Omg the soldering on that icl8069

@meowcula

6 жыл бұрын

i was kind of surprised he didn't mention it!

@DaveF.

6 жыл бұрын

Glad it wasn't just me - it was shocking.

@EEVblog

6 жыл бұрын

That's not uncommon with through hole parts, just variability in the hand soldering. The other side was fine, the solder just didn't flow through on two pins.

@vant4888

6 жыл бұрын

M-m-m... a good old Intercil :)

@markevans2294

6 жыл бұрын

Guessing hand soldering also explains some of the surface mount components being a little crooked.

Looked good here even at a humble 480 resolution. The zoom detail was very good, as was the full video which must have taken a long time to put together.

@EEVblog

6 жыл бұрын

Just the usual amount of time to shoot and edit, apart from Vegas crashing on me 10 times

@gavincurtis

6 жыл бұрын

Yeah, Vegas does that on me too. My last video I put the Alienware laptop on the deck when it was 10 below. It processed the 4K video no problem that time.. 15 minute processed in just under 45 minutes without fire.

@ElmerFuddGun

6 жыл бұрын

The actual zooming in at 6:08 just didn't look smooth to me. And when you slow the video to 0.25x you can see it jump stepping the zoom more than it should for the frame rate. 30 fps x 0.25 = 7.5 fps but it seemed like about half that number of steps while zooming. I did expect this to be in 25 fps for Australia though? Was it recorded at 25 and processed and uploaded at 30 fps? IDK...

@tbbw

6 жыл бұрын

Well... Maybe iPad 12 will provide us with a clive bench explosion in 4k for entertainment purposes... Oh the wait... :)

watching your old teardowns after watching this 4K one is like day and night. the video is so crisp and sharp

That zoom in was pretty awesome!

Superb quality video from your Sony 4K camera Dave. The audio is a bit 'bass light' but nothing you wouldn't expect when you're a reasonable distance from the camera.

@EEVblog

6 жыл бұрын

Yes, slightly lighter on the base than the Canon, and the mics seems to be directional, so there is more discrepancy between left and right channel depending upon which side of the camera I'm on.

Watched in 4K on my 4K TV, looked great. Keep it up pls.

@EEVblog

6 жыл бұрын

Will do

Good review. I might pick one up just to have a bang about meter instead of carrying my Fluke everywhere. The 4K was really good. You could even see your reflection in the solder joint when you did your first zoom on the ICL right around 2:45.

That’s impressive high quality video, hope to see more in future,thumps up!

I don't know if it is better but your video quality is REALLY GOOD. Thanks for your work!

On 4K you can really see where the camera focuses. This is not that apparent in 1080p. The camera seems to have a small depth of field. Maybe decreasing the apperture size will improve this. But this is really just nitpicking and loads better than 1080p. Love the sound quality too!

@EEVblog

6 жыл бұрын

I'm already shooting at a fixed F5.2 to get larger depth of field, it's obviously not enough. The old camera i used fixed F4

Great review and teardown, the 4K looks fantastic. I don't have a great audio setup (a dickey 30+ yo boombox wired in) but there was nothing bad in the sound. The icky soldering did show very clearly though. I am very curious as to why that transistor didn't have any solder on two legs (at least on the topside) but if it wasn't worth pointing out then I'm going to guess it's not a big deal for whatever reason.

@EEVblog

6 жыл бұрын

That's common for through-hole parts, just variability in the hand soldering.

Thanks, I was looking like crazy for you back to back transistor zerner video and couldn't remember which one

I always watch you on my 4k tv. Yea it looks 4x better! Went back to the video on my phone to let you know it's worth it thanks for uploading it to 4k

It might be something with my individual vision, but a 1080p60fps looks better to me than 4K. Maybe because my laptop screen is only 1080p. Still, the 4K was excellent. Thanks for the teardown and enjoy the new camera!

The soldering isn't actually too bad, when you consider it's probably RoHs solder.(no lead). That type of solder is not as shiny as Lead/Tin solder, and it requires higher temperature. If you're planning on using that meter, I would highly recommend re-soldering the ICL8069 voltage reference. Even though it's probably soldered just fine on the other side of the board, I never really trust those vias on double sided circuit boards. If you flow solder on the top side of those boards, it would help ensure more consistent voltage readings.

@whatevernamegoeshere3644

Жыл бұрын

Honestly the newer lead-free stuff isn't half bad nowadays. The difference between leaded and lead-free is shrinking and with a decent pace

Loving the new 4K res! Keep up the good work Dave!

Yes the video quality is excellent. I do not have experience with LCDs, but believe they are ac driven and the phasing relationship determines which segments turn on. If that is true, then wouldn't it be possible to switch from the negative view to the positive view by reversing the phasing? I like that dark background for inside work, and it would be neat to have another switch, (or an ambient light sensor), that would switch to the positive view and switch the illumination off when the meter was being used in a bright area.

