was fine. It was a grand fight over treacherous terrain as the finale with John Williams in the background. To me, it was fitting as an ending. I thought it was relatively well done.

@gleekthemonkey4570

2 жыл бұрын

It’s a cgi fuckfest with the over the top choreography of prequel lightsaber battles that look like ballet dances. On top of that Hayden Christensen gives a god awful performance that made me laugh out loud multiple times. It’s not all his fault as he had to let out some of that terrible George Lucas prequel dialogue.

@Urbaninjaq

2 жыл бұрын

@@gleekthemonkey4570 I disagree with some of that, but I'll agree that the dialogue was bad. I always thought the story was great. I love order 66 and everything that points to it. But the way it was handled with the shitty dialogue really makes it hard to defend.

@gleekthemonkey4570

2 жыл бұрын

@@Urbaninjaq I actually recently watched the prequels and my biggest take away was "Imagine if this was good?" Imagine how emotional the face off between Obi Wan and Anakin could have been. Imagine how horrifying the execution of order 66 could have been. I agree that the story outline is good but the execution just falls flat unfortunately. lol

@baddgerpaw

2 жыл бұрын

@@gleekthemonkey4570 Exactly great set ups but awful execution

@gr-8166

4 ай бұрын

⁠@@gleekthemonkey4570it has the best composite shots in film. Look up how they built the “biggature” it’s all etched out and the lava itself is also illuminated liquid oozing around the set. It’s perhaps one of the more fascinating behind the scenes process. CGI isn’t a problem and yes the swinging bit is overkill but this duel is thematic to what Lucas wanted, a decent to hell. On top of that I’m curious how much more horrifying you want order 66 to be? If anything it’s excessively violent even for a Lucas film, he even didn’t like how kids pick up guns to shoot at one another, he was fine with troopers because they aren’t humanized; but with officers he would cut seconds of film from A New Hope to not linger on the violence. Plus the wooden dialogue was never the selling point of scenes, as Lucas always said about the films, these movies are tone poems. I’ve seen the Spanish dub many times before watching the English dub years later and all the scenes it conveys are as good as the editing/score really helps convey much of the scenes. The delivery in Spanish is also unchanged, its using a Spanish equivalent of transatlantic dialogue which was common in older cinema. These movies were meant for 12 year olds and much of these emotions in the series resonated when I was a child. One last thing. I hated Jar Jar as a kid, his face was off putting, now I actually laugh along at how much of a goof he is. It’s childish and not too stupid, he’s just a clumsy character akin to Buster Keaton. Don’t believe me? There’s a shot for shot homage to one of Buster’s film and Jar Jar clinging onto the barrel of the ATT. Tl;dr I think Lucas had a great narrative that deviates from just being a fallen hero or hero’s journey, he explores fate v destiny and the eventual conclusion was a clash of fatalist ideals and self determination. There’s even a four hour compilation of the films referencing each other and shot references of other films. One of my favorites is the shot for shot reference of “The Fall of the Roman Empire” for the celebration of Naboo.

So, Reva put a tracker into Leia's Droid to make sure the Inquisition could follow her, but then tries to stop her when the princess tries to escape with Obi-Wan. Even if it's a failsafe it's still bizarre considering that Leia was locked up into a fortress 'no one would be crazy enough to attack'.

@toddpacker1015

2 жыл бұрын

Even though Cal Kestis attacked it 5 years earlier. But I digress

@speedylewder120

2 жыл бұрын

And the fact she even put it in the droid when Leia can see what she doing make it worst like why are you doing it in front of her

@lillones

2 жыл бұрын

Wouldn't it be suspicious if they didn't try to stop her from escaping? Might be speaking out of line as I havnt watched the garbage series, but if they just let her go it would look like they were just trying to follow her

@sol-hunter2332

2 жыл бұрын

@@lillones well, considering the fact she was only stopped cause she got shot at by an snowspeeder (technically it probably some air speeder, but still), and also threw a bomb at one of the ships. But they also didn't deploy the tie fighters they already showed were in the hanger in an earlier scene. This show is poorly written, high budget fanfiction.

@alicea3421

2 жыл бұрын

To add to this, Leia was only there because in the prior episode Reva went looking for her, despite her motivation being Vader and Obi-Wan. That was the best opportunity she would ever have to fulfill her supposed motivation. Getting Leia would only aid in finding Obi-Wan yet again. But she already knows where he is, and his purpose to her had already been fulfilled.

I understood your joke Rag's, sorry it didn't land. But then again, neither did the Titanic.

@jeffreyspinner9213

2 жыл бұрын

"I'll never let go Jack!" then she pulls his hand off hers and he slowly sinks into the deep... I laughed so hard that so many years ago, because that is EXACTLY how women act irl.

@Edax_Royeaux

2 жыл бұрын

Technically the Titanic did land. Generally you don't want ships hitting rock bottom though.

@capthavic

2 жыл бұрын

@@Edax_Royeaux damn beat me to it lol

@heronofalexandria91

2 жыл бұрын

@@jeffreyspinner9213 you’re not wrong. I’d definitely push you off lol

@youtubeisapublisher6407

2 жыл бұрын

Well it did land somewhere, the same place Star Wars' quality did in fact! The bottom of the ocean!

4:34:44 Rags gives a perfect summation of why Top Gun: Maverick is so beloved right now. It was safe, predictable, and SO well done. Now THAT is a triumph. Not this hot garbage.

@thesaltmerchant4564

2 жыл бұрын

It had actual character arcs with emotions I didn’t even watch all of the first top gun and the ending for maverick was hitting me in the feels hard cause of personal stuff that made me relate to them

@oddballskull1941

Жыл бұрын

So the fuck was episode 7

@thesaltmerchant4564

Жыл бұрын

@@oddballskull1941 very safe to destroy the worldbuilding and precious characters with a weakly executed retread of episode 4s plot

@HerohammerStudios

Жыл бұрын

@@oddballskull1941 "SO well done" was an important part. TFA was held together with duck tape at best

@thefunnyaerialman

Жыл бұрын

@@HerohammerStudios I agree, but it's called duct tape, not duck tape.

RLM saying that the inconsistency between Leia and Obi-wan’s relationship in A New Hope “isn’t something worth getting bent out of shape about” is pure cope. The prequel reviews that made them famous are unironically some of the most nitpicky content on all of KZread. It’s so obvious that they’re hung up on the prequels. They cannot allow any Star Wars thing to be worse than them, and they’re going to some pretty shocking lengths to maintain this delusion.

@darthdragonborn1552

Жыл бұрын

It’s like when Jay one time ironically said Rey was able to beat Kylo in TFA when it’s absolutely ridiculous her and Finn weren’t immediately killed, was because Kylo was injured lol

@lowdownpapaya7292

11 ай бұрын

Or maybe: get this, they didn’t dislike obi wan as much as the prequels?? Crazy idea right

@gamefan987

11 ай бұрын

​@@lowdownpapaya7292they can like it as much as they want but that's different from saying that it's better. So you like Kenobi more than Ep 3 ? Okay. Is the fight in Kenobi better than in Ep 3 ? Hell no. Not even close.

@Phoenix0F8

10 ай бұрын

@@lowdownpapaya7292 I already just despise this tone you're taking lol like why does everyone on the internet think they have to speak in pure snark at all times like they're in a joss wheedon film, it's not cute or clever anymore it's actually just obnoxious

@Kino_pup

10 ай бұрын

@@lowdownpapaya7292but that is such a strange strange idea.. honestly I would agree with you generally but the idea that they are stuck on the prequels being the most bad.. kind of makes more sense. Something in their mind has been bent or broken to hate them that much. Kenobi or boba are just objectively kind of the worst thing to have been produced by Disney Star Wars.

RLM’s Kenobi video feels like they’re in the finally stage of grief where they sorta just accept that SW is in a perpetual state of mediocrity and is just along for the ride to see anything that makes them somewhat entertained.

