Edward Said With Noam Chomsky, on Palestine
A collection of publicly recorded audio lectures by Dr. Edward Said on various topics. This collection has been uploaded to all to enjoy.
Edward Wadie Said (Arabic pronunciation: [wædiːʕ sæʕiːd]; Arabic: إدوارد وديع سعيد, Idwārd Wadīʿ Saʿīd; 1 November 1935 - 25 September 2003) was a Palestinian American literary theorist and public intellectual who helped found the critical-theory field of postcolonialism. Born in Jerusalem in Mandatory Palestine to Palestinian parents resident in Egypt, he was an American citizen through his father. Said spent his childhood in Jerusalem and Cairo, where he attended elite British and American schools. Subsequently he left for the United States, where he obtained a bachelor's degree from Princeton and a doctorate in English literature from Harvard. Said then joined the faculty of Columbia University in 1963, where he became professor of English and comparative literature in 1991.
As a cultural critic, Said is best known for the 1978 book Orientalism. In it, he analyses the cultural representations that are the basis of Orientalism, a term he redefined to refer to the West's patronizing perceptions and depictions of Middle Eastern, Asian and North African societies-"the East". He contended that Orientalist scholarship was, and remains, inextricably tied to the imperialist societies that produced it, which makes much of the work inherently political, servile to power, and thus intellectually suspect. Orientalism is based upon Said's knowledge of colonial literature, literary theory, and poststructuralism. Said's works proved influential in the humanities[citation needed], especially in literary theory, and had a transformative impact on Middle Eastern studies[citation needed], whose practitioners began to study how they examine, describe, and define Middle Eastern cultures[vague]. Said vigorously discussed and debated the cultural subjects comprised by Orientalism, especially as applied to history and area studies; nonetheless, some mainstream academics disagreed with the theory, most notably Bernard Lewis.
As a public intellectual, Said discussed culture, literature, music and contemporary politics. Drawing from his family experiences as Palestinian Christians in the Middle East around the time Israel was established in 1948, Said argued for the establishment of a Palestinian state. Further, he was an advocate for equal political and human rights for Palestinians in Israel, and urged the U.S. to pressure Israel to grant and respect these rights. Said was described by journalist Robert Fisk as the Palestinian people's "most powerful political voice". Nevertheless, he also criticized the Arab and Muslim regimes who acted against the interests of their peoples. Intellectually active until the last months of his life, he died of leukemia in late 2003.
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A Christian man and a Jewish man fighting for the rights of a predominately Muslim group. This is humanity ! Love live Noam and Edward.
@37Dionysos
8 ай бұрын
Well said! Truth is before the 1940s arrival of the Euro-Jewish racists, they all lived together in peace for generations. Wonderful film of elders who remember: "The Land Speaks Arabic" here on YT.
@urthogie
7 ай бұрын
@@37Dionysos There were terrorist attacks in 1929 (Hebron massacre)
@beadmecreative9485
7 ай бұрын
@@urthogiewhat about the everyday terrorism the Israeli government does??
@fafolaw
7 ай бұрын
@@37Dionysos Tell that to the victims of the Hebron massacre
@haveaseatplease
7 ай бұрын
This attack was instigated by the people whom suffer from imperial grandeur delusions (the British) and their politics of divide and rule which was enforced by the Balfour Declaration of 1917. Ever since the more or less peaceful coexistence of the Sephardi Jews and the Palestinians is replaced by never ending friction and violence. At that time there was also a minority of Ashkenazi Jews, but they were not integrated with the locals (not with the Palestinians and also not with the Sephardi Jews). @@urthogie
sadness and despair strike when one realizes that a 1999 lecture about the origins of the Palestinian tragedy was relevant at the time and is still very much relevant to the events taking place in 2023!
@stloupenbray
6 ай бұрын
History is long--as MLK said, its "arc" is long, "but it bends toward justice."
