8 Years later and this is still a fantastic video.

8:55 CROVISA is an spanish transformers producers. Made in UE means "Unión Europea", thats European Union in spanish.

It's 70W power iron, 140W or so peak. You need a big transformer for that.

These, as far as i know, are desinged and made in Barcelona, Spain, if anybody's curious. One of the few brands that we Spanish can be really proud of, hehe.

@fuertito6601

5 жыл бұрын

@Marcin Berman barcelona IS SPAIN

@gtm7713

4 жыл бұрын

@Marcin Berman If you say so...

@EduardoJurado

4 жыл бұрын

@Marcin Berman Some catalan people, not all. I'm from Barcelona and very proud to be Spaniard.

Mixed feelings (mostly due to overly high expectations) but overall I wish I had bought it years ago. It is an essential buy for anyone who solders anything to power planes. It works so fast on them it's scary (4 seconds versus 2 minutes in some cases). For small surface mount stuff it's good but there's nothing I couldn't already do with my WES51 with an extra second or two. Other stuff like quick tip change, better temp regulation are nice but nothing earth shatteringly amazing. contd:

@FooBar89

6 жыл бұрын

same here, the good feelings comes later when you need it :)

@krazykillar4794

3 жыл бұрын

Im a first timer, im either buying the the dual station with tweezers and precision iron , or I might buy them separately with the modular unit.

In Ireland the tips range from 15-25 euros, some speciality tips run a little more. If they are not abused they last way longer than the cheap ones and with the auto standby its hard to go wrong. I love it way better than my pace iron.

Nice teardown, I use this iron everyday! My favorite part about JBC irons is how quickly you can change tips.

I actually liked that quick teardown. You could make more of them, beacuse it sometimes gets a bit boring when you talk about the quality of solderjoints on a single bord for like a few minutes.

Beautiful station for sure! Might get one.

We use bunch of them at work (also have different generations of it) and never faced a firmware lock up!! It's best soldering station one can have :)

YES, I can barely wait to see a new video from Dave!

exactly! when I saw this video pop up in my front page I was like "NOOOOOOO you did NOT do that Dave!!" and then I remember that whatever you take apart, it will still work just as well when you put it back together. I love your videos! keep it up mate!

Love these Irons, would not trade mine for anything. Best $500 ish i have spent in a long time. Starting to retool my entire lab to JBC. The only thing better then this iron, is the larger version of this iron.

We get to use these in our labs. They really are great tools. Expensive, but well worth the money (imo). £365 atm. Don't know if they will last 20 years. But they are impressive and seem well made.

...”I don’t want to take the iron apart because that’ll surely destroy it”.... ....*flips around the loosely tightened integrated holder*...”hmmm did I break it? I don’t know hmmm” Absolutely love your channel. Will soon become your Patreon supporter!

Used to have a complete set of JBC rework/soldering kit. Brilliant stuff.

Thanks again Dave, I like your thorough knowledge based style. I have recently got an ATTEN AT397b,cost a whopping $ 36 inc postage - very simple in comparison, but am quite happy with it's performance ! Cheers mate & keep up the interesting work.

The DSP allows MP3 playback while soldering. :P

@BillAnt

4 жыл бұрын

And latest version also allows watching KZread on the LCD. xD

At 9:35 .. normallly you push the thing onto the tip but only softly to take it out as a first step, and then you press it into it via the big holes there (45, 10 10) really into the holder. Just in case it's not clear for someone.

Another great video! Thanks Dave!

Just received a JBC CD-S soldering iron (same principle as CD-2BB) and JBC CP Tweezers, to replace the crappy Ersa stations I have in the office. Those JBC stations are amazing concerning the heating power, heating speed, the handling and the overall quality. They are quite expensive, but allow to do a great job on SMD components like 0402 or even 0201. But for a not-intensive hobby use it doesn't make any sense, too expensive for using only a small part of its capabilities. A Weller would be a better choice in that case (not as good as the JBC, but high placed too).

It only takes a few seconds on the JBC to heat up to working temp from cold.

Best teardowns on youtube!

As a software dev who works in the embedded market, you made me chuckle when you said "bloody software". We say the same about systems guys. lol

cool!

Thanks for the video. As usuall, very informative :-) Cheers from Poland! :-)

I got a JBC 30S, nice iron only a little bit under powered, I also have a Weller SI-75 for the bigger connections/wires, both doing there job.

I have one. And it is worth the money. My favorite tool on my bench.

@foxyrollouts

7 жыл бұрын

$550 on special at moment

Safety is the main reason low voltage is used. It definitely has temperature control.

Remind me of those table-top telephones. There so light that they have to put lead weights in them to give them that feel and to make them stable on the table. The microphone on my ham radio is the same way.