I don't understand your disdain for the LCD screen? I have this DMM in my hands right now. My eyes see it quite differently. Bold segments that are easy to read and clear as day. Bright and spacious display with space to spare. Amazing considering how small this meter is. It's not OLED or EBTN but it's damn good nonetheless. Maybe you acquired a dud. Even good batteries are cheap as borscht nowadays so battery life really shouldn't be a factor. What's the deal? I think it's a step forward unlike some new meter displays that seem stuck in the "90s. Btw, the meter ships in a nice OEM case. More new meters should do the same!

@user-fj4vb9ek8d

5 жыл бұрын

Dave hates if its cheap

@jimmcmillan8985

5 жыл бұрын

I have a lot of multimeters including the Fluke 87V, i bought this one (in the ZOYI ZT-X variant) out of curiosity as i liked the layout, and have to say im most impressed, its now my go to meter. the display is gorgeous, yes its not clear outside, but i can't remember the last time i used a DMM outside, and if i need to have have others that can fulfil that task. I paid just over £21 on Ebay for this meter. So what if the display will use more batteries? had it a month now and used it most days, without changing the batteries. There is a battery hack which i have just purchased and will mod the meter when the batteries need replacement. I have checked both the resistance readings and DC volts with calibrated reference checkers and find this meter to be as accurate as some of my very expensive meters.

@benjaminhayes5806

5 жыл бұрын

@@jimmcmillan8985 hi. Have just ordered this meter. What was the battery back you mentioned? Thanks

@user-sm4pl3bm5g

6 ай бұрын

​​@@benjaminhayes5806u can change LEDs to different color with low voltage (ex. yellow/green/red) and resistor, this will reduce current consumption and use full capacity of batteries. Or just use lithium ion. Also u can turn off turn off or delay auto shutdown in firmware.

1080p looks amazing, very clear and easy to see. The only limitation is these old eyes :-)

4K vs regular HD all looks the same on my 4K smartwatch anymore. My eyes must be going. That additional unmarked chip looks like a popular philips segmented LCD driver commonly used in automotive applications..... it has the resistor and capacitor pair next to it that select oscillator frequency for lcd scan.

@zaprodk

6 жыл бұрын

Yeah, i would say Philips or Holtek made that chip.

@eNodeTG

6 жыл бұрын

Ha! Old timer! I can see every pixel on my *8K* smart watch screen. Your eyes must be worse than ya think!

Excellent

4K on a 4K monitor looks very sharp and detailed, it's very nice!

Good hour. Thanks to your detailed review, I bought myself the same multimeter. But in the case of a change on the board, the resistor P30 is replaced by a jumper. Could you suggest the value of this resistor.

love the 4K quality, also looks very good in 1080p.

The new zoom facility is well worthwhile. Great stuff.

Love watching you videos. you are very informative. I now know how my Hantek 2D72 scope meter works. It has 3 Relays.

Great video Dave. Your new camera is awesome. 👍🏼

the picture looks very nice, keep up the good work. see you....clearly...

It looks amazing at even lower resolution, even at 480p on a 1080p display it was surprisingly sharp for the text and markings Nice upgrade! Too bad the MM ain't up to par ;)

the polarizer on the display can be inverted? and use a reflective surface on the back to work without the lights (as a "normal" lcd)?

@Juliuswwss

6 жыл бұрын

Thats exactly I was thinking about

@Gossamer2

6 жыл бұрын

Ahh you beat me to it! I was going to ask that too.

@chaos.corner

5 жыл бұрын

I did this to the LCD on my motorcycle to make it inverted when the polarizers got damaged by the sun. You just rotate the polarizer 90 degrees.

The 4K video looks stunning in 4K :)

The 4K was super sharp on my big screen iMac. Perfect for those close ups.

Thanks

Anyway Dave. Your new camera looks great. Particularly the zoom. See 2:45 where the chip numbers are in perfect focus. As well as the terrible soldering... Grrrrrrr. Lol

Your 4K video looks great as I watch it in 480p...

Looks mint.

Dry as a dead dingo's donga.....love it...

Your 4k video looks nearly as good on my 1600x900 laptop screen as it does on my 5" phone screen.

around 2,50 it gets a bit grainy ,a little less zoom .but the 4 k is great mate !

oh crap... just order one :-/ cause I was looking for one with temperature measuring also. ir looked neat any advice for a replacement that just not cost thousands like a Fluke?

I definitely hear that the sound quality has changed. Not saying that it's better or worse, but immediately after the video started, I was like "there is something different about the sound".