I know this is a weird thing to get hung up on but I absolutely cannot stand that people have just accepted this narrative that Vader would/can absolutely destroy Obi-Wan in a fight. Did nobody pay attention to the films? Obi-Wan beats Anakin IN HIS PRIME on Mustafar, and when they fight again during A New Hope he allows Vader to kill him because he understands that he will become immortal through the force and because his death will spur Luke on to become a powerful Jedi. This whole narrative is just stupid. Obi-Wan is basically the ideal Jedi Knight and he is an exceptional warrior. Anakin says so himself - he rivals Windu as a fighter and Yoda as a master of the force. When Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon fight Maul, we see him succeed where his master fails. When the shields go up, Qui-Gon meditates, he tries to be calm, he does the thing he is expected to do and he dies for it. Obi-Wan doesn't do that - he gets angry, he gets pumped up, you can see him jumping at the opportunity to rush into battle because he is confident he can win. Of all the things that piss me off about the show, his sudden cowardice is the thing that pisses me off the most because Obi-Wan was NEVER a coward in the previous films. He was brave and confident without being arrogant. He demonstrated all the virtues of an actual knight. There is just no fuckin way that this guy - whose only remaining duty is to protect his figurative nephew - would become so meek and cowardly. If he ever saw so much as a flicker of a red lightsaber on Tatooine I don't buy for a single second he wouldn't shut that shit down ASAP. I mean for fucks sake he slices the arm off of a drunk who shoves Luke in a cantina, this show makes no sense.

@xrphoenix7194

2 жыл бұрын

It has been repeatedly established in canon that vader is the best fighter and strongest force user in Star Wars. Obi wans victory against anakin was incredibly conditional. 1st and foremost, obi wan trained anakin, he knew all of his moves because he either taught him himself, practiced with him, or saw him use them in the war. Anakin was also in an incredible emotional turmoil and power trip mindset so he was not fighting intelligently. Obi wan knew exactly how to counter anakin, and intelligently used the environment and anakins emotional state against him. On the other hand, obi wan knew nothing of how to counter vader. Physically Vader and anakin were entirely different. Vader is over half a foot taller, MUCH stronger, armored, uses a new custom variant of form v, and is significantly more powerful in the force. Obi wan would be utterly outmatched by vader after a few years post mustafar. If you want an analysis of vaders strength in canon check this out Answer to Who would win: Darth Vader (Canon) vs. Darth Vader (Legends)? by Mark Specter www.quora.com/Who-would-win-Darth-Vader-Canon-vs-Darth-Vader-Legends/answer/Mark-Specter-1?ch=15&oid=144507264&share=d4e98f37&srid=uveRKx&target_type=answer

@rhyscallinan2881

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed, Anakin was in his best form by the time the Mustafar battle came along, and then got shredded by Kenobi do bad he will never be as good as he was. And Kenobi is resolute in his ideals. He's the perfect Jedi Knight. So Disney's rendition of him is dreadful, embarrassing and insulting.

Yeah, so many times during that RLM video I stopped to think, “Oh boy, the massives are gonna have a field day with this.”

@happybirthdaypaulie8584

2 жыл бұрын

@@johnlonne7062 I dunno, that seems kinda contradictory to my OP, plus I don't think it's that hard for most rational people to see at least a few major problems with this show. But just to be on the safe side, don't put your face in any burning coals or it really will burn.

@Jamesgates355

2 жыл бұрын

@@johnlonne7062 im betting you actually wait for other people to say anything and CONSTSNTLY qoute them like its your own thought

@fookinkoont

2 жыл бұрын

@@johnlonne7062 wrong comment to respond with that but ok lol

The saddest and most terrifying conclusion I can draw from all these Disney shows is that sooner rather than later they'll have no choice but to remake the OT. Not even as a cash grab but to try and fix the chronology, every Star Wars live action show so far has added either events or characters that should've at the very least get a mention in the OT.

@gusty9053

2 жыл бұрын

Oh i am 100 % they will do it and it will be more terrible than we can imagine. Unless there is a "4 billion dollars penalty iron clause" somewhere that says "keep the F away from the OT" they will remake them and drag them through the mud in a heartbeat (they already are ... you think Vader is the same after Kenoby ? - he is already two steps away from a parody of himself). All it will take is another flop or two from the other soy wars lineup of shows or the Disney + content drying up. They are making remakes of remakes of their old legendary movies by this point. And CKK would ruin the OT just out of pure spite if nothing else.

@whitworth5s248

2 жыл бұрын

@Marcus Fenix They already have partially. Remember those short cartoon clips they released a while back that rewrote OT scenes to make the male characters look incompetent while Leia was heroically saving the universe by herself?

@kngt_ldr9853

2 жыл бұрын

@@whitworth5s248 Oh God, I had forgotten about that, they really are going to remake the OT but worse...

@fookinkoont

2 жыл бұрын

They remade Lion King but worst, yet it made bank because nostalgia. Bet on it, they will remake the OT by 2032

@kelp7060

2 жыл бұрын

They'll remake it and write somehow making less sense with all their sequel and prequel stuff, lol.

Rich at the 1:01:50 mark: "the slick editing actually made the prequels seem a little bit meaningful" The prequels have lots of problems, but being "meaningless" isn't one of them, at least by any common definition of the word "meaningful." While Lucas's intended themes and morals didn't make it to screen as effectively as he envisioned, it's absurd to pretend they don't come across at all (or never existed in the first place). It's honestly difficult to imagine anyone, even a child, not understanding at least some of the basic themes by the end of Episode 3. This basically inaccurate remark by Rich really typifies RLM's rigid and reductive evaluation of the prequels: we really don't like them, so anything good about them can be completely disregarded.

“Most CGI is bad” has to be objectively false considering most CGI elements in live action films are used in the background and is never noticed until BTS are released

It's ok to admit that things suck. That's the only way for things to get better is to acknowledge that they suck. I think too many people have the mindset of "it's better than nothing" or they just turn their brains off and like the pretty colors.

"Can we snipe them?". Stormtrooper snipers would be the scariest thing in any battlefield, with them no one's safe. Literally, no one.

@kusakabe3264

2 жыл бұрын

i enjoy this comment, but in the context of what you've responded to, the subject is clone troopers.

@84C4

2 жыл бұрын

@@kusakabe3264 Damn that really fucks with my joke, clones should be good shots. They were joking about their aim a few mins before, so I got carried away. lol

@user-xx6vy9ri8p

Жыл бұрын

Crosshair: Easy work.

@boomerb7073

3 ай бұрын

Stormtroopers are canonically fantastic shots

You know, one of the things I find most annoying is the level of selective incompetence in the force seen in Obi Wan. If I were told that a jedi master is going to be essentially in exile for 10 years, the first thing I would think is "So he's going to spend 10 years meditating and learning about the force, right?" He'd surely be powerful as fuck having nothing to do with his time other than to hide, survive, and focus on his connection with the force. After 10 years of this, I'd expect him to be untouchable in the force, figuratively speaking.

@HerohammerStudios

Жыл бұрын

Which even more frustratingly seemed to be exactly what had happened in A New Hope

Anyone who defends the series is a nitwit. The script writing is truly horrendous. I could literally do a better job of writing the show and that's not even a boast; it's a statement of truth. People should NEVER be sat there as an audience member and thinking "I could literally write a better show than this". If that's what your audience members are thinking en masse, then you've fundamentally failed at the job which you claim to be a professional within. It would be akin to oneself going to a 5 star restaurant, paying for a meal and upon your first bite, thinking "I could have stayed at home and cooked a superior meal to this in my sleep, by using nothing more than a tin of beans and my microwave".

@Right_Said_Brett

2 жыл бұрын

@James Rocco I don't care if people like the series. That's fine. What bothers me is people who would defend the quality of the script writing. You can like something and still acknowledge its flaws. It's an objectively poorly written show, hence if somebody defends that level of artistic incompetence, then they are a nitwit.

@Right_Said_Brett

2 жыл бұрын

@Big Floppa No, I mean that a significant percentage of viewers picked up on the poor quality of script writing and were critical of the same moments throughout the show. We're talking about at least 50% of viewers. If enough people notice the same problems, then that tends to indicate that there's an issue with the script. This is as true of Obi-Wan Kenobi as it is a movie such as Prometheus.

i love how vader wants revenge via fire... my dude... he cut off every real limb you had left??? and you faceplant him into ineffectual fuel?

