EDUCE: Imaging the Herculaneum Scrolls
The eruption of Mt. Vesuvius covered the city of Herculaneum in twenty meters of lava, simultaneously destroying the Herculaneum scrolls through carbonization and preserving the scrolls by protecting them from the elements. Unwrapping the scrolls would damage them, but researchers are anxious to read the texts. Researchers from the University of Kentucky collaborated with the Institut de France and SkyScan to digitally unwrap and preserve the scrolls. To learn more about the EDUCE project, go to cs.uky.edu/dri.
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I'm so excited for the future
What really perplexed me was the copyright 2009 at the very end of the documentary. So with editing and all maybe it was actually filmed in 2008? It makes me wonder what has happened over the last 11 or 12 years since this. The title should include the year this was filmed. This is all very old information. Why only 2 scrolls? I thought there were about 200 of them... but only my amateur view and memory from some other film about these scrolls. I also saw in another documentary that they suspect that the villa library where these were found that there is a second area where more scrolls could be stored and I wonder if they are trying to make a major effort to excavate in that direction. A great deed they are doing for humanity!
@christychapman2344
4 жыл бұрын
Hi, you can find a recent update here! www2.cs.uky.edu/dri/ and here www2.cs.uky.edu/dri/herculaneum-papyrus-scrolls/ and here www2.cs.uky.edu/dri/news/#whats-new !
@mwj5368
3 жыл бұрын
@@christychapman2344 Hi Christy! Thank you for the time and work you went to with the links! I just found your reply now as KZread doesn't let me know all the time when I reply comes. I don't know why they only sometimes let me know in my email Inbox. Very nice of you!
@Wesley.221
Жыл бұрын
These scrolls are from the Calpurnius Piso, the Roman aristocratic family who were inventing the gospels of Jesus.. this is what they want to hide
@Pro-Deo
Жыл бұрын
@@mwj5368 and I thought that just happened to me🙄.
@timmyanimations8321
11 ай бұрын
They have a 1 million dollar competition for programmers to make an AI that can read X-ray scans of the scrolls.
Awesome. Thanks for sharing this!
I wanna read that texts, be quickly
Hoped for a video about the scrolls, got a commercial for Skyscan...
There's a show about charred Dead Sea scrolls where images can be obtained of the writing, layer by layer.
Gracias.
How come modern homes of the Wealthy are not as artistically decorated in the Interior as these Roman houses! Modern architects must embrace such glory !!
@aaronatherton7431
9 ай бұрын
Rich people today are perpetually under scrutiny of leftists, governments, progressives....they are under constant judgement, even in their private lives. So when they get together, of course having no way to relieve stress in their private lives they go a little nuts together.
@michaelstearnesstearnes1498
8 ай бұрын
The Roman's had better taste.
Don’t bother watching this, apart from all the downfalls of American documentaries (ridiculous music, drama inserted for no reason, repetition of irrelevant points etc) they don’t even bother scanning a scroll until12 minutes in, they spend more time advertising the machine they use to scan. Watch any other documentary on this subject if you want to learn anything at all.
@blueberry82733
2 жыл бұрын
True
@jamesflowers1295
2 жыл бұрын
Eyy, saved me the effort. Ima go read some transcripts of the graffiti instead
when will we see a translation of the scrolls?
I would expect handling of these items to require the use of gloves, to prevent acid and skin residue from migrating to them and damaging them further. The resolution of these 3D scans may not be sufficient, but I hope for the best.
"Darling Bruticus, Don't neglect picking up the pickled fish and a jug of wine for dinner. Mother is coming. Bathe on the way home. No whoring!"
Been waiting for years to know if they found the technology
@mwj5368
3 жыл бұрын
Hi Kev! For years I wondered like you about the scrolls and this intriguing advancement in virtual unwrapping that Prof Seales with U of Kentucky so profoundly devised. Look at the "Reply" from Christy Chapman to my comment just above yours. I just saw a phenomenal presentation by Dr. Seales through one of the links and a lot more to go. It's a very complex and amazing journey and exciting to see at this stage.
So is there any text that was retrieved by this??? Where can I read it???
Where can i see a catalogue of the texts?
@maiquelyorden3585
3 жыл бұрын
Look for Catalogo dei Papiri Ercolanesi
@Insectoid_
3 жыл бұрын
The library of Alexandria. Just find a time machine
Is the ink a blue metallic pigment?
I heard they are able to read some of them virtually, by a cat scan type process, or something close to that, where they can decipher the iron used in the ink.
@stab74
Жыл бұрын
Oh really you heard that? Maybe from THE VERY VIDEO YOU ARE COMMENTING ON! 🤦♂
@Nickle314
Жыл бұрын
That's if the ink is iron based. Turns out most isn't. So its back to the drawing board on that one. The ink is made from carbon black. However there is home. "The noninvasive digital restoration of ancient texts written in carbon black ink and hidden inside artifacts has proven elusive, even with advanced imaging techniques like x-ray-based micro-computed tomography (micro-CT). This paper identifies a crucial mistaken assumption: that micro-CT data fails to capture any information representing the presence of carbon ink. Instead, we show new experiments indicating a subtle but detectable signature from carbon ink in micro-CT. We demonstrate a new computational approach that captures, enhances, and makes visible the characteristic signature created by carbon ink in micro-CT. This previously “unseen” evidence of carbon inks, which can now successfully be made visible, is a discovery that can lead directly to the noninvasive digital recovery of the lost texts of Herculaneum." If you want to google it.
Pawn Stars - "I can give you $5"
I keep thinking...*shouldn't they be using GLOVES when they touch these things??*
I'd love to be around to read about yesterday's society.