I just checked. That is a real CE mark, not a China Export mark. Measure the C from top to bottom outside diameter. Then measure the C from left to right. If the C was drawn as a full circle then it would intersect the E, just before the E's little center leg. I hope that made sense.

I have been considering upgrading my soldering station. I have looked at the JBC among others. But I'm probably going to purchase the Hakko FX-951. This is due to the difference in price between the two. The 951 can be had for about 250-300 dollars. From what I can tell the unit has the same type of features, including the integrated heater tip setup for quicker heating and recovery.

@UndercastEsmeganitrospeed

7 жыл бұрын

You can buy this one for 390€ and if you really search for it 350€

Not everyday you see a Spanish quality product like that. You should mention it in the review :)

Just a note, the Hakko 951 has a separate stand and the iron sensing stand, maybe you should try and snag one of those for review, also the higher end precision jbc irons have the separate stands and iron sensor

Those PICs have an internal PLLl Clock referenced from that external crystal, the core is probably running at about 70Mhz

I watch this video, I get amazed at the quality, I want to build something similar and then I remember that I am an idiot without money and can't do such stuff.

Gracias! Desgraciadamente JBC no se molesta en poner su origen en ninguna parte. Tienes que ver donde están los "Headquarters" para saber que son Españoles...

8:40 UE means "Unión Europea" in spanish (in english, European Union (EU)). That's because Crovisa is a spanish company.

Thanks for your videos ...

I also planned on a similar project once.If you like Arduino, have a look at Arduino PID library. it can be used for temperature controlling. I trust switching power supply should be work as well as a linear supply.

Lower impedance for the high current. Rule of thumb is typically 0.5A per via. or half that to be in the conservative side.

I work with JBC T210 & T245. LOVE IS.

Well microcontrollers can be reliable, if it has a reserve. My Takser-E (Made in Estonia, was used as remote reader for electrical meters) is based on a microcontroller with erasing window and it still works from 1995.

The Jabe version is excellent, been driving it daily and not a fart or sneeze, brill, love the PRC

contd: That's my perspective as a designer/prototyper. But anyone involved in production should buy one (or more!) without giving a second thought to it. For production use it makes anything else look like garbage.

@ 14:42. I would not call that 4MHz lousy. Take a look at the PLL in that dsPIC chip.

I haven't tried the D version of that yet.

Maybe 4 to 8 seconds depending on the size of the tip. I had one at my old job, really nice irons I must say.

The dsPIC is great for PWM control - lots of built in routines.

Interesting your take on Hakko not lasting. My 926 was purchased new in 1989 and the plastic body fell to pieces (brittle) after being used every day in my electronics repair shop. I rehoused the electronic control pcb & txformer in an hand made polished aluminium case held together with 316 stainless hex head m6 bolts. It is still operating perfectly 31 years on. Don't think just because you forked over a heap of cash for something it is necessarily that much better. Some things just aren't.

Also, for some reason while writing to the internal EEPROM, all non-hardware implemented operations in the PIC are halted until it is done writing to the EEPROM. For example if you do a software PWM for LED control, when you write to the EEPROM your LEDs will turn off for 100 to 200 ms. When it's done, everything resumes. Reading does not give you any problems.

We actually just got one of these at work... unfortunately, the supervisor was under the impression that it was a 130watt iron, in fact, as you've just said, it is a 70watt, and as a result performs very similarly to the 70watt hakko irons we already had... Another thing to note, with the temperature set to 350 degrees, the tip temperature was actually 380.... which also explains how it appears to work so well with the temperature set relatively low...

@tunahankaratay1523

5 жыл бұрын

I think the problem might be with the cold junction compansation. The sensor might be faulty and giving a 0 degree value so when the iron is at 350 degrees it understands that it is at 320 degrees or so.

Where can I find the review on this? I'm unable to find it using the search on your channel!

do you have review about weller wsd81 and do you think there is posible way to convert the iron to a hakko hand pies

Looks like a dam nice iron! But im with you about all the digital control. Ive got an old Weller unit ive had since i was a kid and moved from using the cheap $20 irons upto something better. And few times when i have been working on something when its been live and ive bumped it on the wrong thing or something and got a nice spark on the iron tip. And well the simple temp switch in the old unit couldnt care less. But one wonders how well a digitally controlled unit would go in that situation

14:40 The dsPIC has a PLL Dave. A 4MHz XTAL will let it run at 40MIPS. There's no internal EEPROM either.

im looking for the same thing and stumbled on this channel. I Watch a few vids out of order and was hooked. But watching them sequentially, Now it just looks like videos for the hell of it. Though he does make vids one can learn off every now and then.

Its all good man, I do enjoy the vids.

And your verdict?

Will these soldering stations take both the T245 and C210 handles or do you have to buy separate machines for each handle, like the Aihun soldering stations, I fuckkk up and had to buy the two stations.

He put it back together later, I would assume. Did you not hear him say it was his best soldering iron?