@username45739

2 жыл бұрын

ineffectualmao

I know people are giving them the benefit of the doubt after what Picard did to them, but frankly they’re just Trekkies who could not care less about the Star Wars franchise as a whole. Honestly I was not prepared for how bad those hot takes were, it was like hearing a RLM parody review except it was actually real.

@justinbotkin

2 жыл бұрын

thank you for using the saying "could not care less" properly.

@Right_Said_Brett

2 жыл бұрын

@@justinbotkin Damn straight. I can't stand it when people say "I could care less". That would mean that you do care a certain amount, dummy.

@kyle857

2 жыл бұрын

They have repeatedly said they don't give a shit about Star Wars because Star Wars has been bad basically since the OT. Why are you people surprised when they stick to that?

@redman9493

2 жыл бұрын

@@kyle857 Bad takes are still bad takes, regardless if they give a crap or not.

@user-xx6vy9ri8p

2 жыл бұрын

RLM were always this bad. Their rewiews are almost Cosmonaut level.

In regards to the "CGI is le bad" argument chat kept trying to make, I watched The Fellowship of the Ring in 4K for the first time last night and the Balrog still looks incredible.

@WrathofArchon

2 жыл бұрын

lord of the rings looks incredible despite being made 20 years ago, as you said the balrog looks incredible but also the undead in return of the king look great, the eye of sauron consistently looks good, and treebeard and the ents look good; the only shot i can remember being not great was towards the end of the fellowship when frodo grabs sam out of the water, but also, that's just one shot and it lasts for 3 seconds, so edit: alot of people are pointing out instances of bad cgi and uh, yeah, there's alot more than i remember, but i would still say a decent amount of the effects hold up well

@BringbackgAmberleafns

2 жыл бұрын

some of the lotr cgi is showing its age tho. like the the cgi armies look a bit clunky when you focus on it along with gollum not looking as good now. but yeah the balrog still looks incredible tbh

@heronofalexandria91

2 жыл бұрын

CGI has to be done right. Modern movie makers are just way too reliant on it and it just comes across bad. You need a good mix of practical and cgi to make great effects.

@willbeard4835

2 жыл бұрын

the scene where gollum pulls frodo out of the water with the ghosts still holds up too

@nobleman9393

2 жыл бұрын

CGI is bad, when it's bad.

"I think George Lucas would be proud of it." That has to be the most offensive thing that RLM said from the whole video. @ 3:51:50

@username45739

2 жыл бұрын

cry whiteboi

@insensitive919

Жыл бұрын

Pretty sure George dgaf.

@hideofreakingkojima5457

Жыл бұрын

@@insensitive919 The why would George say he felt betrayed when Disney/Lucasfilm's treatment to Star Wars?

When I watched the RLM video on episodes 1-4 the day it was uploaded, it made me feel depressed. The current standard set for entertainment media produced by mainstream juggernauts has absolutely obliterated Mike's and Rich's sanity to where they're somewhat okay with Kenobi's shit quality. I know I'm being over-dramatic about someone else's opinion, but I also like to think that there's a BUNCH (like tens of thousands) of people who share a similar rationale and THAT'S what concerns me because this is how these big media juggernauts will keep getting away with pumping out very mid-ass "okay" content rather than putting in the effort to make absolute masterpieces. Why? Money. One A+ isn't worth as much as five C-'s. And sadly, there's enough people in the world who are fine with a C- because it just gets the job done and entertains their little brain goblins. It's like this with Star Wars. It's like this with Marvel. It's like this with Lord of the Rings. It's especially like this with Pokémon. It's like this with Star Trek. It's pretty much like this with a lot of streaming services (especially Netflix). Entertainment is being mass-produced like food and it's every company's best interest to find a way to make more of it for less money-so long as the "food" is edible, they won't care about the quality if enough people are fine with it. And that's my TED talk about why we're fucked as a species. And it's not JUST the modern fans of mainstream content who perform supreme levels of mental gymnastics, but also the fair-weather fans who are not as invested as hardcore fans. Like, I definitely have friends who think Kenobi is good and they probably don't have enough time on their hands/have better things to do in order to understand why it's bad. That takes a lot of time watching many a video essay and, sadly, those friends of mine got other things to do because they're not massive homebody nerds like me. And Disney (and other juggernauts) WILL capitalize on this.

@LupeJustinian

2 жыл бұрын

Do you mean LOTR is getting mid-tier entries as in The Hobbit trilogy?

@ResidentTarantino

2 жыл бұрын

@@LupeJustinian I was talking about the upcoming Rings of Power. SOMEONE'S going to glean something out of that garbage. Some retirement-aged dads might? My dad definitely watches a lot of garbage just for having action and fantasy settings without ever understanding what makes something good or bad. I watched a video of two friends talking about the Halo series a couple months ago and one of them asked "who is this made for?" and the other said "my dad said he liked it." I painfully relate to that sentiment. My dad has watched Star Trek since TNG, but I don't think he ever knew what makes TNG so great. And now (even today before writing this), he's been watching Discovery. I think he was also checking out Strange New Worlds. It's only a matter of time until he stumbles into the Halo series.

@LupeJustinian

2 жыл бұрын

@Veteran Nintenerd 🤷 homogenized product has been a franchise issue forever. Like you said, your Dad has been watching this type of schlock forever. Same with mine. I just don't feel the Sky is Falling narrative is more relevant now than before. Profit is the mother of invention for better or for worse

@ResidentTarantino

2 жыл бұрын

@@LupeJustinian I disagree. I don't think homogenization has been a problem since forever. But it's definitely been spiking in stuff that once was formerly regarded as "nerd culture." Entertainment media is trying way too hard to appeal to everyone and losing sight of what made things originally great. At some point, for some of these series, something great got even greater. But somewhere along the line, a decline happened. And then these companies start to learn what they can cut out in order to produce things faster and/or in larger quantities with negligible backlash. I feel like the decline in quality has been getting steeper the longer it goes on

@LupeJustinian

2 жыл бұрын

@@ResidentTarantino I mean, there were dozens of horror and action franchise sequels from the 70's on where the quality dropped off a cliff. It's just part of the business. The animated LOTR was already an example of poor adaptation of fantasy. Any difference is probably that it's media you particularly care about, maybe? I mean, aside from the Donner Superman films, there haven't been any good Superman movies and they've tried across generations to replicate that magic. And I mean, we just got a spectacular Batman film after how many stops and starts in quality? I think the best approach is to briefly mourn the failures and champion the successes

Kreia in KOTOR explains the Sith and Jedi training styles in the best detail. I miss well written characters

@Phoenix0F8

10 ай бұрын

It's actually so upsetting that Kreia is actually one of the best written characters in all of fiction and yet today's star wars is almost exclusively known only for cringe

@matane2465

8 ай бұрын

The Red Letter Media guys don't know what KOTOR is.

The thought of needing the stupid hat to identify that they're younglings is hilarious like officer she wasn't wearing the hat how was I supposed to know

RLM spent so long saying the prequels were the worst Star Wars material of all time, that they can't accept when something that is legitimately worse comes along and insist that the prequels are still worse. Too much of their brand is based on prequel hate and they've gone too far to turn back.

@Edax_Royeaux

2 жыл бұрын

B-b-b-ut I like Awkward!

@gleekthemonkey4570

2 жыл бұрын

The prequels are worse. At least this show tells a compelling Vader and Obi wan story. I’m glad I can think back to this show when watching ep 4 instead of Obi wan having the high ground or whatever bullshit.

@Edax_Royeaux

2 жыл бұрын

@@gleekthemonkey4570 "You were my brother Anakin!" - Not Compelling *Remembers children exist = curbs stomps Vader* - Very compelling!

@denkerbosu3551

2 жыл бұрын

@@gleekthemonkey4570 yes, remember this as you see Leia not giving a fuck about Obi Wan's death.