Have you tried to scan a modern roll for test? Can you see ink there and read it?
Il vaudrait fermer ce laboratoire et conserver ces rouleaux d' une importance incomensurable sans plus les trippoter, les infecter, les exposer à la lumière, à l'atmossphere humide et acide.: il ne faut plus les toucher, jusqu'à ce que de nouvelles techniques permettront de les solidifier et surtout de les déchiffrer et de les rendre utilisables par la communeauté scientifique.J'ai eu des frissons voyant une collaboratrice porter l' un de ces roulaux,même précationeusement, mais sans assistance pour lui ouvrir les portes ou pour éviter une chute et la transformation en centres du rouleau avec les volumes perdus de Ab Urbe condita !.
No gloves?
"Mee-rey-coul"
JUST TAKE THEM TO THE ANTIQUES ROADSHOW AND THEY WILL BE OPENED.
Results ??? Where can I read what Philodemos wrote ?? As Philodemos was an Epicurean, he may have owned a collection of old books: can we hope to find original books written by Epicurus himself, f.i. the - lost - treatise Περὶ Πολιτείας ?
maybe nothing
All of the time and money invested and they finally get to read one, and it's a honey do list. Marcus, please go to the market and pick up some fish and a loaf of that round bread. And don't forget to pick up the laundry! And don't forget to bring the ticket this time! It's in the box in the back of your chariot. You know how those Chinese are, no tickey, no laundy!
We always hope to unearth new knowledge or forgotten knowledge, but given the fact that it is from the home of the wealthy in the empire years after Tiberius, Caligula, Nero, and the year of the four emperors...it is probably a first century version of James Patterson paperbacks which we already have seen or read.
I wait fore Herakleitos, cause his words: "The One has All inside and All has these One inside." That is the world Formula!!!
@unitittii
4 жыл бұрын
@Bellicose Ataraxia :) :) :)
@doomerboy6373
3 жыл бұрын
what does that mean
Put some gloves on if your gonna handle that.
@pambb5743
4 жыл бұрын
I know! I could Not believe they were actually touching that scroll without gloves! The oil from their hands is detrimental to that ancient material. Just mind boggling. 😲
@dububro
4 жыл бұрын
Without fail, every video with someone handling old documents has this same comment, usually upvoted to the top. Gloves are never used when handling things like this. Wearing gloves makes your hands less sensitive and makes you more likely to clumsily damage the document. See these articles: www.forbes.com/sites/booked/2012/03/21/the-white-glove-myth/ library.pdx.edu/news/the-proper-handling-of-rare-books-manuscripts/ blogs.ancestry.com/ancestry/2014/07/28/the-white-glove-debate/
@louisemerriman1079
Жыл бұрын
Im in shock 😳
@jaredgarbo3679
9 ай бұрын
@pambb5743 It's charcoal paper, using gloves will cause more damage.
Мало что понял на тарабарском английском, но где результат прочтения? Крутили, вертели, а ни буквы не прочли.
Tedious? You guys aren’t even wearing gloves.
@kushalaluru9552
4 жыл бұрын
A B Bikes Cars N’ Guitars gloves, while protecting from oils and dirt gloves actually make delicate moments harder. That’s why they use bare hands, as long as they thoroughly clean their hands it’ll be fine .
Pshhh
After watching this film i am afraid. I asked myself if You are conscious about the importance of these last undestroyed ancient informations. Couldn't you use at first a cash register roll to test the machine and technic. Imagine the multiple use of radiation may destroy this probably last readable document. Please be more careful. Myracles don't exist.
@mjrussell414
4 жыл бұрын
Hans Im Glück No, myracles don't exist.
@mwj5368
3 жыл бұрын
Hi Hans! Look in the "Replies" under my comment above to three very interesting links to more about the virtual unwrapping of the scrolls. It is amazing what they are doing!
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@laboucheduserpent-
2 жыл бұрын
Vous êtes souffrant ?
What's with all the amateurish camera angles? Why show his hands and switch to side shots? It isn't some kind of drama, why the attempt at dramatic angles? Poor presentation!
Perhaps we may have been better off if first the christians and then the muslims hadn't burnt some many books because they didn't mention or edify their imaginary gods.
All about nothing. Usual American tripe click bait.
The “old film” video effect is overdone, sad, distracting, and pathetic. Just Don’t!
Good maybe we csn finally put some of these fairy tales and mythological notions regarding religion to rest.
@davideascaniovisconti-borg459
4 жыл бұрын
You're a special kind of stupid, mate LOL. I identify myself as a Catholic, because Catholicism shaped almost 2.000 years of history, arts, culture, traditions of my country... yet I have no imaginary friends in the sky. I take Christian values as a spiritual guide to be a better man. I'm from Rome, born and bred as a Catholic, and I will die as a Catholic, no doubt about it. It's a question of blood, soil and roots. But maybe you have nothing like that, that's why you write that kind of bulls**t.
@BlueBaron3339
4 жыл бұрын
The texts thus far salvaged, Nick, are from Epicurian philosophers who were not into "fairy tales and mythological notions regarding religion." Superstition and divinity was out, as was fear of death, notions of an afterlife. Instead, focus on living morally and ethically in this world. The closest comparison to a religion I suppose would be Buddhism. Thus I think we'd both agree that saving these documents is pretty important.
@BlueBaron3339
4 жыл бұрын
@Bellicose Ataraxia Adam Smith's Wealth of Nations was a philosophy book. Charles Darwin's The Origin of the Species was released as a work of Natural Philosophy. But, yes, tyrants and dictators, particularly the ones with high body counts, hate academics.
Leave them alone. I seen one of these so called scientists with black fingers. Obviously our generation cannot do it.
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