I was wondering if that relay drew current all the time or not. By the way Dave, the newer 8009 does have the NCV in place of square wave generator and also has temp probe - unfortunately the 8009 still doesnt have the missing ranges you spoke of. If they added the ranges, replaced the power hog display with an updated LCD one, rework the tilting bale maybe they could keep the push buttons and with these mods have a good upgrade model from the 8009. I have an 8009 and its been great, had high hopes for the Q1 but looks like they didnt think this one through, the design just isnt practical in its current form.

Holy shit I can see your reflection in the voltage reference solder blob!!!!!

Nice zoom detail on the board . The camera makes the multimeter better :P

At 6 min in the PTC and clamp node I suspect is the drive side for the diode, resistance, capacitance, etc. modes. The high impedance leg is the input. You should hear the relay switch in anytime you change to one of the other modes.

@EEVblog

6 жыл бұрын

Yes, I demoed the relay click in the video. mV is the same path as ohms/diode/cap. That the same in most meters.

@joesmith-je3tq

6 жыл бұрын

For fun, did you try to change the state of the relay with a magnetic hanger? I suspect it does not have a shield. I would be interested in knowing if it's in the volts mode and the relay changes state from an external field, does the meter know?

Got a new 4k screen and I'm loving it!

Are those jacks custom built? I have been trying to buy them online and I am not even sure what to search for.

for high-res close-up stuff (e.g. 4k video of electronics) you should use fixed F/8 and iso100, if you have enough light for that

@miasmator

6 жыл бұрын

Depends on the size of the sensor. F/8.0 provides longer DoF, but the resolution might decrease due to diffraction.

That zoom was awesome, but you either didn't spot the half soldered voltage reference or you forgot to mention it.

If you need the NCV option this meter has to offer then i suggest getting the Aneng AN8009 instead, its almost the same as the AN8008 but has the PWM switched for the NCV,, you also get the temp probe and it will save you a few $

4K looks nice here streaming in the USA!

Looks better, Nice camera

Do you have any tear downs of any microphones? Condenser or any that will work.

The 4K is blazingly sharp!

Dave, with all the negative remarks you gave about the display, wouldn't it be a good part of the teardown, to try and flip the polarisor foil to see if that works to invert the display. This because I believe the MM will keep working below this 2.5V threshold. Yes the led will cut off but the meter will still be usable like his cheaper brother. With all the measurements within good spec I love this meter, because I dislike the dail and would love pushbutton. Makes one handed work much easier.

hi Dave would you recommend cutting back the COM track on the PCB for added safety? ps thumbs up for 4k

I have a short in battery and the screen led work but no data ...can you help me with this proplem

very nice camera dave :)

I'm not sure i still watch it in 1080p and it looks good for me ..I liked that zoom option..that was nice thing

The comment about the higher bitrate on 1080P is only true if you watching on a browser that support the VP9 codec officially. That is to say half of the mobile devices with 2K screen are still streaming MP4 because it’s more recognized and has hardware built in GPU instructions for better battery life even if you tablet or laptop support up to 2K and 4K. So now youtube won’t encode MP4 in anything higher then 1080. Unless you can download google chrome web browsers but again some devices don’t support VP9 including TV, and other things that even have googles own app installed on them. So you can have a smart 4K TV that may not play a real 4K or better 1080P. And if it’s is playing 4K it might just be upscaling it. Even most andriod devices can’t run VP9, and it seems VP9 is more processor heaving killing batteries faster on laptops if you do force Firefox to run it. But mobile browsers or safari, sorry. So if IPad Pro owners and other high end tablet or laptop owners are wondering what happened to the 1440 (2K)option, now you know. MPG has been officially accepted and supported by almost everything, but google is forcing their now codes down your throat. Name a song,e camera that records in the video format, so it doesn’t matter what wrapper codec your camera records in, KZread changes it completely anyway. Even if it’s a little sharper, still It would be better if they rolled out open support for everyone before changing KZread over. I’m not going to go buy a new tablet TV because of this, google can bite me. So you won’t be seeing any 4K uploads from me until VP9 is an adopted standard and has built in support on processors and GPUs without the need to go buy new hardware or the latest andriod device. Seems like abuse of power if you ask me.

@EEVblog

6 жыл бұрын

Err, why not just upload 4K now if you are able to? Everyone can still watch in 1080p

@stinkycheese804

6 жыл бұрын

Yeah, seems like an excuse to me, but the odd part is the statement about mobile devices and tablets as if that's important. If you want a good 4K experience you need a larger screen.

Nice video! Incredible camera. An interesting mod would be using a 18650 battery and adding a USB charger.

What is it with the soldering job on the voltage reference around 3:00 ?! That is terrible !!! Well at least there is a connection on the bottom side...

@EEVblog

6 жыл бұрын

That's not uncommon with through hole parts, just variability in the hand soldering.

@mozismobile

6 жыл бұрын

Gotta save those microcents worth of solder where they can.

@markevans2294

6 жыл бұрын

Probably some deciseconds worth of labour too.