@reek4062

2 жыл бұрын

the prequels are awful

Oh wow. I was not even close to prepared for how bad their takes were. I've always thought they were stupid whenever the prequels come up. But this is well into cognitive dissonance territory. The strangest criticism I see about the prequels is complaints that it used nothing but CGI, but they actually had way more practical effects then most people realized. Lucas used CGI the way it was meant to be used. He used it for scenes that would be impossible or at least nonviable to pull of with practical effects. Most things that could be done practically generally was. Most modern films on the other hand use CGI as a crutch.

@harlannguyen4048

2 жыл бұрын

Apparently, there were more practical effects in Phantom Menace than all the OT films combined.

I'm still working through the Obi Wan Minis and now an 8hr EFAP bringing RLM into it? We need an extra 12 hours added to each day just to make space for all this awesomeness.

I can't believe Jay said that one thing.

@willscott8923

2 жыл бұрын

It's the audacity for me

@nont18411

2 жыл бұрын

Timestamp please

@cyrus2395

2 жыл бұрын

@@nont18411 You can find it between 0:00:00 and 8:06:43

@mr.dolphin8345

2 жыл бұрын

@@cyrus2395 XD

@somethingwithultra7231

2 жыл бұрын

I mean ngl, Jay did say (or at least phrase) a point incredibly awkwardly.

Did RLM ever bring up Reva's rooftop parkour when complaining about mustafar flips? I feel like flipping over lava makes more sense than flipping over buildings.

@scienceviking4490

2 жыл бұрын

To be fair to RLM, lava emits an insane amount of heat so realistically, Anakin and Obi-Wan would have caught fire the instant they jumped off the platforms. That said, seemingly no movie ever actually portrays lava realistically, so it's kind of become something people just accept even though it's unrealistic.

@torchedheavily

2 жыл бұрын

@@scienceviking4490 I think you misunderstood. I'm talking about situations in which it would be necessary to do lots of flips. Not the effects of the environment. RLM seem to take more issue with the flipping itself, instead of where it takes place.

@xentiment6581

2 жыл бұрын

@@torchedheavily rlm hate boner over mustafar has always and will always be pretty big cringe

@scienceviking4490

2 жыл бұрын

@@torchedheavily Yeah, I missed your point. You're right that it makes more sense to flip over lava, since a flip takes you farther away from the lava, so you're less likely to catch fire. In fact, now that I think about it, the flipping might actually have been intended to address the heat from the lava, since Anakin catches fire as soon as he gets near the lava.

gotta disagree hard with jay here, Anakin was never shown to torture his opponents only killing them without mercy (as per dooku and the tuskens) and vader is just more of that but colder and more efficient. Not that Vader wouldn't torture someone but it would be in service of a goal not for personal satisfaction.

@ian-op5fv

2 жыл бұрын

He did choke that one officer in A New Hope when he insulted the force.

@user-xx6vy9ri8p

Жыл бұрын

He tortured Han without asking any questions.

@ian-op5fv

Жыл бұрын

@@user-xx6vy9ri8p I think that was to draw Luke in to cloud city.

Holy Shit! I just realized, Obi-Wan losing the force and Tala telling him it’s “mental not just physical”, this whole goddamn show, is just one giant metaphor for erectile dysfunction! That’s why his lightsaber doesn’t come out until episode 4. They took emasculating the hero one step further.

@LembeckIsStaying

2 жыл бұрын

Please stop, it's already dead! 😭😭😭

It's fascinating that people can defend disney shit with same arguments for years now.

@jeffreyspinner9213

2 жыл бұрын

They are just the PR depts which are extensions of the corporation themselves. What do you think is going on? They read the scripts given to them no different than our media talking heads, politicos or Zelensky for that matter. How many 80MM dolla box office openings isn't the corporation buying the tickets, like when ppl kinda read books, made the Best Seller lists because the publisher bought their own books?

@partypete2542

2 жыл бұрын

Truthfully I don’t know why they defend it so hard? Is it to virtue signal to left leaning social media audiences, do they just enjoy flashy shows with no substance, are they just addicted to SW to beyond criticism!

@HORSESNDOGS9

2 жыл бұрын

It's called mass denial

the prequels are considered bad but still feel, look, and sound like star wars. the sequels and TV shows feel like bad fan films compared to what Lucas made.

@randalthekidd7006

2 жыл бұрын

People just don’t like them. You can literally see everything George lucas was doing if you don’t simply try to harp on lines you don’t like.

@Krapvag

2 жыл бұрын

the prequels were a green screen nightmare of sitting down and talking for 9 hours. I have no idea why people like them, and the efap comparison between the light saber fights with kenobi and prequels was a swing and a miss

@willbeard4835

2 жыл бұрын

@@Krapvag I personally love the prequels. Only big issue I had with them was Anakin's turn didn't really have a catalyst. Like padme cheating or standing trial for killing the sand people. Other than that I still enjoy them

@ciege7486

2 жыл бұрын

@@Krapvag can you seriously not tell the difference between well choreographed light saber duels and the absolute drudgery that Disney have been putting out? Because say what you will of the prequels, the duels in those films were God damn amazing.

@BirdsElopeWithTheSun09

2 жыл бұрын

The prequels don't feel like Star Wars to me much at all, The Force Awakens and The Mandalorian feel WAY more like Star Wars.

When I watched that RLM video myself, I thought, "this is bad enough to be a solid video for an EFAP episode. It's so dense with weird and confusing takes." And lo and behold, here we are.

@TrueGamer22887

2 жыл бұрын

No, it is dense with people who arnt sjw outrage culture spergs talking about a television show

If this was someone's intro to RLM then man.... A bad first impression

Dave Filoni bugs the ever-living Hell out of me cuz he just does whatever he wants and "doesn't like being put in a box" like, shit dude, don't write for a fucking box then. Or be an actual writer/creator and create your own box.

@danielpayne7140

2 жыл бұрын

Or do what Taiki is claiming he's going to do with his Star Wars project and make a new box in the already existing box. The fictional box in question is a galaxy and yet people like Filoni keep adding stickers and tearing down walls and gluing random bullshit into the same space to the point we have one corner of this stupid box metaphor that is warped and soggy and crumbling to shit rather than a beautiful cohesive mural.

@gottesurteil3201

2 жыл бұрын

Filoni has some great ideas that added to the rich cast of characters and some great world building, but it's clear the good examples were not intended to fit in star wars, but only by coincidence did it work out.

RLM are starting to get more and more jaded with everything. So maybe this is one of those situations where they hate everything so much and have watched so many best of the worst movies that the bar is so much lower and they are grading on a curve. Something literally has to be a David Lynch level arthouse mind trip before Jay breaks out a positive comment. And Mike seems to have been so broken by the epic decline of his beloved Star Trek that he seems checked out in general.

Rich Evans has lived long enough to see himself become the villain.

@Youarefatiamhandsome

2 жыл бұрын

Lol but bodying the prequels is based

@SumDumGy

2 жыл бұрын

I’m nearly convinced their review is trolling at this point.

@WayoftheFerret

2 жыл бұрын

When was he ever a hero?

@Youarefatiamhandsome

2 жыл бұрын

@@WayoftheFerret T. Malding prequelbrony

@happybirthdaypaulie8584

2 жыл бұрын

@@WayoftheFerret when he appeared on Ellen.

40:58 in the 2003 clone wars, grevious gets a moment to shine and he's really fucking good in that show; we see him displaying good military tactics and also his ability to take down jedi. two of the things that he does is he often tries to either make the jedi stressed out and scared before fighting them (see him vs ki adi mundi and 4 other jedi fight) along with using his sheer speed and strength to overwhelm them, or in the siege of coruscant, he tries to get the upper hand on them by surprising them. one of the things that's cool and leads to his downfall though is that since he has no connection to the force he can't really counter any force users, and if he's in a long drawn out fight the chances of him getting hit by say a force crush or something increases, he ends up getting severely weakened because he got cocky and tried to take on mace windu without the element of fear or surprise on his hands. but yeah grievous is cool, wish he had a bigger role in revenge of the sith.

@partypete2542

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly. Grevious was engineered to be surprise hit and overwhelm killer for Jedi. Long duration battles were his kryptonite. Which is why someone like kenobi who specialises in defence combat can drag him out and ends up being the one to drop him.