@kennethmarshall306
5 ай бұрын
Thanks for giving us the date of this lecture. It’s always annoying when the date isn’t given
Being an intellectual is not about how educated one is , it's about thinking about the problems of society and say all wrongdoings loudly no matter what the consequences would be. Noam Chomsky never kept quiet but said it all out loud in the name of the impoverished nations and people.
@stloupenbray
6 ай бұрын
And as of today--Nov 24, 2023--he'z still doing it!
Edward Said passed away in 2003, I believe. His death was lamentable as I consider him a key academic supporting the fate of Palestine and the Palestinians.
@cavendish009
3 жыл бұрын
You should read "Palestine is My Country" written by Geoffrey Furlonge about Musa Alami - a Palestinian who had to leave his family home in Jerusalem and become a refugee. He was a prominent politician fighting for the Palestinians.
@stloupenbray
6 ай бұрын
Yes, Said was the best kind of public intellectual! But Chomsky has carried on his work, Unfortunately, Chomsky is, himself, very old.
@fabiengerard8142
Ай бұрын
@@stloupenbray*Both will always be among us. Best teachers ever. True masters.
@literatious308
8 күн бұрын
@@stloupenbrayYes, Chomsky is hard to listen to these days but Ilan Pappe, Finklestein & The General’s Son book author (forgot name) + many others strive for a peaceful one state solution. Even Alastair Crooke who was instrumental in negotiating Oslo 2-state is saying that solution was always doomed to failure because the playing field was hopelessly skewed. Unfortunately the West has no one capable of diplomacy for the last two decades, the likes of Chas Freeman (Nixon China) & his generation of actual empathic diplomats are now just relegated to old antiwar guys, spurned by the current escalatory hothead rhetoric mouthpieces that have zero diplomatic skills. Nima of Dialogue Works has a collection of all those “old people”, it is like a historical collection of what diplomacy meant in the past. Cherish & learn from these experienced & thoughtful voices before they are gone. Human culture used to venerate the elderly because of their decades of experience. That learning from the past is now denigrated as Luddite mentality & our elderly are shunted into “care” facilities where they were inundated with Covid patients in early 2020 & deprived of contact with family. Unimaginable callousness. NATO, EU & UK leadership compared to USA, unfortunately are equally belligerent despite the fact that they’re economically ruining Europe & UK is equally suicidal if not worse. Those “leaders” are huffing their own propaganda & remind me of the aggressive stance of Betta male fish who puff up their fins when separated by a barrier to assert dominance. Smoke & Mirrors, bully pulpit. EU is teetering on catastrophic economic collapse while pretending to build EU military & throw more funds @ Ukraine because they don’t understand sunk cost fallacies. Digging themselves into deeper economic collapse & possible military troop deployments. Apparently it’s all about rhetoric because if they consulted with engineering, military & economic real “experts” (I can’t use the term expert without recalling their history of lies & failures) they would no doubt have been briefed on the plainly evident failures of every measure they’ve adopted & that escalation is doomed to failure. I used to think more women in government/ politics would lead to a more peaceful world. BTW I’m a feminist from the 60’s, I now totally reject that notion. I’ve been through Cuban missile crisis, original preppers who built bomb shelters & stockpiled frozen foods (before freeze dried was invented). I’m one of those old farts that is always anti war but I’m tech savvy unlike the geezers in US House & Senate & our marionette president.
This talk must be listened to by everyone in the Western Hemisphere.
@Federico-kh4br
7 ай бұрын
Could not more agree!
@epic6434
5 ай бұрын
Thank God it's in English 😂
Wow what a gem! Thanks!
I just found this, thanks so much for uploading these
Thank you for making this important discourse available. Miss jenny
Thanks so much for uploading this...
Indeed, the heroes of our time.
Two wonderful bridges ❤❤
Very nice discussion. Thank you
I am grateful to Professor Noam Chomsky for
This isn’t a debate, it’s two intellectuals arguing for basically the same point. It’s great to hear a younger vibrant Chomsky & Said is always intellectually stimulating. It’s incredibly pathetic how little has changed in 20+ years, if anything the obstacles to peace have exponentially increased. How long does it take for the tide to shift from increasing violence towards peace negotiations?