@neilhuband995

6 жыл бұрын

Mark Evans yeah, those Chinese pre-teen skilled workers don't come cheap. Oh, wait...

NICE

Yes 4K!!

How come only one of the three leads is soldered at 3:00? Any reason this wasn't mentioned?

@jort93z

6 жыл бұрын

I think those are not plated throughholes and on the other legs the solder didn't flow through from the other side.

It looks like they didn´t use a bunch of pins on that micro controller. Almost the entire left side looks unsoldered. I wonder if you could add some extra features to that.

The 4k footage is absolutely better, but there is some video noise if you do a full zoom in.

BTW, the fuses on the right picture are really so small/short? Any safety standard respected by ANENG?... The 4k is priceless, indeed.

Thanks a lot, Dave :) I liked its screen/display :) (it got color) Silly question, does not the Relay drain the batteries quickly?

@igrewold

6 жыл бұрын

Just seen earlier episode ;D kzread.info/dash/bejne/eqGfq7KkiNPNabg.html Cool 4K cam :)

Dave, do you know the brand Yokogawa? It would be cool if you reviewed some of their instruments, specially the YT720 multimeter.

The relay is a great idea Mate, think about it. There is no parasite drain and you can have an auto shutdown.

actually there might be a good use case for this meter just by the screen, or at least i would like one for just this purpose. dicking around and diagnosing cars, you're often in weird places in weird positions with bad lighting and being able to just push a button and hiving that screen always lit would make things a bit easier to read but then again that is the only use case i can imagine this would be a good meter for just a general purpose garage meter.

4k looks amazing (On a 4k monitor)

somehow I can't switch to 4K, no options for it. Maybe KZread detects my desktop resolution and hides inapropriate modes...

Yes I like the 4k, even on my Samsung tablet it looks pretty sharper (?)

If use relay, it need fresh battery in few days ,relay use huge amount Amp compared to otocopler, if you always use /need it, consider another brand .

Which mic is being used? The mid range is a bit harsh.. but only very slightly

@EEVblog

6 жыл бұрын

Internal mic

Did you ever mention anything about the poor solder welds on the 3-pole transmogrifier?

@EEVblog

6 жыл бұрын

No. That's common for through-hole parts, just variability in the hand soldering.

@qwertyasdf66

6 жыл бұрын

Yeah that's what I thought was the point of the thumbnail. I couldn't see any solder on the other two leads _at all_ and was super surprised that you didn't mention it.

I only have 4K monitors currently but the video looks good.

Would be nice to know whether it can run off a 4V supply.. that 2xAA battery case looks like a nice place to stuff a LiIon pouch cell in..

@dazmatic

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah it can. Works great on a small lipo cell with a usb tp4056 protection module

best multimeter :)

where find the electronic schematics?

Fantastic 4K resolution on my big 43 inch LG Ultra HD tv. !

Friends please. What value of Q5 and Q4 in circuits aneng Q1 ? Do you have schematics ? Thanks

@user-sm4pl3bm5g

6 ай бұрын

a6shb si2306 if u still need it

Misters, I ask you about the help how the Q5 transistor is called??? The transistor is faulty, there was a factory defect... I want to learn its marking and analogs to put the new transistor ... This transistor sensor of definition of turning on of probes in the slot milliampere ... Help to define marking of the Q5 transistor please

Did we *finally* find a product that the Batterizer would be useful in?

@KrotowX

5 жыл бұрын

What is that Batterizer thing by the way?

video looked sharp & nice even on 1080p however if you can't edit the video in reasonable time (those crashes must be annoying) I'm not sure it's worth the trouble. Maybe it's time to switch to a new editing software or have someone else do the editing for you.

The old AN8008 is < $16 these days. There's a new AN8009 model with more functionality. I'd probably still recommend the old one, especially at this price.

4k is great

Super sharp 4K Video, Shame about the multimeter.

Are they using a MegaST processor in that multimeter.

What is a good meter?

Video looks fantastic. It auto switched to 4k, I have gig Internet service over fibre.

@jagardina

6 жыл бұрын

Running a 1920x1080 Dell monitor so it's downsampling.

Video quality excellent on my MacBook - it defaulted to displaying at the native 1440P resolution. As an aside, a MacBook / Final Cut Pro would be a solution to Vegas crashing... ;)

Isn't VA referring to the type of LCD display? "Vertical Alignment"

4k is nice

Galaxy A8 2018, no 4k option present :(

@2:58 nice zoom. wot no solder on 2 out of 3 legs of the vref??

@England91

6 жыл бұрын

NivagSwerdna I thought I was seeing things but you confirmed it lol

@EEVblog

6 жыл бұрын

That's common for through-hole parts, just variability in the hand soldering.

Subs on @ 1:42, it's TMI time again! 😂 Me too, David. Me too.

now we need some oscilloscope teardowns in 4k.