@TheNemesis432

2 жыл бұрын

Correct me if I'm wrong, but have the Jedi ever used the force to directly kill or incapacitate someone (bar Luke and Windu)? If not, when it seems what there is some kind of code which forbids the Jedi to use the force aggressively against a living being (since using force aggressively is a thing Sith do). That would explain why any other Jedi just didn't force crush Grievous sooner.

@blizzardregulus

2 жыл бұрын

I loved 2003 Grievous. Movie Grievous was such a disappointment. Barely in the film despite being so prominent in the promotional material.

@scottski02

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheNemesis432 Very rarely. From my observations, using the Force to directly harm living beings has always seemed very taboo for Jedi. Hence why things like Force-choking are always portrayed as Dark Side powers, and even Mace crushing Grievous's chest could be seen as a situational, morally-blurry example. I'd argue that's *why* Jedi carry lightsabers, beyond it being a very useful weapon, so they can engage in lethal force if needed without needing to use the Force to directly kill people.

@wakerobin9215

2 жыл бұрын

@@scottski02 that makes sense

I've always felt weird about RLM's raging hateboner for the preguels and how they will probably defend that position till their dying breath.

@duncanmcokiner4242

2 жыл бұрын

Well, people only gave a shit about them because of the Plinkett reviews. It put them on the map and now they've doubled down so many times they can't accept anything is worse than the Prequels.

@superjlk_9538

2 жыл бұрын

If they ever admitted they were wrong about the prequels, they’d lose all credibility

@samzilla567

2 жыл бұрын

When your brand was built on hating the Prequels, it's hard to retroactively admit there are worst things out there in comparison. Even RLM was hard pressed to admit how awful the Sequels were.

@krissuyx

2 жыл бұрын

@@duncanmcokiner4242 Maybe it put them on the map but it's definitely not the reason why EVERYONE likes them. They earned that by being likable.

@superjlk_9538

2 жыл бұрын

@@krissuyx it’s not why people like them, but it’s how most people found them. It’s what made them popular

In the rerelease, Lucas added a little sound effect to that head bonk because it was a joke. Implying that ALL stormtroopers are incompetent because ONE trooper bonked his head is crazy. Also acting like everything you see onscreen is purposeful to the narrative is equally crazy. I guess the disappearing knife in the throne room fight happened purposefully in-universe too...

4:05:30 It was me, Barry! I’m the one who assaulted Hawaiians, groomed… natives…, and kidnapped… someone. That was not me that’s you get help

"How come everyone that has terrible opinions always have horrible hairlines?!" - Wolf 2019

@superbusstarodub

2 жыл бұрын

-man who was bald

@JayJaycubbs

10 ай бұрын

He thinks The Force Awakens is better than the prequels. Of course he’d be one of them

@Super_Ammo

9 ай бұрын

Watching this after the xqc stuff makes this comment even funnier

@alexlee4154

7 ай бұрын

​@@superbusstarodub Cant have a bad hairline if you have no hairline

You know ever since rlm's Solo review. I've noticed a strange sorta spin they incorporate, while they seem to criticize an insulting movie. For instance, in Solo they say "finally, a Star Wars movie that takes place in the universe, but not centered around the mainstream canon." As if to please both sides of the fandom. However, the reality is that Solo sucked and no spin will save it.

Luke: I can't believe he's gone Leia: I know, we're all going to miss him. He was a great jedi and a powerful ally...... he really didn't know how to hide a 10 year old child.

I'm listening to the episode in disbelief. Those are the guys that supposedly destroyed Prequels? Riiight

This episode demonstrates the value of EFAP. Going into great detail to make a point crystal clear instead of just saying “I’d rather watch a really bad, cringey, smaller-scaled fight than a big, less cringe, cgi one (honks clown nose)” and letting the audience try to parse whatever point is trying to be made.

@CamelotGaming

2 жыл бұрын

An hour long review that gets things done quick vs 9 hours of nitpicking.

@HerohammerStudios

2 жыл бұрын

@@CamelotGaming 1 hour of nothing feels like a far greater waste of time

@lukedavis1436

2 жыл бұрын

Red letter media are precise about their points, and don't need to say the same things for 9 hours straight. They also don't need to constantly pause and have five to six people on stream with them to basically recite the same opinions they all have. Their reviews are great because all of them have their own likes and dislikes and personal preferences. Efap just feels like an echo chamber where everybody kind of already has the same opinion.

@Party_Almsivi

2 жыл бұрын

@@lukedavis1436 If you think EFAP is an echo chamber, and RLM isn’t, then you clearly haven’t seen more than a handful of episodes. Are you Patrolling the comments of the guys who criticized the opinions of people you like? I hope not. That would be pretty cringe, gamer.

@Party_Almsivi

2 жыл бұрын

@@CamelotGaming So you haven’t watched one, got it.

Basically everything RLM says about Kenobi can be applied to Star Trek. What do you do with Picard? They had to make him stupid so he had space to grow. It was slow and awkward, so it's great!

@AnnaMarianne

2 жыл бұрын

RLM is done with Star Wars, they don't care any more so they don't take it seriously. Picard actually hurt them.

@BaldorfBreakdowns

2 жыл бұрын

@@AnnaMarianne OK. And? That makes their stupid arguments for Kenobi being okay, not apply to Star Trek somehow?

@TheMaleRei

2 жыл бұрын

The only, *ONLY* upside is that Mike ( think it was Mike) openly admitted that the defilement of Picard and company has started to have an affect / effect upon him - where he can't enjoy TNG as much as before (or not at all). Mike appreciates what a lot of Star Wars have been experiencing - which, if I'm not mistaken, he was gleeful about in the past.

@BaldorfBreakdowns

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheMaleRei I'm not sure how this comment relates to anything.

@TheMaleRei

2 жыл бұрын

@@BaldorfBreakdowns It's schadenfreude.

I used to be a huge RLM fan. I don't hate them but they lost something a few years ago. Maybe they are burnt out or maybe they have turned into different people. I suspect this all stems from their success and friendships with human debris like Patton Oswalt.

@Daxinar0

7 ай бұрын

Yeah, Patton sucks for sure. He was fine in that episode but as a person he's a piss soaked pool noodle.

Their video on Kenobi was very consooooooomer of them. Except Jay who clearly went to that studio expecting to shit on the show.

@qaztim11

2 жыл бұрын

Jay being visibly confused by the reactions of Rich and Mike was the best part of the video.

@reek4062

Жыл бұрын

@The Rotten💯 Most people watch Star Wars because they want to be entertained; they want a fun adventure with likeable characters. Most people don't give a sh!t aboot the star wars canon. I don't care either, because the star wars canon is ridiculous.

@davehiggens3827

Жыл бұрын

​@@reek4062 I hate to show up months late, but the show wasn't fun adventure with likeable characters. It's a contrived fanfiction of a plot with terrible representations of the characters involved.

@reek4062

Жыл бұрын

@@davehiggens3827 I love the show for baiting prequel fans

Valiant as Jay's defense of Leia's reactions in ep4 are, i think he has forgotten a rather important fact about OT Leia : She is not, in fact, a 'Leader' at that point. She's a 19-year old child of a politician acting as a courier for HER superiors within the rebel alliance. Her reactions only make sense IF you buy Disney's new narrative of her as the leader of the rebel alliance basically since birth... which, unfortunately, is not supported by the narrative of the Ot trilogy in any way. At no point in the OT is she shown in a position of any real authority within the rebel alliance. Personally i think the problem with RLM is Rich went in badly wanting to like this because of his clear intense dislike of the prequel trilogy. Which, fine, the movies aren't good... but he's doing a lot of weird mental gymnastics to talk himself into liking this simply because of what he perceives as attempts to fix problems within the prequels... to the point where he doesn't seem to actually be paying attention to the story he's watching, his mind is entirely wrapped up in what's happening in the moment as it related to what he hated in the prequels which is a shame, i like Rich Evans. But sometimes he just has these weird emotional blindspots that makes him incapable of criticizing what's in front of him. Mike clearly just doesn't give a fuck, and seems more concerned with not saying anything that gets him sucked into the twitter debate (which says a lot about this show in and of itself), and Jay, who's never been a big Star Wars fan anyway, clearly see the nonsense unfolding before him for what it is. If this show had no connection to Star Wars, everything that's happening is utter gibberish.