Edward Said figure continues growing
THANK YOU
Edward Said talks about the history of the expulsion of the Palestinians in 1948 beginning around 43 minutes and 30 seconds.
@rational-public-discourse
8 ай бұрын
kzread.info/dash/bejne/dKSEp6aagburprA.html 1:09:42
@rational-public-discourse
7 ай бұрын
I was wrong, he wasn't tortured using a treatment that caused "great chills," but he does say that others have been giving this treatment as a form of torture.
This Lecture was recorded 1999
@literatious308
8 күн бұрын
Thanks. I was wondering when it occurred.
Brilliant!
Edward said a lot with Noam Chomsky!
@richardD.dedekind
7 ай бұрын
Free Palestine!
cant there be captions please
what's the year?
@Makrania
3 жыл бұрын
Perhaps 1999? Said mentions 1948 being 51 years earlier, and 1967 being 32 years earlier.
Edward Said at 42:28
@3476539060
5 жыл бұрын
save some 40 minute for us! :) Thanks!
@gamingwithslacker
3 жыл бұрын
@@3476539060 lol Chomsky is pretty good too.
@lonelycubicle
10 ай бұрын
I guess Chomsky went past 30 minutes
@literatious308
8 күн бұрын
Two state solution isn’t viable. Ilan Pappe discusses historical formation of Israel nation at length in his books & interviews & concurs that one state w equality for all is the only rational solution but it’s not going to be easy. Alastair Crooke, British diplomat who was instrumental to negotiations for Oslo Accords also concurs, 2 state solution as it was structured was doomed to failure & the road to equality for all is ultimately the only path forward to peace. Alastair also says current political realities in ME (West Asia) & globally haven’t been able to shift towards that because of an Arab Consensus agreed upon in 2003(I think). Saudi king is near death, hospitalized. MBS in case of King death is not an automatic transfer into power, the whole family/ tribe must agree to go becomes the next monarch. The West has been primed that MBS will be next but that is not guaranteed.
Where's the q and a?
@lonelycubicle
10 ай бұрын
Also where the two talk to each other for 15 minutes.
i hesitate to comment because my own intellectual grasp is less than that of these two men by far, but i write this: the occupation is itself a brutality (59.20) and - under the fact of it - all actions on the part of the occupier upon the occupied are brutal - that's to say, deny the man occupied the use of his mind (jibcorrect). with deep respect, irene p.s. ...to keep them there? read The Moon Is Down by John Steinbeck and you will learn how and why all occupations of soneone else's house will founder ... messily (1.09.15)
Noam chomksy n-word pass 7:13
@adamazzalino5247
7 ай бұрын
He was quoting a primary source, it was the former PM David Lloyd George who said it, but okay man.
@rascalkr4967
7 ай бұрын
Get a life.
@myla6135
7 ай бұрын
And? Did that have you under the table cowering? Or outside screaming? Pathetic.
@Tesla_Death_Ray
7 ай бұрын
Use vs Mention is completely different. Saying otherwise is giving the word mystical power.
@robertbentley3589
3 ай бұрын
And the world goes on. Nice when there are adults in the room.
Learned Jews like Chomsky and Sanders will start from 1948 and never mention their scripture that declares a homeland in Egypt. They take it granted that American crime of occupying Palestine isn't a Jewish problem. so talking about a homeland in Egypt doesn't arise (even though the Israelis want Hamas to be transferred to Sinai, but never talk about transferring Israelis to Egypt because that solves the problem. I have no respect for Chomsky or Sanders.
I am gay
@gabrielsyme4180
7 ай бұрын
Q____rs for Palestine?
@Tesla_Death_Ray
7 ай бұрын
Nobody cares about gay any more. If you want queer attention, you need to go trans
@hazelwray4184
6 ай бұрын
Cheerful, bright and gay?
@stloupenbray
6 ай бұрын
And?
@literatious308
8 күн бұрын
So what? That hasn’t been an issue for the vast majority of humans for millennia