What else can i say ? Thank Dave it's Tuesday, Thumbs up. At a first glance they look a bit cheap on the outside, but they are clearly serious good quality tools :)

can i connect a thermotweezers to it?

como puedo reiniciar mi estacion si he cambiado erroneamente el pin ? espero puedan ayudarme

Almost 3 years and still no review!

Sir, the Jbc station wich work with T245 handle and cartdrige, work also witn T210 handle and cartdrige??

@avsararas

4 жыл бұрын

yes

Would you still recommend the hakko fx888 for a beginner to intermediate

It's possible the PIC is using the internal PLL, and not just running at the 4MHz that the oscillator is running at. However, I agree, why do you need all the horsepower of a dsPIC?

I buy JBC CD-2BE and try to work, it's super tool, unbelievable tool!!!

Perhaps they use a linear supply because it is heavier and thus less likely to tip over. It also helps sales when a $400 soldering station has some heft.

Hello Dave can you explain to me why do i have ground pin (similar to your soldering iron )on oscilloscope.Its old russian osciloscope C1-94 if you want to take a look.There is 2 wire power input the live wire(Brown,Black) and neutral(Blue) but there is no ground wire(Yellow-Green) from wall socket.Thank you for answer

Did they use a JBC CD-2BB to put this together do you think :-)

I found out the company that makes this is based in Spain; Barcelona, to be precise.

I have a cheapie from mcm electronics, for $39.00. It heats up super fast but it dosen't have a sleep feature. Electronics is just a hobby for me now, so that's all I need.

Hello Dave i want to make my own soldering staton with PIC microcontroler, is it good solution to make switching power supply for soldering iron project or i shuld stick with linear one?

Crovisa is a spanish company and in Spain is quite common that foreign words (Made in "country/union") tend to be "adapted" in a fancy way and UE stands for "Unión Europea" and that's perfectly fine in spanish. spanglish is not something releated just to the US ahah

It is via-stitching. You have parallel coppers that have electrically same net connection. You connect them with as much as vias you can so that they are like one trace.

JBC is a spanish brand, like Crovisa (for the transformer)

CROVISA transformers is a very common brand here in Spain

DAVE... Earth grounding goes first throught the tape becouse it is connected to soldering tip throught this big white SMD fuse mounted on the board. Best regards, Krzysztof

nice video thx

JBC and Spanish transformer. I love the PIC too :D We fail one more time: "Made in UE", oh c'mon Crovisa...

@gjergjkastro9404

3 жыл бұрын

They forget translating U.E. to E.U.

Have you tried metcal? How do you feel about it?

Should the buttons screw up after 20 years (which no replacements available), could you drill holes in the PCB and put in miniature discrete push buttons? Speaking of which, I would like you to design a standard touch-tile button circuit that could be configured for push-on-push-off, N.O. and N.C. It should reject RF and trash. The touch timing should be adjustable to require a definite and intentional touch (rejecting accidental brushes). A label display in the lighted tile would be great.

Another great teardown vid. I wonder if Dave moved away from Hakko irons because of his apparent disgust at the arse-backwards digital controls on the FX-888D :)

Strata Title (it's on Wikiepdia) is the type of ownership on the building I'm in. I'm on the strata committee, so I have occasional meeting to attend.

The videos have always been "random". That was the original concept of the channel.

Still kinde new with microcontroler and programing this will be my first prject :) i started with pic and still learning but will also like to learn and arduino

The DSPic is problably used as a PID controller!

if you prefer the detached holder, why not build one? you could have a look at how the automatic shutdown feature works and hack it to work wirelessly, or even not use it at all.

I know why you like the JBC - it as a PIC inside! I personally own the Ersa i-con 1, and it has an atmega128 inside. :P

JBC Tools doesn’t seem to have a Wikipedia page and their website can’t even tell you where they are headquartered. You’d think that if they are so respected I’d be able to easily check their Wikipedia page to find out if they are American or not (Barcelona, Spain, apparently). Their own site’s “About Us” just calls them a “Global Company” and can’t even tell you where they were founded. Unreal!

@adredy

3 ай бұрын

Barcelona , tell me why is so expensive cost of prduction must be max 30$

I mean, why cant you just power it from the 230V? And one more thing, you do they regulate the power to the iron (temperature control)?

errr sorry my mistake the 120V version is CD-1BC

Sure, if that's what he wants to do, good on him. I would not however recommend it to others.

it is all heat resistant plastic enclosure?

it would be great if the back-lit light would color follow the tip temperature

How come there is a100v and 120v? Version? BTW: the CD-B Series is $490

Question: Can the JBC CD-2BQE soldering station work with a T210 soldering iron or does it work only with a T245?

@erhandemir90

3 жыл бұрын

t210 and t245 works on this station

well i think your sense wire is in the thread of the holder bolt :)