@xentiment6581

2 жыл бұрын

Leia has ben idolized to ridiculous degree, probably because it fits *T H E M E S S A G E*

@Umcarasemvideo

2 жыл бұрын

He also has a very wrong idea of what handling death well is. Moving on as if nothing happened isn't handling it well, it's actually extremely unhealthy and immature. Grieving is a normal, healthy and important part of dealing with death. If we need to show that Leia took Obi-Wans death well then we still need a moment were she composes herself before going to confort Luke, at the very least so we know she's leaving the mourning for when she's safe otherwise it only looks like she didn't know him or didn't care for him at all.

@Edax_Royeaux

2 жыл бұрын

@@Umcarasemvideo In a critical military battle, there's no time to grieve. We don't see Leia grieve for the death of her family that happened not hours ago, we don't need to see her grieve for Obi-Wan either if she's not going to grieve for Alderaan.

@petriew2018

2 жыл бұрын

@@Edax_Royeaux that whistling noise you just heard was the point zipping over your head in the OT, Luke is the one who has the intense personal reaction to Kenobi's death. If you were to attempt to watch star wars chronologically, the fact that Leia, who should be all rights have the more intense reaction because a childhood friend of hers just dies, is acting like this is all a minor inconvenience.... what we do or don't need to see is beside the point, what the movie does show us becomes bizarre and out of place narratively The damage this nonsense does to the continuity of star wars is staggering, both in it's scale and it's incompetence...

@Edax_Royeaux

2 жыл бұрын

@@petriew2018 Leia would have a larger connection to her parents. They died very close to when Obi-Wan died, so it makes sense Obi-Wan, someone she knew as a child for a few days, would not take precedence.

I'm still thinking back to when RLM said Force Awakens was good. And the several Plinkett reviews of Star Wars sequels that he spent bitching about either weird obscure conspiracy theories, or saying the prequels were just as bad and then talking about that way too long.

I love RLM, but I never consider their opinion on the prequels as anything more than something to laugh at. They're so extremely biased against those movies that it's honestly not even possible for me to take them seriously when they say shit like this, just laugh and move on.

@wephilips6651

Жыл бұрын

I don’t see how their weird take on Obi wan in any invalidates what they said like a decade ago about 3 trashy and objectively badly written movies. The prequel redemption is fucking embarrassing and can only be forgiven if people are basing it off nostalgia. It’s a sign of how bad movies are now but every single criticism they made in those videos is spot on. If the prequels were made now efap etc would absolutely rip it shreds

@ModifyBankai

Жыл бұрын

@@wephilips6651 Objectively they're bad movies of course, but they're goddamn masterpieces when you put them next to shit like the last jedi, or the rise of palpatine, or the mandolarian, or the book of boba fett, or the obi wan kenobi show, or etc etc Also re-watch the plinkett reviews, they actually make some really fucking stupid arguments along with great ones, and the stupid ones are coming from their bias against the movies. You would have to know nothing about RLM if you don't know about their extreme bias against the prequels. Like come on, if you told them to name one good thing from the prequels they'd probably refuse to answer the question.

2:29:00 He was torturing Han, so Luke would feel his friends are in danger and come to the rescue. He said when he got back to Leia "They did not even ask any questions". Reason is to cause suffering to alert Luke, so it was on purpose too.

@antraxxslingshots

2 жыл бұрын

...i should have let them finish a sentence i guess :(

"Obi Wan Kenobi is only a prequel if you interpret it that why." - Bilbo Quintons

2:21:30 You can do fight scene without Vader directly using the fire. Imagine a scene were Obi Wan is fighting Vader, and he is loosing because of how Vader's fight style is completely different from Anakin´s. Then for some reason or another, they end up on a building that is burning or something. And Vader, thanks to his suit, can withstand the fire and heat without any problem, but Obi Wan is really struggling in this situation, while also fighting this powerful and merciless monster.

@AimlessSavant

2 жыл бұрын

I take omage from Genndy Tartakovsky and imagine a scene with Kenobi backed towards the fire, and Vader blending into the darkness surrounding the fire. Coming from the dark to strike and then fall back. Then have it end with Vader jumping from the flames behind kenobi with an overhead strike. Show has no imagination.

@samwallaceart288

2 жыл бұрын

Have it where Obi-Wan is flustered and sweating bullets in between dodging flames and dealing with a much stronger more aggressive Vader, while Vader is just completely removed and unfazed by the situation. But then Vader seems to lose his composure and Ben takes the chance to escape to protect Leia. Later on we find out that Vader had to stop because despite his posturing, his life support has indeed been melted by the heat, and he quietly repairs his outer shell, trying to act like this means nothing about his supposed impervion to outer forces. Yknow. 3 seconds of meaningful introspection. Would've been nice.

@gleekthemonkey4570

2 жыл бұрын

That’s stupid. Obi Wan getting face planted into fire is way better and raw.

@joesmutz9287

Жыл бұрын

Another alternative: They're still evenly matched. Vader is weaker in the force but physically stronger both thanks to the cybernetics. So they fight to a stalemate until the Stormtroopers intervene and Obi Wan is forced to run It would be easy to make external factors prevent a true resolution, or pull Vader's butt out of the fire to maintain Obi Wan still being the Master without just walking away to allow Vader to kill more people

My conclusion is that Mike and Rich like Kenobi cause it reminds them of the bad TNG episodes (cheap, awkward, goofy), which are still better than Picard. That's just the vibe I get.

So glad you guys EFAPed this. Watching that RLM video I thought I was having a stroke. I love those hack frauds but that has got to be their worst take since Jay's opinion of Joker.

@jordanjacksonshouseofhorrors

2 жыл бұрын

The idea of a “bad take” makes me want to vomit. Your feelings got hurt because someone didn’t like a movie you liked. How embarrassing

@Trisket

2 жыл бұрын

@@jordanjacksonshouseofhorrors okay, calm down there buddy.

@jordanjacksonshouseofhorrors

2 жыл бұрын

@@Trisket thrilling retort, full of insight. Yuck, shut up

@SK008

2 жыл бұрын

@@Trisket I don't even want to watch Kenobi.. I am watching it through EFAP.. but if RLM liked it, I don't think it's that big of a deal.. they did criticise it to an extent.. so I wouldn't say it's a deal breaker

@justinbotkin

2 жыл бұрын

​@@jordanjacksonshouseofhorrors so you're ridiculing someone for having what you deem a disproportionate negative reaction by saying it "makes you want to vomit"? Tell me you have the ability to see how ironic this is.

One thing I've always loved about the Milwaukee hack frauds is that even if I completely disagree with their opinions they are honest. I've never sat thinking "these guys are paid off".

@gleekthemonkey4570

2 жыл бұрын

I really don’t think studios pay off critics. Has that claim ever been substantiated?

@guldamar6782

2 жыл бұрын

@@gleekthemonkey4570 I know that there have been a few scandals on KZread. Betterhelp and Candid spring to mind. They aren't related to movie studios but it's not that much of leap to consider it as a possibility. Seriously it doesn't need to be direct cash in hand. I think people get caught up in the notion that a manager is directly telling reviewers what to say. Sponsorship deals have a form of implied control i.e. "we will pull our funding if you don't toe the line". RLM have never really openly spoken about this topic before. It would be interesting to hear their thoughts (and EFAP too)

@gleekthemonkey4570

2 жыл бұрын

@@guldamar6782 RLM have blindly thrown that accusation before and I thought it was dumb as well. Sponsors for a youtube video is different from a review where the product in question is getting reviewed. Like I doubt the hollywood reporter is getting paid off by Disney. If they were, why would they be breaking news and shit before Disney could announce it? Until there's some big scandal, I'll just assume that someone has a diffferent opinion from me before just assuming they were paid off.

@pirig-gal

2 жыл бұрын

@@gleekthemonkey4570 Not directly, no. "Swaying critics opinion" is often done by inviting them to early screenings (together with paying for their accommodations - often in a good hotel), gifting them swag related to the movie/franchise, etc. This builds an expectation of "returning the favour" - in other words, writing a glowing review or at least going easy on them when writing. It's done with video games as well. And, also, there's also a stick to the carrot. Some reviewers, that don't budge and can't be easily swayed, will not be given early copies/ screenings. I've seen it happen a number of times, where a reviewer won't be invited to these things because "they're a wildcard".

Mike literally said he felt like he was watching a shitty cheap tv show and felt guilty about enjoying it. Somehow people interpret that as him saying it’s a masterpiece

@matthew5226

2 жыл бұрын

I tuned in, skipped around a bit, and then heard the part where Mike jokes "I think George Lucas would have approved" as a silly joke at the expense of both Obi Wan and George Lucas. And then the EFAP crew just kind of take that comment completely seriously and roll with it... Yeah, it reminded me why the format of using slow, unfocused 9 hour videos to go line-by-line on a fast-paced 30 minute conversation really wore off on me.

@gwimbly519

2 жыл бұрын

@@matthew5226 I honestly don't get the appeal. Even as background noise there are so much better things out there lol. Why listen to a few autistic people critique a 40 minute review of a movie for 9 hours

@superbusstarodub

2 жыл бұрын

@@matthew5226 It does get tedious

Knew this was coming as soon as i watched Rthe RLM video

why couldn't vader feel through the force that she was not dead when he was less then a meter away from her? So he can feel obi one through million miles away literally but he couldn't feel reevah when she was a meter away ? lol?

Naughty EFAP, you can’t call Maul’s death bad, because he was bisected either above or below the stomach. Josef Mengele concluded back in the 40s that ruining the stomach like a grandma is the only way to kill something…

@AimlessSavant

2 жыл бұрын

The angel of death..

@xentiment6581

2 жыл бұрын

Mauls real death is way better because of his story in Clone Wars and Rebels. Him surviving is ridiculous but its a fair trade tbh.

@laisphinto6372

2 жыл бұрын

it isnt, maul made ressurections Mainstream and he wasnt established to be powerful in the force or knowledgeable enough to pull off such feats

@Urbaninjaq

2 жыл бұрын

Sure, it's a stretch. But sith surviving through sheer anger has been explored before in legends. And how they used him in rebels and clone wars was amazing. There were consequences to his psyche for survivg that and his end in rebels was much less unceremonious than in phantom menace. He didn't effect the canon as bad as sideous surviving and actually made star wars better for it. The problem is when they start making people survive all the time, not justifying it, and then doing nothing with the characters. Essentially maul should be an exception. Too bad they think they can do it all the time now.

@user-xx6vy9ri8p

Жыл бұрын

And even then not a guarantee...

Fun fact: Anakin spent the first 23 years of his life as himself and the last 23 years of his life as darth vader. Evidence. He's 9 in the phantom menace add 10.5 years for the attack of the clones he's 19 and a half and the clone wars goes on for 3.5 years so when we catch up with Anakin at the end of the revenge of the sith he's 23. 19 years pass until a new hope another 3 for empire strikes back and a final year for return of the jedi making darth vader live ( if we count both as different people ) as 23 until Anakin kills him and the emperor and dying a few hours later in luke's arms as Anakin Skywalker once again only at 46 ( his body's age and also since Anakin never truly died just majorly suppressed by darth vader and palpitine.)

Haven't watched the whole thing yet but I'm gonna guess that their take(s) is the result of someone being checked out and not invested in something anymore but still being obligated to engage with it. Edit: The gist I'm getting from them is "Yeah its not very good, but I still like it cuz I don't care."

@qaztim11

2 жыл бұрын

Pretty much. Mike and Rich were mindbroken by pickard season 1 and especially 2. And are loving the fact that Kenobi is generic, cheap looking, mediocre and goofy compared to the dumpsterfire that was pickard. Jay was just there but not there, liking some parts of it but also being visibly confused as to why Mike and Rich enjoyed the show to the extent they did.

@purpleemerald5299

2 жыл бұрын

It’s not the prequels, so it’s automatically mediocre to them.

@capthavic

2 жыл бұрын

@@qaztim11 It just feels weird to hear them still critical of the prequels yet giving Kenobi a free pass with the justification of they don't give a shit. Like okay, you can feel that way but I don't know why I'd listen to your opinion then if that's all it comes down to.

2:22:00 Fights are character moments. The reason characters have to fight and the moves they use are inductive of their personalities and experiences.

30 mins in and Rags can't stop browsing furry fetishists and pay attention

@xentiment6581

2 жыл бұрын

Average rags moment tbh

@kevinkerwin4118

2 жыл бұрын

@@xentiment6581 That's disappointing.

😂 RLM are such hacks now their entire process of Star Wars is “yes this is shitty but at least it’s not the prequels”. Like this shit is such low effort TV and they have to pretend to thinks it’s decent simply because they don’t want to mess with their brand.

@JATION

2 жыл бұрын

They got us into this mess, they have to pretend that it's not that bad. kzread.info/dash/bejne/X5lrt9KfZsydlKg.html

@JATION

2 жыл бұрын

@Marcus Fenix OT did not have preestablished story to continue. It is a very different situation.

@randalthekidd7006

2 жыл бұрын

@Marcus FenixI mean it’s because it’s unnecessary and unneeded context for the story. How does the Palpatine origin aid the original trilogy if it’s shoved in? It really doesn’t, it doesn’t change the emperor at all. The sequels need to explain because we are following the continuation of the story. The story was established and so you can’t be general or vague it needs to line up. First order makes no sense because of how the empire fell. OT doesn’t need that stuff because the entire thing doesn’t need anymore context then it gave. Prequels can add context later but the OT was perfectly fine. An evil empire controlled by an evil empire that wants to enslave the galaxy. That didn’t change after the prequels we just got added context. The sequels literally go “yeah nothing in real Star Wars 1-6 matters and we won’t try to connect it” So the OT is fine for being general especially since the story was less complicated overall. Lucas wanted to have the context of the prequels to make the story even more Amazing and he succeeded which is why they are milking the shit kenobi show. Not every story needs to be more complicated but if you are going to do that you need to make it line up as best as you can with the original product

I seriously have had a hard time trying to catch up on your Boba Fett -> Kenobi reactions. Not because I dislike them, but because it just hurts so much to see something I love so destroyed. I finally managed to get through Boba Fett the other day, but ep 2 of Kenobi I had to stop part 3/4 of the way through because I was getting too angry at what they were doing to Kenobi. I'll give it a day and try again, but goddamn even with your guys jokes it hurts.

Jay Bauman sits through this whole thing just trying to bring some sense into the early onset dementia that he's surrounded by.

In this episode, Rags says a Titanic joke! It went far… just not in the way you would expect.

@alesksander

2 жыл бұрын

His yoke really tanked hard... :D I m sorry. I will go away now...

@sparkypack

2 жыл бұрын

🚢🐕

@TheL0ngbeard

2 жыл бұрын

Just like Titanic, the joke didn't quite make it...

@steffanyschwartz7801

2 жыл бұрын

It really hit hard

@gottesurteil3201

2 жыл бұрын

And that's just the tip of the iceberg.

Vader running after Obi Wan is like the clone wars, making characters fight and escape, just so it doesn't mess up the movies. Like "oh no! General grievous vs Obi Wan! How is this going to go down?"

1:40:59 They also built a literal nearly to scale titantic model to act on. Silly rags.

its fun to listen to this, listening to two different generations of fans and their opinions on what they consider good or bad, is always fun. You can tell Mike and Rich have been done with Star Wars for quite sometime, and that Jay is just a casual to it all. It just sucks, because it feels like both Star Wars and Trek fans are taking Ls lately with the lackluster content on both sides of the fanbase.

@Edax_Royeaux

2 жыл бұрын

If they have no motivation to make these videos, then RLM shouldn't make them. What difference is there between RLM and the corporations if they put out soulless videos like this just to solely cash in? It's like if RLM tries to review anime at this point.

@willfanofmanyii3751

2 жыл бұрын

@@Edax_Royeaux To remind their fanboys "Prequels bad!".

@Delta169

2 жыл бұрын

@@Edax_Royeaux I see you're copy and pasting this throughout the comment section.

@Edax_Royeaux

2 жыл бұрын

@@Delta169 Because a lot of the comments are saying the same thing. "Don't you see, RLM are broken men, so of course they can put out shit now" - Paraphrasing.

As a long time fan of EFAP I often hear them say 'it's okay to just enjoy something, even if that thing is objectively bad' and here we have RLM just sorta casually riffing on Diznoid Obi-Wan because they don't really care and finding little bits of real (unironic) enjoyment in something they obviously think is overall cheap, poor quality spectacle...and it seems like this REALLY annoys EFAP; EFAP seems to demand that they MUST objectively analyse and trash the show like they themselves are doing. Nope. Don't get me wrong, I don't like this trash show either, and I've enjoyed EFAP ripping into it...but its not wrong to find plenty of enjoyment in watching a crap show/film. RLM do that all the time on their channel.

@R0CKDRIG0

2 жыл бұрын

I always took "it's okay to enjoy something" as that no one can force you away from consuming something you enjoy, not that your opinion is un-criticizable. For someone with a big audience, especially, it's important that their opinions get scrutinized.

@godjam4

2 жыл бұрын

@@R0CKDRIG0 Well, yes and no; I have no problem with scrutinizing 'Obi-Wan was a boring character' because that seems like a piss-poor hot-take and should be called out on. However 'I like that its cheap' is, to me, uncritique-able because...what can you even do with that? It's like 'yeah, I like low budget/cheesy/found-footage' or whatever; you can't critique it until its QUANTIFIED; finding the big juicy 'why' behind it. And to me, having seen what Picard did to Mike and Rich, I understand their need to just chill and spout -off about something they really don't have the energy to critique in-depth. And I find EFAP's annoyance at their lack of same to be disappointing. :/

Reva: plants a tracker Reva when they try to escape(she wanted that, that's what the tracker is for): Get'em! Hmmmm🤨

@LadyDemonSlayer

2 жыл бұрын

Much as I don't want to defend Reva, if she let them leave without opposition, it would be way too suspicious. And I wouldn't trust Disney to not to put those thoughts into 10 year old Leia's mouth because iT'S a rEFerENcE to the OT and how Leia's ALWAYS been this way, even at the amazing age 10.

@canaldecasta

2 жыл бұрын

@@LadyDemonSlayer They were already getting away with their trenchcoats for some reason. Just dont reach them or something idk Also, what if they get killed during the crossfire. Those werent warning shots. My head hurts.

@Lalle524

2 жыл бұрын

@@LadyDemonSlayer Imagine having a child imprisoned on a different planet to her rescuers, in a fortress, in a cell, defended by thousands of elite soldiers and Darth Vader's Inquisition. And planting a tracker just in case. Dedication.

@fredriklandin

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah put a tracker on the princess.. wounder where she will be goin.. oh she went back to another castle.. Oh well atleast i tried right vader? I can has cheezburger.. No reva you have failed me for last time. So much stupid

@rhyscallinan2881

2 жыл бұрын

Especially since she walked there. She could be stayed back and let them go. She initiated combat when she didn't even need to if she had planned to track them.

Honestly at this point I think RLM have bought into their own meme that they were somehow responsible for how shit the sequels were, or that the plinkett reviews caused this Disney induced fracture in the Star Wars fandom. Now they don't want to give any legitimate criticism to Star Wars content anymore even if it's capital T TRASH. Their whole commentary so far (about 4 hours into this) strikes me as painfully forced positivity to the point where it's almost a joke in and of itself. It's funny because they were willing to point out that Rogue One was completely redundant, which I wholeheartedly agree with. I suppose it can just be demoralizing to give unerringly negative reviews to each and every new piece of Star Wars that comes out. The thing is they keep coming out shit, so you could either be honest and say they're shit and just accept that so far pretty much 100% of Disney Wars has been shit, or be dishonest and smile through your teeth about how "It looks cheap and the acting is bad and the action scenes suck but that's why I like it!". It will still be shit and you would also be lying, which seems like it should suck even more than the alternative.

@Biggiiful

2 жыл бұрын

I like RLM but thier Star Wars takes are ultimately pretty bad. They hated Rogue One the most out of Disney stuff. I don't care if you like Rogue One or think it's good or not. Its still the best Disney Star Wars product by far.

@thorthewolf8801

2 жыл бұрын

@James Rocco decent? With it being ep 4.2 instead of ep 7?

@thorthewolf8801

2 жыл бұрын

@James Rocco I dont think so. I didnt even go see tlj after tfa. You know how you dont build a house on sand? A house on a bad foundation will also be bad.

Thanks for another great EFAP video. You all are very talented and I respect your points of view.

Get yourself a man who talks about you like Fringy talks about Shy Guy 💙

LOTR would have been infinitely better if all the budget had gone into a practical effect Balrog and the rest of the scenes were just sock puppets

The Jedi robes didn't become a thing with the prequels, they became a thing with Return of the Jedi

@darthdragonborn1552

2 жыл бұрын

And they were called Jedi robes in heir to the empire in 1991, so yeah it’s always definitely been a thing

@samwallaceart288

2 жыл бұрын

Luke wears a cloak in one scene but underneath it he wears an officer's suit. The tatooine-style pleated linen robes become a mainstay across all Jedi characters starting with Phantom Menace. Luke's outfit may or may not count as a robe but it's much closer to what everyone else wears than it is to the airy tatooine garb.

@kenkaneki3873

2 жыл бұрын

@@samwallaceart288 Lukes robe isn't what I'm talking about. It's the force ghost scene. All of them wear Jedi robes. Lukes robe is not an officer uniform, it's a jedi robe aswell, he just wears a dark robe like his father did.

@gottesurteil3201

2 жыл бұрын

@@kenkaneki3873 yeah Anakin's robe in RotS is certainly a callback to Luke's robe in RotJ. Both are more combat efficient for a young Jedi warrior.

@HerohammerStudios

Жыл бұрын

@@kenkaneki3873 oh yeah, huh. Really good point

I’m starting to have a change of heart, I think Picard is actually fine. It’s bad, but I like it, it’s like pop corn super okay show. At least it’s not as bad as Star Trek Nemesis, it’s super okay actually. Eh, who cares anyways, i give it a thumb, 7/10 worst show ever.

Remember when they reviewed Independence Day resurgence and they liked it more than the first? And they hate the first as well lol

I was disappointed in RLM's critique they went too easy on it.

Uncle Owen also wears the ‘Jedi robes’.

@gottesurteil3201

2 жыл бұрын

I always thought the alien with the elephant trunk and red goggles from a new hope looked like a sith.

2:29:25 Vader torchered Han to draw Luke to Cloud City. "My friends are in trouble and I have to help them." I think there was some connection implied in the OT between strong emotions and how that sent waves through the Force. Which would then be perceived by Force users.

@An_Actual_Rat

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, when Alderaan exploded it was the sudden sheer amount of panic courtesy of the population of the planet that Obi-Wan snapped up, not the planet itself disappearing.

Season 3 of The Boys still has frustrated me so far. I’d say the biggest issue is that characters just don’t act like they want to live or value their lives. They say and do stupid things right in front of people that would and could kill them and it just feels off.

Why are we talking about RLM? Shyguy is coming out!

I'm not sure why people are getting on RLM. They literally said that the reason they don't hate Kenobi is that the bar was set so low by shows things like Picard and the Sequel Trilogy.

@BirdsElopeWithTheSun09

2 жыл бұрын

They did makes some really bad arguments though, especially Rich.

@RAZGR1Z

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah but the point is Kenobi is just as bad as Picard and the ST.

@darthdragonborn1552

2 жыл бұрын

But Kenobi is arguably worse than the sequels, maybe not TROS but this is at least just as bad

@petriew2018

2 жыл бұрын

uh.... possibly because that is an extremely bizarre take from people who usually have much, much more substantive arguments for why they like or don't like certain things? Hearing a clearly intelligent and knowledgeable film buff like Rich Evans saying things like "i love it because of how cheap the whole thing looks" is really just weird...